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Google Wave

Is anyone here using Google Wave on your Hero?
Is it just me or does it really takes a few minutes to load? Opening each wave takes quite some time... Is there something I can do about? (I'm using unrooted Hero and oppening site with default browser).
Thanks.

I can't open it at all. It says not suported browser :/

there's a link below that "not supported browser" that offers you to continue anyway at your own peril
however, it's slow, tortures Hero, but then again, my Macbook Pro froze from Wave since it only has 2GB RAM, on my Vaio i got a 2.2GB RAM in use, of which 980 was Safari with Wave (Win7, not Vista)....so, Wave is a RAM hungry monster that makes serious laptops uncomfortable, no way is it ready for mobile browsing :?
i think Google should have waited and released it when it became Beta, not Alfa v1.0

suisen said:
there's a link below that "not supported browser" that offers you to continue anyway at your own peril
however, it's slow, tortures Hero, but then again, my Macbook Pro froze from Wave since it only has 2GB RAM, on my Vaio i got a 2.2GB RAM in use, of which 980 was Safari with Wave (Win7, not Vista)....so, Wave is a RAM hungry monster that makes serious laptops uncomfortable, no way is it ready for mobile browsing :?
i think Google should have waited and released it when it became Beta, not Alfa v1.0
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So...it says it's not supported and that continuing is pretty much at your own risk...and people are wondering why it's not working? Just making sure I'm clear...

thecodemonk said:
So...it says it's not supported and that continuing is pretty much at your own risk...and people are wondering why it's not working? Just making sure I'm clear...
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Yes. I know it sounds funny.
But Hero (or better yet, mobile devices) uses a 'mobile' version of site that should be at least semi-usable.
Did anyone test it on Opera Mobile or other browser?

It's fairly usable for me once everything's loaded (including the Wave you wanna edit).
On my netbook I have no trouble, and it has 1GB of RAM, so to the guy on a laptop something else is obviously wrong.

Google Wave is... a disappointment
Also, I really doubt it'll run on Hero unless theres a specific app for it.

i used for a little while Dolphin Browser..it's a great app..with tabs and favorite sites and many other features..you should try it...i was using the browser for reading newspapers and other stuff... but now i installed a RSS reader...

callummr said:
On my netbook I have no trouble, and it has 1GB of RAM, so to the guy on a laptop something else is obviously wrong.
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i think it depends on the size/amount of active waves....i had 2 imported ones that were huge, 200 people each, god knows how many blips....killing those did settle the problem, but it still says Alfa is not something you should release to "general public" :/

I bet there will be a google wave app for android

Archos Gen8 Internet Tablets

If this is the wrong place for this thread sorry but I could see a forum for these devices.
I just ordered the Archos 101 Internet Tablet 16 GB. It was a toss up between that tablet and the Viewsonic G-Tab. The lighter weight and form factor of the Archos, as well as the fact they were actually in stock and cheaper then the Viewsonic made me end up with one of those.
Has anyone started playing with these devices yet to see if they can be rooted, custom recoveried, or ROM'd yet? I'd love to get Cyanogen 2.2 or a lightweight 2.2 build on this device. Thanks!

Permanent root is still being worked on. Don't plan on seeing Cyanogen on them (at least I haven't heard anything about the Cyanogen team coming up with anything). Once permanent root comes (after the 2.2 update), then custom ROMs will be coming down the pipe.

z4root works for temp root right now, and hopefully perm root soon. If you apply the current 2.2 you will want z4root and SetCpu (search XDA) to get your CPU clock speeds back to 1 GHz.
There are some internal 2.2 fixes coming in the next firmware from Archos that should stabilize things a bit and *hopefully* enable hardware acceleration in Flash. Once that firmware is out we should be at a decent starting point for custom development.

"and *hopefully* enable hardware acceleration in Flash"
It is officially stated by Archos that the hardwareaccelerated Flash is there and just needs confirmation by adobe.

fzelle said:
It is officially stated by Archos that the hardwareaccelerated Flash is there and just needs confirmation by adobe.
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Not sure about you, but the whole process of even getting my A101 wound up being a I'll believe it when I see it affair. I trust the better (working) Flash is coming, but until I see the firmware I will continue to hope.

