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10.1v 3.1 update

Is it ever gonna happen.
Or shall we move to xoom?
Honest question needs an honest answer

Especially sine vidafoine has already ditched 10.1v, I doubt it will be updated ever.
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I asked my provider Vodacom (owned by Vodafone) about the 3.1 update for the Galaxy Tab 10.v. This is what I wrote to them:
"To whom it may concern
I have a contract with Vodacom ,and they gave me a Galaxy tab 10.1, but it only has Android 3.0.1 installed. I would like to know when Vodacom/Vodafone will release the software update to Android 3.1 so that I can finally attach USB devices to my Tablet. It is a little frustrating having old software while other tablet users already have the update (Take the Motorola XOOM for instance, and the fact that the Galaxy 10.1 is already shipping with Android 3.1 in the states).
So my honest opinion is if Vodacom wants to be a credible and reliable mobile operator selling the latest technology, then they must update their Tablets/Smartphone to the latest software promptly."
I'll post their reply here...

yeah that would be nice to wait for their answer. But i think vodafone wont follow the 3.1 update path cuz the update will be different for 3.1 v cuz it has 3g from the 3.1 update for wifi only version.
I personally think, since 10.1 is out......the development and tweaks here at xda will slowly die down for 10.1v.
Samsung does it again. Loyal customers are kicked out.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129309

I already have 3.01. The most verifiable source would be vodafone to answer our questions.
Do we have 3.1 or not. !0.1 is already shipping with 3.1.

I finally got an answer from Samsung south Africa and the update is expected to come in August, at least on south Africa. So it seems like by September we'll have the 3.1 update.
Samsung promises me a follow up phone call with a data expect to explain more and if I get interesting information I will post it here.
What a mission to get anyone to speak on this...
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I got an answer from Vodacom directly and all they said was that Samsung had already released the 3.1 update and now vodacom's technicians were busy with it to ensure it was compatible with their services and network.
But no expected date for release was given.
Honestly though, My hopes are lying with the XDA community, I still think that if we can repartition the 10.1v then hopefully it will allow us to flash the 10.1 updates or roms with minimal effort. We have all the driver source codes for the 10.1v so hopefully that will also help things.

Twigster, just for interest's sake - to whom did you speak to at vodacom. Honestly speaking I found them unhelpful.
I'm not going to buy a network operator branded device again. My nexus is always yge first to get updates because it's unlocked.
Sigh
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I emailed their support division for answers the day that 3.1 was released for the 10.1. They came back to me about two weeks later with that response. So no one in particular.
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as our 10.1v is stock honeycomb cant we just update through google?
I thought that running stock was supposed to make us free from the carrier update chains..
anwyays, you can already flash 3.1 with touchwiz UX in the 10.1v developmet forums, so why not give it a shot if you really want 3.1?

Any new info? When to expect the 3.1 update...

replikon said:
Any new info? When to expect the 3.1 update...
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I talked with some VF AUSTRALIA guys, they have 3.2 for almost a month and now they are in testing.....

By time they will release ics is 5 years time. Its so frustrating.
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stop waiting
Stop waiting...and carry on with what ever you want to do....it aint worth !

Confirmed : Non-US 3.1 DOES enable SD Card support

Finally some good news for anyone outside the US!
"The non-U.S. 3.1 update does include SD card activation"
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/410341
Post from Motorola forum manager
Still no news on when we'll get it in the UK, but good news in general

More news on the Motorola forums:
Should get within the next few weeks
"Good news!
The 3.1 update for the Motorola XOOM™ outside the U.S. has started. Owners in Japan started receiving the update today (June 21). Owners in other regions can expect updates to start over the next several weeks until the roll out is complete.
Motorola has responded to the widely-expressed desire to have the SD card activated on Motorola XOOM. The 3.1 update for non-U.S. devices, in addition to many other improvements, also includes an SD card activation solution. Release notes for this update will be made available in each region. Please note that functionality varies by region."

So...when do US users get SD support?!

i would like for someone with a non US Xoom to confirm that it works.

good for those non-US XOOM owners...but I'm pretty sure that the largest % of XOOM owners are based in the US...so why push the SD support to all other regions excluding the US is beyond me....
I'm sure US will get it shortly after you guys...but it would be the smartest thing for Moto's Marketing to just push the SD support update to all XOOM owners in ALL REGIONS...

