Since I purchased this phone I have had to Factory reset 3 times. Every time I lose all my save games. I have had to restart Zenonia every time. I am unsure I will ever finish this game. I discovered Visionary (for temp root until restart) and purchased Titanium Backup. It work great!
Now I see that we are going to be pushed Gingerbread. Have I wasted 6 bucks on Titanium backup? Is there an app that will provided the same functionality as Visionary on Gingerbread? I am happy with my stock phone. I just need the ability to backup my data. If I want to root my phone should I do it before the update? I read it will be more difficult with Gingerbread installed but I am also getting the impression that the Gingerbread update will not be pushed to my phone if I root it. Is this true?
No you will not get the OTA if you are rooted. If you do want to root your phone, you should do so before the update.
If its not 2.3.4 then gingerbreak MIGHT. Work
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Im new to Android coming from winmo, and this might be a noob question but is it possible to root the evo (with or without nand) without wiping / reseting the phone? If not is there a way to backup apps and settings before using something like simple root? I also already have both OTA's.
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if you just want a basic root, definitely go with unrevoked. it doesn't require a wipe. if it were me, with a fresh phone, i would root with unrevoked, get titanium backup from the app store, backup my phone, then do a full root with nand unlock, update to the latest and greatest radio and OTA(it's built into most roms nowadays) and bam, enjoy the rooted freedom!
Thanks for the help. I had been using Unrevoked but after the last OTA it no longer works. So any other ideas?
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I got this question but was not sure how to answer it. I understand that TEMP ROOT only sticks until a battery pull or a complete power cycle, and PERM ROOM via visionary r12 is supposed to stick EVEN after a complete powerdown and reboot.
Question asked was if you PERM ROOT via visionary, and then remove apps via titanium backup, does it also PERM remove the app from nandlock? In other words if the perm root is REMOVED via visionary, and then you power cycle and reboot, will the DELETED apps come BACK?
Thanks.. I wanna make sure Im giving out CORRECT information.... I have only perm rooted a htc hero and when I removed APKS from it after rooting, they were gone FOREVER, but I am not sure about nandlock devices.. thanks
Hey all,
In addition to the first question,
if i temp-root my HTC Desire HD, and then do a powercycle.
would my free-but-not-really-free-applications still run?
But we are no longer nandlock?
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If I understand correctly, no they won't come back if u r perm root
Sover3igN said:
Hey all,
In addition to the first question,
if i temp-root my HTC Desire HD, and then do a powercycle.
would my free-but-not-really-free-applications still run?
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If you paid for your apps you would not have this concern...
If you temp root with visionary then uninstall the apps with titanium back up, they will return after the battery is removed. I tried it I was having trouble perma rooting and my apps that were removed came back after a battery pull. But after I got s-off the apps stay uninstalled.
What if I use the z4 root app? Do I get a recovery or is it just a simple root and that's it?
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Doesn't work on the evo. check the link in my sig.
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I used Z4Root about a week ago on a stock Evo, with the most recent software, at the bar and within 10 mins I had my friends Evo working as a hot spot. Now this is only a temporary root and doesn’t give you complete control of your phone. No recovery and other benefits of full root.
Now Z4oot is nice if all you want to do is tether, or maybe to use Titanium Backup. But it gets old quick and your time will be better spent using a permanent method of root. With all the great methods out their there isn’t a reason to use temporary root.
When I first rooted I used the temporary unrevoked method (pretty much the same as z4root). I have since moved on to full nand unlock I love the ability to take backups try some mod like a custom battery icon or a Rosie modification, or even a Rom with new sense (Warm Z Rocks!) and Know I can restore my phone back to a perfectly good working order.
I recommend using Unrevoked 3. Used that about 2 weeks ago to reroot my coworker’s evo after unrooting for warranty work.
I remember reading about having to unroot your phone from the Froyo update. I have the Z4root but it only has a root button.
1. Is it advisable to unroot for OTA update?
2. Any resources for Z4unroot?
Thank for helppin' a n00b out.
It is correct that you'll need to have your phone unrooted to receive the update. Are you rooted with z4 now? If so you should be able to click on z4 and have the "unroot" option appear. If it doesn't appear I have no idea where you should go. Did you do a nandroid backup as well? !
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Unrooting has never been necessary. You just need to be on the stock rom without any system apps removed.
How about frozen apps in Titanium Backup... need to unfreeze?
Dr, you're saying leaving phone rooted will not stop ota? I don't want update. Have frozen 2.2.1 updater in titanium and some other bloatware as well. I was informed doing all this would stop update.
