I have heard others say Motorola will unlock bootloader? - Droid X General

I cannot find any quote, maybe I'm not good enough at searching, where Motorola says they will release the bootloader.

There has been a public announcement that Motorola is planning on unlocking their bootloaders in late 2011.

Source, if you would?
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Someone on twitter, about a month ago, I will do some digging

Found a bunch:
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/04/26/motorola.to.unlock.some.bootloaders.like.xoom/
http://www.talkandroid.com/38638-motorola-will-change-bootloader-policy-late-2011/
Find more by google searching "Motorola bootloader unlocked late 2011"

"...where carriers will allow it" is the key phrase. I've heard people say that Verizon is as much to blame for the Droid X's locked bootloader as Motorola is.

Contrast with htc's announcement this evening...

mrkite38 said:
Contrast with htc's announcement this evening...
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I have heard some say htc is just saying it is now the carriers fault for any locked bootloaders

They better because the HTC phones and the Galaxy S II lineup are looking really good to me.

HTC said, "HTC will no longer be locking bootloaders on their devices!", which is both wonderful and amazing.
If VZW thinks that the bootloaders cost them less money, I strongly suspect that bootloaders will remain from manufacturers that offer them on VZW.
http://htcsource.com/2011/05/official-htc-will-no-longer-be-locking-bootloaders-on-their-devices/

Jmoney47 said:
Found a bunch:
http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/04/26/motorola.to.unlock.some.bootloaders.like.xoom/
http://www.talkandroid.com/38638-motorola-will-change-bootloader-policy-late-2011/
Find more by google searching "Motorola bootloader unlocked late 2011"
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Thanks, this is what I was looking for, you are better at searching than I am as I didn't find any of these.
I suspect with the lower performance and the locked bootloader that Motorola will be selling less phones Where others will be selling more...

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Bootloader unlock Q3/4 2011?

I messaged motorola yesterday and I received this response
"Hi Jack, I refer you to our recent statement re. Bootloader: Motorola will enable an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on MOTOROLA XOOM, in future software releases where carrier and operator partners will allow it. We understand... the operator requirement for security to the end user, and will look to strike a balance with the need to support developer communities in using these products as a development platform. It is our intention to include the unlockable/relockable bootloader in software releases starting in late 2011.
In the meantime, Motorola provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices for developers at http://developer.motorola.com"
What do you think?
Old news .. they say that since a week.. i personally doubt it... its just that i dont believe motorola.. also "if carrier allows it" and "in future software releases".. who knows if the Milestone2 ever gets an update.. and the carrier thing.. they could use it as a backdoor
DeadSix17 said:
Old news .. they say that since a week.. i personally doubt it... its just that i dont believe motorola.. also "if carrier allows it" and "in future software releases".. who knows if the Milestone2 ever gets an update.. and the carrier thing.. they could use it as a backdoor
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I replied asking about the unlocked phones which can't really come under "carrier allowance" so i dno...
I think they will unlock bootloaders only on new phones, no old.
That would be pretty lame from them to drop out not-so-old Milestone 2 from getting such an update. What is even more lame is the estimated time such update would come out...

