You as in me. Me as in us. Us as in everyone here.
In my time here I've begun to notice a trend we all tend to follow. We as a community of Evo 4G owners are already committed to the bleeding edge. By contributing additional time and effort to rooting, romming, and pushing our hardware, we gleefully fling ourselves over that bleeding edge into the dark abyss below.
I've reformatted and wiped my phone completely somewhere north of 200 times. Now I'm to the point where I just want something that works while I focus on other projects. In an effort to find the Holy Grail of "perfect" implementations, I've noticed that it is my own finagling with the distributions that causes instability and poor battery life.
The devs are pretty clear about what the goals of their distributions are, what you can expect, and what happens if you don't read directions. If a rom isn't living up to YOUR expectations, then either you should take inventory of what you expect from a voluntary effort or take up the mantle of cooking your own.
So next time you complain that you are on an AOSP that can't use Sense widgets, a ROM that doesn't have HDMI (and clearly states it in prior to installation) for the 1% of people who think their phone is a VCR, or doesn't get the same battery life as a nuclear submarine; you might want to take these facts into consideration.
Honestly, I know this rant is wasted on those that complain in the rom threads over and over and over again. They've already demonstrated they can't read anyway.
Be kind to our Devs. The last thing any of us needs is them to feel suffocated by our insane demands and to run off screaming into the night. Without them, you'd still all be stuck on an unrooted phone pushing 30 frames per second and getting 14 minutes of talk time before it exploded in your hands.
Well said!
well said indeed.
though i think some feedback is always need as it helps the devs in some ways. I to have noticed a lot of people have moved from feedback to demands. (the damage control rom is a good example of this. they havent put an update out in while. All yuo see when your ead the thread now is hey why isnt there an update we need an update. but when these people are asked what they think needs fixed or what they need in the update ... most just cant tell you. I'm not saying damage control is perfect as is because it isnt. there are new tweaks i am sure they could put in to adjust this or that a little. I just think it is funny how so many are demanding an update for an updates sake in that instance and because there hasnt been one refer to the rom as being dead.)
seems like a lot dont read the op for the rom either and complain. anther example is in evio 1.2 calk switched the home and back buttons function purposely. it says he did in the op and says he feels it works better and provides a zip to revert that change if you dont like it. still tons of posts of people complaining and demanding a fix yet ... its already done and explained its a feature.
sorry thought i would join your rant lol.
Until someone makes a rom with the gbs and the wifis, I reserve the right to complain like a little school girl whose shoes are too tight.
rugedraw said:
Until someone makes a rom with the gbs and the wifis, I reserve the right to complain like a little school girl whose shoes are too tight.
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i want the one with more gbs kthx.
also please remember that its a phone
oh it's always nice to get that rom that "works". but sometimes it's fun to try out a new feature. if you are a constant flasher, time reinstalling is the price you pay. if a person finds themselves constantly flashing, they should make sure they use backup programs to make the process take less time. there are also OTA rom updates now, which were hinted at on WM, but since it's current iteration (6.5.x) is about to be "legacy" soon, i don't think it was made a reality. the demands vs. request thing can get annoying though. maybe an update to the forum rules where such behavior and be reported might be an option. lastly, yes, we understand that some of you paid good money for your phone and don't have a ton of cash, but there are people doing stuff for free that they could keep to themselves. skip a lunch out or a combo meal ONE time, and donate that to someone whose roms you use on a regular basis or a really cool app. if you wrap your head around it, it is reciprocation for the unselfish act these devs are doing.
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hold it...you mean we're supposed to read the whole OP? that's a lot of reading to ask of some folks.
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well put
Very well put.
I'll be linking your post in every new "THIS ROM SUCKS / NEEDS THIS / DOESN'T HAVE THIS" thread I see.
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hold it...you mean we're supposed to read the whole OP? that's a lot of reading to ask of some folks.
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Reading???!!! There's an app for that.....
These things make phone calls
I learn something new everyday, now if I could just find a ROM that'll let me do that.
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for the 1% of people who think their phone is a VCR
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The reference to a VCR made me laugh hard enough that my wife looked at me like I was crazy.
Good post though. I agree with you. I'm still very new to Android, but I think some people take these things way too far.
I appreciate all of those who put so much time into helping others here, whether they be finding new root exploits, cooking roms, putting together new kernels, or designing new themes, apps, boot animations, etc.
