perm visionary root VS temp root - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I got this question but was not sure how to answer it. I understand that TEMP ROOT only sticks until a battery pull or a complete power cycle, and PERM ROOM via visionary r12 is supposed to stick EVEN after a complete powerdown and reboot.
Question asked was if you PERM ROOT via visionary, and then remove apps via titanium backup, does it also PERM remove the app from nandlock? In other words if the perm root is REMOVED via visionary, and then you power cycle and reboot, will the DELETED apps come BACK?
Thanks.. I wanna make sure Im giving out CORRECT information.... I have only perm rooted a htc hero and when I removed APKS from it after rooting, they were gone FOREVER, but I am not sure about nandlock devices.. thanks

Hey all,
In addition to the first question,
if i temp-root my HTC Desire HD, and then do a powercycle.
would my free-but-not-really-free-applications still run?

But we are no longer nandlock?
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If I understand correctly, no they won't come back if u r perm root

Sover3igN said:
Hey all,
In addition to the first question,
if i temp-root my HTC Desire HD, and then do a powercycle.
would my free-but-not-really-free-applications still run?
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If you paid for your apps you would not have this concern...

If you temp root with visionary then uninstall the apps with titanium back up, they will return after the battery is removed. I tried it I was having trouble perma rooting and my apps that were removed came back after a battery pull. But after I got s-off the apps stay uninstalled.

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[Q] visionary on mt4g

didn't see this answered anywhere else.... how long does VISIONary take to root your device? mine's been sitting for 20 minutes with the pic up and the message "rooting device, please wait"
Download and install visionary and setup to root on boot. Make sure fastboot is disabled in settings/applications. Reboot the phone and it should only take 30 seconds or so.
Mines in the area of a minute or 2
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Yeah, I had to restart the phone, then run it... took 15 seconds or so... thanks
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Visionary+
Hello, I'm new to droid comunity, so please forgive me for propably dump question.
I've got mt4g and installed visionary +
Now I have several options temproot now......or atempt permroot now?
I've read Mr Bill Florida's post and I want to ask, if every time I restart the phone I have to root again or how is it?
Thank you guys in advance.....I hope I did well in my first post ever
Please post questions in Q&A section.
bbb1617 said:
Hello, I'm new to droid comunity, so please forgive me for propably dump question.
I've got mt4g and installed visionary +
Now I have several options temproot now......or atempt permroot now?
I've read Mr Bill Florida's post and I want to ask, if every time I restart the phone I have to root again or how is it?
Thank you guys in advance.....I hope I did well in my first post ever
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Yes, if you don't perm root you'll have to use Visionary (or set it up to do it at boot) to temp root every time you reboot.
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visionary is not intended as a perm rooter i think, its mostly for if u have a single task u need to do once and need a root access for that...
We have 2 phones here, got mine first.. used visionary+ to perm root my phone. I can temp root my other one, but for the life of me can't figure out why the 2nd one won't perma root. Is there more then one update? Both are running 2.2.1. Maybe its fastboot? Hang on.. i'll try
Answer, nope.. no difference. Perma root still fails.

temp root loop help

when i try to use visionary perm root, it F**ed up my phone...
i get the visionary temp root loops
Tired rage method it didnt work either.
i searched up no real solution there.
(someone said i need to downgrade, but i have S-OFF and cant not get temp root, so its a no go for me)
G2 got OTA already and i can boot .. just cant root!
can someone help my friend please.
Do you have super user installed? And what exactly does visionary do when u try and root it?
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no super user installed
visionary just keep saying rooting please wait or something like that, sometime it just exist itself out and no temp root, sometimes it will stay at that rooting screen for hours, sometimes it went to a black screen which i have to take the battery out.
tried factory reset in fastboot, no luck either.
only thing i have there is S-OFF...
note : i can temp root before i tried to perm root with visinoary r14
Look at your running apps (in the manage application menu) kill everything that isn't stock. I was having the same problem, and when most people weren't complaining, thought an app of mine might be causing a conflict. And it worked for me, so try it out.
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qqyycchh said:
no super user installed
visionary just keep saying rooting please wait or something like that, sometime it just exist itself out and no temp root, sometimes it will stay at that rooting screen for hours, sometimes it went to a black screen which i have to take the battery out.
tried factory reset in fastboot, no luck either.
only thing i have there is S-OFF...
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so you have S off now? Can you get to recovery? If so download and flash a rocovery image like clockwork. After you get clockwork flashed just download and flash whatever ROM you want. They will all have root for you. If you cant get to recovery do a search for visionary boot loop fix. There was a whole post on the steps needed to fix it.
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[Q] Rooted via Gfree...says s=off but...

