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It's October and No "promised update"..and the next day is?

Well apparently the End of September has come and gone. So my questions is this, When will we get any update? I say end of October for the minor update and November for 2.2. Oh and guess what, T-Mobile UK missed their deadline for 2.2:
http://phandroid.com/2010/09/30/t-mobile-uk-misses-end-of-the-month-window-for-galaxy-s-froyo/
Amazing phone Samsung. ..yet this is just another thread of disappointment.

yep,
Either Samsung, Tmobile, or both really let us down

I say Samsung..since it's not their first time...but then again T-mobile don't have a good history either...looks like both.

Why blame everything on Samsung? Give me one good helluva reason. While they should probably deserve partial blame, T-Mobile makes the final call. If T-Mobile says no, then we don't get the update. Simple. Oh, one more thing, T-Mobile UK != T-Mobile USA.
I have no idea what the hell is going on with T-Mobile on releasing updates, but if it's quality over speed, then I will gladly wait unlike most people.

I'm angry at T-Mobile for not giving us any of the possible updates that Samsung made. It makes no since that the Vibrant has been out the longest in the states and hasn't had a single OTA.
I blame Samsung for lack of Froyo. If they can make it run on the tab, they can make it run on the phones. I can't be mad a T-Mobile for that considering no Galaxy S phone has an official Froyo update on it yet.

I wonder what's taking so long, the Tab is basically an 'oversized' Galaxy S (relatively speaking here). If it is working on the Tab it shouldn't take much to port it to the phones.
unless of course, it is held out on purpose so it would not cannibalize the sales of the Tab. Purely my guess.

Its not so bad that its late, its that T Mobile and Samsung haven't kept us updated. A small status or progress update would go a long way.

clivo360 said:
Its not so bad that its late, its that T Mobile and Samsung haven't kept us updated. A small status or progress update would go a long way.
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Second that

Do you not think them saying an OTA will be available soon, is keeping you posted? It was probably pushed back after that clusterfuck of an OTA for the Captivate.

I believe Samsung is full responsible of this situation.
Is not a secret that Samsung lacks on software support. Take the European Galaxy S the unlocked version. The devices came months before the Vibrant in the US and suffers the same stupid TouchWiz bugs and never got an update...
I believe we will be lucky if we see Froyo when Android 3.0 is available. (of course whoever still has a Vibrant by then).
For me that was my first and probably last Samsung device. Its a nice device but FULL of bugs with no a single sign of support... A complete let down for this high class hardware.

Imagine if we go.straight to 3.0?
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Imagine if we go.straight to 3.0?
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We will be lucky if we even get 3.0

Samsung has managed to bork every single update for every US Galaxy S device. Even when they hit the deadline with the Captivate, it didn't fix the issue everyone wanted it to fix. Then, they release the update on other networks, only to tell people "Whatever you do - DON'T download this!". It's a joke.

Guys, relax! Samsung has been telling us that the update is coming "soon" for the past two months, so it's coming "soon"! In other news, the unemployment rates will go down to their normal levels "soon" as well!
/sarcasm

Yeah, its disappointing that the update has taken so long, but nothing to cry over yet imo.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant.

Honestly we should have all expected this after how they handled the behold 2. I felt that a phone that was on all the major carriers would get tons of support, but alas....
Phone didn't work right on launch so bottom line it's samsungs fault.

Agreed
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I got my update via Kies!
Now I wait for 2.2 LOL

This is what EVERYONE who had bought a Beyond, or other Samsung phones kept saying...
Basically that Samsung either breaks their promises, or doesn't deliver on them until way late.
I am going to start looking for a new device. This 2.1 phone should hold me over until the 3.0/Gingerbread devices start coming out.
I am not upset enough to avoid Samsung in the future, but HTC and Motorola will be my first choices.
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I believe Samsung is full responsible of this situation.
Is not a secret that Samsung lacks on software support. Take the European Galaxy S the unlocked version. The devices came months before the Vibrant in the US and suffers the same stupid TouchWiz bugs and never got an update...
I believe we will be lucky if we see Froyo when Android 3.0 is available. (of course whoever still has a Vibrant by then).
For me that was my first and probably last Samsung device. Its a nice device but FULL of bugs with no a single sign of support... A complete let down for this high class hardware.
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Never going to buy a Samsung phone again.
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New phone coming Huawei Honor

