Hi all,
I have searched and searched for this around many forums including this one and found nothing to help me, so finally logged a call with Orange Premier, who after about 3 weeks of calls back and forth finally told me that after speaking with tech support that they are aware of an issue affecting the HTC Touch HD and some of their Balckberry's which is that the devices do not download MMS messages!
So if you have this problem, I suggest pestering Orange until they release a fix of some sort, at the moment they have no fix but are apparently working on it!
Update:
Orange finally suggested registering the SIM card which came with the new Touch HD as I should have registered it anyway so they know what phone I have and this seems to have fixed it - let me know if this works for you!
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D'oh - Spoke too soon!
Seemed to work for while but now no longer works without disconnecting the Orange Internet GPRS connection first, and even then it is hit and miss!
This is really annoying and Orange's stand is basically there is nothing we can do. No way I will be staying with orange when my contract is up, after 14 years of being an Orange customer
Wow - I thought it was just me! Thanks, and please keep us updated.
I have downloaded MMS on Orange UK, but I had to go to the Orange site and find the MMS settings. Once they were done I receved MMS and then noticed I had no internet connection (over gsm). So I went to the Orange site and entered the settings for OrangeInternet - the mobile internet worked again, but now I can't download MMS.
It's the lesser of two evils for me not to have MMS. But would like it back
foaf said:
Wow - I thought it was just me! Thanks, and please keep us updated.
I have downloaded MMS on Orange UK, but I had to go to the Orange site and find the MMS settings. Once they were done I receved MMS and then noticed I had no internet connection (over gsm). So I went to the Orange site and entered the settings for OrangeInternet - the mobile internet worked again, but now I can't download MMS.
It's the lesser of two evils for me not to have MMS. But would like it back
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Can't say I've experienced this problem.
I generally upgrade to a new ROM every week and when phone first starts, connection settings are automatically setup for you.
If you don't want to wait for Orange to release a fix, try using a different ROM and see if this works for you
I have this problem also.
I called up orange and they basically told me that the MMS i was receiving was too big.
The limit apparently is 300k. I tested this by sending from a blackberry and the MMS > 300k didn't download, but the MMS < 300k did download.
Pretty poor that there's a limit on it as some phones don't reaize the content before sending.
I'm missing out on a good few messages because of this
That's interesting Scotia, but the mms's I am recieving are from people with rubbish camera pics so I'm not entirely sure that's the reason - but I will test.
Hey Guys,
Rang Orange again today as I am getting really annyoed with this, I am planning a wedding atm and the missus is constantly sending me MMS of photos she has taken for colours of bridesmaids dresses and flowers etc.....not that I am really interested but I pretend I am!!!
Anyway, the outcome of this latest call was that I was told to ring HTC direct and they sent me HTC's phone number.....I rang HTC, they told me that they could come and collect my phone run diagnistics on it and let me know if it was an issue, however they would not provide a replacement and the whole process would take a couple of weeks!
I said this was not acceptable and was there not a fix for it, were they even awar of it? The answer was that it was an orange branded phone and they don't issue ROM updates that orange do and to call them!
I called orange back told them the good news, that it was infact their problem to deal with....with which they said they will go back to technical support!
In the mean time I have done anther hard reset and it seems to have downloaded a message, but then once my poush email etc is setup again it stops downloading MMS again. So I think it is to do with having two connections running at the same time Surely this is not acceptable!
I also asked orange for another phone until they got a fix, told them I wanted either a different brand phone or another HTC model until they had a fix. Apparently the system will not allow this!!!
I know I could flash another ROM, and I would class myself as pretty technical - but I don't see why I should have to do this and also I will then get no support from Orange if I am on a non-standard ROM? Also where to start, there are so many ROMS floating about, which one to choose?!
Anyways, thought I would keep you all posted.
Cheers,
James
james, i have also noticed this and am wioth orange.
