Why is the DEV section for the Epic so shi**y? - Epic 4G General

is it due to not a lot of people having the phone ? inexperienced devs? even the roms that exist have one thing or another that doesnt function properly...there only seems to be one solid rom for sure and the rest are just ehh...just trying to figure this out im coming from a device that had so many roms i didnt know what to do and on this side theres really only 3 or 4 choices. is this a froyo deal?lack of people with the units or what?

My best guess would be most devs are waiting for froyo to drop since it should be soon.

pyroswithoutfire said:
My best guess would be most devs are waiting for froyo to drop since it should be soon.
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i was hoping this was the case

twoeleven99 said:
i was hoping this was the case
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Its tuff to dev something knowing froyo us coming. I started my theme to be used on my rom but decided not to cook a rom. It well be easy to port my theme for use with froyo. A 2.1 rom ported to 2.2 us hard. It would be easier to start from scratch with a froyo build
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twoeleven99 said:
is it due to not a lot of people having the phone ? inexperienced devs? even the roms that exist have one thing or another that doesnt function properly...there only seems to be one solid rom for sure and the rest are just ehh...just trying to figure this out im coming from a device that had so many roms i didnt know what to do and on this side theres really only 3 or 4 choices. is this a froyo deal?lack of people with the units or what?
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Its the same thing that happened with the moment, almost no dev support. 1 because its a Samsung, 2 because it was the second 4g phone, 3 because its $50 more.
The Evo community is thriving though.
Look at the Moment forum on sdx-developers, then look at the Hero forum here on XDA. Same thing for the Epic vs Evo.

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i was just asking a question...thanks for the answers fellas

I really hope people will develop for Epic, I really enjoyed the ROMs on Evo. But I liked this one better, hope I didn't make a big mistake! Oh well, I haven't even rooted this one yet, maybe Ill just give it a rest for a while. I know my wife will like that. Don't mean to insult the devs, you're all we got, just wish more people had this phone.

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I really hope people will develop for Epic, I really enjoyed the ROMs on Evo. But I liked this one better, hope I didn't make a big mistake! Oh well, I haven't even rooted this one yet, maybe Ill just give it a rest for a while. I know my wife will like that. Don't mean to insult the devs, you're all we got, just wish more people had this phone.
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I concur, in a perfect world this phone (which I am getting tomorrow) would be so great that I wouldn't flash rom after rom for little things such as percentage battery mod or something. I would flash roms because it looked slightly different than the previous. and always felt like something was missing. I hope i can just be satisfied with the roms and such that are available for the Epic.

Don't worry u will have plenty of devving for epic. It will not be as much as evo though as evo has much more devs and is more popular and has been out longer. But we will have quality not quantity and after froyo we will see more devving. Most devs don't wanna waste time if the update is coming in less than a month (hopefully).
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Wow, really?

Gingerbread is lurking and no one has leaked it yet?. I'm going to go ahead and say "no balls". I double dog dare one of you to leak it. How about that?
This N1 has been like crack since the 2.1 update 1 leak, but I'm just getting bored now. So what if you lose you high paying job, with your nap time and your free child care. I NEED MY LEAKS!
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Done.
How to flash this? Will I get it OTA? Could you please provide a link?
</gingerbread leak>
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Gingerbread is lurking and no one has leaked it yet?. I'm going to go ahead and say "no balls". I double dog dare one of you to leak it. How about that?
This N1 has been like crack since the 2.1 update 1 leak, but I'm just getting bored now. So what if you lose you high paying job, with your nap time and your free child care. I NEED MY LEAKS!
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a real gingerbread leak. this one wasnt meant to get out into the public http://twitgoo.com/1pxims
Ok, somehow I don't think google is going to put that on their lawn.

