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10.1v 3.1 update

Is it ever gonna happen.
Or shall we move to xoom?
Honest question needs an honest answer

Especially sine vidafoine has already ditched 10.1v, I doubt it will be updated ever.
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I asked my provider Vodacom (owned by Vodafone) about the 3.1 update for the Galaxy Tab 10.v. This is what I wrote to them:
"To whom it may concern
I have a contract with Vodacom ,and they gave me a Galaxy tab 10.1, but it only has Android 3.0.1 installed. I would like to know when Vodacom/Vodafone will release the software update to Android 3.1 so that I can finally attach USB devices to my Tablet. It is a little frustrating having old software while other tablet users already have the update (Take the Motorola XOOM for instance, and the fact that the Galaxy 10.1 is already shipping with Android 3.1 in the states).
So my honest opinion is if Vodacom wants to be a credible and reliable mobile operator selling the latest technology, then they must update their Tablets/Smartphone to the latest software promptly."
I'll post their reply here...

yeah that would be nice to wait for their answer. But i think vodafone wont follow the 3.1 update path cuz the update will be different for 3.1 v cuz it has 3g from the 3.1 update for wifi only version.
I personally think, since 10.1 is out......the development and tweaks here at xda will slowly die down for 10.1v.
Samsung does it again. Loyal customers are kicked out.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129309

I already have 3.01. The most verifiable source would be vodafone to answer our questions.
Do we have 3.1 or not. !0.1 is already shipping with 3.1.

I finally got an answer from Samsung south Africa and the update is expected to come in August, at least on south Africa. So it seems like by September we'll have the 3.1 update.
Samsung promises me a follow up phone call with a data expect to explain more and if I get interesting information I will post it here.
What a mission to get anyone to speak on this...
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I got an answer from Vodacom directly and all they said was that Samsung had already released the 3.1 update and now vodacom's technicians were busy with it to ensure it was compatible with their services and network.
But no expected date for release was given.
Honestly though, My hopes are lying with the XDA community, I still think that if we can repartition the 10.1v then hopefully it will allow us to flash the 10.1 updates or roms with minimal effort. We have all the driver source codes for the 10.1v so hopefully that will also help things.

Twigster, just for interest's sake - to whom did you speak to at vodacom. Honestly speaking I found them unhelpful.
I'm not going to buy a network operator branded device again. My nexus is always yge first to get updates because it's unlocked.
Sigh
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I emailed their support division for answers the day that 3.1 was released for the 10.1. They came back to me about two weeks later with that response. So no one in particular.
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as our 10.1v is stock honeycomb cant we just update through google?
I thought that running stock was supposed to make us free from the carrier update chains..
anwyays, you can already flash 3.1 with touchwiz UX in the 10.1v developmet forums, so why not give it a shot if you really want 3.1?

Any new info? When to expect the 3.1 update...

replikon said:
Any new info? When to expect the 3.1 update...
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I talked with some VF AUSTRALIA guys, they have 3.2 for almost a month and now they are in testing.....

By time they will release ics is 5 years time. Its so frustrating.
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stop waiting
Stop waiting...and carry on with what ever you want to do....it aint worth !

Xoom WiFi USA (stock) just got pushed ICS Android update (IML77) v4.0.3

Hope we ll be getting a more stable port soon..

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Hope we ll be getting a more stable port soon..
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This is the Galaxy tab 10.1 forum. We don't have the same hardware, so this won't help anyone here.

Yup. It was announced two days ago. It was Motorola's way of squeezing the last buck out of the xoom before they can it. They wanted it to appeal to the masses because of ics' huge "success."
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I think we're missing the bigger picture here..... Xoom got ICS before the SGT10.1 did, before CM9 was moved out of Alpha, before any other tablet on the market today! Sure, it's a "pure Google experience" device, and Google wanted Moto to get the first crack at it, which is all understandable from the official ROM release standpoint, but where the hell are we in all this? I thought CM9 was a go on the SGT10.1 before any other tablet?
Still waiting patiently, but man, that really sucks for us.....