Yet another huawei phone that im sure will never get the next Android update
and support will be non-existent after a couple of months of sales
From engadget...
Huawei's four-inch flagship has appeared at a rigorous FCC screening, and this one comes with several radio band changes since its formal reveal. This new CDMA 800/1700(AWS)/1900 variant, making it through the Commission as the M886, indicates the Honor will be making a showing in the US on Cricket as the Huawei Glory. You can expect to see the Gingerbread-running device come with a 4-inch FWVGA (854 x 480) screen, a 1.4GHz single-core CPU, 512MB of RAM, a sizable 1,900mAh battery, an 8 megapixel rear camera and a 2 megapixel front-facing cam.
After having such a long time with a U8800 and no offical updates to 2.3 but continued promises from non-existant huawei tech support, upgrading to the new Samsung Nexus/Galaxy Prime as soon as its out as the specs for it just kick ass on anything else out there,
At least the Samsung will come with the latest OS and im sure the updates will be much quicker than anything huawaitforanupdate... could ever come up with

You bet Samsung or any other manufacturer will provide updates. Just changed to HTC Inc S and received 2 OTA updates in the last few days. Next to come is Sense 3.0

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You bet Samsung or any other manufacturer will provide updates. Just changed to HTC Inc S and received 2 OTA updates in the last few days. Next to come is Sense 3.0
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and probably one of them is to deal with the news-mentioned bug in HTC's own software when collecting user's information and storing them non-securely..

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and probably one of them is to deal with the news-mentioned bug in HTC's own software when collecting user's information and storing them non-securely..
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I've heard about that, but at least HTC cares about that and what users think... God knows what happens on the Huawei phones...

that makes me think of the linux-windows analogue..
with linux (huawei?) u r on ur own.. u can make the best of it, and u can also live in hell with it..
with windows (htc? samsung? etc?) u r well taken care of, and can live happily ever and after..
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btw, did u realise that by buying a htc or samsung phone, u r also contributing to the m$ empire's wealth and health?
anyway, not that many ppl care about that i guess..

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Yet another huawei phone that im sure will never get the next Android update
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I think they promised ICS for Honor (probably like 2.3 was promised for Ideos X5)
Anyone betting on it?

Somewhere was said that Huawei's main focus is on ICS and if they have time they'll do a 2.3 upgrade. Not sure if its true though.
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Sure the U8860 Honor will get the update... but the M886 Mercury in America probably wont. Same phone just a cruddier FFC and its CDMA not GSM. Cricket is a "unlimited everything for one low rate" provider and I doubt will care to update it's customers. But you get what you pay for... a $250 phone with service for $55 a month.
I'm buying the phone today and I will go on a killing spree if it breaks with in the first few months. By then I'm sure they will have lowered the price though :-/

I read somewhere that google's force company's to have last android updates on recent models. that means even x5 have to be updated to ICS because its an 2008+ model. and so on.

I don't know much about this, I tried to search for anything about that quickly and came up dry. Recent models will be updated I'm sure, but if your phone is a year old then too bad.
Also, On Google's site it says that old Android versions can be shipped on any device, since it's open srouce, but can not carry the name Android and will not be part of the Market ecosystem.
Baiscally, I think its up to the manufacturer if they want to spend the time to get the new OS updates to work with a phone even though Google tries to make it easy. Low-end models will suffer and get lost in the dust.
Now about carriers pushing updates OTA... I think that will only last about a year to 18 months. Why give you the latest OS when you can come back and spend more on a new phone?
Food for thought: A year ago I bought the Samsung Galaxy-S from T-Mobile, it didn't have the latest Android version. T-Mobile said they weren't planning on pushing the update OTA when it came out. Instead said to use Samsung's Kies which failed miserably. At the time I wasn't the only one who had trouble with the software. So I loaded up a custom ROM with a newer Android OS and a sleek dark look.

Looks like a cool phone. Happy with the x5 for now though.
Guess the moral is you get what you pay for really. Huawei package good hardware into a reasonably nice phone and they sell it cheap, why do we expect updates to next version of Android? You pay an extra couple of hundy for a sammy or htc with the same specs, you can start to expect updates. Buy an Iphone and it is a part of the deal for a generation or 2.
It is the biggest problem with android that there is no central control. Google makes a new version, phone manufacturer has to update everything to support it, carrier has to decide to push it and then customise it and then you have to update it using any of a bunch of methods. It is too messy and nobody has control to make sure phones are good and functional before being shipped out the door.
Also ICS has bumped up the minimum specs so everything down in spec from a nexus s should not expect ICS any time soon if ever.
I love xda for making cheap phones completely usable and awesome with custom firmwares and great devs.