			
				
Poor GB was leaking before he even hit the bed.
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This N1 has been like crack since the 2.1 update 1 leak, but I'm just getting bored now.
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I actually love how Google is keeping the surprise element of Gingerbread intact without any real leaks. I hope they don't allow a single substantial leak until the day of ota updating since I HATE feeling like a crack addicted donkey following a dangling carrot
We better get used to less updates anyways and be happy with our N1's as is without needing updates to keep us happy. Andy himself was saying that Android will eventually be just a once a year update: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/01/andy-rubin-android-updates-year/
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http://www.gldrush98.com/uploads/epic_picard.jpg
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This picture just can't descripe it..
evilkorn said:
Done.
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Rule 34 cannot be denied.
glwinkler said:
Gingerbread is lurking and no one has leaked it yet?. I'm going to go ahead and say "no balls". I double dog dare one of you to leak it. How about that?
This N1 has been like crack since the 2.1 update 1 leak, but I'm just getting bored now. So what if you lose you high paying job, with your nap time and your free child care. I NEED MY LEAKS!
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Worry not, Football never disappoints
khaytsus said:
Rule 34 cannot be denied.
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Fixed.
The line just got cut a few days ago, wait a week until they start testing the n1 branch for it to leak.
if i recall correctly the froyo rom leaks didnt start until after froyo was announced.
by that logic im fairly sure it will take a few weeks to leak (if google follows the same weird update pattern it did last time.)
im fairly sure the nexus one branch has been in development for a while now, because the OS is finalized on the nexus (feature set wise). after the announcement the major optimization is done, and thats usually why there are several leaked copies of slightly different semi-final builds.
I'm not gonna get into it again(I already did during froyo release), but the android line isn't developed FOR the n1, it's developed primarily WITH the n1.
There's nothing N1 specific when they are doing feature sets. The Google Phone team does have an early heads up, but so does Moto, and Samsung, and just about all the big boys in the OHA.
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Done.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!Good one!!!

[ATTN] Sense 2.1 coming for Hero?

HTC Wildfire S
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HVGA
Android 2.3
HTC Sense 2.1
woah, could well happen if some talented dev gets hold of it
The specs of this do match the Hero pretty well, although I doubt the camera will ever work. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
If i don't manage to sell my hero until this one is launched, I'm all with you guys
radu you are a god! haha
if you could do this it would be incredible!
I cant wait
Here is compare to this two phones http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3777&idPhone2=2861
Here's to hoping there is a newer kernel in this one that may be of use to reimer...
Lol
Thats one rubbish little phone, not bad for a starter android, but HTC really did let me down this year, as my upgrade falls in april when all the new handsets came out, looks like its the Atrix or some other 2 core CPU,
Back on track, Yes the specs do look a lot like are little heros, a part from the better screen, and slight bump in cpu and ram, not much diffent, hopefully it will be ported, thing is, iv not used sense for ages since late 2.1 roms, and not sure if it will slow down are cpu/ram.
Also a lower battry at Li-Ion 1230 mAh are heros is Li-Ion 1350 mAh,
But hopefully im wrong !!!
Another issue I thought of aside from the camera might be the software, it's probably designed to utilise the extra RAM, like that Gratia/Legend port Sense might close after opening a resource intensive app. With some luck and skill from a talented Dev this can probably be sorted, I think.
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The tittle of this topic is well not logical, I thought it ment sense rom android version 2.1 XD maybe change it to sense rom 2.3, or something. I really though, another last year bumped topic XD
sorry but hero is using sense 2.0?i thought it's 2.1
Sense version <> Android version
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rdejager said:
The tittle of this topic is well not logical, I thought it ment sense rom android version 2.1 XD maybe change it to sense rom 2.3, or something. I really though, another last year bumped topic XD
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Pot, meet Kettle.
If you read it and check the spec on the first post you can clearly se its sense 2.1 ANDROID 2.3
Shouldnt we be trying to get devs or help devs get the camera going for sense 2.2 before we try sense on 2.3......
Aaaand it's here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974481
Have anyone tried it yet?
I'm trying to flash it.. but it's really really slow when it's copying files...
Hmm... Seems the system-partition is too small..
mljjlm said:
Have anyone tried it yet?
I'm trying to flash it.. but it's really really slow when it's copying files...
Hmm... Seems the system-partition is too small..
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You could notice it is for "Desire" and for "Hero"
kabadahija said:
You could notice it is for "Desire" and for "Hero"
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Pretty sure it's from the "Wildfire S"-dump that means mdpi, and with a hero-kernel I thought I might have a shot, but I dont know how to repartition the internal memory, as the system-partition isn't big enough..
Wll if the system partition is not big enough, you want to install that on the SDcard? that would make the system pretty unstable if you ask me.
I only have a class-2 2GB sd-card, so I don't think that it would be a good idea

