I remember reading about having to unroot your phone from the Froyo update. I have the Z4root but it only has a root button.
1. Is it advisable to unroot for OTA update?
2. Any resources for Z4unroot?
Thank for helppin' a n00b out.
It is correct that you'll need to have your phone unrooted to receive the update. Are you rooted with z4 now? If so you should be able to click on z4 and have the "unroot" option appear. If it doesn't appear I have no idea where you should go. Did you do a nandroid backup as well? !
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Unrooting has never been necessary. You just need to be on the stock rom without any system apps removed.
How about frozen apps in Titanium Backup... need to unfreeze?
Dr, you're saying leaving phone rooted will not stop ota? I don't want update. Have frozen 2.2.1 updater in titanium and some other bloatware as well. I was informed doing all this would stop update.
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Being rooted will change nothing about the update. I can't speak to how Titanium Backup freezes apps, but I know in the past if someone removed/renamed apps in the /system/apps folder the update failed.
You should google/search this site for answer on how to avoid downloading the update if that's what you want.
What needs to happen in order for you to receive the update is that you must be on stock blur rom that came with the phone as well as not have any programs that prevent it from updating IE bootstrapperx, titanium pro, romwork (or w/e its called) etc. A lot of programs used to do Rome like the ones mentioned above have built in code to tell the ota update to basically go **** itself
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PM me i'll hook you up
I didn't have to unroot when I did the 2.2 OTA update. But just before I updated, I did unfreeze all the crapware I froze with Titanium Backup. Didn't have a single issue. Once I was on 2.2, I froze all the crapware again.
i have never un-rooted my phone for any updates. They always pass fine if rooted. Only fail if you have messed with bloatware or have a bootloader installed. You even keep the Super User App, but it just has lost root rights so it will no longer work until you re root the device
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Hello,
Why it's recommended to Freeze (which requires Pro version of Titanium Backup) instead of just uninstall bloatware?
Once you rooted and modified your OS you can not do in place upgrade to newer ROMs anyway, is not it? So why freeze?
Many won't allow a normal uninstall.
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lauterm said:
Many won't allow a normal uninstall.
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All ATT branded stuff all went away without a hitch
artisticcheese said:
Hello,
Why it's recommended to Freeze (which requires Pro version of Titanium Backup) instead of just uninstall bloatware?
Once you rooted and modified your OS you can not do in place upgrade to newer ROMs anyway, is not it? So why freeze?
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Because you will not be able to install any OTA updates as the update files look for all the bloatware. If anything is missing you are going to see a nice triangle with exclamation mark when you try to update.
This is why it is recommended to freeze those files. That way you can just thaw them before you update.
Does not OTA update will not install also if you rooted your phone and enabled sideloading anyway?
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AT&T stuff doesn't matter. It's the Motorola stuff that won't uninstall. For instance the BlurEmail won't work right with out Zimbra email solution with ActiveSync. It won't let me uninstall BlurEmail. I can install the working, stock email.apk that I found searching on XDA along side of it. That gets confusing though because in Applications they are both labeled Email. So, I freeze BlurEmail in Titanium.
If I try to install an OTA, it might try to update BlurEmail. If it does, the OTA update will fail. So, I just un-freeze it, install the OTA update, see if the updates fixed BlurEmail, and then refreeze it if it isn't fixed yet.
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Does not OTA update will not install also if you rooted your phone and enabled sideloading anyway?
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Yes you can. You just lose root when you update.
This is my second phone, before i had the HTC Tattoo which were lot's of rooting guide's, custom recovery's and ROM's.
I've rooted mine before on 2.3.2 with Gingerbreak, but i wanted the new android version 2.3.3. So i unrooted my phone with gingerbreak and installed the new android version.
And now i want to do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160
Freeing up some space and memory.
but i need root again.
What is the best way to root my phone?
I found this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
But does it delete all my stuff? And do i need to unroot it if i want to install a software update?
Thanks.
Rivalo
Rivalo said:
This is my second phone, before i had the HTC Tattoo which were lot's of rooting guide's, custom recovery's and ROM's.
I've rooted mine before on 2.3.2 with Gingerbreak, but i wanted the new android version 2.3.3. So i unrooted my phone with gingerbreak and installed the new android version.
And now i want to do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160
Freeing up some space and memory.
but i need root again.
What is the best way to root my phone?
I found this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
But does it delete all my stuff? And do i need to unroot it if i want to install a software update?
Thanks.
Rivalo
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
AndroHero said:
Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
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Nope i don't have an unlocked bootloader.
