Crossposting from Transformer Prime General, so that people aren't shocked when they can't download it for their TF101. ::sigh::
Blog post here, Market link here. $6.99.
Lucky Tegra 3 users.
tim.tahtinen said:
Crossposting from Transformer Prime General, so that people aren't shocked when they can't download it for their TF101. ::sigh::
Blog post here, Market link here. $6.99.
Lucky Tegra 3 users.
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Booooooooooooooo that sucks. Maybe we can use an another app
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That's fantastic. A remote desktop client requiring 5 cores.
Here I thought my 1-core 1GB "AD-based VPN+remote desktop client" VMware image was earthshatteringly inefficient, but I guess someone was able to one-up me on that.
I remember back in the days when we used to create thin clients out of obsolete 386 and 486's by making them boot linux and run rdesktop on boot. You could do that with 16MB of ram and a 16Mhz CPU.
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
This is hilarious.
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That's fantastic. A remote desktop client requiring 5 cores.
Here I thought my 1-core 1GB "AD-based VPN+remote desktop client" VMware image was earthshatteringly inefficient, but I guess someone was able to one-up me on that.
I remember back in the days when we used to create thin clients out of obsolete 386 and 486's by making them boot linux and run rdesktop on boot. You could do that with 16MB of ram and a 16Mhz CPU.
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
This is hilarious.
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You can still use the regular version of Splashtop for remote desktop.
It's just that THD is designed to be able to do things that require higher processing power.
I am actually happy to see this because it means I will have better experience when/if I get a tegra 3 tablet.
However, I am still skeptical of the praticality of it because it will require even greater Internet bandwidth and stability on the receiving device for more advanced content streaming. Starbucks wifi won't be adequate, no way. You will need at least 3G quality connection.
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You can still use the regular version of Splashtop for remote desktop.
It's just that THD is designed to be able to do things that require higher processing power.
I am actually happy to see this because it means I will have better experience when/if I get a tegra 3 tablet.
However, I am still skeptical of the praticality of it because it will require even greater Internet bandwidth and stability on the receiving device for more advanced content streaming. Starbucks wifi won't be adequate, no way. You will need at least 3G quality connection.
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im perfectly fine with them making a higher end version of Splashtop, but is our version made for tegra 2? I ran it and it was not a good experience for me
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I use Splashtop remote to access my desktop from Afghanistan, but since going to ICS it opens, and tries to connect to my desktop but once it does the app just closes. Still works on my HTC Thunderbolt, but no dice on my TF101.
Any suggestions?
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I use Splashtop remote to access my desktop from Afghanistan, but since going to ICS it opens, and tries to connect to my desktop but once it does the app just closes. Still works on my HTC Thunderbolt, but no dice on my TF101.
Any suggestions?
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u should try to delete all data in the app from settings, then uninstall, reboot and reinstall, hopefully that will solve the problem
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Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
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More likely it use native components that they've hacked together and don't want to back port to Tegra 2, or maybe nVidia only gave way for Tegra 3. I'm not sure what tools they have for developers.
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More likely it use native components that they've hacked together and don't want to back port to Tegra 2, or maybe nVidia only gave way for Tegra 3. I'm not sure what tools they have for developers.
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.... I hope really Nvidia diden't do that, some games are already tegra3 exclusive. With gamelofts tf101 freeze out (nobody knows why) its like we have a foreveralone unit among other android units (which already have less apps then ios)
sorry for my *****ing, but asus needs to put some demands on developers
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.... I hope really Nvidia diden't do that, some games are already tegra3 exclusive. With gamelofts tf101 freeze out (nobody knows why) its like we have a foreveralone unit among other android units (which already have less apps then ios)
sorry for my *****ing, but asus needs to put some demands on developers. Apple consumers stupidty made corporations think we will buy anything because of some apps exclusivity (siri big lol)
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What's bad about some games being tegra 3 exclusive? Technology moves on, man. Also, companies want to make money.
It's just like how older CPUs and GPUs can't handle some of the new computer games.
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What's bad about some games being tegra 3 exclusive? Technology moves on, man. Also, companies want to make money.
It's just like how older CPUs and GPUs can't handle some of the new computer games.