[Frustration]Motorola Still has not learnt the lesson

Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
chowdarygm said:
Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
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I don't have MOTO but 4 of my friends do I can see the frustration even in the atrix users due to being locked up tight I'm sure many devs feel the same in there forum .
That's why I took my frustrations to the company direct HTC but I know thousands have to MOTO with no response it seems people say they will u lock end quart 4 this year maybe .. I think you can try your best to get them to do something I support anyone who wishes to make these huge companies see the consumer is what is most important ..
Xda is amazing I've been using 2.3.3 or a ginger based rom for a while people on HTC fb still asking for ota updates for the EVO 4g ..
So either keep on going after MOTO or hope the devs can make something happen..
Oh and nothing will happen till you get them to really hear your voice best of luck ..
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I'm still on the fence with regards to buying a tablet, but the lack of European support from Motorola isn't doing them any favours as far as my decision is concerned.
The lack of support for euro xoom is pathetic, this is my first Motorola for years and I would not have brought it if I had realised this was the situation.
madpete said:
The lack of support for euro xoom is pathetic, this is my first Motorola for years and I would not have brought it if I had realised this was the situation.
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while buying this, i convinced my wife that moto will have better support than acer or Asus.... but i am wrong now....moto is the worst i have ever used...
chowdarygm said:
while buying this, i convinced my wife that moto will have better support than acer or Asus.... but i am wrong now....moto is the worst i have ever used...
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Try taking all this that you all dislike and send it all to MOTO Idk that's what i did to start with HTC it pissed me off we pay so much pay monthly fees and they do what give us no feedback as to why there system of updates is horrible
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My situation:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Still no UK price or confirmed spec, desperately waiting for some news on this. Have a feeling that it's going to be too expensive but who knows?
Motorola Xoom
Love the build quality and that's got my interest, not sure that I'll be satisfied with the display. There appears to be limited Euro support (bad Motorola!) and not so much activity in the dev section for Euro Xooms. Quite expensive.
Asus Transformer
Ex TF owner due to what I consider poor build quality, but I still haven't dismissed buying another so long as I can get a good one. Good spec, decent price in comparison. Asus appear to be quite supportive with updates, dev section looks quite active.
What to do!
UKseagull said:
My situation:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Still no UK price or confirmed spec, desperately waiting for some news on this. Have a feeling that it's going to be too expensive but who knows?
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Galaxt tab 10.1v in stocks in germany for 500 euros.....200 euro cheaper than xoom
I think the 10.1v is the older version with the 8 megapixel camera, thanks for the link though.
For European, choose Samsung... or HTC. And of course ASUS
chowdarygm said:
Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
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It is kind of odd bc Samsung seemed to be the opposite when I was with them.
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
My European HTC Desire is still using Froyo
Philio25 said:
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
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to everyone.... one thing i don't understand here....
motorola talk about difference in hardware and software based of regions bla bla bla bla.... how the hell Apple is able to rollout anything for every apple device at once.....i dont understand the point here.......can anyone explain me?
i read on moto forums that its google's fault in not releasing 3.1 for euro xoom and moto has not to be blamed!!!!!!!!! WTH
how is samsung and acer are able to already customise it and release it???
stupid reasons ....
i am starting to loose my patience now seeing how moto is treating and telling meaningless reasons....
Philio25 said:
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
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The 3G US Xoom update has been out for 2 weeks now. The big deal is the update includes fixes for long lists of bugs for 3.01, which is not the most stable OS to start with. I don’t want my Xoom running on older and buggier software for any length of time more than necessary.
As a customer, I don’t care who is responsible for the update. I expect my device to be update in a timely manner like IOS/Windows desktop. If Motorola/Google cannot deliver on this, than I’ll simply choose a different manufacture or operating system for my next device.
Those updates are for new operating system, like you said Eclair and Gingerbread. We are talking about an update within Honeycomb, so its not a fair comparison.
Bottom line, I'm also frustrated with no 3.1 update outside of US, and no time line on when we will get it.
Did Motorola say that?
You bought the XOOM from Motorola, so no matter what... Motorola is responsible for the update!
chowdarygm said:
to everyone.... one thing i don't understand here....
motorola talk about difference in hardware and software based of regions bla bla bla bla.... how the hell Apple is able to rollout anything for every apple device at once.....i dont understand the point here.......can anyone explain me?
i read on moto forums that its google's fault in not releasing 3.1 for euro xoom and moto has not to be blamed!!!!!!!!! WTH
how is samsung and acer are able to already customise it and release it???
stupid reasons ....
i am starting to loose my patience now seeing how moto is treating and telling meaningless reasons....
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Xoom in Europe is different, its GSM not CDMA like the US.
The iPhone argument does not hold water either. The Verizon iPhone doesn't have 4.3 which has been out for months, the difference between the two phones is the same as the difference between US and non US, the radio.
FtL1776 said:
Xoom in Europe is different, its GSM not CDMA like the US.
The iPhone argument does not hold water either. The Verizon iPhone doesn't have 4.3 which has been out for months, the difference between the two phones is the same as the difference between US and non US, the radio.
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if it is only the radio, is it that difficult to change those lines of code and and send the update? how was it achieved very simply by our own devs in a day without access to advanced tools........
sorry guys, i am so frustrated now coz, my SGS2 is able to play 720p and 1080p butter smooth where as i am struggling to do basic things with moto 700 euro brick .....
Just like Samsung is horrible with updates in the U.S.
I'm in Canada so Motorola is horrible with updates as expected.
I guess short Moto's stock and become rich.
I'm a french user, got a Xoom Wifi only (MZ604), and i'm also hoping for a 3.1 update soon...
Wanna try to flash US stock image, but Motorola didn't release stock images for EU users, so i wont be able to relock it... and in case of problem, i'll got a brick without these images...
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X10 Bootloader Bad News Folks

