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I remember reading about having to unroot your phone from the Froyo update. I have the Z4root but it only has a root button.
1. Is it advisable to unroot for OTA update?
2. Any resources for Z4unroot?
Thank for helppin' a n00b out.
It is correct that you'll need to have your phone unrooted to receive the update. Are you rooted with z4 now? If so you should be able to click on z4 and have the "unroot" option appear. If it doesn't appear I have no idea where you should go. Did you do a nandroid backup as well? !
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Unrooting has never been necessary. You just need to be on the stock rom without any system apps removed.
How about frozen apps in Titanium Backup... need to unfreeze?
Dr, you're saying leaving phone rooted will not stop ota? I don't want update. Have frozen 2.2.1 updater in titanium and some other bloatware as well. I was informed doing all this would stop update.
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Being rooted will change nothing about the update. I can't speak to how Titanium Backup freezes apps, but I know in the past if someone removed/renamed apps in the /system/apps folder the update failed.
You should google/search this site for answer on how to avoid downloading the update if that's what you want.
What needs to happen in order for you to receive the update is that you must be on stock blur rom that came with the phone as well as not have any programs that prevent it from updating IE bootstrapperx, titanium pro, romwork (or w/e its called) etc. A lot of programs used to do Rome like the ones mentioned above have built in code to tell the ota update to basically go **** itself
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PM me i'll hook you up
I didn't have to unroot when I did the 2.2 OTA update. But just before I updated, I did unfreeze all the crapware I froze with Titanium Backup. Didn't have a single issue. Once I was on 2.2, I froze all the crapware again.
i have never un-rooted my phone for any updates. They always pass fine if rooted. Only fail if you have messed with bloatware or have a bootloader installed. You even keep the Super User App, but it just has lost root rights so it will no longer work until you re root the device
This is my second phone, before i had the HTC Tattoo which were lot's of rooting guide's, custom recovery's and ROM's.
I've rooted mine before on 2.3.2 with Gingerbreak, but i wanted the new android version 2.3.3. So i unrooted my phone with gingerbreak and installed the new android version.
And now i want to do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160
Freeing up some space and memory.
but i need root again.
What is the best way to root my phone?
I found this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
But does it delete all my stuff? And do i need to unroot it if i want to install a software update?
Thanks.
Rivalo
Rivalo said:
This is my second phone, before i had the HTC Tattoo which were lot's of rooting guide's, custom recovery's and ROM's.
I've rooted mine before on 2.3.2 with Gingerbreak, but i wanted the new android version 2.3.3. So i unrooted my phone with gingerbreak and installed the new android version.
And now i want to do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160
Freeing up some space and memory.
but i need root again.
What is the best way to root my phone?
I found this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
But does it delete all my stuff? And do i need to unroot it if i want to install a software update?
Thanks.
Rivalo
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
AndroHero said:
Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
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Nope i don't have an unlocked bootloader.
No problem, if you have an locked bootloader, check out this thread for a tutorial on how to root 2.3.3, you will loose all data during the process though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
AndroHero said:
No problem, if you have an locked bootloader, check out this thread for a tutorial on how to root 2.3.3, you will loose all data during the process though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
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Meh
How do i backup everything? And restore?
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
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OTA Wasn't even possible here.
I needed to connect it to my PC.
Rivalo said:
OTA Wasn't even possible here.
I needed to connect it to my PC.
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If you flash the uk generic 2.3.2 (from the link AndroHero posted here) then when you do the ota update it will search for the uk generic 2.3.3 which is available so ota will be possible.
As far as backing up you can try MyBackup Pro you will need the paid version tho.
Or use the free MyPhoneExplorer Client to back up your text messages, call logs e.t.c (cannot back up app data with MyPhoneExplorer Client)
Also found App List Backup quite useful as well. Or just look through the free backup apps on the market here
Can I just ask a quick question if I hard reset my phone will I lose root
Sorry if its a stupid question
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-josh- said:
Can I just ask a quick question if I hard reset my phone will I lose root
Sorry if its a stupid question
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Yes the factory reset will wipe everything apps, texts e.t.c including root. Sd card data will be fine though
Mozza2k11 said:
If you flash the uk generic 2.3.2 (from the link AndroHero posted here) then when you do the ota update it will search for the uk generic 2.3.3 which is available so ota will be possible.
As far as backing up you can try MyBackup Pro you will need the paid version tho.
Or use the free MyPhoneExplorer Client to back up your text messages, call logs e.t.c (cannot back up app data with MyPhoneExplorer Client)
Also found App List Backup quite useful as well. Or just look through the free backup apps on the market here
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Ehmm i don't have an UK version.