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Our 701s(use mine as freenas) arent expected to hang with the atom processor that soon followed in newer netbooks can do either. Nothing out of the ordinary. It feels old because we have to constantly hear about the latest and greatest gadgets and toys all the damn time now lol. Apparently their marketing strategy is working on us. I just fire up shadowgun to remind myself that this old girl ain't so bad
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Developers are free to do what they want. If they want to make a program that requires stronger processing unit than tegra 2, so be it. You are in no position to complain. No one is forcing you to use their program.
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Developers are free to do what they want. If they want to make a program that requires stronger processing unit than tegra 2, so be it. You are in no position to complain. No one is forcing you to use their program.
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No you are correct on that, but that isnt the point, with PCs a good one built for gaming can last up to 4 years playing stuff really well (maybe longer now that most PC games are ported from consoles), Tegra 2 tablets havent even been out a year really and now they are on Tegra 3 trying to essentially skip over Tegra 2 devices, if a game can be designed for Tegra 3 it should be available in a Tegra 2 version with some dumbed down graphics, I dont see how this would be so hard, plus the number of people actually using Tegra 3 tablets is pretty small as Asus is really the only one that has one out there with the Prime.
Why would these developers limit their potential user/buyer base so much? I hate to say it (and I love my android phone and tablet) but Google and the Android market are so fragmented its crazy, no wonder top apps come out on IOS first and quite a lot stay exclusive, one OS to worry about and the same specs across the millions of users that own one, the Ipad has pretty much become the console of the tablet world and Android Tablets are the PCs
As far as Splashtop goes, I paid for the Splashtop HD version because it was so much nicer than the regular version, it works fantastic with my Transformer, so I'm not sure why anyone is upset that there is a version that takes advantage of what the Tegra 3 can do, there is already a great HD version for Tegra 2 out there, which is what I was talking about at the top of my post
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Related
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-dock-150-available-first-at-best-buy
Cheaper than i thought.
wow. that's great news! Much cheaper than I thought..I was expecting it to be in the $200-250 range. Now the only question is how much this phone will cost outright (no contract) .....
was bout to post this
this is really good news
I'm guessing some of the price will be offset by the actual handset price. I hope but doubt it will be the standard pricing that we are use to, probably $100 more I'm guessing.
Price makes sense really considering the laptop dock is just a screen, keyboard and trackpad. No expensive internals to worry about, the Atrix has that covered
since the laptop dock got no cpu or other hardwares.
can i run webtop OS on phone screen? i want my streaming stock quotes or level II quote running on java applets!
much better then i thought
Considering the Atrix has enough power to run Windows 7, if they can get it to THAT in the dock, it'll be perfect. And if it can't? Still worth it, I'll totally buy it. As of this moment, I can't see myself buying anything else.
good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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Well, in case it fails you've still got the Citrix Receiver
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good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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Good point, though two things:
- Windows 8 will run on ARM, and it'd take almost as long to hack and truly pimp out this laptop dock as it will to see a beta of Windows 8
- The rumors of an ARM version of Windows 7 have been gaining steam rapidly lately. Considering netbooks with less power than the Atrix have run it, the possibility is there.
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Well, in case it fails you've still got the Citrix Receiver
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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Citrix, at least what we use at work, suffers from poor latency issues, and a few other bugs. For what we use it for, it really sucks. I'll ask one of our IT guys tomorrow and get some more details. We could be running an old version, or old hardware. When we talked about expansion, we were told point blank that we couldn't do it with Citrix. And that was some pretty simple stuff we wanted...
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I'd be really happy, If I could install Android Honeycomb and use it in Webtop mode (in Laptop Dock). Maybe it'd need synchronization between apllications from Atrix Android and Webtop mode Android. It'd be pretty, pretty cool.
SoberGuy said:
Citrix, at least what we use at work, suffers from poor latency issues, and a few other bugs. For what we use it for, it really sucks. I'll ask one of our IT guys tomorrow and get some more details. We could be running an old version, or old hardware.
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Strange, it seems to work well for this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WzeIGZKW_Y#t=1m07s
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I'd be really happy, If I could install Android Honeycomb and use it in Webtop mode (in Laptop Dock). Maybe it'd need synchronization between apllications from Atrix Android and Webtop mode Android. It'd be pretty, pretty cool.