I just had some bad news : requesting open bootloader for X10
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@hagisbasheruk There are no plans for that as of now.
So what do you say, do we get unlocked bootloader ?
No UNLOCKED bootloader as of now, doesn't rule out a future unlock though so mabey we need a new petition started to get this feature for our great developers on here.
Bear in mind that there will be no special sony erricson features on the 2.3.3 they are dropping all that. So my feeling says it might be unlocked.
Also I emailed sony netherlands a week a go with the same question about the bootloader of 2.3.3. They said 2.1 was the final version. I think they only know how to random press the keyboard and hit enter.
Yeah, half of these places you contact have no idea. In fact sometimes we probably know more than them!
Don't put your hope into this, one the GB update hasn't released yet, not everyone in the company knows about it (yet).
SE already stated that the bootloader will not be unlockable for the X10 due to contracts and legal obligations already in place with 3rd party vendors.
even if you [SE] unlock the bootloader after the 2.3, then the bootloader can be unlocked for 1.6 and 2.1 devices leaving 3rd party apps (at&t bloatware, moxier, etc) vulnerable.
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SE already stated that the bootloader will not be unlockable for the X10 due to contracts and legal obligations already in place with 3rd party vendors.
even if you [SE] unlock the bootloader after the 2.3, then the bootloader can be unlocked for 1.6 and 2.1 devices leaving 3rd party apps (at&t bloatware, moxier, etc) vulnerable.
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Yes just like we won't get a 2.3 update. They announced 2.3 after the bootloader unlocking program. So im sure we get unlocked.
PlayGunsta said:
Yes just like we won't get a 2.3 update. They announced 2.3 after the bootloader unlocking program. So im sure we get unlocked.
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uh, read SE's blog, it's listed specifically. all new devices will get bootloaders unlocked. X10, x10 mini, x8, etc, will not due to existing contracts in place and legal obligations.
they are going to update to 2.3 due to google's recent news release about pushing manufacturers to continue development on existing devices and stopping them from abondoning the user base.
so yes, SE previously stated that GB wouldn't come to the X10, but google is pushing manufactures to continue updates when possible on devices.
it has nothing to do with sony's abilities, but rather their obligations.
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uh, read SE's blog, it's listed specifically. all new devices will get bootloaders unlocked. X10, x10 mini, x8, etc, will not due to existing contracts in place and legal obligations.
they are going to update to 2.3 due to google's recent news release about pushing manufacturers to continue development on existing devices and stopping them from abondoning the user base.
so yes, SE previously stated that GB wouldn't come to the X10, but google is pushing manufactures to continue updates when possible on devices.
it has nothing to do with sony's abilities, but rather their obligations.
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So what, they can surprise us just like always.
svtfmook said:
uh, read SE's blog, it's listed specifically. all new devices will get bootloaders unlocked. X10, x10 mini, x8, etc, will not due to existing contracts in place and legal obligations.
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It may not be true but don't you think this is the reason why only the Generic unlocked X10s are getting the update. There are no plans to update carrier locked X10s..
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So what, they can surprise us just like always.
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not legally, which means unlikely.
The bootloader has been bypassed anyway, why does this even matter?
Because it's way better then just having it bypassed.
Do you actually believe that Sony Ericsson will give you info about something that they not have made official yet? You can ask them anything and they will give you a similarly answer. You will see that the bootloader will be unlocked.
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It may not be true but don't you think this is the reason why only the Generic unlocked X10s are getting the update. There are no plans to update carrier locked X10s..
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Thats not true. The Swedish phonecompanys 3, Telia and Telenor will be able to update their branded 2.1 to 2.3.3.
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webbsmurfen said:
Thats not true. The Swedish phonecompanys 3, Telia and Telenor will be able to update their branded 2.1 to 2.3.3.
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Thats true but you must take in that Swedish companies/ carrier is not as the companies / carriers in the states and we have only asked the custom service on those carrier so nothing is for shore yet.
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I think we need proof.
First there wouldnt be 2.1. Now there is.
First there wouldnt be 2.3, there will be.
That are the only facts where you can resource your data out.
Several attempts of me trying to get a clear awnser from SE failed. They allways tell you something else.
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Because it's way better then just having it bypassed.
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Oh really, why exactly is it better?
The reason we wanted the bootloader cracked was to custom kernels, this is possible through bypass.
If the bootloader was cracked/open, we'd have the exact same kernels with the exact same progress/bugs as we do now. I fail to see the benefit, but I might be missing something.
If anything, bypass is better, as if something goes REALLY wrong then you can still revert back to stock quite easily.
To me it smacks of just wanting to say that it's been cracked as some sort of nerd "status" symbol, although if anyone can prove otherwise then fair enough
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Thats true but you must take in that Swedish companies/ carrier is not as the companies / carriers in the states and we have only asked the custom service on those carrier so nothing is for shore yet.
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I asked them both. (In this case, Telenor and SE. Sorry about cut n paste)