I'm from the Netherlands and i don't know what firmware version i have.
If it's build-number its .145
Btw now that i've rooted my Xperia Play and updated it over OTA to 2.3.3 can I in future update it to a newer version without losing my root?
Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
And now it spontaneous rebooted for the second time...
Rivalo said:
Ehmm i don't have an UK version.
I'm from the Netherlands and i don't know what firmware version i have.
If it's build-number its .145
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It does not matter since you will be flashing the uk 2.3.2 (in the guides). So any updates will be the uk updates not netherlands.
Rivalo said:
Btw now that i've rooted my Xperia Play and updated it over OTA to 2.3.3 can I in future update it to a newer version without losing my root?
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If you freeze bloat then you can use ota again when 2.3.4 arrives. If you uninstall anything you will have to reinstall it before you can use ota. Ota needs all the bloat still present on the phone or else it will fail. So i plan to unfreeze my bloat when 2.3.4 arrives and use ota in hopes of keeping root. We dont know if root will be kept when using ota to update to 2.3.4 but i cannot see why it would not work. We will see in october
Rivalo said:
Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
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Never used apps2sd so i cannot comment sorry. Not used my backup pro either but if you can restore them one by one then unfortunately that might be the only way to get the apps data back. Google your apps2sd problem and my backup pro problem and see if other people have had the same problems.
Rivalo said:
And now it spontaneous rebooted for the second time...
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Did you tick the clear user data box when flashing 2.3.2? If you did and it random reboots still you might want to try reflashing 2.3.2, do root then ota again or use SEUS to install a clean 2.3.3 then downgrade to 2.3.2 > root > ota to 2.3.3.
Rivalo said:
Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
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You have to reinstall my backup pro and click on restore...specify the path to the backup if required...
Note takes a while to restore so be patient
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Thanks all,
Everything is fixed.
Deleted all installed apps on SD before flash (.android_secure)
And restored it with MyBackup.
Tomorrow i'm going to backup all the bloat and delete it. So i can restore it when i need it.
But freezing is maybe also a good idea. With this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160 i got 245 Free mb on internal and that's enough.
I'm in need of some help, I'm rooted or so i'm lead to believe, I used wugfresh's method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 and everything seemed to work as planed but when i try to use TB or rom toobox it tells me I don't have root. I also tried root check and that comes back telling me I don't have proper root access. Can someone show me some love and help me out.
Thanks.
njswift10141980 said:
I'm in need of some help, I'm rooted or so i'm lead to believe, I used wugfresh's method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 and everything seemed to work as planed but when i try to use TB or rom toobox it tells me I don't have root. I also tried root check and that comes back telling me I don't have proper root access. Can someone show me some love and help me out.
Thanks.
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Install busybox installer from the market and install/update busybox. See if that fixes your issues. Also try installing SuperSu from the market, opening it, and updating su binary when it opens.
Did you run the busybox free app?
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Metallice said:
Install busybox installer from the market and install/update busybox. See if that fixes your issues. Also try installing SuperSu from the market, opening it, and updating su binary when it opens.
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I installed busybox installer and when I try to install/update it says it failed. As for SuperSu, it doesn't give me an option to update the su binary.
ScipioWarrior said:
Did you run the busybox free app?
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I ran busybox free and it says it's unable to verify whether or not certain utilities needed for this app to run are present and functional on my device. This problem could be caused by a device that is not properly rooted or by superuser settings that are misconfigured
njswift10141980 said:
I'm in need of some help, I'm rooted or so i'm lead to believe, I used wugfresh's method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 and everything seemed to work as planed but when i try to use TB or rom toobox it tells me I don't have root. I also tried root check and that comes back telling me I don't have proper root access. Can someone show me some love and help me out.
Thanks.
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Likely not but thought i'd ask - Did you update to 4.1.1 after initially rooting?
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Did you have the apps that use root before you rooted? I've noticed with some apps (that work with and without root) sometimes dont register that root is installed on your device so perhaps you should try redownloading them from the play store.
animatechnica said:
Likely not but thought i'd ask - Did you update to 4.1.1 after initially rooting?
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Yes, I installed the update after rooting.
jonnyg1097 said:
Did you have the apps that use root before you rooted? I've noticed with some apps (that work with and without root) sometimes dont register that root is installed on your device so perhaps you should try redownloading them from the play store.
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I've had the apps for a while on my droid x but I waited until after I rooted to also install them on the N7. I also tried uninstalling them and reinstalling them but they still don't work.
njswift10141980 said:
Yes, I installed the update after rooting.
I've had the apps for a while on my droid x but I waited until after I rooted to also install them on the N7. I also tried uninstalling them and reinstalling them but they still don't work.