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Even more logical would be to have the device simply be running Honeycomb, and use the new Honeycomb UI when attached to a large screen, and the standard phone UI for the small screen. Then there wouldn't even need to be any synchronization, it would all just be android apps. But you would maybe need to tweak the Honeycomb UI to be workable for mouse/keyboard and/or the IR remote instead of multitouch; that might be why Motorola didn't wait for Honeycomb and go for that approach.
Rastor, thanks for that! We're probably on a very old version then lol. Nothing we oo with Citrix is anywhere near that fast. And it's nothing to do with connection speed, because our connection is top of the line. I'm quite impressed after that video. Thanks!
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Glad to see a reasonable price. Looking like a great device.
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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It's really good software that costs an arm and a leg. Over $900 dollars for the licenses, and I think that's just 5 licenses. :/
I wish there was an equally as good alternative for windows, for significantly cheaper.
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I have to apologize. I talked to a couple IT guys yesterday, and they told me our issue with Citrix was old hardware. We updated those servers not too long ago, and I got to play with it (usually not something I have to do). Looks to me like it will work quite well for remote access. My apologies for the bad information.
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- The rumors of an ARM version of Windows 7 have been gaining steam rapidly lately. Considering netbooks with less power than the Atrix have run it, the possibility is there..
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If you are referring to Atom netbooks those are actually more powerful than Tegra 2 despite being single core.
Even if Microsoft ports Windows 7 to ARM next to no programs will even run on it.
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It's really good software that costs an arm and a leg. Over $900 dollars for the licenses, and I think that's just 5 licenses. :/
I wish there was an equally as good alternative for windows, for significantly cheaper.
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google "Remote Desktop Services"
Today, the death of MOBILE Flash was announced.
This a major killer app gone from the Android arsenal.
NOTE that Flash continues to develop on the Desktop environment.
Gone also is a major demander of CPU cycles.
I think this means two things:
1. (Less) Need for High power CPUs on Android platform
2. The beginning a two tier web experience. One for Desktops, one for mobile.
Which means we'll be as restricted from a desktop web experience as Apple Mobile products, AND WITHOUT the market sway of APPLE that mitigates and forces some websites to develop specifically for Apple products (ie: APP version of website).
I won't say this is the death of Android as a platform, but it could be a major blow.
Given this I have more reason to buy Windows 8 tablet next instead of Android.
There will always be some websites (ie: Megavideo or anime websites) that only develop for Desktop in mind, they don't care or have the resources to develop a HTML5 / APP for every platform out there.
And EVEN if they were to develop an APP, you know it'll be for Apple platform.
So Android is disadvantaged.
It's not as bad as you think.
- Adobe will continue to provide critical updates to existing Flash versions on Android
- It will potentially hand over development to third-parties
- Adobe AIR and HTML5 work fine on Android
Yes, it will score a dent on the platform but it is by no means that Flash will suddenly be pulled out of the Market or something. Let's just hope Adobe will release the Flash 11 with better Stage3D before it closes further development.
I just wish they would give the desktop version the axe as well, but hey, I'm being more pred'd than prac' there
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i think it all depends on pricing and preference. I see windows phone out now but android phones are still beating them. so what makes you think that windows will have a bigger effect in the tablet market?
to me the pricing makes a big difference. i think the avarage joe doesn't care if they are getting windows, apple, android just how much it costs. if cost was not an option, they would probably go apple then windows/android just because of name recognition. Although I do think they would lean more towards android as a 2nd option over windows since that is probably what they have on their phone.
Youre overreacting, adobe will continue to fix bugs in flash. Meaning if quad core processors give errors associated with flash they will probably be fixed.
And the discontinue will hopefully bring more developers to adobe-AIR, so it will be way easier to code apps for different platforms.
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I personally wish they'd stop using Adobe entirely and use web standards, not some proprietary crap.
I really don't think the ability to run Flash has been such a huge competitive advantage for Android, at least not among the general public. Apple's still doing fine without it, and certainly on tablets Flash hasn't made a material difference.
It'll remain variety and price that keeps Android successful. And the idea that the Tegra 3's performance is somehow irrelevant because Flash will be going away someday seems a bit strange to me. I can think of many things a tablet (or phone) can do that benefit from better performance other than Flash.