Hello all..I rooted my glacier viz the gfree method. My phone says s=off but when i try to use root only apps like set cpu or bloat freezer it says that no root access is detected. Can someone help me out here please. Im not sure if I did something wrong
Download terminal emulator and type in "Su" does it respond with superuser permissions prompt? also do you have superuser installed? If not you can download it from the market
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MissLaura said:
Hello all..I rooted my glacier viz the gfree method. My phone says s=off but when i try to use root only apps like set cpu or bloat freezer it says that no root access is detected. Can someone help me out here please. Im not sure if I did something wrong
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After you turn s-off you need to root one last time. just reboot the phone, then press temp root then perma root and your done.

[Q] Temp root after OTA Gingerbread update?

Since I purchased this phone I have had to Factory reset 3 times. Every time I lose all my save games. I have had to restart Zenonia every time. I am unsure I will ever finish this game. I discovered Visionary (for temp root until restart) and purchased Titanium Backup. It work great!
Now I see that we are going to be pushed Gingerbread. Have I wasted 6 bucks on Titanium backup? Is there an app that will provided the same functionality as Visionary on Gingerbread? I am happy with my stock phone. I just need the ability to backup my data. If I want to root my phone should I do it before the update? I read it will be more difficult with Gingerbread installed but I am also getting the impression that the Gingerbread update will not be pushed to my phone if I root it. Is this true?
No you will not get the OTA if you are rooted. If you do want to root your phone, you should do so before the update.
If its not 2.3.4 then gingerbreak MIGHT. Work
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[Q] OTA update mt4g w/VISIONary+

aight, I tried searching, and the few threads that mentioned this, was for full rooted phones... I'm on stock sense, permarooted using VISIONary+, etc... I got the OTA update at 12am, tried to do it, and the phone locked up on the screen with the phone and a red lightning bolt... did a battery pull, did the "unroot" via VISIONary, and the phone works fine... am I going to receive the OTA update again, or should I DL the zip file from the other thread, put it on my SD card, and power up + volume key, etc... pretty much, any help or suggestions is appreciated... lol
kevo817 said:
I'm on stock sense, permarooted using VISIONary+, etc... I got the OTA update at 12am
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Impossible. You must not be truly perm rooted since rooted phones (even those running the stock ROM), don't get OTA updates. You must have TEMP rooted with Visionary. The only way to truly perm root with Visionary is in conjunction with the root.sh script.
i didn't edit any script past what visionary does... it's probably the equivalent of a temproot, but I don't have to redo it every time I reboot... I haven't touched it in months... I used the unroot function, so I'm not sure if the "run visionary.sh after root" or the "set system r/w after root" were checked... I know jack **** about this stuff, that's why I'm here... lol
this means youre not rooted. so if you want the update just walk in to a tmo store and have them update it with their sd card update.
That's funny.. my superpower, shootme, and TI backup are working... like I said.. I didn't s-off root my phone, but I do have SU privledges
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kevo817 said:
That's funny.. my superpower, shootme, and TI backup are working... like I said.. I didn't s-off root my phone, but I do have SU privledges
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Somehow your temp root is sticking after a reboot. Superpower? It's called Superuser. Sorry, but I LOLed at that.
TeeJay3800 said:
Somehow your temp root is sticking after a reboot. Superpower? It's called Superuser. Sorry, but I LOLed at that.
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SU is stuck too, but the app is called SuperPower... it's a battery management app, but after reading further, root isn't required, just recommended to use all of the features
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/superpower-battery-saving-app-updated/

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