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[Frustration]Motorola Still has not learnt the lesson

Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you

chowdarygm said:
Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
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I don't have MOTO but 4 of my friends do I can see the frustration even in the atrix users due to being locked up tight I'm sure many devs feel the same in there forum .
That's why I took my frustrations to the company direct HTC but I know thousands have to MOTO with no response it seems people say they will u lock end quart 4 this year maybe .. I think you can try your best to get them to do something I support anyone who wishes to make these huge companies see the consumer is what is most important ..
Xda is amazing I've been using 2.3.3 or a ginger based rom for a while people on HTC fb still asking for ota updates for the EVO 4g ..
So either keep on going after MOTO or hope the devs can make something happen..
Oh and nothing will happen till you get them to really hear your voice best of luck ..
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I'm still on the fence with regards to buying a tablet, but the lack of European support from Motorola isn't doing them any favours as far as my decision is concerned.

The lack of support for euro xoom is pathetic, this is my first Motorola for years and I would not have brought it if I had realised this was the situation.

madpete said:
The lack of support for euro xoom is pathetic, this is my first Motorola for years and I would not have brought it if I had realised this was the situation.
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while buying this, i convinced my wife that moto will have better support than acer or Asus.... but i am wrong now....moto is the worst i have ever used...

chowdarygm said:
while buying this, i convinced my wife that moto will have better support than acer or Asus.... but i am wrong now....moto is the worst i have ever used...
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Try taking all this that you all dislike and send it all to MOTO Idk that's what i did to start with HTC it pissed me off we pay so much pay monthly fees and they do what give us no feedback as to why there system of updates is horrible
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My situation:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Still no UK price or confirmed spec, desperately waiting for some news on this. Have a feeling that it's going to be too expensive but who knows?
Motorola Xoom
Love the build quality and that's got my interest, not sure that I'll be satisfied with the display. There appears to be limited Euro support (bad Motorola!) and not so much activity in the dev section for Euro Xooms. Quite expensive.
Asus Transformer
Ex TF owner due to what I consider poor build quality, but I still haven't dismissed buying another so long as I can get a good one. Good spec, decent price in comparison. Asus appear to be quite supportive with updates, dev section looks quite active.
What to do!

UKseagull said:
My situation:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Still no UK price or confirmed spec, desperately waiting for some news on this. Have a feeling that it's going to be too expensive but who knows?
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Galaxt tab 10.1v in stocks in germany for 500 euros.....200 euro cheaper than xoom

I think the 10.1v is the older version with the 8 megapixel camera, thanks for the link though.

For European, choose Samsung... or HTC. And of course ASUS
chowdarygm said:
Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
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It is kind of odd bc Samsung seemed to be the opposite when I was with them.

The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.

My European HTC Desire is still using Froyo
Philio25 said:
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
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to everyone.... one thing i don't understand here....
motorola talk about difference in hardware and software based of regions bla bla bla bla.... how the hell Apple is able to rollout anything for every apple device at once.....i dont understand the point here.......can anyone explain me?
i read on moto forums that its google's fault in not releasing 3.1 for euro xoom and moto has not to be blamed!!!!!!!!! WTH
how is samsung and acer are able to already customise it and release it???
stupid reasons ....
i am starting to loose my patience now seeing how moto is treating and telling meaningless reasons....

Philio25 said:
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
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The 3G US Xoom update has been out for 2 weeks now. The big deal is the update includes fixes for long lists of bugs for 3.01, which is not the most stable OS to start with. I don’t want my Xoom running on older and buggier software for any length of time more than necessary.
As a customer, I don’t care who is responsible for the update. I expect my device to be update in a timely manner like IOS/Windows desktop. If Motorola/Google cannot deliver on this, than I’ll simply choose a different manufacture or operating system for my next device.
Those updates are for new operating system, like you said Eclair and Gingerbread. We are talking about an update within Honeycomb, so its not a fair comparison.
Bottom line, I'm also frustrated with no 3.1 update outside of US, and no time line on when we will get it.

