Why is it not mandatory for people to post screen shots of their ROM, when submitting a new thread for people to try it?
I personally don't wanna waste time and hassle flashing a ROM to find out it's ugly and not well made.
You can spend hours, days, weeks building a ROM.. but can't take 3 seconds or less to take a screen shot?
Why should it be made mandatory? We all know what Sense ROMs look like. We all know what AOSP ROMs look like, we all know what Miui ROMs look like. If you cannot put two and two together to get four maybe you shouldn't be flashing ROMs. Screen Shots do very little to illustrate how well a ROM preforms. It just shows what it looks like. You don't look in the paper for a car and think "i want that car" without test driving it first. And you do not rely on other people test driving the car for you then reporting back to you.
I personally have no problems with them not offering screen shots for their ROMs. I'd rather download it and install it and test it for myself. After all it's easy for us to say what we like on your phone.
Because if the ROM is not themed (which will be stated) they all basically look the same. We all know what AOSP looks like, and we all know what Sense looks like. Why would you judge the ROM off of someone else's wallpaper?
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Why should it be made mandatory. We all know what Sense ROMs look like. We all know what AOSP ROMs look like, we all know what Miui ROMs look like. If you cannot put two and two together to get four maybe you shouldn't be flashing ROMs. Screen Shots do very little to illustrate how well a ROM preforms. It just shows what it looks like. You don't look in the paper for a car and think "i want that car" without test driving it first. And you do not rely on other people test driving the car for you then reporting back to you.
I personally have no problems with them not offering screen shots for their ROMs. I'd rather download it and install it and test it for myself. After all it's easy for us to say what we like on your phone.
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Yea, what he said! That always happens to me!
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Thats the point. Now we know diff Sense variant with GingerSense (2/2.1/3) but far as AOSP based goes few that lets not name is all same with just nice polished theme, thats about it. So for new users who don't know where the sourcetree came from they wouldn't understand A,B,C,D,E rom's as they are all same so SS is required. But for people who does know the change log alone speaks louder than the UI. This is why most stick with pure CM7 (NB/RC/SR) based.
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I post ss even though my aosp is completely vanilla and I have no plans to theme it or move away from the vanilla look
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Thats the point. Now we know diff Sense variant with GingerSense (2/2.1/3) but far as AOSP based goes few that lets not name is all same with just nice polished theme, thats about it. So for new users who don't know where the sourcetree came from they wouldn't understand A,B,C,D,E rom's as they are all same so SS is required. But for people who does know the change log alone speaks louder than the UI. This is why most stick with pure CM7 (NB/RC/SR) based.
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I understand where you are coming from. but though out time i'm sure any Android user has seen all of the different UI's. They might not know what they are named, but they know what they are, and have seen them. That's kinda the point i'm getting at. I'm not trying to sound like a jackwagon but someone doesn't need to hold their respective hands 24 / 7.
Self accountability and self responsibility i guess is a thing of the past.
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I post ss even though my aosp is completely vanilla and I have no plans to theme it or move away from the vanilla look
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for what it is worth.
And i completely agree with your judgment call on leaving vanilla just plain vanilla.
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But you miss the point again. Most of those new roms now are all CM7 spin off and they honestly offer nothing new other than the Theme. This is not debate about UI as we know what it looks like but this is to shed light on the folks who puts a theme and declare it a rom. SS is needed because they have diff theme if it was plain vanilla they wouldn't exist now would it? Now I am not bashing any dev's but come on do we really want to go in that path.
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I guess we are side stepping each others argument. We'd make good politicians . SS would provide a good insight to how the ROM is theme'd, and how it looks... And i'll give you that. But it will not do any justification on how well the ROM runs. How smooth it is or anything. My point still stands. Screens shots will not tell you how well a ROM is built it only tells you how it looks.