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I really don't think the ability to run Flash has been such a huge competitive advantage for Android, at least not among the general public. Apple's still doing fine without it, and certainly on tablets Flatsh hasn't made a material difference.
It'll remain variety and price that keeps Android successful. And the idea that the Tegra 3's performance is somehow irrelevant because Flash will be going away someday seems a bit strange to me. I can think of many things a tablet (or phone) can do that benefit from better performance other than Flash.
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Exactly. I've never thought of Flash as anything killer on Android. I very much detest it instead, slowing things down with all the flash ads.
Botloos said:
Youre overreacting, adobe will continue to fix bugs in flash. Meaning if quad core processors give errors associated with flash they will probably be fixed.
And the discontinue will hopefully bring more developers to adobe-AIR, so it will be way easier to code apps for different platforms.
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Continue to fix bugs of the current version of Flash. But what happens when they release Flash 12 for the desktop, and all the websites migrate over to it?
Your videos on these website won't launch.
The stated also that they wont be adding support for newer hardware
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Apple's still doing fine without it, and certainly on tablets Flash hasn't made a material difference.
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Apple will do well without Flash because they're APPLE. They have APP versions of the websites that use flash because of their persuasive market share.
WE DON'T
The sky is falling.
Lawliet said:
Exactly. I've never thought of Flash as anything killer on Android. I very much detest it instead, slowing things down with all the flash ads.
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Flash isn't just for ads, JPEGs aren't just for porn.
Flash died when adobe bought macromedia. Since then flash had got so bloated and slow; lags almost every browser with memory leaks. I would still rather have the ability to watch flash content than not have it, however.
On the other hand, it does pave the way for developers to just screw flash completely.
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What does flash have to do with quad cores?
Nothing of course.
And anyways, tegra 3 manages it's own core states, software is not involved.
And flash won't disappear on short term.. security updates will be released and source will be managed by other parties (google anyone)
Take it easy @ thread starter
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Dont be that pessimistic about flash. It has been a very problematic technology which required a huge amount of resource even from devices based on Atom cpu. I might just consider it as good news because websites would have to adapt their websites to use HTML5 which runs much smoother. It might just become the step which would take the world for a new standard which would replace the problematic flash technology. And for everybody that becomes concerned about websites that would not migrate their site to mobile devices playable technology i am pretty sure that it wont happen because that mobile devices market share is becoming much more significant from they to day
And who cares about flash anyways.. at this point its still handy every now and then, but this will change soon....
Flash is being used less and less and has nothing to do with desktop vs. Mobile ( ok only if you own an ipad lol)
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And for everybody that becomes concerned about websites that would not migrate their site to mobile devices playable technology i am pretty sure that it wont happen because that mobile devices market share is becoming much more significant from they to day
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no one says websites wont migrate to mobile platform. The problem is, when they do, it's usually in the form of APPS not standard webpage that works on all platforms. (many tech commentators have criticized this trend)
Most websites with mobile versions have only made one for Apple in form of an APP.
Given the market share of Android vs Apple, it doesn't take a genius to figure out which mobile platform websites will choose.
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What does flash have to do with quad cores?
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To that all I can do is remember my first laptop and it's unicore Sempron. Between Mozilla Firefox and Adobe Flash, a few hours of streaming music (don't even MENTION video!!!), my laptop would be hot. In fact on more than one occasion it went so far as to overheat. If I tried to compile projects and use Flash, I would get to sit and watch the temp gauge climb towards Halt & Catch Fire.
I'm sure some where in between a quad core and a companion CPU, they can make the TF P skip the HCF part .
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Could this lead to a situation that the TF1 with the lastest version of flash which will have some tweaks for tegra 2 might end up running flash better than the Prime as Adobe wont officially support the hardware?
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do you think Windows 8 RT (ARM) could ever be ported successfully to the transformer, or even the prime or some other tablet?
i know it's not open source and that makes a HUUGE difference. so, what are the chances?
obviously it's a bit early to tell for sure, but how likely do you think?
I doubt it since it gonna come preinstalled with hardware.
http://www.techspot.com/news/48217-windows-8-editions-revealed-two-retail-one-for-arm-one-for-enterprise.html
Even if you were able to copy it to another tablet you would not be able to update it. At least legally.
Our only hope is that ms would sell it alone.
