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HTC said:
Committed to the developer community, we're launching http://www.HTCdev.com and opening Sense to devs via OpenSense SDK #uplinq #HTC
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I don't understand, does this mean Sense is going to be opensource?
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Looks like it
Although, I highly doubt that Sense 3.0 will work on our Hero's
i dont think its going to become opensource. i think its more like give developers access to api's and stuff to make widgets and apps that go seamless with the UI. as the name suggests, its just a SDK
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Yep, it's just for better integration with Sense apps. I bet it's for the new Sense though
poor market research, there is a lot of users which hates sense, look at numbers of sense/vanilla downloads
Sense SDK =/= Sense Source
no name said:
Sense SDK =/= Sense Source
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It would be a dream senarium,if you got hold on sense source. but that will probably not happen.
Somebody should hack HTCs database and steal their Sources
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vorcigernix said:
poor market research, there is a lot of users which hates sense, look at numbers of sense/vanilla downloads
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I seriously doubt that's true - of the non-stock UI I think it's the most loved and you really can't judge by the download of custom ROMs. And even there, Sense is ported if possible.
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I'm liking how quick things are going with this phone (already rooted and the bootloader is unlocked).
So, anyone attempting to port HTC sense 2.1 (or even 3.0 once the port to the WVGA-based DHD/HD2 phones is complete). touchwhiz4 is a nice improvement over the old one but let’s face it, it does not have a chance competing against the stuff HTC is making with Sense.
the ROM community development for the first S was a bit disappointing and am hoping things are much better this time round.
fatso485 said:
I'm liking how quick things are going with this phone (already rooted and the bootloader is unlocked).
So, anyone attempting to port HTC sense 2.1 (or even 3.0 once the port to the WVGA-based DHD/HD2 phones is complete). touchwhiz4 is a nice improvement over the old one but let’s face it, it does not have a chance competing against the stuff HTC is making with Sense.
the ROM community development for the first S was a bit disappointing and am hoping things are much better this time round.
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Not many people have the phone yet remember.
Also, the dev community for the original is excellent. Loads of ports!
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You should have wait for the Sensation with the amazing Sense 3.0
vegetaleb said:
You should have wait for the Sensation with the amazing Sense 3.0
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and locked bootloader
minty1978 said:
and locked bootloader
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Will most likely be unlockable like most other HTC devices. They wont be as big a c**ts as Sony Ericsson have been on some of theirs.
dh2311 said:
Will most likely be unlockable like most other HTC devices. They wont be as big a c**ts as Sony Ericsson have been on some of theirs.
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http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
Summered said:
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
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You only have to send them your name, social security number, IMEI, seriel number, and parents sex tapes in order to unlock it!
ryude said:
You only have to send them your name, social security number, IMEI, seriel number, and parents sex tapes in order to unlock it!
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LMAO
anyway, back on track.
i'd like to see a rom with sense, as I like the interface.
the LP Sense theme is a pretty good alternative.
hopefully getting my SGS2 next weekend
Summered said:
http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
You were saying?
(I assume you meant previous models?)
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Only on the sim free models, any purchased on a contract are stuck with locked bootloaders! Had an arc, sold it! (To be honest it was just a temp after I sold my sgs 1 and was waiting for the sgs 2)
And back on the subject of sense, I like the widgets and thats about it. I need toggles for wifi in the statusbar. prefer stock lockscreens and dont particularly like the launcher, I usually used to use ADW or launcher pro on my DHD back in the week I owned it for :S
maybe this thread belonged better in the development forum.
the only real advantage the Sensation has over the GS2 is the comunity development and the UI. porting Sense3.0 would be a MAJOR win. not sure why so many people in the poll are not interested in seeing it happen
THE GRIZZ said:
the only real advantage the Sensation has over the GS2 is the comunity development and the UI. porting Sense3.0 would be a MAJOR win. not sure why so many people in the poll are not interested in seeing it happen
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Because sense is a memory/battery hog, for some people the best experience is created by launcherpro, zeam or adw launcher(ex) Personally I tried sense, miui and cm7 but so far I prefer my own settings and setups. (launcherpro plus with custom wallpapers/widgets and transparent shortcuts) Cm7 might eventually become faster than stock but will not have samsungs tweaks/audiocodex/hardware acceleration and Miui really has to be your cup of tea. Same goes for sense IMO, besides I think the appdrawer and bars are pretty ugly and could use some transparency, but thats my opinion.
http://goo.gl/5hYTc
Now devs will be unstoppable since HTC is opening up the source to its Sense 3.0 user interface. I cannot wait to see what this summer has in store for us Evo 4G and 3D users!!!
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EDIT: Well, it seems as if what I read and assumed from what I read is misinformed... it seems as if HTC is really just giving out an SDK for development to support the Sense interface. They do not mention that they are actually opening up the code for Sense for public use (what I took away from the article). Oh well, at least it's one step closer.
Its pretty much just a sdk to make exclusive apps for HTC Sense phones. I hope no one supports it, otherwise fragmentation on Android just got worse.