I agree with the OP, ss should be mandatory if you've done any form of custom graphical changes. While it wont depict the performance, it sure will give an idea on the appearance. Whether its food, cars, women & even roms, appearance is a deal breaker for me
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Why should it be made mandatory? We all know what Sense ROMs look like. We all know what AOSP ROMs look like, we all know what Miui ROMs look like. If you cannot put two and two together to get four maybe you shouldn't be flashing ROMs. Screen Shots do very little to illustrate how well a ROM preforms. It just shows what it looks like. You don't look in the paper for a car and think "i want that car" without test driving it first. And you do not rely on other people test driving the car for you then reporting back to you.
I personally have no problems with them not offering screen shots for their ROMs. I'd rather download it and install it and test it for myself. After all it's easy for us to say what we like on your phone.
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so i post 5 links to 5 roms
all you know is 3 are 2.2.1 and 2 are 2.3
2 are similar in looks
3 are totally different.
you're gonna flash every single one of them til you find one that suits you?
forget that...
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so i post 5 links to 5 roms
all you know is 3 are 2.2.1 and 2 are 2.3
2 are similar in looks
3 are totally different.
you're gonna flash every single one of them til you find one that suits you?
forget that...
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This thread reminds me of trying to get my wife to pick out an adw theme...she was so fixated on what the wallpaper looked like in the sceen shots that it made her dislike some of the themes. There aren't many super themed out ROMs in our dev section, and the ones that are do have screen shots. Like I said, for the most part you are just going to get a picture of the wallpaper someone is using.
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I've been using HTC Sense since getting my Evo on launch day and have been loving it. However, I keep hearing about AOSP and how the much-awaited Cyanogen ROM that is in development is using it.
What are some of the key differences between both?!
someone should post a picture comparison of Sense vs AOSP so threads like these will stop being created.
Download and flash evo v9 and find out for yourself.
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Download and flash evo v9 and find out for yourself.
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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No seriously, take a look for yourself its not that hard....rolls eyes
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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It will happen no matter what..Its not like AOSP is something new. There are countless pics of AOSP on these forums already. Google pic search for AOSP and you will also find many.
You have to use a AOSP ROM to really know how much better then sense it really is. Sure you'll loose some fancy dancy widgets but I have found good replacements for all the ones I used.
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It will happen no matter what..Its not like AOSP is something new. There are countless pics of AOSP on these forums already. Google pic search for AOSP and you will also find many.
You have to use a AOSP ROM to really know how much better then sense it really is. Sure you'll loose some fancy dancy widgets but I have found good replacements for all the ones I used.
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Yeah, I have looked at all the pics, etc ... I will just wait for this AOSP Froyo to be released then I will see first hand
You are correct this will be asked more times than it should, but better answers help sometimes. (and it was not like this was a bad question, vs some that I have seen)
Here are some screen shots, I'll try to add more later.
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Yeah, I have looked at all the pics, etc ... I will just wait for this AOSP Froyo to be released then I will see first hand
You are correct this will be asked more times than it should, but better answers help sometimes. (and it was not like this was a bad question, vs some that I have seen)
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It is a very different feel. I like clean/simple things (I like Apples computers and gadgets, for example) and to me AOSP has a more clean simple feel. I think Sense has a great look to it, but some of the bubbliness is tacky to me. The lock screen and rosie are nice, but most of the apps (calendar, RSS, etc.) and widgets are gaudy to me. I particularly dislike the bubble at the bottom to switch tabs thing, just ugly to me.
I also think there are some big UI mistakes in Sense. Editing a contact is confusing for instance.
However I do like the black notification bar, and I like Bugless Beast's launcher with a black google search bar.
In the end it is a matter of taste. One of the reasons I moved from my iPhone to an Android phone was to have more options in regards to this kind of stuff.
Is it just me or does it seem like everyone and their mother are posting Roms in the Evo development subforum?
I'm not going to name names or anything, but there seem to be a few teams that work very hard at distinguishing themselves as great releases only to get overtaken by people launching derivatives that are not much more than wallpaper changes of the very same roms?