T0LLPHR33 said:
good for those non-US XOOM owners...but I'm pretty sure that the largest % of XOOM owners are based in the US...so why push the SD support to all other regions excluding the US is beyond me....
I'm sure US will get it shortly after you guys...but it would be the smartest thing for Moto's Marketing to just push the SD support update to all XOOM owners in ALL REGIONS...
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ahhh....because they were releasing anyway...and it was an easy way to get to the next step. My bet is the US will see 3.2 with SD card support...and bug fixes based on the NON US 3.1 release.
Dev for things like this never stops....they fork the tree and keep going. Sounds like the fork was....US/NON US. eventually the forks come back together.....and eventually they will fork again...with each new release.
It will be interesting to see if the 4g implementation is 100% HW based....most likely...but...who the heck knows...

from matt at motorola forums
The solution being used outside the U.S. is developed by Motorola. Non-U.S. Motorola Xooms are not GEDs. Given that they are getting updates later than the U.S. Motorola Xooms, we elected to provide our solution now vs. waiting for the Google solution.
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alodar1 said:
ahhh....because they were releasing anyway...and it was an easy way to get to the next step. My bet is the US will see 3.2 with SD card support...and bug fixes based on the NON US 3.1 release.
Dev for things like this never stops....they fork the tree and keep going. Sounds like the fork was....US/NON US. eventually the forks come back together.....and eventually they will fork again...with each new release.
It will be interesting to see if the 4g implementation is 100% HW based....most likely...but...who the heck knows...
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I know this was a little far fetched for even me but I was really hoping that at the very least the SD support aka HC 3.2 update would come a lot sooner than later (was really hoping to have the SD support before I go on vacation this saturday)...oh well looks like I'll have the update either during or after my vacation...
It almost makes sense that they pushed the 3.2 Update/SD Support to the non-US regions 1st since US was the 1st to get the 3.1 update...still say that Moto should have put the foot down by now and just released the update to all regions...but I'm sure there is a ton of work to allow all features to be working and released in their own regions...
I'm really interested to see how quickly the 4G LTE hardware/software upgrade comes to us after the 3.2/SD support update is released? hhhmmm....

T0LLPHR33 said:
I know this was a little far fetched for even me but I was really hoping that at the very least the SD support aka HC 3.2 update would come a lot sooner than later (was really hoping to have the SD support before I go on vacation this saturday)...oh well looks like I'll have the update either during or after my vacation...
It almost makes sense that they pushed the 3.2 Update/SD Support to the non-US regions 1st since US was the 1st to get the 3.1 update...still say that Moto should have put the foot down by now and just released the update to all regions...but I'm sure there is a ton of work to allow all features to be working and released in their own regions...
I'm really interested to see how quickly the 4G LTE hardware/software upgrade comes to us after the 3.2/SD support update is released? hhhmmm....
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Well I certainly can I say Android development is new to me. With GED and non GED. I understand the base releases of the OS and its updates....and in general understand the Branded skinning that has to take place. Not sure if those terms are appropriate. I think its hard as a consumer sometimes to think that a company is NOT working on a fix to your problem....specifically. They are instead working on whats next....and included in the whats next is x% bug or issue fix from the previous release. That is, of course, if the bug is not destroying sales.. IF the bug is a show stopper, then all hands on deck to get it fixed. With the SD card implementation, it has been a future investment. Because the investment can come in 2 different flavors....GED and NON GED, the timeline is different. I 'assume' the Xoom is a GED and as such, cannot, by contract, implement a NON GED resolution....without the goodwill of Google.
To my knowledge 3.2 doesn't mention a SD card resolution. If it does, then the answer is clear. Otherwise...development continues. Dev of 4.0 is not waiting on 3.x. 3.1 was most likely not waiting on 3.0 to release...but, could be incorporating some 3.x fixes, etc.
Since Matt over in Motorola says this is a NON GED implementation....3.2 falls back into the guess category...where we can add as many fixes and features as we wish...and be radically disappointed when it does release.

alodar1 said:
Well I certainly can I say Android development is new to me. With GED and non GED. I understand the base releases of the OS and its updates....and in general understand the Branded skinning that has to take place. Not sure if those terms are appropriate. I think its hard as a consumer sometimes to think that a company is NOT working on a fix to your problem....specifically. They are instead working on whats next....and included in the whats next is x% bug or issue fix from the previous release. That is, of course, if the bug is not destroying sales.. IF the bug is a show stopper, then all hands on deck to get it fixed. With the SD card implementation, it has been a future investment. Because the investment can come in 2 different flavors....GED and NON GED, the timeline is different. I 'assume' the Xoom is a GED and as such, cannot, by contract, implement a NON GED resolution....without the goodwill of Google.
To my knowledge 3.2 doesn't mention a SD card resolution. If it does, then the answer is clear. Otherwise...development continues. Dev of 4.0 is not waiting on 3.x. 3.1 was most likely not waiting on 3.0 to release...but, could be incorporating some 3.x fixes, etc.
Since Matt over in Motorola says this is a NON GED implementation....3.2 falls back into the guess category...where we can add as many fixes and features as we wish...and be radically disappointed when it does release.
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Not entirely correct. XOOM in the US is a GED which gets updates direct from google and which as of now still does not have sd card support. Xoom outside the US are not GED and as such get updates from Motorola. Motorola is getting a hard time since google didn't implement sd support and so they are / have implemented their own fix. This means that those of us outside the US have to wait longer but we get the added advantage of Motorola devs going a few rounds with our updates before the bell. As such, the update we are about to receive (3.1) is the same google version with additional changes by Motorola, namely SD support.
This could be seen as a good or a bad thing, either way, its entirely possible (and quite likely right now) that the rest of the world will see official SD support before the US.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.

