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Anyone else notice the few amount of kernels and ROMs?

I have only seen one kernel.. the one posted here, works nice but are we going to start seeing more?
Same with ROMs.. there's captains, the cyanogen 5 port, which is buggy and then ozzy's. Maybe another one or two that I missed.. I was just wondering if were going to see a lot more start coming in the future? Or are we losing developers to the MOTO x? :/
I know were getting cyanogen 6 in the near future support too
And I'm not saying it has to be froyo.. just an awesome Rom, something new!
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it's still a bit soon.

what exactly are you looking for in a custom kernel? Now that we can flash a custom kernel, really the top things in my opinion are wifi-tether, VPN, undervolt/under/over clock, and thats about it...the rest of kernel pretty much works fine as is.

That's what I keep saying.. I just see the evo forum and they have a ton of stuff and hacks! Lol
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the phone had 3 roms and a kernel up the day it was rooted, and thats not impressive? i think people are forgetting the amount of work it takes to tailor an entire OS to a phone....

I know people are going to reply and say, give it time, root's still hard to come by and the reflash tool, just came out. But unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder the same as you, that the incredible is being passed over in favor of the motorola droid X. Which is a shame, cause I think the incredible's a great phone. Hope it wasn't wrong place wrong time for it, cause I'd love to see a 2.2 cyanogen 6 ROM for it...
<crossing fingers>

andrew53517 said:
That's what I keep saying.. I just see the evo forum and they have a ton of stuff and hacks! Lol
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you cant compare the evo's progression to incredibles. the evo's software was released before the phone was, hence its root being achieved before anyone even had the phone, and the result in more roms and dev for the phone..

Well, I think a few of the problems that we have are that first, the nand is not completely unlocked which is why some haven't started doing a lot of work yet, and second, while there are some excellent devs working and providing support for the Incredible, many devs are shying away from it because it is a CDMA phone and cannot be unlocked quite like a GSM phone. I love Verizon's service but I sure do miss the days of swapping my sim card between several phones.
It's coming though, I'm sure we'll see lots of roms eventually (but the important question is how many will be different).

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I know people are going to reply and say, give it time, root's still hard to come by and the reflash tool, just came out. But unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder the same as you, that the incredible is being passed over in favor of the motorola droid X. Which is a shame, cause I think the incredible's a great phone. Hope it wasn't wrong place wrong time for it, cause I'd love to see a 2.2 cyanogen 6 ROM for it...
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No its been confirmed that were getting cyanogen mod 6 and future releases. So nothing to worry there. Which is probably the best Rom around, but I'd love to see others. That's all. I just hope we don't lose them to the MOTO X which would be ashame.
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Seriously. Give it time its been 1 week.

Things take time - remember of course that there's a smaller userbase (devs included) for the DI than other phones and that the phone's only been rooted a week.
The way I look at it - in a week's time, I've gotten root, I've had a custom recovery, a nandroid backup, wireless tethering, 802.11n networking and an undervoltage kernel to improve battery life. I call that one pretty sweet week

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Probobly because half the people on this forum cant even get root because of finicky SD Cards not allowing the various methods to work

What about themes ? We need more Roms and themes please !
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All I want is cyanogen mod with a decent theme.. preferably darkedge I could care less about the rest..hopefully wiimote will work with it.

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Things take time - remember of course that there's a smaller userbase (devs included) for the DI than other phones and that the phone's only been rooted a week.
The way I look at it - in a week's time, I've gotten root, I've had a custom recovery, a nandroid backup, wireless tethering, 802.11n networking and an undervoltage kernel to improve battery life. I call that one pretty sweet week
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THIS
TBH I am coming from the Hero (waiting...so impatiently for the incredible) and of all the roms, I ended up getting back to the basic root as above here.