Many of us can tell the distinction between the two, but I worry about new folks coming in who have no idea. I'm not going to spread FUD, but installing roms from an untrustworthy source is a great way for real problems to be introduced into the security model of the Android platform.
Does anyone else see this as a concern? Are there any solutions we as a group can come up with? Is this really not a big deal?
Yes you are correct
OMG I changed the color of the call [email protected]!!!!! NEW ROM!!!!!
Instead of theme change.
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
Now the kernels, I like, keep them going though. But the roms need to stop.
I think people are just making them in a sad attempt to gain free donations for their "efforts" or lack thereof.
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Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
I'm still a relative newb to Android, but I can see how it would be easy to get overloaded with all the ROMs out there. I've bounced back and forth between Fresh, CM6, and rooted stock for a while and I finally got sick of having to set up my phone over and over again (yes, I know about Titanium, but it's not good for certain types of things). Anyway, I finally said f*** it and flashed CM6 again and have left it there. None of them are perfect, but CM6 works the best for me.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
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Less twisting then what you think. It's not CM or stay stock. I personally ran CM nightlies and CM6, both times I left them because even with all the fine work he's done there are very large and blatant things I don't think are great about it.
Does that mean it's low end, no, but there are lots of Roms every bit as highend and polished as CM.
Now on the main OP, I agree that we are seeing a flood, but also that there is nothing to do about it in an open community which is pushing people to tweak and express and share. It is what it is, and if they aren't calling out the people who put in the actual time into said Rom and giving them all the praise for the actual work then shame on them.
One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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Neif, you crack me up whenever I see you pushing your grid. I've been dircting people to the wiki to check it out, but good luck trying to stay on top of all of the new releases. More power to you.
And to bring the thread back on topic - there do seem to be a lot of roms floating around that don't really seem to bring anything new to the table.
People are just posting what works for them. I am glad there are so many ROMs. If you think this is bad, I guess you never had a G1.
This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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I do wish there was a subforum in the dev forum for roms. Perhaps a sticky's for the top 10 roms based on votes or downloads or some other type of ranking system.
fachadick said:
I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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dsixda's kitchen has pretty much everything you need. I installed Ubuntu in Virtual Machine and have started messing around, but unless you know what to and not to change, there isnt alot you can do to make the rom unique. But its worth doing if you're interested in learning about rom development.
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I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
N00dle said:
I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
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Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
First I think we should be happy the evo has a strong community. We may even lose some with the galaxy s phones coming out.
Next a agree many aren't much of a difference, but for those that don't have time to tweak stuff in the kitchen before installing, it is nice to find exactly what you want.
Finally I'm sorry to sound like an elitist, but this is a hackers forum. There shouldn't be such an expectation of things always being safe and working.
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VSack said:
Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
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I do agree there are a lot out there and it can be tough for people to tell what is what. I don't think it's a bad thing though, device support is good, it means that hopefully things will be running for a long time to come.
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of dislikes this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who doesn't care for this rom?
Sorry for the rant
It's okay. I dont hate or like it
Haven't tried it. It looks nice and well done but the iOS styling doesn't draw me in
Think I'm gonna try it, but I'm with you flapjaxx
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you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
First thread I've seen about MUI. Flashing now
typ_ex said:
you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
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Probably.. I just don't see what the big deal is about this rom. I posted in the general forum so I am allowed to express an opinion/vent a little about a rom thats getting a lot of attention and I personally don't see what all the hype is about.
By the way you did read and reply to my thread.
Yea you're correct in stating that installing other launchers defeats the purpose. I liked it for about a week but went back cyan...now i'm on micromods hybrid...for me the sense roms got me hyped up. If the Mui wasnt iphone'd up then it would actually be really sweet but that whole iphone thing just ruins the experience and awww of having an android device
I agree with you OP. I dont like it at all. Now the fact they made a new UI is cool, but like OP said, if I wanted iOS, I would have bought an iPhone
haha fair enough.
I am not too big on the iphone icons either. However, I do like the lock screen, speed, and the battery life.