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Welcome to thread #2 spreading this misinformation.....
Award Tour said:
Its pretty much just a sdk to make exclusive apps for HTC Sense phones. I hope no one supports it, otherwise fragmentation on Android just got worse.
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This.
It's not open source, they just want more people to make apps for Sense.
Androidious said:
http://goo.gl/5hYTc
Now devs will be unstoppable since HTC is opening up the source to its Sense 3.0 user interface. I cannot wait to see what this summer has in store for us Evo 4G and 3D users!!!
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So, what ya'll are saying is that HTC isn't really giving or opening up the source code, they're just making an app/sdk that allows people to make apps that support the Sense interface and that can work with the features? Is that what I'm hearing?
Androidious said:
So, what ya'll are saying is that HTC isn't really giving or opening up the source code, they're just making an app/sdk that allows people to make apps that support the Sense interface and that can work with the features? Is that what I'm hearing?
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Correct! They apparently want developers to make things that only run on Sense which IMO is a bad idea. What they should be doing is the opposite, making it so their widgets and code can run on any Android platform.
Androidious said:
They do not mention that they are actually opening up the code for Sense for public use (what I took away from the article). Oh well, at least it's one step closer.
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Its actually one step farther. Why would they try to build a competitive advantage (proprietary apps) and then open source it for other people to use?
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I just emailed HTC about what a terrible idea this and how dare they don something to put a damper on Android. Dumb asses. I may be buying Nexus phones from here on out strictly.
So a lot of ROMS are now offering sense 3.0, but is this the real sense 3.0 or is it just the widgets from it and the on-screen? I amusing synergy right now and it says under HTC Sense 2.1, so I'm kinda confused. Is it just this Rom that doesn't have the full sense 3.0 or is it standard that the ROMS only have the sense 3.0 widgets? Thanks
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Art2Fly said:
So a lot of ROMS are now offering sense 3.0, but is this the real sense 3.0 or is it just the widgets from it and the on-screen? I amusing synergy right now and it says under HTC Sense 2.1, so I'm kinda confused. Is it just this Rom that doesn't have the full sense 3.0 or is it standard that the ROMS only have the sense 3.0 widgets? Thanks
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Because the newer Sense versions take up more system resources and space people have made hybrids.
So basically, if sense 3.0 would be ported in its entirety it would bog down our phones? That doesnt sound good on HTC's part...
Art2Fly said:
So basically, if sense 3.0 would be ported in its entirety it would bog down our phones? That doesnt sound good on HTC's part...
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You wouldn't be able to fit many apps due to its size and yeah, it really wouldn't run very well without tweaking.
Not really "HTC's fault" as much as it is just progression of software.
The Evo is "old" technologically speaking.
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So basically, if sense 3.0 would be ported in its entirety it would bog down our phones? That doesnt sound good on HTC's part...
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That's why HTC hasn't released it for our phone. How is it their fault if the ports don't run as well on older hardware?
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You wouldn't be able to fit many apps due to its size and yeah, it really wouldn't run very well without tweaking.
Not really "HTC's fault" as much as it is just progression of software.
The Evo is "old" technologically speaking.
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this is true but it isnt even so much htc as it is sprint sprint and htc decided to not even give us official 2.1 sense which was pretty ****ing pathetic on their part lol
There are, from what some of the thread titles say, some pure 3.0 ROMs. Not sure how well they work or if they are %100 3.0. But like others said Synergy and MikG are 2.1 + 3.0 hybrid apparently based off the Evo Shift releases.
First let me take opportunity to thank all developers, cookers, kernel makers, app makers, theme makers and everyone for their outstanding job for our beloved SII!
I guess we all agree that the most wanted / sophisticated / beautiful (but not fastest) user interface is the HTC sense! And i know that there's a project ongoing to try to port a HTC sense 3.0 rom on our phone and that is really great!
However today i was watching the motorolla RAZR review and i kind of liked the user interface (dunno if it's still like the original motoblur)! I think it may be fair to give it a shot!
Besides there's the Sony Ericson user interface (timescape) which evolved beautifully IMHO in the latest devices! It looks classy IMHO!
There's also the LG user interface which doesn't look (at least from the looks) so attractive! It may look like touchwiz!!!
And i know there's a lot more!
So i thought! Hey why not port these ROMS to our S2!
I know there's a lot of launchers for android in the market! But i'm not talking only about the launcher, it's it and the widgets, the apps, the colors, the looks and the whole user experience!
So i think it might be a good idea if some devs-cookers try to port these systems in our phones or at least port part of it (maybe launcher and widgets and apps etc..)!
I think these might turn to be some special and challenging ports! I believe that few"non-routine" devs might give it a shot! (Actually i hope so).
PS: Please don't flame, or reply rude answers, these are simply some ideas; if you can't be helpful that's OK! But at least don't be unhelpful!
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I agree with op.It would be great to see razr ui
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Agreed. To have a selection of any of the above mentioned would be cool. The best UIs with the best hardware of the GS2
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Life Engineer said:
I guess we all agree that the most wanted / sophisticated / beautiful (but not fastest) user interface is the HTC sense!