It was working fine, then stopped receiving mms, but email worked ok, so i checked online and went through the mms settings, this fixed problem, and was again able to receive mms, but email didnt work - it is a problem with the mms settings and internet settings running at same time.
when you check the connections folder, and manage existing connections - only orange internet is present. if you try to add the mss settigns it says they already exist, and wont let you add them, i think maybe if we try that, but call them a diff name maybe it`ll work, i will give it a go and report back.
t3rm3y - I wonder if you may be onto something there! I don't have time to test atm but let me know what you find out and then I will try it this afternoon
My brother who is on the Three network sends MMS to his girlfriend and she gets it instantly but whenever he sends it to me, i never get it.
Must be a vodafone thing, maybe a HD thing, who knows.
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My brother who is on the Three network sends MMS to his girlfriend and she gets it instantly but whenever he sends it to me, i never get it.
Must be a vodafone thing, maybe a HD thing, who knows.
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According to Orange that is a Vodafone issue, as they started telling me that they knew of a problem sending messages to vodafone, that sometimes a message doesn't get through and other times it is received more than once, but it was a problem with Voda not Orange. That didn't help me as I am trying to send and receive between two Orange handsets which doesn't work!
I also have problem with MMS not downloading
to get them downlonaded I close active sync then disconnect all data connections , then moments later the MMS connection is remade and MMS downloads OK
EyeBees said:
I also have problem with MMS not downloading
to get them downlonaded I close active sync then disconnect all data connections , then moments later the MMS connection is remade and MMS downloads OK
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thats exactly what i have had to do .
close all data sessions , then it receives the mms .
Sorry for the bump but im so glad i found this thread ! Thought it was just me. I've been on the phone to orange about 6 times to sort this out and it still doesn't always work. Any signs of progress from orange ?
Just want to bump this thread again as I'm having the same trouble with Orange, I can only send mms's if I disconnect all currant data connections
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You need to create an Orange MMS profile under connections. I leave mine on "orange internet" but if I receive an MMS change it to "orange MMS" just to download the message, then change it back. Works Ok. The MMS technical helpdesk gave me a walkthrough to set up the MMS settings.
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You need to create an Orange MMS profile under connections. I leave mine on "orange internet" but if I receive an MMS change it to "orange MMS" just to download the message, then change it back. Works Ok. The MMS technical helpdesk gave me a walkthrough to set up the MMS settings.
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Thats more of a work around, similar to closing all data connections mentioned above.
Thing is, the MMS should download without any intervention. So there is a problem that needs fixed.
Orange hit me off with this rubbish when i called them also, only for me to tell them that i already have the Orange MMS profile setup correctly in my phone.
Then they told me that it's bacause the MMS is too big.
But now i have tested large pic sizes by disconnecting all data connections and i can receive the MMS no problem.
Think i'll give them a call tomorrow again and see if there's any chance they can get this sorted.
Just off the phone to Orange.
The guy i spoke to said he had the Touch HD handset and had the same problems.
Told me to do the following :
Start > Programs > Quick GPS > Menu > Options : Untick 'Auto download when data expires'
Start > Programs > RSS Hub > Menu > Options : Auto Update Mode should be set to 'No Auto Update'
Start > Settings > System Tab > Windows Update > Menu > Connections : Untick 'Use my data plan to check for and download updates'
Manila Weather Tab > Menu > Settings : Untick 'Download weather automatically'
Now i know this seems again more of a workaround than an actual fix, but to be honest, i don't think Orange are going to provide a permanant fix for this.
I have tried 3 MMS messages so far and they all have worked with no problems.
I'll keep monitoring it and update if i have anymore issues.
i can download mms and go on internet, but cant send stupid things. tried the mms account on the manage settings tab, but dont help, tried the turning off auto update idea, still no help, its well annoying.!!!
I got my HTC Touch HD on monday and all has been fine and have been getting mms with no problems, out of interest I followed scotia_rfc's work around and discovered that my phone was default set up as he had listed, I didn't have to make any changes etc. Perhaps Orange have twigged to this and are now sending out all new Touch HD's configured this way?