They're probably just releasing the "Motorola" version of the Tiamat kernel.

robbiev80 said:
They're probably just releasing the "Motorola" version of the Tiamat kernel.
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Ah yes... the TED variant is blessed with many goodies
...xoom posted...

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They're probably just releasing the "Motorola" version of the Tiamat kernel.
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I thought the same!
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Hmm. It's a shame that Moto have to go down the path of implementing their own fix. Obviously this means that for the US Xoom to stay a GED they will need to wait for Google to provide a solution and CANNOT roll out their SD fix to US Xoomers.
Here's my take on things:
US gets 3.1 first, way ahead of Rest of World
ROW get 3.1 weeks/months later but with Moto SD fix
US will NOT get Moto SD fix
US gets 3.2 way ahead of ROW (with SD fix??? I certainly have not seen evidence that this is the case)
Moto probably ignore ROW for 3.2 and concentrate on ICS.
Looks like a mixed bag of good/crappy support for the Xoom.

I postulate that the SD card update will be available for download and/or installed when LTE upgrade happens.

burden010 said:
Hmm. It's a shame that Moto have to go down the path of implementing their own fix. Obviously this means that for the US Xoom to stay a GED they will need to wait for Google to provide a solution and CANNOT roll out their SD fix to US Xoomers.
Here's my take on things:
US gets 3.1 first, way ahead of Rest of World
ROW get 3.1 weeks/months later but with Moto SD fix
US will NOT get Moto SD fix
US gets 3.2 way ahead of ROW (with SD fix??? I certainly have not seen evidence that this is the case)
Moto probably ignore ROW for 3.2 and concentrate on ICS.
Looks like a mixed bag of good/crappy support for the Xoom.
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probably - although moto fix and google fix for sd may be different things - meaning that as you said, moto will skip 3.2 or they'll be an EVEN LONGER delay in applying it to ROW

3.1 rollout china

Apparently 3.1 rollout has started in china.

Any evidence for this as there was noot much feedback from japan
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Not really, only Motorola's saying
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/415043?tstart=0#415043

when this came out in US some people got it by changing the xoom date settings ? possibility in outside US ?

Seems odd that 11 days after the Motorola 3.1 update with SD card support started rolling, out I've only seen a single blog post confirming it and offering any details.

oh well, several weeks for more ;p
maybe not many Japs have the Xoom... they all have the US version instead or flashed their Japanese Xoom with the US image

i think they have an update in japan.
http://k-tai.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110621_454725.html
http://eguchi.jp/blognplus/index.php?e=449
But the moto policy sucks in many ways. vague info - no dates - embarrassing

3.1 for Europe in Early August

got this via notification email this morning...
5. 27-Jul-2011 08:01 (in response to Matt (Forums Manager))
Want news about updates to non-U.S. Motorola Xooms? Follow this thread. Android™ 3.1 for Motorola XOOM™ will soon be available over the air to all Motorola XOOM users in Europe. We expect the over-the-air deployment to begin in early August, with the package being available for pull by August 9th.
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/434194#434194

Meh too little to late, gave up waiting updated to 3.2 with my UK 3G xoom. Methinks Moto would be better served hiring the Tiamat team...LOL
Lordao

I'm sorry but how can it take that long to add in different locates the app on the market does it in 10seconds.
Motorola has no reason to delay it this long.
when people use my xoom and say yer i might get one.
I have to then reel of a speech about putting us firmware.
motorola why isnt the uk xoom a GED?

The only thing I can think they are putting in is support for non us external keyboards.
Other than that. Everything is in 3.2
In fact they should push them up to 3.2 anyway
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I thought the Non US 3.1 is more like 3.2 anyway? Didn't they get SD Card functionality with 3.1 instead of 3.2?