Did Motorola say that?
You bought the XOOM from Motorola, so no matter what... Motorola is responsible for the update!
chowdarygm said:
to everyone.... one thing i don't understand here....
motorola talk about difference in hardware and software based of regions bla bla bla bla.... how the hell Apple is able to rollout anything for every apple device at once.....i dont understand the point here.......can anyone explain me?
i read on moto forums that its google's fault in not releasing 3.1 for euro xoom and moto has not to be blamed!!!!!!!!! WTH
how is samsung and acer are able to already customise it and release it???
stupid reasons ....
i am starting to loose my patience now seeing how moto is treating and telling meaningless reasons....
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Xoom in Europe is different, its GSM not CDMA like the US.
The iPhone argument does not hold water either. The Verizon iPhone doesn't have 4.3 which has been out for months, the difference between the two phones is the same as the difference between US and non US, the radio.

FtL1776 said:
Xoom in Europe is different, its GSM not CDMA like the US.
The iPhone argument does not hold water either. The Verizon iPhone doesn't have 4.3 which has been out for months, the difference between the two phones is the same as the difference between US and non US, the radio.
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if it is only the radio, is it that difficult to change those lines of code and and send the update? how was it achieved very simply by our own devs in a day without access to advanced tools........
sorry guys, i am so frustrated now coz, my SGS2 is able to play 720p and 1080p butter smooth where as i am struggling to do basic things with moto 700 euro brick .....

Just like Samsung is horrible with updates in the U.S.
I'm in Canada so Motorola is horrible with updates as expected.
I guess short Moto's stock and become rich.

I'm a french user, got a Xoom Wifi only (MZ604), and i'm also hoping for a 3.1 update soon...
Wanna try to flash US stock image, but Motorola didn't release stock images for EU users, so i wont be able to relock it... and in case of problem, i'll got a brick without these images...
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non us japan 3.1 update here!

another popular xoom forum say japan have got the 3.1 update

According to one Russian forum this 3.1 Japanese update supports SD card! There is directory /sdcard-ext, which is actually SD card.
It has build number: H.6.4-15. Kernel 2.6.36.3 [email protected]#1 and it has Firmware configuration version string: GAS_ASIA_HUBKDDI_P007

interesting indeed...
maybe 3.2 for US xoom's will include sd support after all...?
see also here https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/410288 ?

Sooo, if you've updated to US 3.1 it's worth changing back to UK just for SD support.

For slower updates for 3.2 etc. I am thinking not still...
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Nah, if you've already updated to 3.1 and need SD support, you're better installing Tiamat kernel.

isn't the japanese version a wifi only?

does it matter? its sd card support

its been said that Non-US xoom will get sd card support.. and good thing is, it is suppose to be rolling out as we say..

Any chance we could see a full system dump?

so far, i think the rollout only started in japan today, with a "special" build for japan/asia
i think europe will follow in the next few days.
just checked on my euro 3g xoom in germany and there is no update available at the moment

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-rolling-out-and-it-includes-sd-card-support/
android police on it too

I wonder when Canada will get it, they make no mention of Canada besides saying *non-us* I'm hoping its soon.
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msavic6 said:
I wonder when Canada will get it, they make no mention of Canada besides saying *non-us* I'm hoping its soon.
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sound same time as UK/EU I'd say.
I remember aaaaaaages ago that MotoCA on Twitter said something about the SD card support coming soon and sparked a lot of rumours then
Canada are non-US too

Lothaen said:
sound same time as UK/EU I'd say.
I remember aaaaaaages ago that MotoCA on Twitter said something about the SD card support coming soon and sparked a lot of rumours then
Canada are non-US too
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"you could always port a french version !"

