[Q] Question about rooting. - Xperia Play General

This is my second phone, before i had the HTC Tattoo which were lot's of rooting guide's, custom recovery's and ROM's.
I've rooted mine before on 2.3.2 with Gingerbreak, but i wanted the new android version 2.3.3. So i unrooted my phone with gingerbreak and installed the new android version.
And now i want to do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160
Freeing up some space and memory.
but i need root again.
What is the best way to root my phone?
I found this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
But does it delete all my stuff? And do i need to unroot it if i want to install a software update?
Thanks.
Rivalo

Rivalo said:
This is my second phone, before i had the HTC Tattoo which were lot's of rooting guide's, custom recovery's and ROM's.
I've rooted mine before on 2.3.2 with Gingerbreak, but i wanted the new android version 2.3.3. So i unrooted my phone with gingerbreak and installed the new android version.
And now i want to do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160
Freeing up some space and memory.
but i need root again.
What is the best way to root my phone?
I found this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043630
But does it delete all my stuff? And do i need to unroot it if i want to install a software update?
Thanks.
Rivalo
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/

AndroHero said:
Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
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Nope i don't have an unlocked bootloader.

No problem, if you have an locked bootloader, check out this thread for a tutorial on how to root 2.3.3, you will loose all data during the process though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090

AndroHero said:
No problem, if you have an locked bootloader, check out this thread for a tutorial on how to root 2.3.3, you will loose all data during the process though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
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Meh
How do i backup everything? And restore?

AndroHero said:
Do you have an unlocked bootloader? the method you posted requires it rooting will not stop you getting official updates, but unlocking your bootloader will, If you try to flash an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader, you will brick your device, bootloaders can now be relocked though, allowing you to flash OTA updates, you can also unroot, simply by removing SU from /system/xbin/
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OTA Wasn't even possible here.
I needed to connect it to my PC.

Rivalo said:
OTA Wasn't even possible here.
I needed to connect it to my PC.
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If you flash the uk generic 2.3.2 (from the link AndroHero posted here) then when you do the ota update it will search for the uk generic 2.3.3 which is available so ota will be possible.
As far as backing up you can try MyBackup Pro you will need the paid version tho.
Or use the free MyPhoneExplorer Client to back up your text messages, call logs e.t.c (cannot back up app data with MyPhoneExplorer Client)
Also found App List Backup quite useful as well. Or just look through the free backup apps on the market here

Can I just ask a quick question if I hard reset my phone will I lose root
Sorry if its a stupid question
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-josh- said:
Can I just ask a quick question if I hard reset my phone will I lose root
Sorry if its a stupid question
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Yes the factory reset will wipe everything apps, texts e.t.c including root. Sd card data will be fine though

Mozza2k11 said:
If you flash the uk generic 2.3.2 (from the link AndroHero posted here) then when you do the ota update it will search for the uk generic 2.3.3 which is available so ota will be possible.
As far as backing up you can try MyBackup Pro you will need the paid version tho.
Or use the free MyPhoneExplorer Client to back up your text messages, call logs e.t.c (cannot back up app data with MyPhoneExplorer Client)
Also found App List Backup quite useful as well. Or just look through the free backup apps on the market here
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Ehmm i don't have an UK version.
I'm from the Netherlands and i don't know what firmware version i have.
If it's build-number its .145

Btw now that i've rooted my Xperia Play and updated it over OTA to 2.3.3 can I in future update it to a newer version without losing my root?

Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...

And now it spontaneous rebooted for the second time...

Rivalo said:
Ehmm i don't have an UK version.
I'm from the Netherlands and i don't know what firmware version i have.
If it's build-number its .145
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It does not matter since you will be flashing the uk 2.3.2 (in the guides). So any updates will be the uk updates not netherlands.
Rivalo said:
Btw now that i've rooted my Xperia Play and updated it over OTA to 2.3.3 can I in future update it to a newer version without losing my root?
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If you freeze bloat then you can use ota again when 2.3.4 arrives. If you uninstall anything you will have to reinstall it before you can use ota. Ota needs all the bloat still present on the phone or else it will fail. So i plan to unfreeze my bloat when 2.3.4 arrives and use ota in hopes of keeping root. We dont know if root will be kept when using ota to update to 2.3.4 but i cannot see why it would not work. We will see in october
Rivalo said:
Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
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Never used apps2sd so i cannot comment sorry. Not used my backup pro either but if you can restore them one by one then unfortunately that might be the only way to get the apps data back. Google your apps2sd problem and my backup pro problem and see if other people have had the same problems.
Rivalo said:
And now it spontaneous rebooted for the second time...
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Did you tick the clear user data box when flashing 2.3.2? If you did and it random reboots still you might want to try reflashing 2.3.2, do root then ota again or use SEUS to install a clean 2.3.3 then downgrade to 2.3.2 > root > ota to 2.3.3.