rom chasing...
I had a G-1 Dream and the devs were churning out roms right and left. I do remember it starting very slowly at first and 1 or 2 devs. Hero and a couple others. and then everybody and his brother got on board. Same with the ppc apache. Off we went chasing the latest revision of our favorite devs build. It will happen here as well. It seems slow, but we are at the very forefront and on a platform that is a bit more difficult than the dream. Give it time and give yourself some patience. And definatly give these guys your support as they start to churn out a new batch of software. Don't give them a bunch of winy impatient user base that they would end up tiring of developing for and end up feeling that we are ungrateful. Hell I cant even root mine yet and kinda gave up for awhile until an easier, surer way is found and the nand thing is solved. And wow is it so much easier to come in and read the posts and not get so caught up into the hype and the sometimes disappointment involved with this whole process. I chased roms through a few platforms and finally learned to relax and let it happen. What a difference it is from chasing them down...

The Problem with the ROMs is YOU.

You as in me. Me as in us. Us as in everyone here.
In my time here I've begun to notice a trend we all tend to follow. We as a community of Evo 4G owners are already committed to the bleeding edge. By contributing additional time and effort to rooting, romming, and pushing our hardware, we gleefully fling ourselves over that bleeding edge into the dark abyss below.
I've reformatted and wiped my phone completely somewhere north of 200 times. Now I'm to the point where I just want something that works while I focus on other projects. In an effort to find the Holy Grail of "perfect" implementations, I've noticed that it is my own finagling with the distributions that causes instability and poor battery life.
The devs are pretty clear about what the goals of their distributions are, what you can expect, and what happens if you don't read directions. If a rom isn't living up to YOUR expectations, then either you should take inventory of what you expect from a voluntary effort or take up the mantle of cooking your own.
So next time you complain that you are on an AOSP that can't use Sense widgets, a ROM that doesn't have HDMI (and clearly states it in prior to installation) for the 1% of people who think their phone is a VCR, or doesn't get the same battery life as a nuclear submarine; you might want to take these facts into consideration.
Honestly, I know this rant is wasted on those that complain in the rom threads over and over and over again. They've already demonstrated they can't read anyway.
Be kind to our Devs. The last thing any of us needs is them to feel suffocated by our insane demands and to run off screaming into the night. Without them, you'd still all be stuck on an unrooted phone pushing 30 frames per second and getting 14 minutes of talk time before it exploded in your hands.

Well said!

well said indeed.
though i think some feedback is always need as it helps the devs in some ways. I to have noticed a lot of people have moved from feedback to demands. (the damage control rom is a good example of this. they havent put an update out in while. All yuo see when your ead the thread now is hey why isnt there an update we need an update. but when these people are asked what they think needs fixed or what they need in the update ... most just cant tell you. I'm not saying damage control is perfect as is because it isnt. there are new tweaks i am sure they could put in to adjust this or that a little. I just think it is funny how so many are demanding an update for an updates sake in that instance and because there hasnt been one refer to the rom as being dead.)
seems like a lot dont read the op for the rom either and complain. anther example is in evio 1.2 calk switched the home and back buttons function purposely. it says he did in the op and says he feels it works better and provides a zip to revert that change if you dont like it. still tons of posts of people complaining and demanding a fix yet ... its already done and explained its a feature.
sorry thought i would join your rant lol.

Until someone makes a rom with the gbs and the wifis, I reserve the right to complain like a little school girl whose shoes are too tight.

rugedraw said:
Until someone makes a rom with the gbs and the wifis, I reserve the right to complain like a little school girl whose shoes are too tight.
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i want the one with more gbs kthx.

also please remember that its a phone

oh it's always nice to get that rom that "works". but sometimes it's fun to try out a new feature. if you are a constant flasher, time reinstalling is the price you pay. if a person finds themselves constantly flashing, they should make sure they use backup programs to make the process take less time. there are also OTA rom updates now, which were hinted at on WM, but since it's current iteration (6.5.x) is about to be "legacy" soon, i don't think it was made a reality. the demands vs. request thing can get annoying though. maybe an update to the forum rules where such behavior and be reported might be an option. lastly, yes, we understand that some of you paid good money for your phone and don't have a ton of cash, but there are people doing stuff for free that they could keep to themselves. skip a lunch out or a combo meal ONE time, and donate that to someone whose roms you use on a regular basis or a really cool app. if you wrap your head around it, it is reciprocation for the unselfish act these devs are doing.