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As per your request, I am not being rude, flaming nor being unhelpful, but I'd like to know your factual basis for what I interpret as a gross generalisation?
I personally wouldn't use any of your adjectives to describe Sense.
So who are all these people who concur with your opinion of sophistication etc?
Again, I stress I'm not hating - just at a loss to see how you can justify this statement.
tbh since ICS launch i doubt your going to find many interested, but i'm still all for it. my wish is someone would make an app to make using any widget possible, on any launcher, and any rom. that would be amazing.
I'd certainly be interested in playing with a port of Sony's latest Timescape UI & social network integration apps... never been much of a fan of HTC Sense though...
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev .
jje
JJEgan said:
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev .
jje
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Good idea
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B3311 said:
As per your request, I am not being rude, flaming nor being unhelpful, but I'd like to know your factual basis for what I interpret as a gross generalisation?
I personally wouldn't use any of your adjectives to describe Sense.
So who are all these people who concur with your opinion of sophistication etc?
Again, I stress I'm not hating - just at a loss to see how you can justify this statement.
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Ok man you're right! Not everyone likes sense!
However, if we want to rely on most users opinion, and especially on professional reviews (say endgaget, gsmarena, etc...) they all say that the best custom user interface for android is htc sense!
Personally, I had htc desirehd running sense 3.5 and it was wonderful!
Again you're right I shouldn't have generalized!
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JJEgan said:
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev .
jje
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Hehe I promise you that once I get one for myself I will donate one to you!
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Life Engineer said:
Ok man you're right! Not everyone likes sense!
However, if we want to rely on most users opinion, and especially on professional reviews (say endgaget, gsmarena, etc...) they all say that the best custom user interface for android is htc sense!
Personally, I had htc desirehd running sense 3.5 and it was wonderful!
Again you're right I shouldn't have generalized!
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actually lately engadget has been dissing sense, and i had the inspire (the U.S. Version of the desire hd) and thought sense 3.5 was a step down and that the sensation XE, OG Sensation, etc sense 3.0 was the best. it still wasn't perfect and i preferred aosp and touchiwz which is why i got my at&t s2
Life Engineer said:
Ok man you're right! Not everyone likes sense!
However, if we want to rely on most users opinion, and especially on professional reviews (say endgaget, gsmarena, etc...) they all say that the best custom user interface for android is htc sense!
Personally, I had htc desirehd running sense 3.5 and it was wonderful!
Again you're right I shouldn't have generalized!
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Sorry, I find Sense tacky and slow, with some weird UI elements, like the shiny sliding tabs.
Starting with ICS, they should make Sense an optional install after initial setup. Same goes to touchwiz, blur, timescape etc.
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I find sense laggy and a resource hog, overall making it a bad software product. Anyways not much interest really for either UIs. Please do no take this personally any dev, but a lot here are not actually skilled enough to achieve a port, some do not even know how to code much less. There are some, but it is few.
$1 gets you a reply
JJEgan said:
Kick it off yourself donate a new Razr to a Dev
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I know you meant it partly in jest, but in reality we already have the SGS2, we just need Razr firmware and a dedicated hacker!
Guys unless you are going to be able to hack the proprietary files to tun on none supported devices it is not going to happen. Like with sense. It looks for HTC framework files and HTC drivers. Some of the best hackers here have tried and without the needed framework files and drivers it doesn't work. Not to mention the last time some one even got close they got a C&D order from HTC. So even it it could be done HTC would never allow it and MOTO would do the same
So WebOS just went open source, and to be honest, it's a pretty nice looking OS, despite its lack of apps. Would anyone be willing to attempt a port of it to the MyTouch4g? Or even just some sort of add in for android? I know that it's been ported to the Evo 3d or something. I think it'd be really cool to have this option for android.
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Agreed. Would love to play around with the OS. +1.
would be EXTREMELY hard to port... :/
it's a whole other OS, not just a different UI with android running under the hood.
I agree. WebOS although Open Source is a complete different framework. How about iOS for Android?
ARey1212 said:
I agree. WebOS although Open Source is a complete different framework. How about iOS for Android?
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IOS is not only closed source, its closed source AND a completely different framework. Plus why would you want that on your phone? If you want that look get miui
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I would love to have webos on my MT4G once some gets android apps running on it. Developers got it booting on a EVO 4G but its a very basic port.
shall we put a price on its head? i would donate.
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I would love it if it happened. Unfortunately, it will take time for webOS's source to actually open up. It also would not likely be an easy port, although having both be linux-based should help somewhat...
Meh.. coming from a user that owns 2 touch pads believe me, its not worth it. The card system is nice, but that's about it.
I've had the tp since August and it sat on a shelf collecting dust til the alpha build of cm7 came out. And since that came out, I haven't booted into webos once(the tp cm7 is multi boot with cm7/webos)
Probably energy will be better spent developing an home replacement that looks like webos than trying to make our phones into a "palm" the os is just not as practical as an android unless you're just doing really basic stuff.
Just my opinion
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