Pretty sure there are hardware issues preventing a finished port. Check out the Cyanogen interview from another site.

GarciaM25 said:
I think we're missing the bigger picture here..... Xoom got ICS before the SGT10.1 did, before CM9 was moved out of Alpha, before any other tablet on the market today! Sure, it's a "pure Google experience" device, and Google wanted Moto to get the first crack at it, which is all understandable from the official ROM release standpoint, but where the hell are we in all this? I thought CM9 was a go on the SGT10.1 before any other tablet?
Still waiting patiently, but man, that really sucks for us.....
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Youre forgetting xoom was lead vehicle for honeycomb so it is likely part of the deal that they get first update
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Google is purchasing Motorola Mobility. So the xoom getting ics first shouldn't surprise anyone.

How is this surprising news? Anybody who can read would know the xoom would get ics first.
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MintJulep said:
Google is purchasing Motorola Mobility. So the xoom getting ics first shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Google is TRYING to purchase Motorola, doesn't mean it's going to happen. Remember all the people who said "hey, at&t bought Tmobile!" or "hey, at&t is buying Tmobile!"
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GarciaM25 said:
before any other tablet on the market today!
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The Transformer prime has gotten the ICS update.

GarciaM25 said:
I think we're missing the bigger picture here..... Xoom got ICS before the SGT10.1 did, before CM9 was moved out of Alpha, before any other tablet on the market today! Sure, it's a "pure Google experience" device, and Google wanted Moto to get the first crack at it, which is all understandable from the official ROM release standpoint, but where the hell are we in all this? I thought CM9 was a go on the SGT10.1 before any other tablet?
Still waiting patiently, but man, that really sucks for us.....
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not sure I get you: CM9 is a modified ICS build that uses ICS code + specific hardware drivers (so it's custom for each device); a google experience device is specifically designated by google to be the first with new OS version. So you should expect the GED to get the update before any official CM9 is released. Also, I have to disagree that it "sucks for us" - don't conflate someone else's good fortune with your own bad fortune.

Hear Hear
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I can't say I'm impressed until ICS gets released for the Galaxy Tab 10.1...

Scared27 said:
The Transformer prime has gotten the ICS update.
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Wasn't the ATP just released with ICS, not updated to it?
Also, I'm pretty glad to see that ICS is rolling out for ANYTHING that wasn't given to it at birth. Doesn't anybody see that this just means things are moving along as they should be? At least in the smallest bit?

ATP initially shipped with HC.
It's no surprise that Xoom was the first - in fact I'm shocked it took this long for it to get an official update release, considering it's been supported in AOSP from the beginning.
As others have said, the Xoom was a Google Experience device. Consider it to be the Nexus of Honeycomb tablets.

I've waited very patiently for ICS on the Gtab 10.1. I think I still have a bit of patients left. Task's rom makes the tab enjoyable for now.

Jayhawk84 said:
I've waited very patiently for ICS on the Gtab 10.1. I think I still have a bit of patients left. Task's rom makes the tab enjoyable for now.
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I think you mean "patience."
If the gtab 10.1 gets an official OTA what will that mean for CM9? Would it just be a quick fix to any lingering CM9 issues and thereby push us into a CM9 custom ROM immediately? Or would the CM9 devs have to re-develop the new distribution for release?

You know...
There are two things I always hear in technology forums:
1- WOW! Look a girl in the forum!
2- OMG! You always complain....
But yeah, maybe they are right.. Maybe I complain... a lot...
You know, its not that I am jealous that Moto has got ICS before Samsung.
What drives me crazy is that fact we dont even have an ETA. I wouldnt mind waiting until March or April, but a dead line would be nice, or at least a sign that they are doing something! A beta maybe?? A proof of concept? Photos??
But no... Not even a word, nothing...
Last I heard from Samsung is that they got sued by Apple... Then....
*NOTHING*

What exactly are you looking to do differently on your tab when you get ICS?
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Stardate is right lol
besides the difference in the system build, what are you going to do with it? having HC 3.2 and ICS 4.0, you'll do the same thing. what is so proud of getting ICS first when you do know GT10.1 will get it later on. maybe Samsung just keep it as a secret to do more experience test than others.