Also it isnt as obvious as in cyan, but it does have .flac support and will stop playing music when you disconnect. However it will not play upon reconnecting.
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haha fair enough.
I am not too big on the iphone icons either. However, I do like the lock screen, speed, and the battery life.
Also it isnt as obvious as in cyan, but it does have .flac support and will stop playing music when you disconnect. However it will not play upon reconnecting.
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The lock screen is slick. It does seem speedy, I can't confirm battery life only because I wasn't able to use it long enough to really wear on a battery. I do appreciate that there are so many choices with custom roms and the dev team that created this rom has obviously worked hard and it shows. That is the beauty of android, so many choices. It is a very pretty rom no doubt, but I just prefer a more stock type interface.
The MIUI ROM looks nice, but I also prefer a stock, simple look. Im happy to see them pushing the envelope though.
the big hype is because MIUI is a complete overhaul, different than what we are used to. Sometimes a change once in awhile is good, and MIUI is a great change I jump from cyan to MIUI. FM radio, lockscreen, and the UI is amazing, I do prefer different style icons but that's about it
It's a very, very optimized ROM. Battery life, speed, the super-neat toggles in the notification tray. You can just install another launcher and still benefit from all of the above plus the great lock screen, FM radio, and excellent phone/SMS/contact apps.
I Agree, with launcher it's really a nice rom !!
I like the resent part who include a task killer.
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I like the UI, but i miss a few features from CM.
CM with the MIUI launcher would be great.
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I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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And who told you that you have to use it and are not allowed to use anything else???
If you don't like it use something different. Whats the problem?
I don't like pink colored t-shirts so i don't wear them. I don't blame anybody else that wears pink t-shirts. I don't tell anyone that I hate them. I just don't wear them.
Same thing for you, if you don't like MIUI Rom don't use it. Try it, if you don't like it restore nandroid backup and forget about it...
And shut up, keep it for yourself that you don't like it.
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And who told you that you have to use it and are not allowed to use anything else???
If you don't like it use something different. Whats the problem?
I don't like pink colored t-shirts so i don't wear them. I don't blame anybody else that wears pink t-shirts. I don't tell anyone that I hate them. I just don't wear them.
Same thing for you, if you don't like MIUI Rom don't use it. Try it, if you don't like it restore nandroid backup and forget about it...
And shut up, keep it for yourself that you don't like it.
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Heh. Angry much? I can say whatever I like. That's the beauty of this forum. We can have that freedom. Have a good day buddy!
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you're probably the only one who would make a thread about it.
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ROFL! My thoughts exactly.
flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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Umm...dont use it then?
Just want to say I tried the port for my Inc, but went back to cm6.
Though I don't feel as if its my flavor of ROM, I do want to say it is very innovative, and probably the first (at least on ROMs for the Inc) of its kind to really truly redesign the interface.
So while I don't use it, I would definitely like to see more transformations of this kind.
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flappjaxxx said:
I'm sure I will get flamed but here goes anyway. Everyone is jumping on to the MIUI bandwagon, and yes in my opinion it does have a few cool features, but not enough to win me over. Am I the only one on XDA that kind of hates this rom? I've tried to like it but I just can't. I like roms that tend to be more stock anyway, I think modded froyo such as enom's rom and cyanogenmod etc. have all of the features and beauty that I need. I see a lot of people saying think iOS and Android together! If I wanted iOS I would own an iPhone and not a N1.
I understand it is all preference and whatnot, but I can't be the only one who hates the MIUI interface. FM Radio cool! Interface not cool! I know I can install other launchers but to me that kind of defeats the whole purpose of running this rom.
I'm not going to mess with it anymore, I just wanted to give it a chance.
Am I the only one who hates this rom?