Currently from Huawei official BBS there is no plan to release ICS version to X5. The new model Honor already have the ICS pilot version.
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XDA-J said:
Currently from Huawei official BBS there is no plan to release ICS version to X5. The new model Honor already have the ICS pilot version.
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So if the Honor has it, the Mercury should too. Only difference is CDMA and FFC....
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PaulMilbank said:
Looks like a cool phone. Happy with the x5 for now though.
Guess the moral is you get what you pay for really. Huawei package good hardware into a reasonably nice phone and they sell it cheap, why do we expect updates to next version of Android? You pay an extra couple of hundy for a sammy or htc with the same specs, you can start to expect updates. Buy an Iphone and it is a part of the deal for a generation or 2.
It is the biggest problem with android that there is no central control. Google makes a new version, phone manufacturer has to update everything to support it, carrier has to decide to push it and then customise it and then you have to update it using any of a bunch of methods. It is too messy and nobody has control to make sure phones are good and functional before being shipped out the door.
Also ICS has bumped up the minimum specs so everything down in spec from a nexus s should not expect ICS any time soon if ever.
I love xda for making cheap phones completely usable and awesome with custom firmwares and great devs.
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the above about min requirements is far from true.. If you have a phone that will run 2.2 or above it WILL RUN ICS Better. The biggest improvements in ics is in how it handles memory and cpu cycles.It all uses a whole new ui called render script. that threads the ui thru the gpu Hardware rendering. This makes ics run even better on older hardware.
This is all over the net check it out. and YOUTUBE as well..
I to am wondering about ICS ON The mercury. Unless we can gind a very good DEV that can port the u8860 rom to the M886 . from gsm to cdma .
Anyway just my opinion. I went from honeycomb to ics on my icionia a500 and its like a new device
Erica Renee

Phone looking great, but after many problems in the past with x5, i will never buy huawei again.

Does anyone here own the Huawei Honor? I plan to buy this phone. What are your impressions with it?
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By the way, what are the differences between Ideos X6 and Honor?

I got the Honor 10 days ago !
For what it is, this phone is great, getting it was a very last minute decision (duty free shop in the Airport), but I'm happy I did.
I was able very easily to put ICS on it and it runs great every thing is better about the phone (except for the camera which is horrible), the ICS room is from HUAWEI and its called Cambodia Demo but it works great including Google play.

I heard they was updating 07/13/12
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For those thinking in buy Huawei, make your savings and buy some other brand.
Huawei = ZERO client support updates that makes the phones even worst, so you will be on your hands.

agree with last user.
huawei makes good specs for money... but has the worst development and costumer care I know...
I probably wont buy this brand again, my good impression from x5 capacities exist thanks to DZO, nothing more !
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will we get ics on our xoom at the hong kong unveiling?

I reaaly hope we will be first again for honeycomb updates.

We will get it. How fast depends on model. The wifi will be the first to have it most likely with the 4g version getting 4 to 6 weeks later after Verizon gives it the OK. How long the delay between announcement and push is up to Motorola and how long they have been working with it. If past performance is any indicator then at least two other tablets will have it before we do.

I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english

anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?

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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Let me just consult my magic 8 ball...

jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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The source code WILL be made available. Rubin said so in the past, when pointed out that HC sources were MIA, and he explained the reason for it, saying at the same time that Android sources will be again public once they reunify the 2.x and 3.x platforms into a cleaner, multi-devices software base.
Keep in mind that it's not just the OS based on the open source code that makes the tablet. Look at all those cheap Android 2.1/2.2 tablets - one of the things they often lack is access to the Android Market (in addition to using resistive screens, low performance SoCs, etc...). I suspect that you have to pay a license to Google to be allowed to bundle Google apps such as the official Android Market (someone might confirm this for me). This is where a major player like Samsung or Asus will distinguish itself from your average inexpensive Chinese-made tablet.
So, no reason at all for Google to refuse to distribute the code. Don't forget that the fact it's open-sourced is one of the main reasons behind its popularity.
So in the end, I'm fairly confident the Xoom will get ICS. If not from Morotola, then through unofficial builds from the public repository, like Cyanogen does for phones under 2.x.