Hexidecimal said:
Has anyone started playing with these devices yet to see if they can be rooted, custom recoveried, or ROM'd yet? I'd love to get Cyanogen 2.2 or a lightweight 2.2 build on this device. Thanks!
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I have an A70. It's basically the 101 with a 7" screen, so they are the same. I was hesitant to be too exited about it when I decided to order. I had never owned an Archos. In fact, I had never even heard of them.
Now that I actually have my A70, I am very pleased with it. It is fast and very responsive. And the build quality is quite high. On par with Apple even. (please don't start a flame war over this, it's just my opinion).
The real thing that has me exited is that, once this baby gets rooted, it's gonna be so frickin awesome. I don't know about Cyan, but I think there will be some great Roms for it coming down the pipe. After all, there are only a few viable Android tablets out there for a while (the Gtab, Galaxy and Archos), so devs will probably focus their talents on those. It's not like the phone market where you have 50 different platforms to choose from.
Just my .02 cents. I hope you enjoy your A101.

Archos 101: 'Lag' reinvented
I have a Archos 101 8Gb since 2 weeks.
I also own a Samsung Galaxy S, getting rid of 'lag' on the Galaxy S is a big thing in the Galaxy S forums. But compared to a Archos 101, the Galaxy S merely hesitates a bit, while the Archos frequently has to be resurrected from the dead it seems. There is plenty of room for serious improvement, at this moment it doesn't come close to the performance of a standard Samsung Galaxy S or HTC Desire, especially when swithcing apps or screens, or when something is downloading.
So, looking forward to customizing!
Archos 101 8Gb Froyo 2.2, Z4Root + SetCPU 1000Mhz.

Why would it be so hard to root or create ROMs for this device when Archos, on their website claim that this is all open source and even possible to dual boot?
Possibilities beyond Android™ with the ‘Dual OS’
Just like a PC, the ARCHOS 70 internet tablet can be freely programmed in alternative ways. This gives developers programming options in addition to the applications that can be created for the Android platform. To have total control of your Internet Tablet, ARCHOS has opened up this device, thus allowing creative minds to program their own tablet, or create what could be the tablet of the future.
ARCHOS has decided to « open » its ARCHOS 70 internet tablet by proposing to install and replace the system running Android originally installed on the machine.
Developers and programmers can choose for the operating system running under Linux distribution Ångström.
Developers can install this OS on an ARCHOS 70 internet tablet and join the Linux community which is developing a new interface, new icons, drivers, programs ... dedicated to this platform.
Skilled developers and programmers can now choose to switch over to a true standard Linux environment as offered by the Ångström Linux distribution. Developers can put this on their ARCHOS 70 internet tablet devices and join other enthusiasts who are experimenting with various ideas and interfaces based on the Linux operating system.

The difficult part is they compressed the file system with squashfs, which is a read only system.
I'm not too familiar with linux or android os, but I've read people saying that it has to be decompressed before we can have read/write access for root

xShadoWxDrifTx said:
The difficult part is they compressed the file system with squashfs, which is a read only system.
I'm not too familiar with linux or android os, but I've read people saying that it has to be decompressed before we can have read/write access for root
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There is a workaround for r-only but it's not ready yet. Over at archosfans one of members is trying to remount /system and enable writing, thus providing us with permanent root access. It's work in progress...

zad225: That might require the SDE which I will be released in the next couple days.

Techngro said:
Now that I actually have my A70, I am very pleased with it. It is fast and very responsive.
The real thing that has me excited is that, once this baby gets rooted, it's gonna be so frickin awesome.
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No poster is addressing the big problem with the 101: RAM is limited to 256MB, a huge technical and marketing disaster. My phone has 512MB...!
I have two days to decide whether to return it or not. RAM gets well below 50MB easily, and the tablet gets very slow and laggy. I've uninstalled everything I can think of, and under the best circumstances I get 72MB free, dangerously close to a slowdown...
I love everything else about it, specially the weight and the sound. But right now I'm leaning to a return, because even modding will not overcome the RAM problem.
Can someone technically qualified refute my opinion..? I don't mean "it works fine for me" or "be patient", I mean a technical reason that would eliminate the slower speed and lagginess.
Thank you.