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Being rooted will change nothing about the update. I can't speak to how Titanium Backup freezes apps, but I know in the past if someone removed/renamed apps in the /system/apps folder the update failed.
You should google/search this site for answer on how to avoid downloading the update if that's what you want.
What needs to happen in order for you to receive the update is that you must be on stock blur rom that came with the phone as well as not have any programs that prevent it from updating IE bootstrapperx, titanium pro, romwork (or w/e its called) etc. A lot of programs used to do Rome like the ones mentioned above have built in code to tell the ota update to basically go **** itself
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I didn't have to unroot when I did the 2.2 OTA update. But just before I updated, I did unfreeze all the crapware I froze with Titanium Backup. Didn't have a single issue. Once I was on 2.2, I froze all the crapware again.
i have never un-rooted my phone for any updates. They always pass fine if rooted. Only fail if you have messed with bloatware or have a bootloader installed. You even keep the Super User App, but it just has lost root rights so it will no longer work until you re root the device
OK I did not find this easily here, so am posting as a new thread - mods please delete if appropriate.
I had a rooted Atrix running 4.5.91 for ages, no issues. In looking for how to upgrade I came across a thread with the usual complicated series of steps and a side-note about OTA RootKeeper (find in Market).
So backed up (TBPro). Installed OTA RootKeeper. Unrooted. Verifyied it had. Re-rooted, to make sure it worked!
Then Unrooted and accepted the OTA upgrade.
Updated with no issues.
Restored root with no issues. All previously superusered apps still working fine, etc.
I did not find anything describing this very simple process anywhere, so thought I'd post.
(Only casualty of the upgrade is WeatherBug Elite which seems to be unable to connect - off to investigate now as mail, internet and everything else working fine).
Doesnt work
It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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It's rootkeer doesn't keeps rot for atrix
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That is not true.
I actually posted that it worked for me in one of the other rooting threads. I did a little different than OP. I didn't unroot for the update. The OTA broke my root and I restored it using the app.
Installed Voodoo. Chose to backup (protect or whatever the option was) the root. Installed OTA. Went into Voodoo and restored root. It worked without any problems. Works as long as you have root before doing the update so I'm not sure what you mean that it doesn't keep the root because it worked for me and OP. I have the ATT version in case it matters.
Worked like a charm for my phone. If you google, you can find specific instructions on the web about the process of how to do it (since the app itself gives no instructions).
Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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i have bootloader unlocked, rooted and CWM flashed.i installed voodoo OTA keeper , saved the all the root stuff with that app then did temp un-root and installed OTA, when it finished installing i just went to the app and hit re-root and it worked.. checked it with root checker
rcklss1 said:
Are you guys using the stock recovery with this or have an alternative flashed? I have cwm flashed on mine so I don't think the ota will work. Am I correct?
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Should work the recovery is its on part of the flash storage on the phone so i don't believe it matters much to the phone once you get cwm on there when updating through OTAs.
broke wifi
I was rooted. Hid the root, uninstalled superuser. Did OTA. Unhid root and reinstalled superuser.
Now my wifi disconnects about every 20 minutes for a few seconds then reconnects.
Can't find a fix.
Atrix 4G Unrootable after OTA Rootkeeper
OK, technicially it is still rooted, but it loses Shell Root. OTA Keeper. After I re-root or restore root with OTA Rootkeeper, all the check marks are checked off in the Status of Voodoo OTA RootKeer EXCEPT Root permission granted. Superuser app installed, Device roote, Filesyste supports root protection and Protecte su copy available are all checked, but the device does not allow permission to important apps I need and are the main reasons I root my phone. I couldn't care less about ROMs and fancy cosmetics. I need functionaity that this OTA Rootkeeper has cost me. I have tried reflashing, restoring to factory settings everything, and I still can't fully root my phone. superoneclick hangs at step #7, manual root gets an error message "device full" all because this OTA rootkeeper app has completely locked out other root methods and has an incomplete re-root method.
and that is the truth.
My Atrix was rooted using SuperOneClick. I have system version 4.5.91, Android version 2.3.4. Bootloader not unlocked. No CWM or any special ROMS installed.
I've been getting the constant nagging of the 2.3.6 update, but I don't want to lose root. I have ota rootkeeper app, and it looks like the instructions from the OP are simple enough.
My question is, is my situation similar enough to the OP's so I can go ahead with the update? I rooted my phone mainly to use Barnacle Wifi Tether, so definitely want to keep using that after the update.