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anyone know how how long after the unveil the wifi version should get the update?
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Same day brah

Motorola Xoom to be first Ice Cream Sandwich tablet? http://goo.gl/611fi Shared with APPY Geek (http://www.appy-geek.com
hopefully this rumor is true

Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high. Which tablets got 3.1 first? Which received 3.2 first? There's your answer.

Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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Haven't sent my "4G" Xoom to MOTO/Verizon because I use it as WiFi only, will I have to send it in to continue on the upgrade path?
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You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
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>Since the Xoom is the reference tablet...a pure Google experience device, the chances of it getting ICS sooner than later are high.
The Xoom isn't an official reference device, and it isn't a refdev for ICS. My guess is that ICS update will come from your friendly custom ROM sooner than from Moto-Goog, as else the new FamilyEd Xoom will need to be updated as well, which probably won't happen any time soon given its new low-end status. Prioritizing and differentiation will mean the focus of development will be on the Xoom2 toys. That's how it has always worked.
The good news is that with ICS hitting AOS, custom ROMs will get better, sooner. In tandem with the above, there'll be more reasons for you to go offroad with ICS, if you haven't already.
>You might as well send it to get the upgrade. The resale value will be higher.
If reports are true, LTE mod will eat up more juice and reduce operating hours.

I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.

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I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Loved that about apple.
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It has been this way for the US Xoom. Until now, Google has been the one who has pushed updates for US Xoom, so there is hope we will get ICS at some point, but i don't believe it's going to happen today. The reference SoC for ICS is TI OMAP, so it doesn't look good for our Tegra powered Xooms.

>I hope Google take a leaf out of Apples book and say updates are being pushed out after this event.
Apple isn't that different. Old toys don't get the new-fangled Siri thingie.
The 2nd-gen of Android tabs (mostly OMAP4) are only marginally better than the Teg2 hardware wise. ICS will be the big selling point. Differentiation means you don't let old toys have the same functions as the new, as that defeats the purpose of selling new toys.
Speaking of new toys, I like the MotoACTV. The first wearable (and likely hackable) Android device. It would be neat if one can shoehorn a full-fledged Android distro in there. Display is tiny, probably 320x240, but good enough for niche uses. Pricing is outrageous, but it'll drop soon enough.

no release date for ics....just for the nexus on november

they did release the SDK today tho !!!! gonna play with it now

jerses said:
I dont think so.maybe next year because ICS is the selling point of every new phone out there so they got to give them the novelty of ICS. Also i dont think they will release the code to devs (or what every they need to make chinese tablet) because of that. Imagine that you sell a $499 tablet vs a $99 tablet that has the same hardware...thats what they did with honeycomb. So my money is maybe on december after the samsung galaxy 3 gets old. Also, i think the tablets right now are really defragmented (dont know the word im looking for) so ICS have to pass from google to Motorola ( and we all know motorola) after ICS i guess we all going to get the same updates.sorry for the english
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actually the Source Code is already on AOSP's website for developers.

pardon my ignorance but sdk is good for making roms or just to make apps for it...or just to release hacks for other platforms like 3.2.2 ,etc. i just know its good lol but dont know what good it can be.

With the Galaxy Nexus not being released until sometime in November I think we may be waiting until December for an official release. Hope the devs can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
SDK could bring us a release but hardware acceleration is unlikely until we see the official release.
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Motorola Xoom 2 Media Edition

I don't understand the reason why there's not a Motorola Xoom 2 ME thread. In the Motorola Xoom 2 (10.1) rom the same of the ME? Thank you guys!

Hey
I have one of those too.
The ROM isn't exactly the same, but close enough that any exploit for the Xoom 2 would also apply.... like the root method.

Casey Rain said:
Hey
I have one of those too.
The ROM isn't exactly the same, but close enough that any exploit for the Xoom 2 would also apply.... like the root method.
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Thanks for the answer But now have you have a custom rom or use the stock? Because I want to buy this tablet that in my opinion is beautiful, but i'm afraid about the support of developers

pegox said:
Thanks for the answer But now have you have a custom rom or use the stock? Because I want to buy this tablet that in my opinion is beautiful, but i'm afraid about the support of developers
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The is no custom ROM's or leaks for the "XOOM 2" at the moment due to the locked bootloader, you can only root at the mo. However Motorola recently has been hinting on Twitter that an unlockable bootloader tool is coming, so if they are telling the truth this time then development will come after they release the tool. If you want a dev friendly Xoom tablet I would go for the original but if you fancy waiting a while then I would go for the Xoom 2.