Can somebody link me to the Jap version so I can have a root through it?
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Relax Fellow US Xoomers
i think we the US Xoom will still get the SD support. it is just a matter of time. this 3.1 update was given to us about a month or so ago. and it is just now hitting the rest of the world xoomers. so let hang in there, as stated in other thread. the US Xoom is a GED (Google Experience Device) so all the updates are coming from google directly. and the Xoom will be the US Xoom's will be the first to get any direct update from google.
this 3.1 update that is now rolling to the rest of the world was the same 3.1 we got with a few tweeks from motorola which implemented the SD fix. that's becasue the international Xoom is not a GED. it is MED (Motorola Experience Device). so all updates will come from Google to Motorola to International Xooms. i can bet that we will get the 3.2 fix soon, and it will take another month or so before the rest of the world gets it. that's just how it's going to be.
the US Xoom is the best experence you will get from Google. and in the future i can see Google making some feature exclusive to US Xoom. that's all part of the GED. i am going to wait it out, becasue i still have a good 15GB on my Xoom, even after a total of 515 apps install. i keep my media in the cloud, so i don;t have to worry about media files taking up space.

Honeycomb 3.2 is out now?

http://gizmodo.com/5820527/your-android-tablet-just-got-better-whats-new-in-android-32
Here's a link to a post at Gizmodo. Looks like a minor though probably necessary update. Anyone know when it will get rolled out to our Iconia's?

Thanks for reporting this....

tazm0n said:
http://gizmodo.com/5820527/your-android-tablet-just-got-better-whats-new-in-android-32
Here's a link to a post at Gizmodo. Looks like a minor though probably necessary update. Anyone know when it will get rolled out to our Iconia's?
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Knowing Acer, August 2013.

Yup, Xoom WIFI was getting the 3.2 update a few hours ago. The most interesting feature is probably the zoom feature: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...new-zoom-mode-for-viewing-non-honeycomb-apps/
Non-Honeycomb apps support? Even with pixelation, Hell yes!

brutalpanda said:
Yup, Xoom WIFI was getting the 3.2 update a few hours ago. The most interesting feature is probably the zoom feature: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...new-zoom-mode-for-viewing-non-honeycomb-apps/
Non-Honeycomb apps support? Even with pixelation, Hell yes!
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Sounds nice. Unfortunately the biggest problem isn't the resolution. The biggest problem is attempting to get them to run without FC 80000 times.

Anyone know if 3.2 supports the HSP for bluetooth? I want to be able to use my headset with this bloody thing.

from the original article. link
3.2 will offer some bug fixes and improved hardware acceleration, as well as updates to Movie Studio, Movies, Music and widgets.

I wait two more weeks and if they would not release their f***** 3.1, the tab will be sold for a better product with better support.
These Acer support people are just jokes

godsosall said:
I wait two more weeks and if they would not release their f***** 3.1, the tab will be sold for a better product with better support.
These Acer support people are just jokes
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They HAVE released the 3.1 update. Its just taking time to roll it out to everyone, just like FOTA updates do to phones.

FloatingFatMan said:
They HAVE released the 3.1 update. Its just taking time to roll it out to everyone, just like FOTA updates do to phones.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read the A500 3.1 update had been halted, as in no one new is getting it at all until further notice.

deedub334 said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read the A500 3.1 update had been halted, as in no one new is getting it at all until further notice.
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What you've been reading has not been confirmed by any official Acer source, it's just what people have posted saying they were told by some guy on the phone at Acer. That's rumour, not fact.
In fact, over the last couple of days, several people HAVE been reporting getting the 3.1 update. Try taking a look in the dev section.