The X8 is not getting 2.2 or 2.3

It's official, the X8 will not be getting any android updates whatsoever beyond 2.1
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xda's good developers.., we're counting on you!
But why??? WHY ????? OMG!!!
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But why??? WHY ????? OMG!!!
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No idea, ask sony phaggyson, I guess they think cheap phones with great hardware that are more than capable of running 2.3 still wont get them good money even if they update it..
fkn companies, this thing is way better than the wildfire i can't get my head around why they don't wanna update it.
You're a bit late there.
You can use a custom ROM (for example the Racht's ones) to upgrade your OS Android to 2.2 or 2.3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914513
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
That's actually quite absurd! Bad idea Sony!
Custom ROM has some bugs so it is not fully FROYO and GINGERBREAD but it is in evolve so we will have good custom ROMs in future but BE PATIENT!
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umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
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Can you tell me which bin it's in? I'll go pick it up...
Troute said:
Can you tell me which bin it's in? I'll go pick it up...
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Haha! Now you will get a fine for throwing your phone in the bin It's not environmentally friendly
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Phone with lower CPU can have froyo installed on it. X8 should be sufficient running froyo, either it cost lot of money to support X8 or SE think why should support 'old' series when they can make money from new one with upgrade OS.
mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
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Good for you!
I wanna sell this piece of $hit used before it gets any cheaper and save for a wildfire.
mohakrastogi said:
umm.....i threw my phone today in trash....
feeling relaxed!!
in future...i will never buy another SE product!
Goin to buy HD7 or any Nokia+Microsoft product...
but Android/SE.....
NEVER AGAIN!!
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I agree. This was my first smartphone, so I had no idea what I was getting; I just wanted a dirt cheap android phone I could mess around with. With all the mods, hacks, and especially racht's custom ROMs (I couldn't believe how crappy the stock ROM was compared to those) I've been able to experiment with, I have a much better idea of what I want out of my next android phone and what it will be capable of. As for SE, you're right: never again.
Agreed. I've just installed my first ROM (2.2.1 CM HACKDROID v0.12) on my X8 and there is no way i am going back to the original!! Works great apart from a few setbacks like vibration not working, unable to move apps to SD and locks on its own sometimes while i'm using it. But having said that it's still much better than the stock OS!!
hey mister, where did you got the screen shoot? can you provide a link? why rather give a screen shot either than link?
if it is true, i will never by SE product anymore, i will rather choose I-Phone 4 either than xperia x8
Thinking of getting this.
using rcht's rom... its awesome!!!

Petition: ZenExp Rev8 to be Re-opened

Ok, I've been waiting for this rom to be released and finding out that it was canned due to lack of interest. If enough votes we can get this rom reopened and released. This rom needs to be released so it can break the monotony of the Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms thats out there. ZenExp rev 7 was beautiful and I can't even imagine how Rev 8 would look like.
Please vote to have this roms released. Thank you.
P.S. I don't know no other way to state my vote, maybe by typing "please release"
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Ok, I've been waiting for this rom to be released and finding out that it was canned due to lack of interest. If enough votes we can get this rom reopened and released. This rom needs to be released so it can break the monotony of the Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms thats out there. ZenExp rev 7 was beautiful and I can't even imagine how Rev 8 would look like.
Please vote to have this roms released. Thank you.
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Got a link to an old thread or pics or anything on ZenExp so we can see what your talking about?
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Got a link to an old thread or pics or anything on ZenExp so we can see what your talking about?
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here's a pic of the zenexp rev7. Now imagine this updated but better with more than 10 themes. It'll be awesome. We need to encourage the developer to finish this project.
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looks good id like to rev8
Me too ..
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i would like to see this reopened.
Yes! I was on this for a year, and I had to finally move on -- one of the saddest days of my life. I would love to see Rev8!
Yea I'll vote even though Im on a Dinc now. I still have my Eris laying around enjoying its retired life. Could have made a poll to go with your thread.
DINC|CM7|INCREDIKERNEL
This was one of my favorite roms. I use xtrSENSE now. The froyo and gingerbread roms are alright. I just don't really care for them. The sense based roms run so much smoother on my phone. I would love to see this reopened. I would definitely rock it.
Excellent people, keep it coming. We need to let MAK know that we love his work. GB is great but there are too many roms that look the same. I use now GSB and go back and forth with xtrSense/xtrRom. I would love to see this released. It'll be my everyday rom.
If this comes out I wouldn't get another phone. All these phones coming out with different UI and downloadable 3d ui's that the Eris can't handle. But if this comes out I'll be more than satified.
Hm, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not sure I see whats so appealing about that UI. Hopefully this doesn't sound like I'm trying to rag on your idea, I'm not, trust me.
Are there any screenshots laying around that "show it off" a little better?
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Hm, maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not sure I see whats so appealing about that UI. Hopefully this doesn't sound like I'm trying to rag on your idea, I'm not, trust me.
Are there any screenshots laying around that "show it off" a little better?
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Its not my work, but somebody elses. Its simple and different from all those Gingerbread roms (they are all so plain). At least this rom has some themes that are appealing.
You may look on this thread on the 5th page for the zenexp rev7 to get an idea and some more info. but its the same screen shots I posted.
The reason they are plain is for u to
Do what u want with them... I find that when I add something people want less
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The reason they are plain is for u to
Do what u want with them... I find that when I add something people want less
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I had a feeling it was for people to create their own. I just noticed that with all the CM7 themes. they look awesome.