I'm expecting my HD tomorrow, will let you know how mine is set up
Dave
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Your phone is trying to connect to the T-Mobile network to get a GPS fix. You need to change your settings for GPS to the APN settings for your carrirer.
Thanks for the answer.
Which settings you are exactly talking about?
I have already changed the APN for my carrier because I could not connect to 3G. And I use 3G without problems.
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Thanks for the answer.
Which settings you are exactly talking about?
I have already changed the APN for my carrier because I could not connect to 3G. And I use 3G without problems.
I think this is hardware problem. I have read that this restarting after iGo Primo launch is because hd2's mainboard.
there is still hope for some wrong settings
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I am running complete Android on my phone right now so Occam not dig through my settings to tell you where to look an to be honest I got a pretty good memory but not that good lol. But anyway try looking through your GPS settings, you might have to go to Settings>Menu>All Settmings and then you whole see a little satilite icon maybe it is in there. But as I said I can not recall straight from memory the exact location, sorry. From your picture though that has got to be your problem as the epc.t-mobile.com is a to access the T-Mobile network and you need it to access your network. I know you said you changed your APN settings to get the 3G, bit I am thinking you will have to change something for hour GPS as well. Maybe it is where you changed your APN settings, I am not exactly sure. It could not hurt to go and have a look there again just to see if something is still set to the T-Mobile setting.
Never really encountered this problem but mms files won't send. I'm stock rooted and all the correct apn settings are in for Internet and mms. No clue what's wrong. These settings worked on my Samsung Nexus so before!
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jark99 said:
Never really encountered this problem but mms files won't send. I'm stock rooted and all the correct apn settings are in for Internet and mms. No clue what's wrong. These settings worked on my Samsung Nexus so before!
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1) Turn off wifi
2) Send message
3) Wait a bit
4) Turn wifi back on
That solved my problem last night and it's been working fine since (I'm on ST btw). I've heard there's some kind of bug with mms and wifi. I haven't researched the problem too deep so take that with a grain of salt. Hope that helps!
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1) Turn off wifi
2) Send message
3) Wait a bit
4) Turn wifi back on
That solved my problem last night and it's been working fine since (I'm on ST btw). I've heard there's some kind of bug with mms and wifi. I haven't researched the problem too deep so take that with a grain of salt. Hope that helps!
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That didn't work! I flashed a new rom as well, Rasbeanjelly and trinity kernel. Why wont MMS send? this is driving me nuts...never ever had this problem with any phone before :/
I can receive mms but can't send any. On Rogers with rasbean and trinity with lte hack.
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BUMP why the hell won't this work???
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jark99 said:
Never really encountered this problem but mms files won't send. I'm stock rooted and all the correct apn settings are in for Internet and mms. No clue what's wrong. These settings worked on my Samsung Nexus so before!
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I had a problem for a while with T-Mobile where I could receive MMS but they wouldn't send.
To fix this I went into Settings -> Select "More" under Wireless & Networks --> Mobile Networks --> Access Point Names --> Click on the 3 dots and "Reset to Default". Reset phone and problem solved.
Nothing looked different before and after, other than for a week I couldn't send MMS and after restarting I suddenly could.
was having the same issue with my phone through T-Mobile, and I tried what Acuity recommended. So far, all my mms messages have gone through.
Thanks Acuity!
To fix this I went into Settings -> Select "More" under Wireless & Networks --> Mobile Networks --> Access Point Names --> Click on the 3 dots and "Reset to Default". Reset phone and problem solved.
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Worked for me too. Awesome!
I've recetly been having trouble sending any sort of MMS (group message, pics, text with emoji) when I have Wifi turned on. When I have Wifi off they all go through, I've tested this out and it's definitely what's going on. Also, when I go into the APN settings I do have VZWINTERNET selected but MMSC and other ones aren't set. There doesn't seen to be a way to change it. This all started happening after I installed Evolve SMS then uninstalled it.