I think people often forget.ideally when devices computers get a update its all about fixing or providing enhancements. But often we forget that updates that come to soon.updates that are not carefully debuged and checked will almost always break something else. I would rather have fewer but larger rolled up updates then the tiny uncontrolled untested to be true. Remember your windows machine. Updates are a mess and daily. And always risky even more so on firmware.
patience wins over in the long run.
With that said.
ACER GET IT RIGHT don't make us have to wait to long or we will all stop breathing and go into a anti update shock
giggles it will come. My friends

erica_renee said:
I think people often forget.ideally when devices computers get a update its all about fixing or providing enhancements. But often we forget that updates that come to soon.updates that are not carefully debuged and checked will almost always break something else. I would rather have fewer but larger rolled up updates then the tiny uncontrolled untested to be true. Remember your windows machine. Updates are a mess and daily. And always risky even more so on firmware.
patience wins over in the long run.
With that said.
ACER GET IT RIGHT don't make us have to wait to long or we will all stop breathing and go into a anti update shock
giggles it will come. My friends
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Exactly my points below
Too many build #.... Acer -->> no clues !!
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Knowing Acer, August 2013.
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It's not the update that I am concerned about ( XDA always comes through )
It's Acer's damn un-organized way of having so many build #s !!!
One thing that having so many build numbers tells me:
They have no clue as to really ironed out the bugs, that's why their are so many different builds !
with Acer.... even among their same region ( Com_Gen1.... or EMEA for example )... even with those.... there are so many build numbers for the same region !
Look at Asus... they basically have only 2 builds..... 1 for US & 1 for WW ( worldwide )
try weeding through all those build numbers with tech supports and you can see why nobody can get a concrete answer.... due to the lack of being on the same page...etc
If any one who actually have contacts with Acer on the inside.... for Godsake.... relay this problem to their head of department, please !!
how difficult is that ??

Which I imagine is why a second update is being rolled out at the moment?
I suspect that the previous update did have issues and Acer has realised this and is attempting to resolve things. Pure conjecture on my part, but it seems odd to push two updates within a one week period.

3.1 for Europe in Early August

got this via notification email this morning...
5. 27-Jul-2011 08:01 (in response to Matt (Forums Manager))
Want news about updates to non-U.S. Motorola Xooms? Follow this thread. Android™ 3.1 for Motorola XOOM™ will soon be available over the air to all Motorola XOOM users in Europe. We expect the over-the-air deployment to begin in early August, with the package being available for pull by August 9th.
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/434194#434194

Meh too little to late, gave up waiting updated to 3.2 with my UK 3G xoom. Methinks Moto would be better served hiring the Tiamat team...LOL
Lordao

I'm sorry but how can it take that long to add in different locates the app on the market does it in 10seconds.
Motorola has no reason to delay it this long.
when people use my xoom and say yer i might get one.
I have to then reel of a speech about putting us firmware.
motorola why isnt the uk xoom a GED?

The only thing I can think they are putting in is support for non us external keyboards.
Other than that. Everything is in 3.2
In fact they should push them up to 3.2 anyway
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I thought the Non US 3.1 is more like 3.2 anyway? Didn't they get SD Card functionality with 3.1 instead of 3.2?

Theme Ishere said:
I thought the Non US 3.1 is more like 3.2 anyway? Didn't they get SD Card functionality with 3.1 instead of 3.2?
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If I remember correctly, the SD fix with non-US 3.1 is a Moto fix and not a Google one so, technically, it's not like 3.2 at all. It's 3.1 with a Moto SD fix.

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If I remember correctly, the SD fix with non-US 3.1 is a Moto fix and not a Google one so, technically, it's not like 3.2 at all. It's 3.1 with a Moto SD fix.
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and international keyboard support apparently
when people complained the uk keyboard was seen as a us keyboard layout, moto said that'd be fixed in an upcoming update

Too late Motorola, announced the Update for Canada "soon" been over two months and nothing not even a peep if it follows Europe or Asia or anything. I am ahead of 3.1 anyways. Been running 3.2 and happy no thanks to Motorola.

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and international keyboard support apparently
when people complained the uk keyboard was seen as a us keyboard layout, moto said that'd be fixed in an upcoming update
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Stupid people complaining about the keyboard layout. They don't think of people in other countries who are then made stuck with an UK-layout while their country uses US-layout. Like here in The Netherlands. US-layout is what we use here, but the keyboard sold here for the Xoom is UK-version. If that turns into an UK-layout, then screw those yankers asking for UK-layout. They don't think of other people!

will we get ics on our xoom at the hong kong unveiling?