Sorry for the rant
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Well i guess you have a wrong concept of the MIUI rom. It is not because of the launcher ppl like the rom. But because of the tweaks. till now there are no roms to my knowledge where you could change the lockscreen within the android os. ( i am not talking of 3rd party apps like widget locker....., here it's different. it's the native one being modified. ) we havent been able to change native phone and contact.apk, we were just applying themes. but the MIUI is different. Even when you go to settings in the menu, you'll observe how things get snappier and all bouncy. Not to mention the little menu's in the lockscreen ( now being seen in the sense HD), answer&reject mods when receiving calls... and the FM radio which were unknown and still being documented in the xda community. Basically everything has been modifies here, even the mms.apk.
so i guess it is wrong to make such an assumption based only on the launcher which ressembles the iphone. I have been using the MIUI with launcher pro and I had amazing battery life.
If you do not like a rom , just don't use it. Why dont u make another thread saying that rodriguezstyle is too greenish or micromod's roms are too glassy ( sorry chefs , lol . it was just to make my point). or maybe somebody else should start another thread saying i hate stock looking roms! Of course you can come up with all these talks that xda is a community forum, everybody has the right to bla bla bla , democracy.... and you do have the right but it is all about MANNERS and RESPECT here! You do not critise someone's work ( which you are getting for free btw) just because of ur taste!!
Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
so, if you dont like whats being offered by the devs, step up and make your own ROM's. if you read through the threads, most users do like what is being offered and that is why they are so popular. personally i cant stand the vanilla android experiance and am currently rocking Nils Biz-sence rom...
schollianmj said:
so, if you dont like whats being offered by the devs, step up and make your own ROM's.
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This.
Why haven't you "imported things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM" if it's so easy? These devs are theming their ROMs to their (and other users') liking, and they are nice enough to post them here. Appreciate that for what it is.
I'd like a vanilla rom that I could customize myself, but I would prefer to have someone else do the work so I'll take what they give me.
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DRW315 said:
This.
Why haven't you "imported things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM" if it's so easy? These devs are theming their ROMs to their (and other users') liking, and they are nice enough to post them here. Appreciate that for what it is.
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I'm not saying it's easy, I can't do what the CM team has done, (because that's what they're doing; taking the CM fixes, applying them, and theming it to their liking) but why are the 2 only ROM dev's right now working on adding **** to a version of android that ISN'T already built for the Incredible? Why can't they make a vanilla ROM, AND THEN customize it to their liking?
rabidpencil said:
I'd like a vanilla rom that I could customize myself, but I would prefer to have someone else do the work so I'll take what they give me.
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So you'd rather have what someone else likes and thinks is "right" instead of what YOU want on YOUR phone? I'm not saying it's a bad thing but why wouldn't you want your own customizations instead of someone elses?
ilinfinityil said:
Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
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Pretty sure OMGB is stock vanilla. With rare exceptions, one being messaging being on the launcher instead of the browser.
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ilinfinityil said:
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there?
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what the hell are you talking about? have you even started up the gingerbread emu or searched screenshots of GB?
holy **** man, it is vanilla. that's how google released 2.3, with the black status and lime green/orange icons. use whatever launcher you want.
these are free ROMS from unpaid developers, who are porting the ROMs and allowing you to run them WAY BEFORE it would be available to you OTA.
dude srsly
tcberg2010 said:
Pretty sure OMGB is stock vanilla. With rare exceptions, one being messaging being on the launcher instead of the browser.
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The last build I tried, it said "WeDoDroid" instead of "Verizon Wireless" or even "T-CDMA". Also, the change you just mentioned, different kernals used, different music app, probably other things I can't remember.
infotechsailor said:
what the hell are you talking about? have you even started up the gingerbread emu or searched screenshots of GB?
holy **** man, it is vanilla. that's how google released 2.3, with the black status and lime green/orange icons. use whatever launcher you want.
these are free ROMS from unpaid developers, who are porting the ROMs and allowing you to run them WAY BEFORE it would be available to you OTA.
dude srsly
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Refer to my last post quoting someone else and the list of modifications, it's obvious you didn't read my entire post and just quoted a single line.
I should also clarify that I AM thankful for all the free **** us users get from this community, no doubt about that, but I'm just merely confused about how people go about things.