No problem, if you have an locked bootloader, check out this thread for a tutorial on how to root 2.3.3, you will loose all data during the process though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
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No problem, if you have an locked bootloader, check out this thread for a tutorial on how to root 2.3.3, you will loose all data during the process though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
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Meh
How do i backup everything? And restore?
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
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OTA Wasn't even possible here.
I needed to connect it to my PC.
Rivalo said:
OTA Wasn't even possible here.
I needed to connect it to my PC.
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If you flash the uk generic 2.3.2 (from the link AndroHero posted here) then when you do the ota update it will search for the uk generic 2.3.3 which is available so ota will be possible.
As far as backing up you can try MyBackup Pro you will need the paid version tho.
Or use the free MyPhoneExplorer Client to back up your text messages, call logs e.t.c (cannot back up app data with MyPhoneExplorer Client)
Also found App List Backup quite useful as well. Or just look through the free backup apps on the market here
Can I just ask a quick question if I hard reset my phone will I lose root
Sorry if its a stupid question
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-josh- said:
Can I just ask a quick question if I hard reset my phone will I lose root
Sorry if its a stupid question
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Yes the factory reset will wipe everything apps, texts e.t.c including root. Sd card data will be fine though
Mozza2k11 said:
If you flash the uk generic 2.3.2 (from the link AndroHero posted here) then when you do the ota update it will search for the uk generic 2.3.3 which is available so ota will be possible.
As far as backing up you can try MyBackup Pro you will need the paid version tho.
Or use the free MyPhoneExplorer Client to back up your text messages, call logs e.t.c (cannot back up app data with MyPhoneExplorer Client)
Also found App List Backup quite useful as well. Or just look through the free backup apps on the market here
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Ehmm i don't have an UK version.
I'm from the Netherlands and i don't know what firmware version i have.
If it's build-number its .145
Btw now that i've rooted my Xperia Play and updated it over OTA to 2.3.3 can I in future update it to a newer version without losing my root?
Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
And now it spontaneous rebooted for the second time...
Rivalo said:
Ehmm i don't have an UK version.
I'm from the Netherlands and i don't know what firmware version i have.
If it's build-number its .145
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It does not matter since you will be flashing the uk 2.3.2 (in the guides). So any updates will be the uk updates not netherlands.
Rivalo said:
Btw now that i've rooted my Xperia Play and updated it over OTA to 2.3.3 can I in future update it to a newer version without losing my root?
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If you freeze bloat then you can use ota again when 2.3.4 arrives. If you uninstall anything you will have to reinstall it before you can use ota. Ota needs all the bloat still present on the phone or else it will fail. So i plan to unfreeze my bloat when 2.3.4 arrives and use ota in hopes of keeping root. We dont know if root will be kept when using ota to update to 2.3.4 but i cannot see why it would not work. We will see in october
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Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
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Never used apps2sd so i cannot comment sorry. Not used my backup pro either but if you can restore them one by one then unfortunately that might be the only way to get the apps data back. Google your apps2sd problem and my backup pro problem and see if other people have had the same problems.
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And now it spontaneous rebooted for the second time...
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Did you tick the clear user data box when flashing 2.3.2? If you did and it random reboots still you might want to try reflashing 2.3.2, do root then ota again or use SEUS to install a clean 2.3.3 then downgrade to 2.3.2 > root > ota to 2.3.3.
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Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
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You have to reinstall my backup pro and click on restore...specify the path to the backup if required...
Note takes a while to restore so be patient
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Thanks all,
Everything is fixed.
Deleted all installed apps on SD before flash (.android_secure)
And restored it with MyBackup.
Tomorrow i'm going to backup all the bloat and delete it. So i can restore it when i need it.
But freezing is maybe also a good idea. With this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160 i got 245 Free mb on internal and that's enough.
Since I purchased this phone I have had to Factory reset 3 times. Every time I lose all my save games. I have had to restart Zenonia every time. I am unsure I will ever finish this game. I discovered Visionary (for temp root until restart) and purchased Titanium Backup. It work great!
Now I see that we are going to be pushed Gingerbread. Have I wasted 6 bucks on Titanium backup? Is there an app that will provided the same functionality as Visionary on Gingerbread? I am happy with my stock phone. I just need the ability to backup my data. If I want to root my phone should I do it before the update? I read it will be more difficult with Gingerbread installed but I am also getting the impression that the Gingerbread update will not be pushed to my phone if I root it. Is this true?
No you will not get the OTA if you are rooted. If you do want to root your phone, you should do so before the update.
If its not 2.3.4 then gingerbreak MIGHT. Work
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I have a rooted xperia play, (no unlocked bootloader). I removed a lot of the default apps with Titanium Backup, basically almost everything from the sticky thread about bloatware. I backed up and uninstalled them instead of freezing.