You could add a swap file if you are temp rooted.
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marclh1992 said:
You could add a swap file if you are temp rooted.
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just searched the gen8 section and I don't find any directions on adding a swap file . does someone have a link to a HOW-TO on that

argie said:
No poster is addressing the big problem with the 101: RAM is limited to 256MB, a huge technical and marketing disaster. My phone has 512MB...!
I have two days to decide whether to return it or not. RAM gets well below 50MB easily, and the tablet gets very slow and laggy. I've uninstalled everything I can think of, and under the best circumstances I get 72MB free, dangerously close to a slowdown...
I love everything else about it, specially the weight and the sound. But right now I'm leaning to a return, because even modding will not overcome the RAM problem.
Can someone technically qualified refute my opinion..? I don't mean "it works fine for me" or "be patient", I mean a technical reason that would eliminate the slower speed and lagginess.
Thank you.
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Sorry but can you give a technical reason on why 256MB RAM is a huge technical and marketing disaster?
The Motorola Droid has 256MB of RAM and runs Froyo fine including Flash. I am able to get down to 25MB or less with no slow down. So saying that the 256MB of RAM is the root problem is incorrect. Would more memory be nice? Of course it would.
The main reasons people are seeing issues is because of some bugs in the current Archos Froyo implementation. It also appears that JIT is not actually enabled in this first Froyo build either. Both of these items can be fixed with a software update.
Another reason I see is the incorrect use of task killers. People seem to think they need to kill all running programs when in fact that can cause slowdowns, instability, crashes and lockups.
I have also seen user error that causes a lot of issues. Mostly from new to Android people that have no clue what they are doing. They install half baked programs that cause some of the issues mentioned above.
I think if you give it some time then things will become nicer. If your not willing to wait then I'm sure you can pick up a new tablet within the next couple of months that will meet your criteria.

Go to this website for how to use a swap space. It fixed most problems for me.
forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=42718
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Action Item!! Petition to Increase Apps Partition

If you're anything like me, you're frustrated with having only 300MB of an 8GB drive available to install applications. Sure, custom firmware is a potential solution, but should we really have to void our warranties for basic, no-brainer functionality? I say no! Sign this petition, and once we have a demonstrated body of people interested, we can all make Archos aware of it.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/archosgen8
Thanks, friends.

thiazzi said:
If you're anything like me, you're frustrated with having only 300MB of an 8GB drive available to install applications. Sure, custom firmware is a potential solution, but should we really have to void our warranties for basic, no-brainer functionality? I say no! Sign this petition, and once we have a demonstrated body of people interested, we can all make Archos aware of it.
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/archosgen8
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as I wrote [EDIT] on Archosfans forum [/EDIT] 1GB is fine for the A43 and up considering the uSD slot, but max I could accept for my A32 would be to go to a max of 512MB.
I'd doubt that A28 owners would want to give ANY space up at all, but it's even more limited as far as storage goes than the A32 and I'd have to call it of questionable usefulness for apps given that I really only run apps on the A32 in a pinch. (Probably because I find the ultra low res annoying... not to mention the A28 is also further constrained by available RAM...)

Right, so an optional firmware update or modification would be ideal. I trust the folks are Archos are savvy enough to account for everybody's needs.

If you have root (Archangel works) try Move2SD Enabler.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720739
Its fantastic, read the instructions and don't move any system apps or apps using widgets.

I have installed move2sd enabler, and it definitely helps. However, if you like to read a lot like I do and have Kobo, Nook, Kindle, Aldiko, and OverDrive installed, they still leave a combined total of like 30MB+ on the system storage! That's 10 percent or more of the app partition just for books. Throw in a couple of games like Pocket Legends and Angry Birds, and you're cooked!
I wish more devs would be like the folks that made Highborn or Shadow Era, and only leave like 300KB of the original 44MB apk on system storage, but I think petitioning Archos is more likely to help our little Gen 8 community more immediately.
Thanks for the sigs, folks. We're already up over 20!

You know actually thinking about this the gTablet and many other just allocate 2GB to app storage, which I wouldn't mind either. OTOH I think that I've barely used 425MB or so max on the gTab at one time or another...
IIRC many games with "HUGE" (well for mobile devices) seem to prefer to put their data in /sdcard which depending upon device is actually the SD card(or uSD) or the leftover internal flash not assigned to system or data etc. I must admit to not having really paid attention to how the Archos tabs do it as I've left bothof mine bog standard stock fw plus various additional apps which suits me for what I use them for.
(Even my phone is stock but that's gonna have to change as it has even LESS storage for apps which is also shared for things like messaging... but I'm going to try to hold out for the next update then go to a CM7 variant that pushes apps out onto the uSD...)