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When you take an update it unroots your device. Re-root it with the tool and you'll be fine.
neilrl79 said:
When you take an update it unroots your device. Re-root it with the tool and you'll be fine.
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He should've used voodoo over the air rootkeeper to back up n save his root. So once you update, you can easily restore rot with one click in that app instead of having to use roottoolkit again.
neilrl79 said:
When you take an update it unroots your device. Re-root it with the tool and you'll be fine.
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I feel like a moron especially since I froze the updater on my droid x, I'll give it a try when I get home from work, is there anything special I should do or will I just have to click the root button?
demandarin said:
He should've used voodoo over the air rootkeeper to back up n save his root. So once you update, you can easily restore rot with one click in that app instead of having to use roottoolkit again.
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I will have to look at this app.
I will report back later.
Just rerooted and it looks like everything is working, thanks everybody
Today I had to restart my phone because it dropped data connection, the moment I restarted it said my phone was being updated and I should wait, it wasted my time and it shoved 10o update down my throat.
If I had recovery installed, this could have been disastrous, no?
Not only for recovery related problems, but this may also prevent people from being able to install certain things, or even one day in the future with a different update just block root?
How do we uninstall then disable OTA updates on an unrooted phone? When I disabled and cancelled notifications for Software Update app, I thought it was fixed, but it probably made it worse, it just installed without any notification or prompt.
I was planning to root and install twrp this weekend, now with all the horror stories I've been reading, I don't want to do it. :crying:
How is AT&T even allowed to push it without explicit permit to install on device.
hydeah said:
Today I had to restart my phone because it dropped data connection, the moment I restarted it said my phone was being updated and I should wait, it wasted my time and it shoved 10o update down my throat.
If I had recovery installed, this could have been disastrous, no?
Not only for recovery related problems, but this may also prevent people from being able to install certain things, or even one day in the future with a different update just block root?
How do we uninstall then disable OTA updates on an unrooted phone? When I disabled and cancelled notifications for Software Update app, I thought it was fixed, but it probably made it worse, it just installed without any notification or prompt.
I was planning to root and install twrp this weekend, now with all the horror stories I've been reading, I don't want to do it. :crying:
How is AT&T even allowed to push it without explicit permit to install on device.
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Pull down the notification bar and tap and hold on the notification. App info will pop up and tap it and scroll all the way to the bottom and uncheck show notification.
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oldpreowner said:
Pull down the notification bar and tap and hold on the notification. App info will pop up and tap it and scroll all the way to the bottom and uncheck show notification.
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I did that when I first got the notification. Notification disappeared. 2 days later I restarted my phone for the first time in over a week, and bam, it installed without any notification at all. So disabling notification won't stop it from installing, it seems..
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
hydeah said:
I did that when I first got the notification. Notification disappeared. 2 days later I restarted my phone for the first time in over a week, and bam, it installed without any notification at all. So disabling notification won't stop it from installing, it seems..
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If you have the ota, you could use root explorer or browser to go into the Cache folder and delete it(ota) then try to install it will fail or do nothing then hit cancel
How can I downgrade?
I don't mind paying for titanium to freeze the app. This is nonsense, enjoyment just update by itself, lucky I didn't install recovery.
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nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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What version of the G2 do you have? I'm on Sprint and I don't have "Software Update", I have "Update Device 4.5.1.10" which I just froze.
Does anyone know if I install the update can I still flash TWRP to my device? I'm not sure if I should install TWRP now and use the flashable ota zip or install it after I update it.
nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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I'm asking the same question OP is asking, is there a way to disable the update on non-rooted phones? And from experience with several other Android phones... I know it's pretty much impossible to downgrade unless you start flashing, but I'm gonna ask anyways. Is there a way to downgrade the upgrade that was forced down OP's throat and my own throat? For me it actually updated in my sleep, I woke up and it said my phone was updated. OP and I are on AT&T's D800 variant.
btm fdr said:
I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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zzandrewst said:
On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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Does anyone know the name of the file for T-Mobile? I can't find any of the names listed in this thread.
Thanks
What do I disable on Sprint?
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zzandrewst said:
On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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Looks like this worked for me also of my Verizon phone. It seems to have also remove the manual check option in the About phone section in settings.
nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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Well, it would still help to avoid further OTA's from being applied if we are rooted and do not use custom rom, there is always a risk of getting OTA and messing everything up, therefore if freezing above app worked for you, it should be all we need. Is Software Update the actual app which checks for version and receives pushes from AT&T when a new OTA is available, or if there are other apps/modules that does this. The problem is, if it is incorporated into android system like some of the other stuff AT&T incorporated, it would be impossible to completely eliminate it without running a custom rom.