Atrix 4G on AT&T list for ICS Rollout

AT&T Press Release
Engadget Release
AT&T the First U.S. Carrier to Issue Latest Android Version via Upgrade
Update Includes Beats By Dr. Dre Audio™ and Updated HTC Sense™ Experience
Android Upgrades for Several AT&T Devices to Follow
DALLAS, March 22, 2012 – AT&T* today announced the availability of Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) for HTC Vivid™ customers. After installing the software update, customers can now enjoy the optimized audio experience of Beats by Dr. Dre Audio™ and new and improved HTC Sense™ experience. Information about these features and more can be found at http://www.att.com/vividupdate. HTC Vivid™ will be the first U.S. smartphone to receive Ice Cream Sandwich as an update and the first to be issued by a wireless carrier. It will be followed by several other AT&T devices in the coming months:
LG Nitro
Motorola ATRIX 2
Motorola ATRIX 4G
Pantech Burst
Pantech Element
Samsung Captivate Glide
Samsung Galaxy Note
Samsung Galaxy S II
Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket
Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9
Focused on bringing the power of Android to the surface, Android 4.0 makes common actions more visible and lets you navigate with simple, intuitive gestures. Refined animations and feedback throughout the system make interactions engaging and interesting. An entirely new typeface optimized for high-resolution screens improves readability and brings a polished, modern feel to the user interface.
New User Features for HTC Vivid
Beats By Dr. Dre Audio™ - Enhance your music and video experience with Beats By Dr. Dre Audio. Whenever a media file is played using the media players or most third party applications, customers will experience richer, more authenic sound. AT&T recently debuted the Beats™ by Dr. Dre™ Beatbox Portable high performance wireless audio system. The superior portable system and Beats accessories are available at AT&T company-owned stores or online.
Face Unlock - Android 4.0 introduces a completely new approach to securing a device, making each person's device even more personal - Face Unlock is a new screen-lock option that lets you unlock your device using facial recognition. It takes advantage of the device's front-facing camera and state-of-the-art facial recognition technology to register a face during setup and then to recognize it again when unlocking the device. Just hold your device in front of your face to unlock, or use a backup PIN or pattern.
How to Upgrade
Beginning today, customers can download the update via Wi-Fi by visiting http://www.att.com/vividupdate. If Wi-Fi is not available, you can download the software upgrade to a PC and install it via sideload. On March 23, HTC Vivid customers who have not downloaded the upgrade will begin receiving an SMS notification of upgrade availability.​
Edit: I just learnt that this is old news. Motorola had already published ICS schedule on 15th Feb. Its covered in this thread. Apologize for duplicate thread, but hope that official At&T update press release adds value.

in the coming month？only god know when.

Ummm ... folks have been talking about this for weeks now.

kidqian said:
in the coming month？only god know when.
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In the coming months. Don't get too excited, yet.

kidqian said:
in the coming month？only god know when.
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cnewsgrp said:
It will be followed by several other AT&T devices in the coming months:
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Months. Plural. Not next month. Doubt it would even be the one after that. Motorola's site says
ICS Upgrade rollout begins in Q3 2012
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nunjabusiness said:
Ummm ... folks have been talking about this for weeks now.
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Strange. The press release is from yesterday. Before that it was speculation. Its official now. I don't know about others, but I like to use ROMS that are as close to official as possible + rooted and deodexed. So I am looking forward to this.
Also Atrix is the best phone I have used so far and this means that I am keeping it for at least 2 more years.

Not looking forward to a Blur ICS. Looking more towards the bigger picture of cm9 being awesome. Now if we could get the new Sense 4 on the Atrix....
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Europe
Hello!
I've read that Atrix in Canada will not have Ice Cream, is it possible?
What about Europe? Do you have anynews?
Thank you!