This thread-full-of-win calls for a toast, a toast with awesome sauce
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hold it...you mean we're supposed to read the whole OP? that's a lot of reading to ask of some folks.

tl;dr
well put

Very well put.
I'll be linking your post in every new "THIS ROM SUCKS / NEEDS THIS / DOESN'T HAVE THIS" thread I see.

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hold it...you mean we're supposed to read the whole OP? that's a lot of reading to ask of some folks.
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Reading???!!! There's an app for that.....

These things make phone calls
I learn something new everyday, now if I could just find a ROM that'll let me do that.

VSack said:
for the 1% of people who think their phone is a VCR
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The reference to a VCR made me laugh hard enough that my wife looked at me like I was crazy.
Good post though. I agree with you. I'm still very new to Android, but I think some people take these things way too far.
I appreciate all of those who put so much time into helping others here, whether they be finding new root exploits, cooking roms, putting together new kernels, or designing new themes, apps, boot animations, etc.
The thing those people need to keep in mind is that the devs aren't doing it for a paycheck. They're doing it because they enjoy it. They just happen to be nice enough to share, so we can enjoy it too.
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your post is to hard to read. what are you talking about.. will you update with new info. oh and then spoon feed it to me cause my browser magically is missing the search button and Google FC's everytime I try to use it.
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Why is the DEV section for the Epic so shi**y?

is it due to not a lot of people having the phone ? inexperienced devs? even the roms that exist have one thing or another that doesnt function properly...there only seems to be one solid rom for sure and the rest are just ehh...just trying to figure this out im coming from a device that had so many roms i didnt know what to do and on this side theres really only 3 or 4 choices. is this a froyo deal?lack of people with the units or what?

My best guess would be most devs are waiting for froyo to drop since it should be soon.

pyroswithoutfire said:
My best guess would be most devs are waiting for froyo to drop since it should be soon.
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i was hoping this was the case

twoeleven99 said:
i was hoping this was the case
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Its tuff to dev something knowing froyo us coming. I started my theme to be used on my rom but decided not to cook a rom. It well be easy to port my theme for use with froyo. A 2.1 rom ported to 2.2 us hard. It would be easier to start from scratch with a froyo build
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twoeleven99 said:
is it due to not a lot of people having the phone ? inexperienced devs? even the roms that exist have one thing or another that doesnt function properly...there only seems to be one solid rom for sure and the rest are just ehh...just trying to figure this out im coming from a device that had so many roms i didnt know what to do and on this side theres really only 3 or 4 choices. is this a froyo deal?lack of people with the units or what?
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Its the same thing that happened with the moment, almost no dev support. 1 because its a Samsung, 2 because it was the second 4g phone, 3 because its $50 more.
The Evo community is thriving though.
Look at the Moment forum on sdx-developers, then look at the Hero forum here on XDA. Same thing for the Epic vs Evo.

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i was just asking a question...thanks for the answers fellas

I really hope people will develop for Epic, I really enjoyed the ROMs on Evo. But I liked this one better, hope I didn't make a big mistake! Oh well, I haven't even rooted this one yet, maybe Ill just give it a rest for a while. I know my wife will like that. Don't mean to insult the devs, you're all we got, just wish more people had this phone.

asapelectric said:
I really hope people will develop for Epic, I really enjoyed the ROMs on Evo. But I liked this one better, hope I didn't make a big mistake! Oh well, I haven't even rooted this one yet, maybe Ill just give it a rest for a while. I know my wife will like that. Don't mean to insult the devs, you're all we got, just wish more people had this phone.
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I concur, in a perfect world this phone (which I am getting tomorrow) would be so great that I wouldn't flash rom after rom for little things such as percentage battery mod or something. I would flash roms because it looked slightly different than the previous. and always felt like something was missing. I hope i can just be satisfied with the roms and such that are available for the Epic.