Rivalo said:
Ok next error:
I saved my Apps with ApptoSD.
Later i made a backup of all my apps in MyBackup Pro.
How can I get my saved apps on SD back? I can't find them in de APP launcher, App2SD can't find them? Wtf has happened to all those apps? I can restore them with MyBackup Pro but I can do them only by one because the Xperia Play has ****ty internal memory but a huge SD card...
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You have to reinstall my backup pro and click on restore...specify the path to the backup if required...
Note takes a while to restore so be patient
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Thanks all,
Everything is fixed.
Deleted all installed apps on SD before flash (.android_secure)
And restored it with MyBackup.
Tomorrow i'm going to backup all the bloat and delete it. So i can restore it when i need it.
But freezing is maybe also a good idea. With this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174160 i got 245 Free mb on internal and that's enough.

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Droid Pro Update ... does it support root?

Latest update is out in the wild: 3.8.7.XT610. Info here
apparently this is a 43.8MB file
updated Blur
not Gingerbread
Wonder if it supports root??
jhalsey205 said:
Latest update is out in the wild: 3.8.7.XT610. Info here
Wonder if it supports root??
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I saw a post by Android wizard extraordinaire, CellZealot, over at MyDroidForums, who claims :
"... it supports root and is an excellent build. It also supports using the band unlock and GSM performance is far superior to the previous radio firmware. Overall this build is incredibly stable and without question the best build yet for this phone."
That's good enough for me.
Has anyone received this OTA yet? Nothing yet for my two in NY (one rooted, one not).
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Does this update require that I unroot my phone prior to it?
Could any person who has received the update upload it somewhere, please? I cannot wait to update my phone and root it again. I have tried to update it but it keeps telling me I have the latest software version.
Scanned the net and no one has posted the update...hopefully someone here will soon
nottin in new jersey checked on moto droid pro system update whats up with this enyone got this update runnin thankssss
There was a renewal. Loading ...
:-(
Was rooted. Installed OTA update without problems. Then applications like Titanium Backup can not longer get root privileges. Ran Z4Root to Permanent Root again, it crashes and leaves phone unstable, most of the time freezing a few seconds later and I have to remove battery :-(
fpont1 said:
Was rooted. Installed OTA update without problems. Then applications like Titanium Backup can not longer get root privileges. Ran Z4Root to Permanent Root again, it crashes and leaves phone unstable, most of the time freezing a few seconds later and I have to remove battery :-(
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Blarg, don't like the sound of that. I'm nit sure that my wife uses any root apps but there is just something wrong with an android phone that does not have root.
I used SuperOneClick 1.7 to get root again after apply this update.
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raphael888 said:
I used SuperOneClick 1.7 to get root again after apply this update.
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Thanks, will try it myself then...
raphael888 said:
I used SuperOneClick 1.7 to get root again after apply this update.
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Thanks very much for the tip... worked a treat!
Guys pleaaaaaaaaaaase, can someone upload the update file off his SD card?
received the update and rerooted again
Received the update and was able to root using the aroot method, z4root will not work .
Download aRoot!
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Guys pleaaaaaaaaaaase, can someone upload the update file off his SD card?
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I second that!! Bloody takes them ages this time ... wonder why the holdup with some devices?? Its not like theres a million of Droid Pros out there ...
OK, so I can also root with SuperOneClick 1.7 after the update, but the apps like Titanium still can't get root from the SuperUser app. adb shell su also gets Permission denied (after reboot). Any hints?
Edit: problems solved by using aRoot. My conclusion: run aRoot post-update, not z4root nor SuperOneClick.
I lost root after the update and tried Z4Root with no results. SuperOneClick worked after I tried both root methods and rebooted the phone.
I am using AntTek App Manager to remove bloat without any issue. The phone seems more responsive and I have not had any random reboot until now.
Yep - aroot after the update worked. Re-froze the junk via Titanium and my Pro is running well.
For those like me who didn't know how to use aRoot:
Quoted from designgears
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981866
http://ponack.net/designgears/atrix/aRoot/
"How to use:
note: xp users, you will get an error about the TIMEOUT function, ignore it.
Enable USB Debugging on your phone (settings > applications > development > enable USB debugging)
Plug your phone into your computer
Extract aRoot.7z
Run aRoot.bat (run unRoot.bat to unroot)"