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Strange. The press release is from yesterday. Before that it was speculation. Its official now.
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It's been official for weeks that ICS is coming to the Atrix 4G. Motorola had this information out long ago.

Yeah, it was "Officially" announced by AT&T yesterday but Motorola "Officially" added the Atrix to the list last month.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Check the link and you will see it is slated for "Q3 2012" and it says the page was updated on "15-February-2012".
And if you look at this thread you will see it was "coincidentally" created on the same day (Feb15):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499788
Motorola wasn't allowed to release an actual statement because AT&T is a control freak.
cnewsgrp said:
Strange. The press release is from yesterday. Before that it was speculation. Its official now. I don't know about others, but I like to use ROMS that are as close to official as possible + rooted and deodexed. So I am looking forward to this.
Also Atrix is the best phone I have used so far and this means that I am keeping it for at least 2 more years.
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Official Blurred ICS + ICS Launcher + Webtop = Epic stuff
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live4nyy said:
Yeah, it was "Officially" announced by AT&T yesterday but Motorola "Officially" added the Atrix to the list last month.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Check the link and you will see it is slated for "Q3 2012" and it says the page was updated on "15-February-2012".
And if you look at this thread you will see it was "coincidentally" created on the same day (Feb15):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499788
Motorola wasn't allowed to release an actual statement because AT&T is a control freak.
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Agreed and accepted.

djluis48 said:
Official Blurred ICS + ICS Launcher + Webtop = Epic stuff
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Agreed. For me its the best phone. I have (mis)used it for the last year and it works great! Its the right size. I am going to keep this till they iron out LTE bugs (battery life etc) and its rollout is substantial. Probably 2 years from now.

andrew.cambridge said:
Not looking forward to a Blur ICS. Looking more towards the bigger picture of cm9 being awesome. Now if we could get the new Sense 4 on the Atrix....
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I've seen screenshots of a leaked Blur ICS build for the Razr. Blur was a lot lighter and more integrated with ICS. It should help out with CM9 development though.
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It should help out with CM9 development though.
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That's exactly why I'm pleased that ICS is being released for the Atrix, because CM9 development (official CM9 development, not the Kangs that are currently out) is going to need it for stuff like the hardware drivers. Code that's specific to the Atrix should work a lot better than code that's been cribbed and hacked from other phones.

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I've seen screenshots of a leaked Blur ICS build for the Razr. Blur was a lot lighter and more integrated with ICS. It should help out with CM9 development though.
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Yeah I just checked it out. It looks better than GB Blur. But boy do I hate Blur. It's ugly. Along with CM7. AOSP CM9 is a huge improvement. Sense and CM9 are the best.
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I personally can't wait for ICS with Blur... ics by itself (the cm9 roms at least) so far doesn't seem to have Facebook sync, I have found a few work arouns with haxsync and other programs, but its always nice to have the official tried tested and true applications.... I have had my atrix for about 3 months now, came from a LGP500, and when I first started using blur I didn't really think it was anything special, but when I u/l and modded my phone to ICS cm9, I really miss the functionality of blur, all the little extras help, like different options when you plug into USB, social updates, etc. plus the website for blur.... .2

Prospects for Jelly Bean on the Xoom?

So...today Jelly Bean was accidentally outed on the Google Play Store as Android 4.1. If you added a Galaxy Nexus to your cart, the line item read "Soon to be the first phone with Android 4.1 Jelly Bean"
Obviously we are all expecting the new Nexus tablet to be unveiled at Google I/O. With that in mind, adding to it the fact that the VZW Xoom will reach 18 months in August and the WiFi Xoom in October, what say ye? Do we stand a chance of getting Jelly Bean on the Xoom?
I personally say yes since JB is just a point release. I'm sure WiFi will get it first followed by VZW a month or two later. If the Xoom gets JB however, I would be shocked if it received the next major release (5.0).
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Unless Google changes something dramatically like they did from Gingerbread/honeycomb to ICS, I would think the community will be able to get it running quite easily. However, I'm doubting anything farther than 4.1 will be official.
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Hopefully, havent had an update for my xoom in a long time!
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I think the chances of officialness is fairly decent, and even still, it'll be open source and the Xoom specs are still decent, it won't be hard to get it running. I even think the the next update could be official. HTC still give official updates the the Desire HD (Inspire 4G I think) and that's over 2 years old but still a decent device
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Hopefully this Xoom will be updated to jellybean should be easy since this device is stock ICS.