Don't worry u will have plenty of devving for epic. It will not be as much as evo though as evo has much more devs and is more popular and has been out longer. But we will have quality not quantity and after froyo we will see more devving. Most devs don't wanna waste time if the update is coming in less than a month (hopefully).
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New ROMs....

I'm like a kid in a candy store! I barely get one ROM on my phone and another great one comes out, sometimes from the same developer! It has got to stop! I am flashing ROMs left and right, neglecting work, family ect ect! What a quandary! I think I am an Evoholic! Is there a 12 step program for guys like me?

ejc1214 said:
I'm like a kid in a candy store! I barely get one ROM on my phone and another great one comes out, sometimes from the same developer! It has got to stop! I am flashing ROMs left and right, neglecting work, family ect ect! What a quandary! I think I am an Evoholic! Is there a 12 step program for guys like me?
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Haha I feel your pain bro.
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There is a one step program. Smash your phone and get an iphone and have zero customization.

Its something that is long dying, that at 21 I'm glad I have it, its called willpower.

Cares said:
There is a one step program. Smash your phone and get an iphone and have zero customization.
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Cold turkey indeed.

I do the same thing. I keep telling myself I just want 1 good ROM to flash and let it settle and just use my phone. Then I see something new and shiny and start the process all over again.
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Lol hell I flash my phone so much my girl laughs at me saying I forgot how to use it as a phone
Cyanogenized EVO4g nightly 102

Shoot me first! That would be like choosing a burger with when you have filet mignon already! LOL
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There is a one step program. Smash your phone and get an iphone and have zero customization.
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I do have willpower. I keep telling myself " I can flash one more. I know I can"! LOL
teh roxxorz said:
Its something that is long dying, that at 21 I'm glad I have it, its called willpower.
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All these ROMs are the same ****. Seems like some guy, I mean dev comes along, slaps some dumb name and a boot animation in it and SHAZAM! new "ROM".

What I do is flash cm7 nightlies, so I can flash something new whenever I want, but not really have redo much..

I can quit any time, really I can.

Not all of them are created equal. There are about 3-4 people that are actually doing bases, IMHO, but the rest are more like themers. Still, sometimes it is fun to try a "themer's" version as not all themes play well with each ROM. They can still do way better than I can so I take my hat off to them all!
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All these ROMs are the same ****. Seems like some guy, I mean dev comes along, slaps some dumb name and a boot animation in it and SHAZAM! new "ROM".
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Remember, you can always quit after 'one more time'
And if you didn't try it that one more time you'd always wonder 'what if' and live a life of regret . Do you really want that ?!!

The Jero said:
All these ROMs are the same ****. Seems like some guy, I mean dev comes along, slaps some dumb name and a boot animation in it and SHAZAM! new "ROM".
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Try my ROM, it's not the same ****, I bet
Tower, this is SkyRaider requesting a flyby...

What is an iPhone? Is it like the Evo?
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The Jero said:
All these ROMs are the same ****. Seems like some guy, I mean dev comes along, slaps some dumb name and a boot animation in it and SHAZAM! new "ROM".
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The Jero said:
All these ROMs are the same ****. Seems like some guy, I mean dev comes along, slaps some dumb name and a boot animation in it and SHAZAM! new "ROM".
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I agree that so many of them are the same aside from some minor theming. And many are way less stable (and slower) than stock! I have settled on stock (with bloat removed by myself) and it honestly has the best stability and battery life so far. I have probably tried 15 different Evo ROMs over time, and each has it's issues, be it battery life, crashing apps, losing connevtivity, etc. I apprecuate the work that the devs put into it (for free!) but it rarely pays off for me. Stripped down stock simply works best for my phones (despite the dubious speed test scores...)
Anyway, rest assured that you will soon have an Evo 3D with a whole new set of ROMs to try ;-)

LOL!! MY roommate bought my old Moment, that was rooted and setup with my ROM, and he didn't know squat about Rooting, etc.
Now, every time I see him on his computer, he's all over SDX-Developers Moment section.....
Another flashaholic is born!