Im wondering how restricted it will be because if it runs like standard windows someone using it on a tablet could run a backup and push out an image that people on android could use.
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I very much doubt it as the WinRT code won't be open sourced so it would have to be one hell of a reverse engineering job to get it ported.
It would be like trying to get iOS ported to our TFs
I just hope splashtop or some other RDP software will have the ability to automaticly turn on all touch-features in win8 when you connect from your tablet.
Would make it a hell a lot easier to remote control your PC without keyboard and mouse.
If someone can figure out how to dump it then it is possible.
This is going back a few years & obviously Win8 whole different animal from WM6.5. I remember when it was announced that the beloved Dell Axim x51 was not going to be updated to WM6.5. Some of the devs did figure out how to make it happen. Going that route you do run into a whole host of legal issues.
In not sure why you would want to downgrade?
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Possible, but what's the point? Windows 8 RT isn't proper Windows, it's not get any apps, and has that horrible Metro user interface.
I love the metro interface. It is just so simple and smart. I would also love to use Windows 8 with a touchscreen to enable all the touch features.
Also, I think of it this way... As some person said on this thread, it is not actually Windows 8, cause you cant get out of metro. And it is a really big issue. But I mean, it is like installing Linux on your TF. You would just install it, check it out for a little while, and then switch back for android. I wouldn't actually use Linux on the Transformer. On Linux you wouldn't actually use Word or Excel on your TF. And if you had windows, same thing... you probably wouldn't use Photoshop or After Effects because you just don't need to. If you are on a mobile device, obviously the OS has to be limited only on the features that are useful on a mobile device. Photoshop would burn your TF most probably, so I don't really see the use of using the classic Windows desktop with a Transformer.
P.S. The Metro UI freaking ROCKS!
I'm going to counter and say I can't stand metro ui. At all. If I got win8 (In love with 7 atm) I'd instantly switch to desktop mode and never look at metro again.
I really hope they release a generic arm version, I want windows on my tab. It'd allow me to do so much graphically and musically, but for now,
Ubuntu xD
Windows 8 has high hardware requirement, atleast prime is needed I think for it to work
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Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.
Thing O Doom said:
Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.
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the ram for this device is too low even for modified android and for browsing sites and watching flash video.
is ram not like the cheapest component?
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I made a post in another thread stating why I think it's not going to happen.
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I don't anticipate it being possible to run Win8 on the tf101.
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It's unlikely that Windows 8 ARM will be available except preinstalled on devices; unlike PCs, the installation would be different for and specific to each device. So if we assume that is the case;
Windows 8 will probably come on a device with only the drivers necessary for that specific device. You could cite space constraints on that. Why would drivers for any other device be included?
Secondly, building a kernel specifically for the transformer is not going to happen. Why? The Windows kernel is not open source. obviously current kernels we have won't help, because they are Linux.
That last point is probably the biggest reason why we won't see it happening. Not having the source severely limits what can be done.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for this.
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Windows 8 on ARM is more about breaking away from the limitations Intel has in the mobile space. It has nothing to do with compatibility. Microsoft doesn't want to lose any more licenses of Windows to Apple with the iPad (MS makes more money on every Android phone than on Windows Phone).
ARM won't run the desktop. No one cares about Windows if they can't run their old apps. It's DOA.
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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"never say never"
look at the HTC HD2, a device that was shipped with WinMo 6.1, now it can run Windows Phone 7.5, Android (ICS included), Ubuntu, booting from NAND (with 2 different boot loaders written from scratch), with nearly full hardware support for everything.
When Asus releases WinRT tablets, they will reuse some of the hardware they use in Android tablets, so they will have the correct code compiled, and hackers will backport it to other tablets...
CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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uhm wtf? xbox best selling game console worldwide? about 20 million kinects sold?
anyway... for win 8 I say we'll see and we'll know then.
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Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!
jadesse said:
Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!
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Comon man we all know microsoft copied ipads angry birds when made xbox360!!
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This week, Microsoft will unveil Windows 8 RT on their Surface while other vendors will roll their tablets with it.