Theme Ishere said:
I thought the Non US 3.1 is more like 3.2 anyway? Didn't they get SD Card functionality with 3.1 instead of 3.2?
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If I remember correctly, the SD fix with non-US 3.1 is a Moto fix and not a Google one so, technically, it's not like 3.2 at all. It's 3.1 with a Moto SD fix.

burden010 said:
If I remember correctly, the SD fix with non-US 3.1 is a Moto fix and not a Google one so, technically, it's not like 3.2 at all. It's 3.1 with a Moto SD fix.
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and international keyboard support apparently
when people complained the uk keyboard was seen as a us keyboard layout, moto said that'd be fixed in an upcoming update

Too late Motorola, announced the Update for Canada "soon" been over two months and nothing not even a peep if it follows Europe or Asia or anything. I am ahead of 3.1 anyways. Been running 3.2 and happy no thanks to Motorola.

Lothaen said:
and international keyboard support apparently
when people complained the uk keyboard was seen as a us keyboard layout, moto said that'd be fixed in an upcoming update
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Stupid people complaining about the keyboard layout. They don't think of people in other countries who are then made stuck with an UK-layout while their country uses US-layout. Like here in The Netherlands. US-layout is what we use here, but the keyboard sold here for the Xoom is UK-version. If that turns into an UK-layout, then screw those yankers asking for UK-layout. They don't think of other people!

Update ICS Canada XOOM Wi-Fi

Calling all Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi owners: Your tablet experience just got a lot sweeter! Starting today the Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade will begin rolling out to your device. Get ready to enjoy updated web browsing, a redesigned app launcher and all the unique features only ICS can offer: http://bit.ly/JVnFdI

Good to see Motorola has started rolling out their non-Google proprietary ICS builds for the Xoom. Hopefully this means MZ601, MZ605 and MZ606 won't be far behind.
Let the "Why hasn't Verizon approved Google's ROM for rollout to the 3/4G Xoom yet??" begin in 3..2..1..

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Good to see Motorola has started rolling out their non-Google proprietary ICS builds for the Xoom. Hopefully this means MZ601, MZ605 and MZ606 won't be far behind.
Let the "Why hasn't Verizon approved Google's ROM for rollout to the 3/4G Xoom yet??" begin in 3..2..1..
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I think our heads have already exploded with pure rage.
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Yeah tell me about it. But we don't need to **** all over this thread. The Canadians should be happy about this.

Woo Hoo
Happy Happy Joy Joy.......
VERY NICE INDEED... SMOOTH UPGRADE...

Finally
What a surprise. Just when i was about to flash the us-built firmware today to be able to upgrade to ICS. better late than never.. updating now ..
I hope it is not much different than the US version.

Not available for me in Vancouver
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Calling all Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi owners: Your tablet experience just got a lot sweeter! Starting today the Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade will begin rolling out to your device. Get ready to enjoy updated web browsing, a redesigned app launcher and all the unique features only ICS can offer: http://bit.ly/JVnFdI
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Hi, the xoom firmwares works the same as razr? I mean, brazilians xoom can flash canadian rom as happen to razr?
Thanks man
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Has Motorola loaded the Canadian ICS with any 'extra' software?
What version of Android 4 is it using? (4.0.3 or 4.0.4?)

It is 4.0.3 version of ICS

Additions
Equalizer now available in music player..By pressing power and volume down at same time gives you a screenshot of what's on your screen..Panorama now available in camera mode. Nice tweaks....

Trying to download the Canadian Xoom Wifi image from the page at http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/ but the site seems to be down.
Does anyone have the direct link to the image?

Still hasn't pushed out to my Xoom.
Is there a way to force the update?

I just flashed my Australian Xoom with the Canadian images but it only upgraded itself to Honeycomb 3.2.
Flashed back to the US images (4.0.4).

Lucky buggers, I hope the uk version isn't far behind. Still, took them long enough!
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I'm very interested to hear if there are any significant differences in the Canadian ICS rom compared to the US one (i.e. SD card access debacle in 3.2 awhile back when Canadians could access it, but the US version couldn't).

Does it fix the keyboard lag present in HC 3.2? I'm in UK so hopefully we'll see this update in the next few weeks.

I'll take that as a no then?

I've read it improves the keyboard lag to a point that its not noticeable. I don't know personally since I'm still waiting
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I had mine updated last night...
was great at first, felt snappy!
Then I fell victim to the constant freezing every time it went to sleep. It's pretty much unusable right now for me, unless I keep it awake all the time.
I waited so long (didn't expect it really) for ICS, so I'll wait a bit longer for Motorola to hopefully figure out a fix. Isn't just me, so I'm hoping that happens!