I had to slow down from flashing roms after awhile. Was going to sleep late every night!

[Q] Most complete CM7 based ROM?

Sorry for not spending a huge amount of time researching this, guys. It's not for me.
I'm a flash-a-holic and my friend has your phone model and needs a new ROM installed on it. So I get one shot at this. I won't be "supporting" her phone and flashing nightlies all the time.
CyanogenMOD's site says that CM7 is officially supported, so that's what I'm considering flashing for her. It looks like there are a few threads based on it and many of the dev's have since discontinued support.
Can you guys point me to the most complete/stable CM7 based ROM out there?
I don't want CM9 or CM10 based ROM's because based on what research I have done, those still have some important things broken. Like camcorder or Netflix or 4g, etc.
This needs to be a "Flash once and be done with it" type of deal.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not after the "most popular" or "coolest" ROM. Because I know all ROM's are a WIP and Dev's improve on things daily. I just want the CM7 build that has the least amount of items broken.

CZ Eddie said:
Sorry for not spending a huge amount of time researching this, guys. It's not for me.
I'm a flash-a-holic and my friend has your phone model and needs a new ROM installed on it. So I get one shot at this. I won't be "supporting" her phone and flashing nightlies all the time.
CyanogenMOD's site says that CM7 is officially supported, so that's what I'm considering flashing for her. It looks like there are a few threads based on it and many of the dev's have since discontinued support.
Can you guys point me to the most complete/stable CM7 based ROM out there?
I don't want CM9 or CM10 based ROM's because based on what research I have done, those still have some important things broken. Like camcorder or Netflix or 4g, etc.
This needs to be a "Flash once and be done with it" type of deal.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not after the "most popular" or "coolest" ROM. Because I know all ROM's are a WIP and Dev's improve on things daily. I just want the CM7 build that has the least amount of items broken.
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Most roms are perfect our darn close, I would check out decks reloaded.
Blazin Fast Reloaded OG

Reloaded.

Thanks, Guys! I just found that one a few minutes ago and was getting ready to read through it!

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Thanks, Guys! I just found that one a few minutes ago and was getting ready to read through it!
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Reloaded. Its super smooth. If you only have one shot and wont be supporting, I'd recommend reading into cod tweaks. The updated settings should be linked somewhere in the thread.
And also go to advanced setting/display and make sure screen on/off is checked. Without it, you may have issue waking phone from time to time.
That's about the only "issue" I've ran into on reloaded. Fix that and its smooth sailing out of the box.
If she wants the ics look at all, download Holo launcher (free). Paired with the built in ics cm7 theme it'll look strikingly close.
Good luck

I'll second that. Below is a screenshot from my phone, and I'd say it is indeed striking. Yes, this is reloaded:
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Anyways, however you theme it, it's completely solid and once it's set up it runs forever, no drama. Sounds ideal for the situation the OP describes.
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I'll second that. Below is a screenshot from my phone, and I'd say it is indeed striking. Yes, this is reloaded:
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Anyways, however you theme it, it's completely solid and once it's set up it runs forever, no drama. Sounds ideal for the situation the OP describes.
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+1 to that bro

Well if were sharing screen shots...

First of all questions go in the q&a (that's question and answer) section. That's usually where you put questions that you want answers to
Second you should search around and notice that any thread asking which rom is best gets shut down asap as its all opinion and you should figure out on your own and make your own opinion.
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