Since none of us has Windows 8 RT tablet yet and no one has started tinkering inside those tablets (hardware & software in the tablet), I was wondering about something:
Basically if we take a TF300 tablet and compare it to Asus's other Windows 8 RT tablets, they are exactly the same in terms of hardware. Tegra 3, Nand flash, etc. In terms of storage, I'm sure Microsoft doesn't use ext2/3/4 partitions, they probably use their own NTFS or Fat32 or whatever.
In terms if booting the device, Android tablets (which are based on Tegra 3 at least) use whatever nVidia gives them to boot the system, recovery, APX etc. In the Windows tablets they use UEFI with secure boot.
My question: based on public info which we know, how hard would it be to make Windows 8 run on TF300? how hard would it be to install UEFI on the TF300? (IIRC it's not a special chip, it's just a piece of software in the firmware, and as androidroot.mobi showed - you can write on the firmware whatever you want).
Opinions?
wrong section, and even if it wasnt, thats pirating windows
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hetzbh said:
My question: based on public info which we know, how hard would it be to make Windows 8 run on TF300? how hard would it be to install UEFI on the TF300? (IIRC it's not a special chip, it's just a piece of software in the firmware, and as androidroot.mobi showed - you can write on the firmware whatever you want).
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windows rt is sold only preinstalled, you cant buy it separatedly, you cant install it on something else than the tablet it came with.
and obviously you cant get the sources to thinker with.
pendragon11 said:
wrong section, and even if it wasnt, thats pirating windows
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Your reply doesn't make sense. What excatly do you mean by pirating windows? If you're talking about hacking, then isn't that what we all do?
PS. It's just like sex, its always better if its free.
pretty sure you don't pay for windows RT
I could be wrong though...
Plus, I don't quite know for sure how an android tablet would be compatible with the windows RT, I am sure there are some stupid things they added to make it so it wouldn't work out. It always seems to be out of our favor.
babymatteo said:
Your reply doesn't make sense. What excatly do you mean by pirating windows? If you're talking about hacking, then isn't that what we all do?
PS. It's just like sex, its always better if its free.
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as you cant buy it, the only way you can get it is by pirating it from another tablet.
read the forum rules, warez is not accepted on this forum.
babymatteo said:
Your reply doesn't make sense. What excatly do you mean by pirating windows? If you're talking about hacking, then isn't that what we all do?
PS. It's just like sex, its always better if its free.
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difference is that android is open source and the source code is shared in order to facilitate user development
windows and apple are closed source, and not allowed to pirate
Comon guys, don't be such a moderator wannabe ... the guy is just wondering if it's possible to port W8 RT to a TF300. He is not talking of asking about how to hack a W* RT device.
For example, if you bought yourself a W8 RT tablet and you want to try to extract the software and load it in into your OWN TF300 for personal use ... i can't see the real problem here.
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Comon guys, don't be such a moderator wannabe ... the guy is just wondering if it's possible to port W8 RT to a TF300. He is not talking of asking about how to hack a W* RT device.
For example, if you bought yourself a W8 RT tablet and you want to try to extract the software and load it in into your OWN TF300 for personal use ... i can't see the real problem here.
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and, as we said, the answer is no, you cant, as microsoft wont sell you a copy.
Forget the sake of this discussion, forget about piracy. On many countries it's totally legit to grab a software from one of your machines and put it on another, as long as you purchased the software and as long as you don't give it to anyone else. For example: Microsoft allows you to install office with a single license on 2 or more computers, as long as only one of them is running the software at the same time.
How do you think all those emulators has began being developed? people started to talk if it's possible to run X application on Y platform, and if not, why?
Thats why I opened this thread - theory speaking, nothing more.
hetzbh said:
Forget the sake of this discussion, forget about piracy. On many countries it's totally legit to grab a software from one of your machines and put it on another, as long as you purchased the software and as long as you don't give it to anyone else. For example: Microsoft allows you to install office with a single license on 2 or more computers, as long as only one of them is running the software at the same time.
How do you think all those emulators has began being developed? people started to talk if it's possible to run X application on Y platform, and if not, why?
Thats why I opened this thread - theory speaking, nothing more.
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You have to be patient eventually it might be done. If i can run apples osx on my hp touch smart why wouldnt this be possible. but honestly id rather just buy the surface. if it is really a pc in tablet skin. Cuz honestly. I hate mobole browsers and all that crap. . Inever play games on my tablet only my son. All i do is watch movies and surf online. .sell tf300 buy surface.