Would rather they made it an option (like the FAT32/ext3 choice).
Making it compulsory and 1gb is not in everyones interests. Some users will instill no apps or very few and want all the storage for music/movies etc. Forcing 1GB apps area on them is wrong and will also mean archos are not providing the advertised storage in these users eyes.
I suggest we request they add an option to either turn on/off the larger 1GB apps area. Or have a drop down box where the user can choose apps area. Say; 300MB (Standard/Default), 500MB, 750MB, 1GB & 2GB. This way the user can choose the most suitable apps partaition size for themselves and on the flipside Archos are still providing (selling) the advertised data storage out of the box.
Not sure how but, if others agree, can we ammend this petition so we are asking archos to allow the user to select a larger apps partition either 1GB (yes/no arrangement) or select apps partition size from a small list.
Would this idea not be much better for all concerned.
Kind Regards
John

I don't support this petition and think the devs should rather spend their time with something more important. I only install the applications I need and uninstall everything I don't need. If one really needs more, then he can install Uruk.

1Gb might be a little too much : I only have the 8gb model (hopefully I have a 16Gb sd card)!

Unmensch said:
I don't support this petition and think the devs should rather spend their time with something more important. I only install the applications I need and uninstall everything I don't need. If one really needs more, then he can install Uruk.
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Even if you uninstall you will find that you are still eating up space. Furthermore, using UrukDroid voids your warranty and this shouldn't be required. The 101 was advertised with 8/16GB and no mention was included in the marketing material about the 256MB capacity for apps. This should not be an issue but it is and it is a bit peevish of you to take such a position since the worst thing that could happen in your case is a reduction of internal storage by some megabytes, which even if you were using you can make up with an SD card.

This is one of those things that bugs me about android; why cant I choose the install location? I now have 4 android devices, so I am not hating on it. I just miss all the features of Symbian and WinMo 6.5, like installing where I want. If anyone knows why they did it this way im all ears, maybe they had a reason?

Easy Answer.
There are paid Apps in the Market and the ( google ) needed a more or less easy but effective way to secure them so that stealing them is not easy.
So in the first 6 incarnations Apps are phone Memory only.
With Froyo they invented a feature where the appdev could decide that and how much of the app could be put somewhere else.
So if there would be none/less people stealing apps there would be no need for this.

no works on my 101

Bounty for honeycomb! $170 so far!

Let's get some developers in here!!
So far we have!
$60 from me
$30 from chrisrotolo
$60 from jitin02
$20 from zinqzinq
Maybe $60 from Revin lol

frigid said:
I will throw 60 in lets get some developers motivated
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+1...........................................................m with u

If it will be usable (so I guess we will have to wait for HC 3.2 anyway) then 60 USD will still be much cheaper than buying new device (not to mention that there is no other 5 inch screen smartphone and no, I am not buying anything with smaller screen ).
So, count me in

Put me down for $30, maybe more for full RC, no bugs.

count me too
My 60us$

and mine 20 cos im student

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jitin02 said:
count me too
My 60us$
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+10... As it makes total of 7(6+0+1+0) and lol its my lucky number
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chrisrotolo said:
Put me down for $30, maybe more for full RC, no bugs.
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For me even if its lil buggy ... will donate more for improvements
And GUYZ I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS FOR CYANOGEN TOO .. WHOZ WITH ME.........
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Plus 20
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Ill post up 100.00 if they can fix the volume for bluetooth and aux jack. of all the phones ive tested the bluetooth volume and syc suck along with aux volume output.
id like ice cream or the latest stable build

30USD OR 2 Bitcoin (that should make 200USD now in total paypal alright?) for any honeyc build that has
a) usable, everyday speed
b) Bluetooth phone communication is working
(yes I am happy to wait for whatever 3.x version is workable or available)
question / suspicion tho: in the streak 7 forums I read the insane increase in DPI needed, to make the high res apps usable... the streak 5 might not be able to supply the minimum res....
and AMEN to "I wont buy a smaller screened phone"

DJ_Steve wrote on twitter that he had to set DPI to 80 on Dell Streak 5 to make google apps work in Honeycomb. Streak has default 160, so you can imagine how small everything was
However, I heard that Honeycomb 3.2 should support smaller tablets, so I guess we just have to wait for HC 3.2
And another thing - does somebody now if HC is supporting phone functions at all (call, messages etc.)? I hope that I will be able to make calls with my HoneyStreak

Count me in. 30$, more if it is working well!