I have also been told by a few people that they tried calling me but calls won't go through, and I haven't had any missed calls.
So more info, in case this helps.
I installed Evolve SMS but I was having trouble sending MMS...I wouldn't go through the first time but if I hit resend it went through just fine. I was using it for a while but a couple of times I had texts go to the wrong person which is very bad (and good thing there was that MMS bug which didn't let group texts go through the first time because a lot of people would have got something meant for my girlfriend). So I uninstalled it immediately and went back to stock MMS, and this is where I'm now having all these problems.
Anybody have an idea to what's going on? Does it have something to do with my APN settings (or lack of settings) and did installing Evolve SMS have something to do with it?
It's just strange they go through when WIFI is off but nothing when it's on. And my biggest concern is that I'm missing phone calls, which a few have been pretty important.
Any help is appreciated...Thanks!
I have an Amazon Prime XT1625 on H20 wireless (via AT&T networks) and cannot get the MMS to work. Interestingly, it DID work for a day with the phone in the beginning then stopped working.
Originally purchased back in october. Trying to wipe the AMZN bloat and root the phone I soft bricked it. I followed this thread and unbricked it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/soft-bricked-prime-exclusive-xt1625-t3470693/ ). Currently loaded with XT1625-XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139 firmware.
The MMS did work the first day and that was it. For the last 3 months no MMS. I have copied both H20 wireless' official recommended APN settings again and again and also tried using the same APN settings from my previous phone (same sim & service), but none are working to either send or receive. H20 wireless customer service eventually gave up and blamed it on the phone saying because it is not an official AT&T phone it works on different MHz - LOL!
Dialed *#*#4636#*#* and messed around with switching "SET PREFERRED NETWORK TYPE" dropdown, cycling through the LTE options (did not perform reboot between each though). Also tried "turning on sms over IMS", but nothing worked.
What's odd is at one point it did work at one point. I do not know if something happened during loading the firmware after the softbrick or something else.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start? Of course, I'm hoping it's a hidden switch or menu, but I'm open to reloading new firmware as well. In fact, I was looking to upgrade to Nougat but I see that there are only soaps available and no official release yet, so I wanted to post this first.
Thanks!
Have you tried a factory reset? Sounds like after the soft brick you messed up the MMS service.
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I have an Amazon Prime XT1625 on H20 wireless (via AT&T networks) and cannot get the MMS to work. Interestingly, it DID work for a day with the phone in the beginning then stopped working.
Originally purchased back in october. Trying to wipe the AMZN bloat and root the phone I soft bricked it. I followed this thread and unbricked it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/help/soft-bricked-prime-exclusive-xt1625-t3470693/ ). Currently loaded with XT1625-XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139 firmware.
The MMS did work the first day and that was it. For the last 3 months no MMS. I have copied both H20 wireless' official recommended APN settings again and again and also tried using the same APN settings from my previous phone (same sim & service), but none are working to either send or receive. H20 wireless customer service eventually gave up and blamed it on the phone saying because it is not an official AT&T phone it works on different MHz - LOL!
Dialed *#*#4636#*#* and messed around with switching "SET PREFERRED NETWORK TYPE" dropdown, cycling through the LTE options (did not perform reboot between each though). Also tried "turning on sms over IMS", but nothing worked.
What's odd is at one point it did work at one point. I do not know if something happened during loading the firmware after the softbrick or something else.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start? Of course, I'm hoping it's a hidden switch or menu, but I'm open to reloading new firmware as well. In fact, I was looking to upgrade to Nougat but I see that there are only soaps available and no official release yet, so I wanted to post this first.
Thanks!
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Had this issue on both my XT1625 (non Amazon) and my wife's Moto G3. turned out the APN settings were not setup correctly so it was accessing the wrong MMS proxy. AT&T is also who our provider (Consumer Cellular) uses. Check with H2O wireless and find out what your APN settings should be and set them up accordingly.