The thing those people need to keep in mind is that the devs aren't doing it for a paycheck. They're doing it because they enjoy it. They just happen to be nice enough to share, so we can enjoy it too.
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your post is to hard to read. what are you talking about.. will you update with new info. oh and then spoon feed it to me cause my browser magically is missing the search button and Google FC's everytime I try to use it.
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People Repost The Same Thing Everyday We Got The Point I Can Leave Town And Travel The World Get Another Degree And The Same Thing Are On Here Then When I See Some Threads Other Post Like "what Carrying Case You Use To Carry A Tilt Phone " They Dont Close It Crazy S**t!
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People Repost The Same Thing Everyday We Got The Point I Can Leave Town And Travel The World Get Another Degree And The Same Thing Are On Here Then When I See Some Threads Other Post Like "what Carrying Case You Use To Carry A Tilt Phone " They Dont Close It Crazy S**t!
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what was the point of this thread....especially in the development and hacking section, off topic, discussion...just about anywhere else i would have understood, but what was the point.....
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People Repost The Same Thing Everyday We Got The Point I Can Leave Town And Travel The World Get Another Degree And The Same Thing Are On Here Then When I See Some Threads Other Post Like "what Carrying Case You Use To Carry A Tilt Phone " They Dont Close It Crazy S**t!
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Each forum has its own grounds for topics. So if someone wanted to know about the Tilt case, they would have to ask in the Tilt Accessories forum, or the General Accessories forum. We all just like to see some sort of orginization around here. Which are the reasons for certain threads, like the two stickys here in Development & Hacking. BTW this thread will probably be closed soon. I suggest not posting anymore new threads like this, you may get a temp ban.
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because those users post in the appropriate place.
not in dev and hacking..
but once again.
jay22s said:
But They Posted That S*** In Here Phone Case
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Whats the thread?
Perhaps your post is *not* in the correct forum, but I do agree with you. Not on, say, the Tilt case... But I have noticed that there really has been nothing REALLY new as of since what wm 6.0? I mean SPB shell and iFonz, and and others I haven't tried *ARE* good apps, and need updates posted, but as for something totally phonechanging, (like I was hoping for the ati 3D driver for my hermes) you probably just aren't going to see it. Also I appreciate your sarcasmic humour! Nice at 4:15 AM coming into work. hehe
BTW temp ban? Thats a little harsh isn't it?
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People Repost The Same Thing Everyday We Got The Point I Can Leave Town And Travel The World Get Another Degree And The Same Thing Are On Here Then When I See Some Threads Other Post Like "what Carrying Case You Use To Carry A Tilt Phone " They Dont Close It Crazy S**t!
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I'm guessing your first degree wasn't in punctuation?
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Perhaps your post is *not* in the correct forum, but I do agree with you. Not on, say, the Tilt case... But I have noticed that there really has been nothing REALLY new as of since what wm 6.0? I mean SPB shell and iFonz, and and others I haven't tried *ARE* good apps, and need updates posted, but as for something totally phonechanging, (like I was hoping for the ati 3D driver for my hermes) you probably just aren't going to see it. Also I appreciate your sarcasmic humour! Nice at 4:15 AM coming into work. hehe
BTW temp ban? Thats a little harsh isn't it?
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You want to unleash something ground breaking? I don't see you developing anything new and improved. So what if most posts are updating other programs.
And to the OP stop capitalizing the first letter of every word, it fkin hurts my eyes.
I've offered plenty of times to help out some of my device's main cooks with rom application development but no one has ever taken me up. I'm now a 30 year old father of a 2 year old. I've already developed a complete freeware software application for car computers called MediaEngine (.org) and I just don't have it in me anymore to create something from the ground up. If anyone wants a freelance VB programmer to look at their code and come up with improvements though, hey I'm all for it. Also, I did state that current programs need posts with their updates.
BTW I'm not meaning to complain, I just long for the experience I had when I first installed a ROM and upgraded my phone from boring to wow.
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BTW temp ban? Thats a little harsh isn't it?
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You missed the first thread that he started and was closed within 15 minutes, then about 5 minutes after closing, this thread popped up. So, no it's not harsh, and I really wouldn't be surprised.
I have only seen one kernel.. the one posted here, works nice but are we going to start seeing more?