Isn't this a bit tacky to say the least? You give what you can most of developers could charge us from the get go and don’t. Plus a bounty for something that does not exist is useless anyways.
GB, HC, etc are dependent on propriety software that Dell is not authorized to release (Dell recently removed GB from their open source web page). Are there ways around it, sure, but a couple hundred bucks for someone to sit down with a blank screen and write the audio code is not going to do it. Have supervised projects that require specialized code to be written; 1. Does not happen overnight 2. More than one writes the code for minimum 8 hours a day for weeks on end. 3. More errors than successes 4. Alpha’s can and will brick your device 5. Beta’s can go through multiple iterations (just think Windows, which version ever came out without constantly needing patches) 6. Just when you think you have it right a life event happens to your key developer. 7. When you release it, people still piss and moan it is not right/what they wanted/what they expected and demand their money back. 8. Could go on, but you get the gist of my discussion.
In closing for this to ever become reality, will require complete HC Alpha (or better) for the Streak 5 from Dell as the start point. Am I crushing dreams, no, just telling you how it is.

Damn audio drivers, if we at least know who is the owner of them.
I see, that HC 3.2 is out and there is support for 7-inch displays (maybe usable on Streak?) and support for Qualcomm chips... maybe it can be ported?

Is there even code for honeycomb that would work on arm?
most of whats been hacked together by steve for s5 is from the sdk, emulator images..
there is no phone support in HC
rather than a silly fund, why not spend the time investigating how to do this for your selves, its android the information is out there for you to find and read..

To tell the truth, I am thinking about it, I have some spare time right now and I just want to try it. But I am not sure if it is even possible or if there is some insolvable problem like with porting MIUI/CM roms (no audio drivers from Dell).

It's threads like this that make you wonder what Dell is thinking. Even with all their screwups, if they got on the stick and provided decent support for this phone they could sell a ton of them. As it is, with this as an example, who would ever buy another Dell phone? I'll nurse this one along simply for the screen real estate and because I love the Google freebies, but I won't ever buy another of their phones.

Revin said:
I see, that HC 3.2 is out and there is support for 7-inch displays (maybe usable on Streak?) and support for Qualcomm chips...
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I didnt know that they now support 7inch... now I am just more sad 'n anoyed
argh

Splashtop THD just dropped in the Market -- Tegra 3 only. :(

Crossposting from Transformer Prime General, so that people aren't shocked when they can't download it for their TF101. ::sigh::
Blog post here, Market link here. $6.99.
Lucky Tegra 3 users.

tim.tahtinen said:
Crossposting from Transformer Prime General, so that people aren't shocked when they can't download it for their TF101. ::sigh::
Blog post here, Market link here. $6.99.
Lucky Tegra 3 users.
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Booooooooooooooo that sucks. Maybe we can use an another app
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That's fantastic. A remote desktop client requiring 5 cores.
Here I thought my 1-core 1GB "AD-based VPN+remote desktop client" VMware image was earthshatteringly inefficient, but I guess someone was able to one-up me on that.
I remember back in the days when we used to create thin clients out of obsolete 386 and 486's by making them boot linux and run rdesktop on boot. You could do that with 16MB of ram and a 16Mhz CPU.
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
This is hilarious.

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That's fantastic. A remote desktop client requiring 5 cores.
Here I thought my 1-core 1GB "AD-based VPN+remote desktop client" VMware image was earthshatteringly inefficient, but I guess someone was able to one-up me on that.
I remember back in the days when we used to create thin clients out of obsolete 386 and 486's by making them boot linux and run rdesktop on boot. You could do that with 16MB of ram and a 16Mhz CPU.
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
This is hilarious.
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You can still use the regular version of Splashtop for remote desktop.
It's just that THD is designed to be able to do things that require higher processing power.
I am actually happy to see this because it means I will have better experience when/if I get a tegra 3 tablet.
However, I am still skeptical of the praticality of it because it will require even greater Internet bandwidth and stability on the receiving device for more advanced content streaming. Starbucks wifi won't be adequate, no way. You will need at least 3G quality connection.