RubbleTea said:
If you have the ota, you could use root explorer or browser to go into the Cache folder and delete it(ota) then try to install it will fail or do nothing then hit cancel
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Awesome the above instructions worked great! Thank you very much brother
disable ota on at&t
Did you totally remove the apk, or rename it? Also, if removed, will it cause other problems?
I only ask cause i had a g2 that was pushed an ota and bricked my g2. Had to get a new one, now trying ti disable the ota's from doing that again..
Then when kitkat is released, am i not able to update it, then root again?
btm fdr said:
I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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I have Lg G2 (Att) & hours b4 I have reflash'd back 2 stock and applied root about an hour later i got OTA so I click'd 2 recieve OTA it came back sayin Cant download OTA on rooted device if that helps and thatt was almost 24\hrs ago n still runnin smoothly but file was only like 16MB
So will a bigger OTA push current root'd stock rom out n brick my fone¿
this seems to work for G Flex users.. worth a shot on G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50454408&postcount=3
hydeah said:
How can I downgrade?
I don't mind paying for titanium to freeze the app. This is nonsense, enjoyment just update by itself, lucky I didn't install recovery.
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you have to flash the old version by using LG Flash Tool, like I did.
So, I have a question for you guys. I got my phone yesterday and I'm on 10o. I installed the CWM recovery for 10o via Flashify, and now I'm concerned about OTAs - I disabled it via the Hidden Menu, but if there's an OTA to update the phone to 4.3 or 4.4, I'd like to receive it and not worry about bricking my phone.
I don't plan on doing a lot of custom ROM flashing, I really just wanted to root and install Xposed. Do I need to flash a stock ROM and go back to stock recovery, so I don't have to worry about OTAs? Or should I be good with CWM and the stock ROM that I rooted?
So I rooted my at&t v20 h10 using the dirty Santa method. However, I just got home from work and when I went to turn on my phone it was in recovery. I then booted my phone and it says there is a software update available and it is preparing to update. I guess at&t has decided to force this update. I don't want the update as I will probably lose root or even worse it may brick so I just pulled the battery. I have about five seconds after I reboot before it starts to try and prepare the update again. I was pretty sure I had automatic updates turned off. Amy suggestions?
Since you are rooted install Titanium backup from the play store (the pro version is worth the money because you can use it on all your devices). After you install it use it to backup to all the installed apps and then remove the system update app and it won't download or try to install the OTA update.
You can also use a root enabled file manager to delete the downloaded update as well.
Unfortunately I have purchased titanium backup but don't have it installed. As mentioned before the update takes over my phone after about 5 seconds after booting. It won't let me do anything and will just say preparing for update. At first I pulled the battery to stop it. I let it restart last time and it boots into twrp. I have tried looking for the update file in the twrp file manager but no luck finding it.
McQueefus said:
As mentioned before the update takes over my phone after about 5 seconds after booting. It won't let me do anything and will just say preparing for update.
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Can you still fastboot? I saw in another thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/att-h910-update-t3535693/page3 (post 42) a few commands that can possibly kill the update.
Yes, I will try that when I get home
McQueefus said:
Yes, I will try that when I get home
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Yeah try the fastboot method it's easy to get into. Pull your battery and after you put it back in hold the Volume down key without pressing the power button just plug it into your computer via USB.
Also you should be able to flash your kdz file via download mode and then get TB installed and rip out the system update app so you can avoid the update.
Thank you, The fastboot method worked and got rid of the update. Do you know what to freeze in titanium backup so it won't try to do it again?
McQueefus said:
Thank you, The fastboot method worked and got rid of the update. Do you know what to freeze in titanium backup so it won't try to do it again?
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On my VZW V20 it was system update. I tend to run a batch action of "Back all user apps + system data" and just uninstall vs a freeze for debloating purposes. Also there's the old method of renaming otacerts.zip under /etc/security to prevent any update that sneakes under the radar.
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McQueefus said:
Thank you, The fastboot method worked and got rid of the update. Do you know what to freeze in titanium backup so it won't try to do it again?
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Update center & FOTA update 7.0 is what I froze,I originally thought it was 3 but those are they only 2 that immediately stood out in my frozen list on Titanium.
Forced Over The Air update more than likely was the culprit.
TB to delete nagging s/w update?
LBJM said:
Since you are rooted install Titanium backup from the play store (the pro version is worth the money because you can use it on all your devices). After you install it use it to backup to all the installed apps and then remove the system update app and it won't download or try to install the OTA update.
You can also use a root enabled file manager to delete the downloaded update as well.
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Can you supply details on how to delete nagging s/w update msg on rooted VZW L20 using TB? Thanks!