I reaaly hope we will be first again for honeycomb updates.

We will get it. How fast depends on model. The wifi will be the first to have it most likely with the 4g version getting 4 to 6 weeks later after Verizon gives it the OK. How long the delay between announcement and push is up to Motorola and how long they have been working with it. If past performance is any indicator then at least two other tablets will have it before we do.

I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english

anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?

kenfly said:
anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Let me just consult my magic 8 ball...

jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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The source code WILL be made available. Rubin said so in the past, when pointed out that HC sources were MIA, and he explained the reason for it, saying at the same time that Android sources will be again public once they reunify the 2.x and 3.x platforms into a cleaner, multi-devices software base.
Keep in mind that it's not just the OS based on the open source code that makes the tablet. Look at all those cheap Android 2.1/2.2 tablets - one of the things they often lack is access to the Android Market (in addition to using resistive screens, low performance SoCs, etc...). I suspect that you have to pay a license to Google to be allowed to bundle Google apps such as the official Android Market (someone might confirm this for me). This is where a major player like Samsung or Asus will distinguish itself from your average inexpensive Chinese-made tablet.
So, no reason at all for Google to refuse to distribute the code. Don't forget that the fact it's open-sourced is one of the main reasons behind its popularity.
So in the end, I'm fairly confident the Xoom will get ICS. If not from Morotola, then through unofficial builds from the public repository, like Cyanogen does for phones under 2.x.

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Same day brah

Motorola Xoom to be first Ice Cream Sandwich tablet? http://goo.gl/611fi Shared with APPY Geek (http://www.appy-geek.com
hopefully this rumor is true

Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high. Which tablets got 3.1 first? Which received 3.2 first? There's your answer.

Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
Revolting Revolution. Tapatalk.

S.Meezy said:
Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
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>Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high.
The Xoom isn't an official reference device, and it isn't a refdev for ICS. My guess is that ICS update will come from your friendly custom ROM sooner than from Moto-Goog, as else the new FamilyEd Xoom will need to be updated as well, which probably won't happen any time soon given its new low-end status. Prioritizing and differentiation will mean the focus of development will be on the Xoom2 toys. That's how it has always worked.
The good news is that with ICS hitting AOS, custom ROMs will get better, sooner. In tandem with the above, there'll be more reasons for you to go offroad with ICS, if you haven't already.
>You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
If reports are true, LTE mod will eat up more juice and reduce operating hours.

I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.

iammodo said:
I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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It has been this way for the US Xoom. Until now, Google has been the one who has pushed updates for US Xoom, so there is hope we will get ICS at some point, but i don't believe it's going to happen today. The reference SoC for ICS is TI OMAP, so it doesn't look good for our Tegra powered Xooms.

>I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Apple isn't that different. Old toys don't get the new-fangled Siri thingie.
The 2nd-gen of Android tabs (mostly OMAP4) are only marginally better than the Teg2 hardware wise. ICS will be the big selling point. Differentiation means you don't let old toys have the same functions as the new, as that defeats the purpose of selling new toys.
Speaking of new toys, I like the MotoACTV. The first wearable (and likely hackable) Android device. It would be neat if one can shoehorn a full-fledged Android distro in there. Display is tiny, probably 320x240, but good enough for niche uses. Pricing is outrageous, but it'll drop soon enough.

no release date for ics....just for the nexus on november

they did release the SDK today tho !!!! gonna play with it now

jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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actually the Source Code is already on AOSP's website for developers.

pardon my ignorance but sdk is good for making roms or just to make apps for it...or just to release hacks for other platforms like 3.2.2 ,etc. i just know its good lol but dont know what good it can be.

With the Galaxy Nexus not being released until sometime in November I think we may be waiting until December for an official release. Hope the devs can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
SDK could bring us a release but hardware acceleration is unlikely until we see the official release.
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