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You can still use the regular version of Splashtop for remote desktop.
It's just that THD is designed to be able to do things that require higher processing power.
I am actually happy to see this because it means I will have better experience when/if I get a tegra 3 tablet.
However, I am still skeptical of the praticality of it because it will require even greater Internet bandwidth and stability on the receiving device for more advanced content streaming. Starbucks wifi won't be adequate, no way. You will need at least 3G quality connection.
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im perfectly fine with them making a higher end version of Splashtop, but is our version made for tegra 2? I ran it and it was not a good experience for me
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I use Splashtop remote to access my desktop from Afghanistan, but since going to ICS it opens, and tries to connect to my desktop but once it does the app just closes. Still works on my HTC Thunderbolt, but no dice on my TF101.
Any suggestions?

mbreezy said:
I use Splashtop remote to access my desktop from Afghanistan, but since going to ICS it opens, and tries to connect to my desktop but once it does the app just closes. Still works on my HTC Thunderbolt, but no dice on my TF101.
Any suggestions?
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u should try to delete all data in the app from settings, then uninstall, reboot and reinstall, hopefully that will solve the problem
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josteink said:
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
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More likely it use native components that they've hacked together and don't want to back port to Tegra 2, or maybe nVidia only gave way for Tegra 3. I'm not sure what tools they have for developers.
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Spidey01 said:
More likely it use native components that they've hacked together and don't want to back port to Tegra 2, or maybe nVidia only gave way for Tegra 3. I'm not sure what tools they have for developers.
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.... I hope really Nvidia diden't do that, some games are already tegra3 exclusive. With gamelofts tf101 freeze out (nobody knows why) its like we have a foreveralone unit among other android units (which already have less apps then ios)
sorry for my *****ing, but asus needs to put some demands on developers
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anarox said:
.... I hope really Nvidia diden't do that, some games are already tegra3 exclusive. With gamelofts tf101 freeze out (nobody knows why) its like we have a foreveralone unit among other android units (which already have less apps then ios)
sorry for my *****ing, but asus needs to put some demands on developers. Apple consumers stupidty made corporations think we will buy anything because of some apps exclusivity (siri big lol)
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What's bad about some games being tegra 3 exclusive? Technology moves on, man. Also, companies want to make money.
It's just like how older CPUs and GPUs can't handle some of the new computer games.

horndroid said:
What's bad about some games being tegra 3 exclusive? Technology moves on, man. Also, companies want to make money.
It's just like how older CPUs and GPUs can't handle some of the new computer games.
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?

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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Our 701s(use mine as freenas) arent expected to hang with the atom processor that soon followed in newer netbooks can do either. Nothing out of the ordinary. It feels old because we have to constantly hear about the latest and greatest gadgets and toys all the damn time now lol. Apparently their marketing strategy is working on us. I just fire up shadowgun to remind myself that this old girl ain't so bad

ssciberras said:
Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Developers are free to do what they want. If they want to make a program that requires stronger processing unit than tegra 2, so be it. You are in no position to complain. No one is forcing you to use their program.

horndroid said:
Developers are free to do what they want. If they want to make a program that requires stronger processing unit than tegra 2, so be it. You are in no position to complain. No one is forcing you to use their program.
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No you are correct on that, but that isnt the point, with PCs a good one built for gaming can last up to 4 years playing stuff really well (maybe longer now that most PC games are ported from consoles), Tegra 2 tablets havent even been out a year really and now they are on Tegra 3 trying to essentially skip over Tegra 2 devices, if a game can be designed for Tegra 3 it should be available in a Tegra 2 version with some dumbed down graphics, I dont see how this would be so hard, plus the number of people actually using Tegra 3 tablets is pretty small as Asus is really the only one that has one out there with the Prime.
Why would these developers limit their potential user/buyer base so much? I hate to say it (and I love my android phone and tablet) but Google and the Android market are so fragmented its crazy, no wonder top apps come out on IOS first and quite a lot stay exclusive, one OS to worry about and the same specs across the millions of users that own one, the Ipad has pretty much become the console of the tablet world and Android Tablets are the PCs
As far as Splashtop goes, I paid for the Splashtop HD version because it was so much nicer than the regular version, it works fantastic with my Transformer, so I'm not sure why anyone is upset that there is a version that takes advantage of what the Tegra 3 can do, there is already a great HD version for Tegra 2 out there, which is what I was talking about at the top of my post

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