Motorola Xoom 2 Media Edition

I don't understand the reason why there's not a Motorola Xoom 2 ME thread. In the Motorola Xoom 2 (10.1) rom the same of the ME? Thank you guys!
Hey
I have one of those too.
The ROM isn't exactly the same, but close enough that any exploit for the Xoom 2 would also apply.... like the root method.
Casey Rain said:
Hey
I have one of those too.
The ROM isn't exactly the same, but close enough that any exploit for the Xoom 2 would also apply.... like the root method.
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Thanks for the answer But now have you have a custom rom or use the stock? Because I want to buy this tablet that in my opinion is beautiful, but i'm afraid about the support of developers
pegox said:
Thanks for the answer But now have you have a custom rom or use the stock? Because I want to buy this tablet that in my opinion is beautiful, but i'm afraid about the support of developers
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The is no custom ROM's or leaks for the "XOOM 2" at the moment due to the locked bootloader, you can only root at the mo. However Motorola recently has been hinting on Twitter that an unlockable bootloader tool is coming, so if they are telling the truth this time then development will come after they release the tool. If you want a dev friendly Xoom tablet I would go for the original but if you fancy waiting a while then I would go for the Xoom 2.
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The is no custom ROM's or leaks for the "XOOM 2" at the moment due to the locked bootloader, you can only root at the mo. However Motorola recently has been hinting on Twitter that an unlockable bootloader tool is coming, so if they are telling the truth this time then development will come after they release the tool. If you want a dev friendly Xoom tablet I would go for the original but if you fancy waiting a while then I would go for the Xoom 2.
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Thank you is however the ME of the Xoom 2 a good product? Because i live in Italy and i don't know someone with this one I can buy it for 264.99€ on Expansys. Is that a good purchase? Thank you very much
pegox said:
Thank you is however the ME of the Xoom 2 a good product? Because i live in Italy and i don't know someone with this one I can buy it for 264.99€ on Expansys. Is that a good purchase? Thank you very much
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I will say its worth the money. The XOOM 2 has a sexy display, design and weighs lighter than the original Xoom. Plus Motorola should be rolling the ICS update next month hopefully. I will say buy it if you want a device which does the job. But you can always read the reviews from tech sites.
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I will say its worth the money. The XOOM 2 has a sexy display, design and weighs lighter than the original Xoom. Plus Motorola should be rolling the ICS update next month hopefully. I will say buy it if you want a device which does the job. But you can always read the reviews from tech sites.
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Thanks the last question In your opinion is worth € 265?
Yeah, it is.
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Yeah, it is.
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Thanks!
Hey i'm in a similar condition !
What would you recommend between a motorola xoom 3g 299 € and a motorola xoom 2 ME WiFi 264 € ?
Does Xoom 2 will be updated to JB ? Why Motorola supports more his older device ?
Thanks
Google is supporting it mainly, not moto
i found the frimeware to MZ 607, 608 e 616 in this forum....if help.....follow sbf.droid-developers.org
The only thing holding me back from buying this tablet is its support for motorola. they had promised so well JB ICS should be a feasible thing. I would never buy it and then stay with HC
However for the european people http://www.expansys.it/clearance.aspx?featuredTag=moto10&staticPage=motorola&instockonly=false
This is the italian site but the promotion is valid also for France and Germany
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i found the frimeware to MZ 607, 608 e 616 in this forum....if help.....follow sbf.droid-developers.org
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and what can we do with this? Develop rom?
TheStickMan said:
Google is supporting it mainly, not moto
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Huh? Google has nothing to do with the Xoom 2 whatsoever. The original Xoom was Google's baby and is the Google Experience Device that showcased Honeycomb. It was a Nexus in all but the name.
The Xoom 2 is all Motorola from the customized ROM to the bootloader that's locked down tighter than a gnat's ass. Google does not support the Xoom 2 in any way, shape or form.
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Huh? Google has nothing to do with the Xoom 2 whatsoever. The original Xoom was Google's baby and is the Google Experience Device that showcased Honeycomb. It was a Nexus in all but the name.
The Xoom 2 is all Motorola from the customized ROM to the bootloader that's locked down tighter than a gnat's ass. Google does not support the Xoom 2 in any way, shape or form.
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I was talking about Google supporting the original Xoom, yes.
Seems I didn't quote a reply. I
But Google owns Motorola ! :cyclops:
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But Google owns Motorola ! :cyclops:
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True, but they didn't when the Xoom 2 was first released, and Google has made it abundantly clear that, for the forseeable future at least, Motorola is going to continue to run as its own independent company.
It really has to be that way if you think about it, because the last thing Google wants is to piss off their major OEM partners like HTC and Samsung by putting all their marketing resources into Motorola and having Motorola release nothing but phones running in stock Android configurations. That would put an enormous dent in HTC and Samsung's sales and that's a calculated risk that Google can't take because without HTC, Samsung, and Motorola, Android is a mere drop in the bucket as far as the smartphone world goes; and don't think for one minute that HTC and Samsung wouldn't find alternative operating systems or platforms to use if their Android phones weren't moving units.
Nevermind the fact that Verizon is Motorola's bread and butter right now, and Verizon would happily give the DROID trademark license to another OEM if Googarola went to Verizon and said "From this point forward we're releasing nothing but stock Android devices with no bloatware." How do you think that'd go over with Verizon? Yeah, exactly. haha