A software update is available for your phone...

Hey all,
I just connected my Play to my PC and its saying there is a software update ready to be installed to the phone, how do you find the change log or details of what is in the update? I can't find any information about it!?
My Play is rooted, what do I do?
Thanks
depends on the method you used, if it was gingerbrick carry on, if youve unlocked your bootloader leave it alone, run away, duck and cover!
Yep as Waz said.
Don't update it if you've rooted your phone. Possible brick scenario.
Wait for the geniuses to release some custom roms instead.
waz000000 said:
depends on the method you used, if it was gingerbrick carry on, if youve unlocked your bootloader leave it alone, run away, duck and cover!
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I used gingerbreak, so is it safe to update via SE update? do I lose my root? do I just run gingerbreak again after updating?
And finally, what about my apps and saved data etc? do they get deleted with an update?
FK1983 said:
I used gingerbreak, so is it safe to update? do I lose my root? do I just run gingerbreak again after updating?
And finally, what about my apps and saved data etc? do they get deleted with an update?
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Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes (in that order)
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Ok guys ive just updated and yes it did Unroot the device. took about 10mins to switch on the phone after the update!
Just ran GingerBreak again and everything is fine. also nothing was deleted in the process.
Updating does Re-Install all the crap i had initially deleted Eg Sims,Twitter,Chinese keyboard etc
Just trying to see whats new Will post back with any info
CasualByron said:
Ok guys ive just updated and yes it did Unroot the device. took about 10mins to switch on the phone after the update!
Just ran GingerBreak again and everything is fine. also nothing was deleted in the process.
Updating does Re-Install all the crap i had initially deleted Eg Sims,Twitter,Chinese keyboard etc
Just trying to see whats new Will post back with any info
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Any changes/fixes?
CasualByron said:
Ok guys ive just updated and yes it did Unroot the device. took about 10mins to switch on the phone after the update!
Just ran GingerBreak again and everything is fine. also nothing was deleted in the process.
Updating does Re-Install all the crap i had initially deleted Eg Sims,Twitter,Chinese keyboard etc
Just trying to see whats new Will post back with any info
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Could you perhaps find the blob folder, zip the files, probably 3 files, and upload the zip? Then we can create ftf file for flashtool, for others that unlocked bootloader
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NielDK said:
Could you perhaps find the blob folder, zip the files, probably 3 files, and upload the zip? Then we can create ftf file for flashtool, for others that unlocked bootloader
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there would be no point mate, it's the same as mine already.
His update is the one we have anyway
Ok, updated and no difference at all that I can see, still bugs lol
Can you check if the update brought HD recording?
No its still 800x480 SD

[Q] For OTA Update - Unrooting Necessary?

I remember reading about having to unroot your phone from the Froyo update. I have the Z4root but it only has a root button.
1. Is it advisable to unroot for OTA update?
2. Any resources for Z4unroot?
Thank for helppin' a n00b out.
It is correct that you'll need to have your phone unrooted to receive the update. Are you rooted with z4 now? If so you should be able to click on z4 and have the "unroot" option appear. If it doesn't appear I have no idea where you should go. Did you do a nandroid backup as well? !
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Unrooting has never been necessary. You just need to be on the stock rom without any system apps removed.
How about frozen apps in Titanium Backup... need to unfreeze?
Dr, you're saying leaving phone rooted will not stop ota? I don't want update. Have frozen 2.2.1 updater in titanium and some other bloatware as well. I was informed doing all this would stop update.
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Being rooted will change nothing about the update. I can't speak to how Titanium Backup freezes apps, but I know in the past if someone removed/renamed apps in the /system/apps folder the update failed.
You should google/search this site for answer on how to avoid downloading the update if that's what you want.
What needs to happen in order for you to receive the update is that you must be on stock blur rom that came with the phone as well as not have any programs that prevent it from updating IE bootstrapperx, titanium pro, romwork (or w/e its called) etc. A lot of programs used to do Rome like the ones mentioned above have built in code to tell the ota update to basically go **** itself
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PM me i'll hook you up
I didn't have to unroot when I did the 2.2 OTA update. But just before I updated, I did unfreeze all the crapware I froze with Titanium Backup. Didn't have a single issue. Once I was on 2.2, I froze all the crapware again.
i have never un-rooted my phone for any updates. They always pass fine if rooted. Only fail if you have messed with bloatware or have a bootloader installed. You even keep the Super User App, but it just has lost root rights so it will no longer work until you re root the device