Motorola hasn't yet updated to ICS and you ask for Jelly Bean?????
EMEA Wifi + 3g Xoom haven't yet got ICS.
They will need at least two years.
What a mistake buying a product from usa manufacturer......never ever again.....

Xoom WIFI hopefully will be updated. It has received updates in a timely matter. If not the community will address the update.

I'm talking about the US version, where the Xoom runs stock ICS and gets updates straight from Google. The international versions have Motorola customizations and obviously, updates come from Motorola rather than Google. You guys are probably screwed.
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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
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1:11 p.m.: Jelly Bean will be available to the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S and Motorola Xoom starting in mid July.
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More importantly, the Jelly Bean SDK is available today.

So happen I still have my xoom... Jelly is coming in July... I can't wait....

Who cares about what Motorola does? We have some awesome developers who fixed ICS to us european users.

Forget ICS! Jelly Bean is looking very impressive! Love the offline Voice to Text function. And the Voice Google Search is really nice.
Google+ for tablets today and Jelly Bean in a few weeks. Exciting day for my Xoom.

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Did they just say that the Xoom is getting Jelly Bean mid July at the Google I/O keynote?!
Edit: Yep
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...log-googles-io-keynote-address/1#.T-s_afXud8E
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Yeah, gizmodo reported the same thing: http://gizmodo.com/5921713/android-jelly-beans-new-features

So, one thing that didn't seem clear... the Nexus 7 is obviously designed to be held like a phone (portrait mode)... so the decision to still have it default to a tablet like interface in apps (larger screen) yet still retain the phone like UI layout makes sense... But what about for landscape style 10 inch tablets like the Xoom? Are we going to see the honeycomb like interface disappear and be replaced with the jelly bean launcher at the bottom / notification bar at the top?

That would be a mistake. I use the Xoom with almost entirely widgets. The large screen is conducive to quickly scanning content in widgets. Mail, News Reader, Calender, etc. without even opening the app.
But that new Google+ for tablets is definitely landscape mode.

I think it would be a mistake too... but it seems they are trying to unify the interface between the two even more... I hope not...

on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.

ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Tell that to Director of Product Managment, Hugo Barra. He said it.

ezekionokia said:
on the xoom 2 we still don't have ICS, not to mention android 4.1.
Keep dreaming boys.
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Clearly you don't get it. The original Xoom is a Google Experience Device in the USA. It's like a Nexus tablet without carrying the Nexus name. It runs stock Android and updates come from Google. The Xoom 2 is NOT a Google Experience device, therefore it runs a customized firmware done by Motorola and updated by Motorola.
You're comparing apples to trucks.
The U.S. WiFi-only and Verizon 3/4G Xoom models will get Jelly Bean. As for international Xooms, who knows. The Xoom 2 isn't part of this discussion.

Motorola's broken promise

After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.

Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...

Chaosgod27 said:
Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
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It dosen't matter which XOOM you have, all of them should be updatet http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/

Google handled the Xoom. Xoom 2 and all those other nonsense locked bootloader tabs are Moto's responsibility. Can't change it not but you'll buy a GED like the Xoom in the future I'm sure.

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After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
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That makes two of us!!!
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Same with me. Additionaly xoom2 608 us giving me problems like crashes, frequently stops responding etc. I use stock rom no root just few apps. Never again moto.
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I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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big ach said:
I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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Common sense?