Thoughts on the coming security enhancements for 4.4

Has anyone taken a look at the new security enhancements Google has put into 4.4? It seems to me that this could go either way. While added security seems like a plus for things like malware, etc, it also could hinder development and openness as well. If device is locked before upgrading, it would seem that achieving several mods, even root, will become pretty arduous, if not next to impossible tasks. This seems to go against HTC's openness with the unlocking of bootloaders, though, so I wonder how they will handle it? I suppose in the meantime, end users should achieve s-off and unlock now before the update gets here. Any thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
According to this, this will only affect devices from carriers that do not allow bootloaders to be unlocked (verizon) if I understood it right.
It will not affect international users as we have no need of root exploits seeing as HTC provide a boot loader unlock tool.
It will affect Verizon users if Verizon continue to lock down bootloaders though.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
According to this, this will only affect devices from carriers that do not allow bootloaders to be unlocked (verizon) if I understood it right.
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Everyone seems to forget that AT&T is now doing the same thing. So Its not just Verizon anymore.
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Everyone seems to forget that AT&T is now doing the same thing. So Its not just Verizon anymore.
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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around..att use to do it and now they allow it.
AT&T and bootloaders
a box of kittens said:
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around..att use to do it and now they allow it.
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This is just one of the articles about AT&T and there stand on Unlocked Bootloaders.http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
I can understand why they would want to lock down a subsidized device. Guess I'll be purchasing unlocked/unlock-able devices at full price from manufacturers in the future.
If you want to mod your phone, vote with your wallet and switch to a carrier that actually cares about their customers.
The argument about buying an unlocked phone is moot on Verizon because of the CDMA network for voice.
This is all going to come to a head at some point... Especially with Verizon.
It is going to be a huge deal with HTC though in terms of getting S-OFF.....
I am still concerned that 4.4 may interfere with phones already rooted and running custom ROMs.
EtherealRemnant said:
It is going to be a huge deal with HTC though in terms of getting S-OFF.....
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How so? The security makes exploiting the kernel and boot loader for root harder but we can already flash custom kernels, recovery and root when S-ON.
S-OFF isn't contained in the boot loader partition, like MID, tampered flag and locked flag etc it has its own partition.
As exploits are found HTC will obviously patch them which will make S-OFF harder but I'm not sure that increased boot loader security will have an impact on S-OFF.
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The more I look at it, if the device is unlocked and off prior to the upgrade, it should be fine, regardless of carrier. The obvious exception would be Verizon, but at least it won't be surprising to any of their customers. It's nothing new for them. I foresee an uptick in sales of international and dev edition Android phones in the future, though.
thegh0sts said:
I am still concerned that 4.4 may interfere with phones already rooted and running custom ROMs.
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If your worried about it interfering with rooted devices I'd advise u to just wait for the devs to build 4.4 roms to flash. Roms will be available right after the OTA drops as usual so I would play it safe if you're worried. At lease Intel its known whether or not this is going to be an issue.
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monkboy24 said:
If your worried about it interfering with rooted devices I'd advise u to just wait for the devs to build 4.4 roms to flash. Roms will be available right after the OTA drops as usual so I would play it safe if you're worried. At lease Intel its known whether or not this is going to be an issue.
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The N5 already can be rooted. I'd say we don't have much to worry about on that front.

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