Lets Choose =D and Vote~ Version 2.0

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Because... well, why the hell not?
But let's change the core idea a little. Instead of picking which rom you think is the best, just vote for which ever rom you are using right now. After all, if you don't like the rom you probably won't be using it.
And as for all those haters out there, I actually think this kind of poll is good for the developers. Companies hold polls all the times to compare competing products. It's a good way to see how well you are doing against your friends and rivals. Furthermore, a low popularity doesn't mean your ROM is bad. It might just be that you are relatively new to the scene, or perhaps your users simply don't venture to the dark corner of the universe called "General".
So vote on people! The results should be quite interesting.
P.S. Only roms listed in the [ROM LIST] thread are on this poll. So I apologise if your rom is missing from the poll. Go blame it on splish2010 instead
now this is what is called a competition
The highest score is going to be the one that must numptys use and the one that breaks most phones .Never answers users help posts left to fend for themselves or waste others time answering .
Not the best rom though how can anyone judge best beats me .
jje
JJEgan said:
The highest score is going to be the one that must numptys use and the one that breaks most phones .Never answers users help posts left to fend for themselves or waste others time answering .
Not the best rom though how can anyone judge best beats me .
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well, right now Stock firmware is leading. So all of your assumptions you made are correct - Samsung seldom answers us.
JJEgan said:
The highest score is going to be the one that must numptys use and the one that breaks most phones .Never answers users help posts left to fend for themselves or waste others time answering .
Not the best rom though how can anyone judge best beats me .
jje
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Bargepole?
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snapper.fishes said:
well, right now Stock firmware is leading. So all of your assumptions you made are correct - Samsung seldom answers us.
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With ROM kitchen leading i guess most votes are coming from Froyo users.
For Gingerbread there's plenty of better options than (beta) kitchen right now...
This topic should be 2 separate votes: 2.2 and 2.3
I like Tweaky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059561
zerozoneice said:
With ROM kitchen leading i guess most votes are coming from Froyo users.
For Gingerbread there's plenty of better options than (beta) kitchen right now...
This topic should be 2 separate votes: 2.2 and 2.3
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Perhaps. But once ROM kitchen Gingerbread goes out of beta, most of the froyo users will probably upgrade to Gingerbread. So the results are still relevant.
chrisbrueser said:
I like Tweaky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059561
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It's too late to change the poll options now.
Voted. GingerReal because of it's speed ofcourse
Wonder what I woted
i'm on darky 9.5 now, but i'm thinking of going back to miui, because its just so awesome.
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Wonder what I woted
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Don't know. I think you need to give us more hints.
RomKitchen ROM ofc ;-)
GoaTrip! Running V1.9
chrisbrueser said:
I like Tweaky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059561
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I am using Tweaky too, but it isn't included in the poll, why not?
Can't vote for something that isn't there!
Tweaky here also.

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