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The is no custom ROM's or leaks for the "XOOM 2" at the moment due to the locked bootloader, you can only root at the mo. However Motorola recently has been hinting on Twitter that an unlockable bootloader tool is coming, so if they are telling the truth this time then development will come after they release the tool. If you want a dev friendly Xoom tablet I would go for the original but if you fancy waiting a while then I would go for the Xoom 2.
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Thank you is however the ME of the Xoom 2 a good product? Because i live in Italy and i don't know someone with this one I can buy it for 264.99€ on Expansys. Is that a good purchase? Thank you very much

pegox said:
Thank you is however the ME of the Xoom 2 a good product? Because i live in Italy and i don't know someone with this one I can buy it for 264.99€ on Expansys. Is that a good purchase? Thank you very much
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I will say its worth the money. The XOOM 2 has a sexy display, design and weighs lighter than the original Xoom. Plus Motorola should be rolling the ICS update next month hopefully. I will say buy it if you want a device which does the job. But you can always read the reviews from tech sites.

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I will say its worth the money. The XOOM 2 has a sexy display, design and weighs lighter than the original Xoom. Plus Motorola should be rolling the ICS update next month hopefully. I will say buy it if you want a device which does the job. But you can always read the reviews from tech sites.
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Thanks the last question In your opinion is worth € 265?

Yeah, it is.
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Yeah, it is.
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Thanks!

Hey i'm in a similar condition !
What would you recommend between a motorola xoom 3g 299 € and a motorola xoom 2 ME WiFi 264 € ?
Does Xoom 2 will be updated to JB ? Why Motorola supports more his older device ?
Thanks

Google is supporting it mainly, not moto

i found the frimeware to MZ 607, 608 e 616 in this forum....if help.....follow sbf.droid-developers.org

The only thing holding me back from buying this tablet is its support for motorola. they had promised so well JB ICS should be a feasible thing. I would never buy it and then stay with HC

However for the european people http://www.expansys.it/clearance.aspx?featuredTag=moto10&staticPage=motorola&instockonly=false
This is the italian site but the promotion is valid also for France and Germany

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i found the frimeware to MZ 607, 608 e 616 in this forum....if help.....follow sbf.droid-developers.org
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and what can we do with this? Develop rom?

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Google is supporting it mainly, not moto
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Huh? Google has nothing to do with the Xoom 2 whatsoever. The original Xoom was Google's baby and is the Google Experience Device that showcased Honeycomb. It was a Nexus in all but the name.
The Xoom 2 is all Motorola from the customized ROM to the bootloader that's locked down tighter than a gnat's ass. Google does not support the Xoom 2 in any way, shape or form.

oldblue910 said:
Huh? Google has nothing to do with the Xoom 2 whatsoever. The original Xoom was Google's baby and is the Google Experience Device that showcased Honeycomb. It was a Nexus in all but the name.
The Xoom 2 is all Motorola from the customized ROM to the bootloader that's locked down tighter than a gnat's ass. Google does not support the Xoom 2 in any way, shape or form.
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I was talking about Google supporting the original Xoom, yes.
Seems I didn't quote a reply. I

But Google owns Motorola ! :cyclops:

Arloc said:
But Google owns Motorola ! :cyclops:
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True, but they didn't when the Xoom 2 was first released, and Google has made it abundantly clear that, for the forseeable future at least, Motorola is going to continue to run as its own independent company.
It really has to be that way if you think about it, because the last thing Google wants is to piss off their major OEM partners like HTC and Samsung by putting all their marketing resources into Motorola and having Motorola release nothing but phones running in stock Android configurations. That would put an enormous dent in HTC and Samsung's sales and that's a calculated risk that Google can't take because without HTC, Samsung, and Motorola, Android is a mere drop in the bucket as far as the smartphone world goes; and don't think for one minute that HTC and Samsung wouldn't find alternative operating systems or platforms to use if their Android phones weren't moving units.
Nevermind the fact that Verizon is Motorola's bread and butter right now, and Verizon would happily give the DROID trademark license to another OEM if Googarola went to Verizon and said "From this point forward we're releasing nothing but stock Android devices with no bloatware." How do you think that'd go over with Verizon? Yeah, exactly. haha

Motorola software updates

I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.