[Q] Why can not I use Titanium to uninstall bloatware?

Hello,
Why it's recommended to Freeze (which requires Pro version of Titanium Backup) instead of just uninstall bloatware?
Once you rooted and modified your OS you can not do in place upgrade to newer ROMs anyway, is not it? So why freeze?
Many won't allow a normal uninstall.
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lauterm said:
Many won't allow a normal uninstall.
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All ATT branded stuff all went away without a hitch
artisticcheese said:
Hello,
Why it's recommended to Freeze (which requires Pro version of Titanium Backup) instead of just uninstall bloatware?
Once you rooted and modified your OS you can not do in place upgrade to newer ROMs anyway, is not it? So why freeze?
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Because you will not be able to install any OTA updates as the update files look for all the bloatware. If anything is missing you are going to see a nice triangle with exclamation mark when you try to update.
This is why it is recommended to freeze those files. That way you can just thaw them before you update.
Does not OTA update will not install also if you rooted your phone and enabled sideloading anyway?
artisticcheese said:
All ATT branded stuff all went away without a hitch
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AT&T stuff doesn't matter. It's the Motorola stuff that won't uninstall. For instance the BlurEmail won't work right with out Zimbra email solution with ActiveSync. It won't let me uninstall BlurEmail. I can install the working, stock email.apk that I found searching on XDA along side of it. That gets confusing though because in Applications they are both labeled Email. So, I freeze BlurEmail in Titanium.
If I try to install an OTA, it might try to update BlurEmail. If it does, the OTA update will fail. So, I just un-freeze it, install the OTA update, see if the updates fixed BlurEmail, and then refreeze it if it isn't fixed yet.
artisticcheese said:
Does not OTA update will not install also if you rooted your phone and enabled sideloading anyway?
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Yes you can. You just lose root when you update.

[Q] Hardware reset after removing bloatware

I have a rooted xperia play, (no unlocked bootloader). I removed a lot of the default apps with Titanium Backup, basically almost everything from the sticky thread about bloatware. I backed up and uninstalled them instead of freezing.
Can I still do hardware reset or would I need to reinstall everything?
Same question for OTA updates
Okay I tried it myself and I could do hardware reset. BUT I lost partial function of my homekey (it worked for unlocking screen but it doesnt bring up home screen).
I installed 2.3.3 update through SEUS and it worked, but I lost my root acces. Fixed the home key though.
So I had to use Flashtool to go back to 2.3.2, root and ota to 2.3.3 without removing bloat.
Whenever you wanna do a reset or an update you need to restore the bloatware first. Otherwise what you described with the home screen will happen, and OTA won't work.
Now that you have 2.3.3 with root, backup the bloat with titanium first, then uninstall it. As long as you restore it before another reset or update it'll be fine.
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Thank you for explaining!
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captain67 said:
Whenever you wanna do a reset or an update you need to restore the bloatware first. Otherwise what you described with the home screen will happen, and OTA won't work.
Now that you have 2.3.3 with root, backup the bloat with titanium first, then uninstall it. As long as you restore it before another reset or update it'll be fine.
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Is that true?? if you delete system apps, you cannot ota that sucks, i'm glad i have an unlocked bootloder
AndroHero said:
Is that true?? if you delete system apps, you cannot ota that sucks, i'm glad i have an unlocked bootloder
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It's definitely true. I learned the hard way.. Lol
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