I feel for all you guys who, like me, are bitterly disappointed by Moto's lack of updates for the Xoom 2, and the seemingly pointless hope that there will ever be custom ROMs for this device.
I purchased my Xoom 2 over a year ago, and had to wait an eternity for the update from HC to ICS. I shouldn't have bothered waiting. I'm not a dev, so I don't know the intricate details of the Android workings....all I can say is that, in my opinion, the stock ROM is utter, utter, monumental rubbish!
My tab is laggy, unstable and generally unpleasant to use on a daily basis. In fact, it's been lying in my bag for about 2 weeks with a flat battery, and I can't even be bothered to charge it.
I now have a complete loathing for anything Moto, and I will never recommend a Moto device to anyone.
I saw some posts some time ago, which said that Moto took an eternity to release ICS because they wanted to make it "stable" and "bug free"....FAIL! It still has problems with the browser randomly closing while mid session, and as mentioned before, it's painfully laggy.
I'm going to try a complete wipe and factory reset to see if I can salvage the £300+ I spent on this POS, but I'm not feeling optimistic.
If anyone has any suggestions, then I would be grateful to hear them.....please don't suggest selling it, I'm seriously debating that now LOL
Good luck guys...and thanks for nothing Moto

The Android Update Alliance was dead on arrival. None of the OEMs stuck to it and no one apparently took it seriously.
Its a real shame that OEMS fail to support products properly and its one of the biggest reasons ill be sticking to Nexus devices in the future.
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^Pretty much even I don't remember the promise...

What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.

jimboogly said:
So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
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I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.

big ach said:
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.

Cubanluke88 said:
I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
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Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean. 18 months was up in October 2012. I'd say we got all that we could, particularly since the Xoom had a really small system partition from the start. Fortunately there are some great developers making 4.2.1 work near flawlessly on the Xoom.
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The thing about the Xoom is that each step, from 3.x to 4.0 and 4.0 to 4.1, it saw MAJOR improvements. Honeycomb was just genuinely bad, no surprise there as it was essentially a closed beta. ICS unified 2.3 and 3.x. For users that went straight from 2.3 to 4.0 (i.e. most phones that upgraded), they didn't really see a very large performance upgrade. But for users on 3.x like us, it was HUGE. I remember when it came out. It gave the tablet new life. Conversely I remember a lot of phone users being irritated by it because of the huge UI change (and very little, if any perceivable performance upgrade, as 2.3 was already a reasonably stable OS).
And then 4.1 introduced project butter which improved performance across the board and again, new life in our aging device.
I'd like to say that 24 months should be the standard, but really with how fast hardware improves and with a new Android release roughly twice a year, I can understand the 18 month policy.
It did the Xoom wonders. If you didn't experience it much or don't recall, flash back to a 3.x rom. That **** was just bad. I'm pretty content with my Xoom staying on 4.1 for the foreseeable future.

The LTE Xoom remains a tragedy (though mine is still chugging along) and it is the MAIN reason the Google merger and all of this banter about a Motorola X phone doesn't mean crap to me.
I hold Motorola and Google (and Verizon) responsible for this lie of a tablet. No official Jelly Bean is pathetic. Truly pathetic.
I can't wait to get a Note.
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sbrownla said:
I can't wait to get a Note.
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Good luck. Samsung and other OEMs are no better when it comes to updates (except maybe Asus and Acer).
For instance, Samsung abandoned the 2011 galaxy tab 10.1 at Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0).

Updates, updates, updates...it's all you generally hear on these forums. Don't forget the only way anyone makes any money in Androidville is through HARDWARE. If Moto or whoever update Xoom2 to current Android version, how are they gonna sell Xoom3 and Xoom4 and Xoom X or whatever they're going to call it?
Honestly, think about how these people make money and it's a no brainer. I got a Xoom as I knew it was a GED and got WI-Fi as the GSM/CDMA/LTE versions never get updates (historically). But at the end of the day you make the decision to buy the hardware knowing that in 2 yrs the HARDWARE won't be able to keep up anyway and will have to be replaced (Xoom getting bit long in the tooth now but is suprisingly robust IMHO).
If you get updates for all of eternity then what motivation do you have to purchase a new device?