Unless someone here can tell the future....
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Someone with an inside source said that their timetable for releases is 2 months after a new version is released.
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
The two month timetable isn't assume h that has been officially confirmed, so it may not be completely accurate.
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I've read a few articles which mentioned that although Motorola is now owned by Google, they are in fact keeping a "firewall" between the two companies. This could explain why the Moto X was released with 4.2 instead of 4.3.
Also, based on what I've seen in recent trends, carriers will be releasing Android OS updates over the air as opposed the Motorola (at least here in the States). Some approach OS updates better than others. Verizon is known to take their time releasing updates to phones because of the extensive testing they do with an upcoming update for a particular device. Take for instance the Droid DNA, a device released close to the end of last year which is only now getting the update to 4.2 from 4.1. I sincerely hope the Moto X does not see such neglect when it comes to future updates but I also wouldn't be surprised.

Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.

with the ability to flash roms coming soon this may not matter
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scorpion667 said:
Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
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I'd like to believe that Moto offers better support than Samsung and HTC. The 4.3 update is still in the works but hard to put an eta on it as they probably still need time to make sure the moto apps and hardware is optimized to work properly. Other than improved performance and stability, I'm not missing anything by using 4.2.2 for now.

One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.

housry23 said:
One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.

NoNameAtAll said:
The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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This. If it's going to take moto two months, expect longer because it will need to be blessed by the carriers before OTA updates are pushed out.

I wonder where the T Mobile X fits in then... Will it be updated straight from Moto? If not that might be a big problem because T Mobile obviously doesn't even support the phone.

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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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You're right. I actually had a big long post about how once Motorola gets the code, implements their features, at&t still has to test it and approve. Hopefully, since it's basically stock android, it won't take as long because the skinning process doesn't have to happen.
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Motorola has a very mixed record so far with their updates. The OG Droid was actually quite good at getting updates in a timely manner and only trailed the Nexus by a few weeks. After Motorola switched to Blur though for all their devices they lagged behind by a few months and even though with Jelly Bean they removed most of the Blur apps in favor of stock, that was still nearly what 9 months after 4.1's source was released before the Razr, Bionic, Droid 4 all got it. In fact for a while there they were one of the slowest at releasing their updates.
Now the Moto X is a new beast though and different from what Motorola has done now so it's hard to say. All the previous devices were part of the "old motorola" and the X is the first device of the "new motorola". The X is almost pure stock so there is very little tweaking that will need to be done. They just need to add in support for their Camera App, Active Display and Touchless Controls, do any kernel updates/bug fixes and then test/resolve any new bugs that popped up in 4.3. Motorola has said that an update is in the works and will come out soon with many improvements for the Moto X. Is this 4.3 or just a newer 4.2.2 build? We don't know.
I'd like to imagine that we will see 4.3 released sometime between now and early October on all carriers considering Samsung announced they will begin to roll out 4.3 to the SGS4, SGS3 and Note2. If Motorola is the first to release a stable, solid build of 4.3 for their new X8 devices and continues to keep up with their updates in a quick and timely manner, it would do a lot to rebuild their name. Right now we just have to wait and see if Motorola is serious about getting better about releasing timely updates or not.

clankfu said:
I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
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I'm in contact with Punit Soni (Moto X product Manager). He's very active on Google+ and he addressed the update and OTA of 4.3 questions. He said when they officially released the device to distributors, 4.3 just got announced. So it was either delay the Moto X and piss off many pre-ordering customers, or continue with the primary plan and push through with 4.2.2.
He said the update is "Coming soon" as they always say, and he promises many fixes like Camera improvements, Picasa or Google Photos sync for Gallery, and OS 4.3 very soon.

"When will then be now? Soon!"

EDIT: wrong thread.

linuxgator said:
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
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Each OEM gets the source at the same time. Makes no difference. The only reason it takes so long is a mixture between putting loads of framework in. And wanting to get new hardware out.
Moto, working with next to stock android, will be much much faster. No they dont get special treatment per se. But time will be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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GR36 said:
But time should be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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FIFY

If it goes the way the Tmobile nexus 4 goes than it will be updated right away. My son has the nexus4 bought directly from Tmobile store & it receives updates along with those bought directly from Google. I know its still a nexus and the moto x isn't but from what I understand the Tmobile version of the x doesn't have any carrier installed stuff on it, so hopefully it will be treated as a device like the Google editions.
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