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Refer to my last post quoting someone else and the list of modifications, it's obvious you didn't read my entire post and just quoted a single line.
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i read your post. you are complaining about colors and designs.
its obvious you don't know what GB is supposed to look like.
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
ilinfinityil said:
Two things...
Why are the new gingerbread ROMs (OMGB and Evervolv) themed and modified to hell and back? Why can't someone just import things (one by one) to build a stock vanilla gingerbread ROM, and then work from there? I don't want anything altered from the basic vanilla ROM but here we are, dealing with all these customizations and different themes already applied and apps thrown onto there (other than the basics like SU). I don't want any music app on my phone so WHY FORCE ME TO HAVE ONE? I don't want to only have to choose between 2 ROMs to enjoy gingerbread this early. This ultimately leads me having to alter things to GET IT BACK TO A VANILLA ROM.
Also, why must all themes have to be rainbow-eccentric and have no "flowing" colors? Most of the themes are just an eye-sore and make me think the "designer" is colorblind and leaves me to theming everything myself. No, the app doesn't look good if it has a STRONG RED next to a DEEP BLACK, with STRONG BLUE somewhere mixed in.
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even though you sound a little rude and demanding for things that are free....i totally agree with you.
but at the same time i in the beginning steps of my brand new laptop and im going to start compiling roms on my own.
but i defiantly know how you feel being stuck between 2 roms
infotechsailor said:
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
DRW315 said:
Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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+1................
DS36 said:
even though you sound a little rude and demanding for things that are free....i totally agree with you.
but at the same time i in the beginning steps of my brand new laptop and im going to start compiling roms on my own.
but i defiantly know how you feel being stuck between 2 roms
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ROM developing
step 1 - get a computer
step 2 - learn to spell "definitely"
step 3 - learn to program in java
step 4 - learn to use linux
step 5 - learn extensible markups and the android os
step 6 - cook a rom
step 7 - post it on xda and ask for donations for step 8
step 8 - buy a 1337 t-shirt and a case of red bull
almost there
infotechsailor said:
i read your post. you are complaining about colors and designs.
its obvious you don't know what GB is supposed to look like.
Go install eclipse and start up the GB SDK in an emu and you'll see how great the "stock vanilla GB" really is. not.
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I'm talking about graphical modifications, such as the different font (on Evervolv) and "WeDoDroid" on OMGB. If you would've kept reading the thread I mentioned a list of things to someone else a couple posts from my first one, but I don't expect people to do that
DRW315 said:
Why go through the work of doing this when you can just whine about it instead?
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I knew I shouldn't have posted here, it's like dealing with idiots. Most of you are missing my original point.
But to address you, I've put hours into making my own ROM so it's to my own liking, and no I'm not going to upload it to the forums or show you proof because I simply do not feel the need to prove something to anonymous forum users for satisfaction.
Then just use your own ROM dude....
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
Then just use your own ROM dude....
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I am! I just wish that instead of giving us only 2 choices for gingerbread ROM, they'd start off with a basic vanilla one and then work from that, instead of customizing what they want before the ROM is even fully functioning.
You have an HTC Evo Shift? You rooted it and put a custom OS on it?
Awesome.
First timer right her who wants to ask your preference, the only thing I have to have is the ability to tunnel my internet to project a free hotspot. That is available in CM7, so far I am leaning towards a nightly build... But essentially since I have not done this before, I don't know the best, I'm sure no one knows the "best"...BUT I would very much like to know your favorite considering that is my main concern
vee1287 said:
You have an HTC Evo Shift? You rooted it and put a custom OS on it?
Awesome.
First timer right her who wants to ask your preference, the only thing I have to have is the ability to tunnel my internet to project a free hotspot. That is available in CM7, so far I am leaning towards a nightly build... But essentially since I have not done this before, I don't know the best, I'm sure no one knows the "best"...BUT I would very much like to know your favorite considering that is my main concern
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Its all up to preference brutha. Try them all out.