Can I still do hardware reset or would I need to reinstall everything?
Same question for OTA updates
Okay I tried it myself and I could do hardware reset. BUT I lost partial function of my homekey (it worked for unlocking screen but it doesnt bring up home screen).
I installed 2.3.3 update through SEUS and it worked, but I lost my root acces. Fixed the home key though.
So I had to use Flashtool to go back to 2.3.2, root and ota to 2.3.3 without removing bloat.
Whenever you wanna do a reset or an update you need to restore the bloatware first. Otherwise what you described with the home screen will happen, and OTA won't work.
Now that you have 2.3.3 with root, backup the bloat with titanium first, then uninstall it. As long as you restore it before another reset or update it'll be fine.
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Thank you for explaining!
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captain67 said:
Whenever you wanna do a reset or an update you need to restore the bloatware first. Otherwise what you described with the home screen will happen, and OTA won't work.
Now that you have 2.3.3 with root, backup the bloat with titanium first, then uninstall it. As long as you restore it before another reset or update it'll be fine.
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Is that true?? if you delete system apps, you cannot ota that sucks, i'm glad i have an unlocked bootloder
AndroHero said:
Is that true?? if you delete system apps, you cannot ota that sucks, i'm glad i have an unlocked bootloder
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It's definitely true. I learned the hard way.. Lol
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OK I did not find this easily here, so am posting as a new thread - mods please delete if appropriate.
I had a rooted Atrix running 4.5.91 for ages, no issues. In looking for how to upgrade I came across a thread with the usual complicated series of steps and a side-note about OTA RootKeeper (find in Market).
So backed up (TBPro). Installed OTA RootKeeper. Unrooted. Verifyied it had. Re-rooted, to make sure it worked!
Then Unrooted and accepted the OTA upgrade.
Updated with no issues.
Restored root with no issues. All previously superusered apps still working fine, etc.
I did not find anything describing this very simple process anywhere, so thought I'd post.
(Only casualty of the upgrade is WeatherBug Elite which seems to be unable to connect - off to investigate now as mail, internet and everything else working fine).
Doesnt work
It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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That is not true.
I actually posted that it worked for me in one of the other rooting threads. I did a little different than OP. I didn't unroot for the update. The OTA broke my root and I restored it using the app.
Installed Voodoo. Chose to backup (protect or whatever the option was) the root. Installed OTA. Went into Voodoo and restored root. It worked without any problems. Works as long as you have root before doing the update so I'm not sure what you mean that it doesn't keep the root because it worked for me and OP. I have the ATT version in case it matters.
Worked like a charm for my phone. If you google, you can find specific instructions on the web about the process of how to do it (since the app itself gives no instructions).
Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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i have bootloader unlocked, rooted and CWM flashed.i installed voodoo OTA keeper , saved the all the root stuff with that app then did temp un-root and installed OTA, when it finished installing i just went to the app and hit re-root and it worked.. checked it with root checker
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Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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Should work the recovery is its on part of the flash storage on the phone so i don't believe it matters much to the phone once you get cwm on there when updating through OTAs.
broke wifi
I was rooted. Hid the root, uninstalled superuser. Did OTA. Unhid root and reinstalled superuser.
Now my wifi disconnects about every 20 minutes for a few seconds then reconnects.
Can't find a fix.
Atrix 4G Unrootable after OTA Rootkeeper
OK, technicially it is still rooted, but it loses Shell Root. OTA Keeper. After I re-root or restore root with OTA Rootkeeper, all the check marks are checked off in the Status of Voodoo OTA RootKeer EXCEPT Root permission granted. Superuser app installed, Device roote, Filesyste supports root protection and Protecte su copy available are all checked, but the device does not allow permission to important apps I need and are the main reasons I root my phone. I couldn't care less about ROMs and fancy cosmetics. I need functionaity that this OTA Rootkeeper has cost me. I have tried reflashing, restoring to factory settings everything, and I still can't fully root my phone. superoneclick hangs at step #7, manual root gets an error message "device full" all because this OTA rootkeeper app has completely locked out other root methods and has an incomplete re-root method.
and that is the truth.
My Atrix was rooted using SuperOneClick. I have system version 4.5.91, Android version 2.3.4. Bootloader not unlocked. No CWM or any special ROMS installed.
I've been getting the constant nagging of the 2.3.6 update, but I don't want to lose root. I have ota rootkeeper app, and it looks like the instructions from the OP are simple enough.
My question is, is my situation similar enough to the OP's so I can go ahead with the update? I rooted my phone mainly to use Barnacle Wifi Tether, so definitely want to keep using that after the update.