Make the APN settings match the settings on this page.
https://www.h2owirelessnow.com/mainControl.php?page=dataManualConfig
You also know that MMS probably won't go if you have wifi enabled while sending. Many apps have a T-Mobile setting that disables wifi while sending MMS. For grins, disable wifi then try sending the MMS with just data enabled.
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Tel864 said:
Make the APN settings match the settings on this page.
You also know that MMS probably won't go if you have wifi enabled while sending. Many apps have a T-Mobile setting that disables wifi while sending MMS. For grins, disable wifi then try sending the MMS with just data enabled.
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This worked: disabling wifi allowed the MMS to send.
Is this a moto g4-carrier specific problem, or universal problem? Is there a work-around to enable both MMS and wifi simultaneously?
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This worked: disabling wifi allowed the MMS to send.
Is this a moto g4-carrier specific problem, or universal problem? Is there a work-around to enable both MMS and wifi simultaneously?
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It's not a G4 problem, it's more the app and I use Textra SMS for that reason but there are several that you can use. You can try that or Chomp which is by the same developer and I believe both are free to try. I actually purchased Textra because I just like the features more. In the MMS settings for both there is a setting called T-Mobile Fix. What it does is when an MMS is coming in or when you're sending one, it will turn off the wifi, send or receive the MMS and then turn wifi back on. I've seen that setting on other SMS apps also.
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It's not a G4 problem, it's more the app and I use Textra SMS for that reason but there are several that you can use. You can try that or Chomp which is by the same developer and I believe both are free to try. I actually purchased Textra because I just like the features more. In the MMS settings for both there is a setting called T-Mobile Fix. What it does is when an MMS is coming in or when you're sending one, it will turn off the wifi, send or receive the MMS and then turn wifi back on. I've seen that setting on other SMS apps also.
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Interesting. I haven't seen any issues with WIFI being enabled blocking MMS messages from being sent. I just use the built in Messaging app that coms with opengapps. My wife had an issue on her G3 that prevented her from sending MMS to a group but worked fine for single recipients. It turned out to be APN settings.
But this is good to know should I see any issues in the future.
OK, have had quite the adventure getting this to work.
I did install Textra and selected the "T-Mobile workaround" setting within the app and MMS worked wonderfully. For about one week.
The all of a sudden it stopped working. Phone crashed and upon reboot MMS ceased to work in its entirety.
This got me thinking there must be a conflict somewhere. So I uninstalled Lucky Patcher and HEBF, and lo and behold MMS would send and RECEIVE only upon reboot. Not once the OS was completely booted, but in that sweet spot of 30 seconds after the main screen popped up and the rest of the OS booted. So I'm thinking there is a conflict somewhere. The only other apps I have that require root is Titanium Backup and SuperSU - I don't think these would cause conflict but I suppose I could uninstall and see.
Short of doing a full factory reset, is there some sort of conflict debugging software that I can use to trace the conflict?
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OK, have had quite the adventure getting this to work.
I did install Textra and selected the "T-Mobile workaround" setting within the app and MMS worked wonderfully. For about one week.
The all of a sudden it stopped working. Phone crashed and upon reboot MMS ceased to work in its entirety.
This got me thinking there must be a conflict somewhere. So I uninstalled Lucky Patcher and HEBF, and lo and behold MMS would send and RECEIVE only upon reboot. Not once the OS was completely booted, but in that sweet spot of 30 seconds after the main screen popped up and the rest of the OS booted. So I'm thinking there is a conflict somewhere. The only other apps I have that require root is Titanium Backup and SuperSU - I don't think these would cause conflict but I suppose I could uninstall and see.
Short of doing a full factory reset, is there some sort of conflict debugging software that I can use to trace the conflict?
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I have TB installed and had SuperSU as well when I was on stock. Didn't see any issues with MMS once I got APN setup correctly. Short of doing a factory reset or disabling individual apps you probably don't have any options to find the conflict, if that is the issue.