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I really like Sense Roms, especially sense 3.0. I was rocking a stock, rooted rom, but got tired of HTC dragging their feet releasing the source code for the Shift. I flashed CM 7.1 stable, with Scary Ghoul 3 kernel, running at 1.5 gHz. But, if HTC already had source code for the gingerbread release, I'd still be on a sense rom.
Created a whole thread about this. Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262313
If you like Sense then it's gotta be Supreme Sense. Real nice ROM with lots of bells and whistles and a very nice camera app.
Me personally, I prefer CM7. I want raw performance and the maximum amount of customizability and CM7 offers all that more than any other ROM.
@Vico
The thread you specified was...
[INFO] Cyanogenmod 7 optimal settings for Evo Shift 4G on SPRINT (Updated 10-7-11)
Which is not what I'm looking for, I happened to say I was looking into CM7, but would be open to another OperatingSystem all together. CM7 does good work, but honestly they are the only ones I know about. So I would be narrowminded to assume the only one I know about would be the best choice. Since alot of people on this forum have done alot to their phones their input on a recommended OS will be followed.
Well I'm sure you know it depends on your usage, and preferences. I'm a Sense kind of guy. If your looking for a sort of stock Rom with a lot of extras that's quick, than MikShifted G v1.75 is a great choice. Stable, Reliable, and Fast. If your looking for something a little more over the top that's still stable, reliable, and fast. Than Supreme Sense is it, eye candy plus.
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@Vico
The thread you specified was...
[INFO] Cyanogenmod 7 optimal settings for Evo Shift 4G on SPRINT (Updated 10-7-11)
Which is not what I'm looking for, I happened to say I was looking into CM7, but would be open to another OperatingSystem all together. CM7 does good work, but honestly they are the only ones I know about. So I would be narrowminded to assume the only one I know about would be the best choice. Since alot of people on this forum have done alot to their phones their input on a recommended OS will be followed.
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It's either CM7 or Sense.
Pick one. If you pick CM7 take a look at my thread.
VICODAN said:
It's either CM7 or Sense.
Pick one. If you pick CM7 take a look at my thread.
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Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
nativ73 said:
Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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I really like MIUI. I just wish it had 4G
nativ73 said:
Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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You mean that ROM that looks exactly like an iPhone? Never heard of it.
VICODAN said:
You mean that ROM that looks exactly like an iPhone? Never heard of it.
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Launcher pro ex had an ios extreme iPhone theme
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nativ73 said:
Don't discount MIUI.. there are a lot of people into it for one reason or another. Myself being one of them. Someone new to flashing roms might find it's exactly what they're looking for.
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True. MIUI is not for me but everyone should flash it at least once.
jesusice said:
True. MIUI is not for me but everyone should flash it at least once.
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Agreed especially if you upgraded from a hero lol
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VICODAN said:
You mean that ROM that looks exactly like an iPhone? Never heard of it.
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For never hearing of it you sure seem to know what it looks like .
Lol messin with ya.
I like MIUI alot , yes it has the iphonesque feel but there's a lot of added features, and absolutley amazing I mean OUTSTANDING theme support lol. (Coming from a themer here )
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I think miui is pretty cook because you can literally change everything! A ton of themes and icon packs. Just so many ways to customize. But I live supreme. I just can't leave it!
I flashed miui just to flah it and I haven't flashed another rom since... love the ui straight and to the point, lots of themes is def a plus... I have no 4g so don't miss it at all...
Sent from my speedy miui w/1.9 of goodness!!
@Vico I've read alot of your threads, you do good work, this weekend im going to give it a try again trying to root and reprogram my shift...
vee1287 said:
@Vico I've read alot of your threads, you do good work, this weekend im going to give it a try again trying to root and reprogram my shift...
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Thanks vee1287. You should join us in the chatroom.
I guess I'll go looking for it after attempting and hboot downgrade again. I dont want to talk about it here though, It would technically be off topic. bah.