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Like I see it you'd need root or sth. on a Surface or other Win8 Pad, get the system of it with kernel etc., make it compatible with Tf300 and its bootloader and then get the wright wifi drivers etc. compatible - seems like a long work, but as I know from other portings not impossible!
I am sure some very clever people will give it a go sometime soon.
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diamantericos said:
You have to be patient eventually it might be done. If i can run apples osx on my hp touch smart why wouldnt this be possible. but honestly id rather just buy the surface. if it is really a pc in tablet skin. Cuz honestly. I hate mobole browsers and all that crap. . Inever play games on my tablet only my son. All i do is watch movies and surf online. .sell tf300 buy surface.
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No Windows RT is a dumbed down version of Windows 8 with just the modern UI and a so called "desktop" for certain apps and it will not run any legacy windows applications. The RT version in my opinion is useless at least for the time being, because it need devs to make good content just like iOS and Android and that will take a few years. Just 2-3 years ago android was playing catch up to iOS, Windows RT will be the same.
The Intel based Surface i see great potentials for and that will be revolutionary to actually have the "PC in a tablet skin". With that one can run all software you have on a computer plus the great apps developers will make.
If you are thinking the Windows RT Surface will be any different then a Android tablet you are mistaken, sure there are few differences it will still use "apps" just like any other Android tablet and you won't be able to run and Windows games on it if that is what your thinking. What you want is the Intel based Surface.
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You never know, devs have ported Android to Windows Mobile phones so there maybe a way to get Window on the TF300. If a Dev has his/her mind set anything can be done.
I would like to just point out that the windows 8 forum is titled windows 8 development and hacking.... This is basically the definition of what we do.
In my opinion, windows 8 RT is free with the hardware that you purchase, seeing as you cannot buy the software, instead it is given to you. I see nothing wrong with trying to get windows 8 RT on our tablets. It's not like Microsoft could possibly be pissed off with other people practically advertising their sh*t, because you know as soon as they get it working, they're gonna tell all their buddies who are gonna want a windows 8 tablet, and if they can't do the porting, they'll probably go for a windows 8 tablet.... like possibly the slate.
My 2 cents have been given.
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burt_ie said:
I am sure some very clever people will give it a go sometime soon.
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it would appear it's been done! youtube.com/watch?v=Q0uWypmOIgs
ronotron said:
it would appear it's been done! youtube.com/watch?v=Q0uWypmOIgs
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Looks like a fake to me.....running splashtop?. you can clearly see the android notification bar towards the end of the video.
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Yup definitely running splashtop, you can also see the small keyboard button in the lower right hand corner.
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You can see the Android Taskbar... so remote desktop.
But also, what will be the purpose of installing Windows 8 RT on and Android device?
We wanted a different platform...
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Yup definitely running splashtop, you can also see the small keyboard button in the lower right hand corner.
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This thread should be closed and buried deep, so that no one will ever find this abomination. Let us never speak again of porting Microsoft's squared horror to the TF300T.
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Australian-based firm, Intermatrix, have announced the first Ubuntu Tablet hardware, due to start shipping in October 2013 (http://www.ubuntutablet.com.au).
A 7-inch tablet has only been announced at the moment; plans to produce a 10-inch tablet are under way.
Specs are similar to what Canonical are currently developing/targeting their 7-inch model on: 1.5GHz Quad-Core Cortex A9, 1GB RAM.
That was rather quick!.. I wanna see System76 do a tablet tho.
given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
rekrapg said:
given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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Yeah, 2GB would be nice.
We'd actually originally intended to release the 7-inch tablet with 2GB RAM, but unfortunately, our hardware guys reckon the chipset won't take a single 2GB chip (and there's no room for a second one!). As far as we can tell, at the moment, there's no 7-inch tablets on the market with 2GB RAM (yet).
RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
Awesome
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RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
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I didn't know that, I don't like that and I don't get WHY?! If a 7'' tablet's specs are enough to run a full desktop OS when docked, why won't they allow it? :/ Does anyone know WHY?
Great Sound
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
adeelhassan said:
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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*Sigh*... Yes, yes it will....
Sounds wicked! :laugh:
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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Ubuntu has been ported to arm for several years now.