Same with ROMs.. there's captains, the cyanogen 5 port, which is buggy and then ozzy's. Maybe another one or two that I missed.. I was just wondering if were going to see a lot more start coming in the future? Or are we losing developers to the MOTO x? :/
I know were getting cyanogen 6 in the near future support too
And I'm not saying it has to be froyo.. just an awesome Rom, something new!
Droid Incredible Rooted!
it's still a bit soon.
what exactly are you looking for in a custom kernel? Now that we can flash a custom kernel, really the top things in my opinion are wifi-tether, VPN, undervolt/under/over clock, and thats about it...the rest of kernel pretty much works fine as is.
That's what I keep saying.. I just see the evo forum and they have a ton of stuff and hacks! Lol
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the phone had 3 roms and a kernel up the day it was rooted, and thats not impressive? i think people are forgetting the amount of work it takes to tailor an entire OS to a phone....
I know people are going to reply and say, give it time, root's still hard to come by and the reflash tool, just came out. But unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder the same as you, that the incredible is being passed over in favor of the motorola droid X. Which is a shame, cause I think the incredible's a great phone. Hope it wasn't wrong place wrong time for it, cause I'd love to see a 2.2 cyanogen 6 ROM for it...
<crossing fingers>
andrew53517 said:
That's what I keep saying.. I just see the evo forum and they have a ton of stuff and hacks! Lol
Droid Incredible Rooted!
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you cant compare the evo's progression to incredibles. the evo's software was released before the phone was, hence its root being achieved before anyone even had the phone, and the result in more roms and dev for the phone..
Well, I think a few of the problems that we have are that first, the nand is not completely unlocked which is why some haven't started doing a lot of work yet, and second, while there are some excellent devs working and providing support for the Incredible, many devs are shying away from it because it is a CDMA phone and cannot be unlocked quite like a GSM phone. I love Verizon's service but I sure do miss the days of swapping my sim card between several phones.
It's coming though, I'm sure we'll see lots of roms eventually (but the important question is how many will be different).
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I know people are going to reply and say, give it time, root's still hard to come by and the reflash tool, just came out. But unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder the same as you, that the incredible is being passed over in favor of the motorola droid X. Which is a shame, cause I think the incredible's a great phone. Hope it wasn't wrong place wrong time for it, cause I'd love to see a 2.2 cyanogen 6 ROM for it...
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No its been confirmed that were getting cyanogen mod 6 and future releases. So nothing to worry there. Which is probably the best Rom around, but I'd love to see others. That's all. I just hope we don't lose them to the MOTO X which would be ashame.
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Seriously. Give it time its been 1 week.
Things take time - remember of course that there's a smaller userbase (devs included) for the DI than other phones and that the phone's only been rooted a week.
The way I look at it - in a week's time, I've gotten root, I've had a custom recovery, a nandroid backup, wireless tethering, 802.11n networking and an undervoltage kernel to improve battery life. I call that one pretty sweet week
Thread cleaned up. Please keep it civilized.
Probobly because half the people on this forum cant even get root because of finicky SD Cards not allowing the various methods to work
What about themes ? We need more Roms and themes please !
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All I want is cyanogen mod with a decent theme.. preferably darkedge I could care less about the rest..hopefully wiimote will work with it.
giantcrazy said:
Things take time - remember of course that there's a smaller userbase (devs included) for the DI than other phones and that the phone's only been rooted a week.
The way I look at it - in a week's time, I've gotten root, I've had a custom recovery, a nandroid backup, wireless tethering, 802.11n networking and an undervoltage kernel to improve battery life. I call that one pretty sweet week
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THIS
TBH I am coming from the Hero (waiting...so impatiently for the incredible) and of all the roms, I ended up getting back to the basic root as above here.
rom chasing...
I had a G-1 Dream and the devs were churning out roms right and left. I do remember it starting very slowly at first and 1 or 2 devs. Hero and a couple others. and then everybody and his brother got on board. Same with the ppc apache. Off we went chasing the latest revision of our favorite devs build. It will happen here as well. It seems slow, but we are at the very forefront and on a platform that is a bit more difficult than the dream. Give it time and give yourself some patience. And definatly give these guys your support as they start to churn out a new batch of software. Don't give them a bunch of winy impatient user base that they would end up tiring of developing for and end up feeling that we are ungrateful. Hell I cant even root mine yet and kinda gave up for awhile until an easier, surer way is found and the nand thing is solved. And wow is it so much easier to come in and read the posts and not get so caught up into the hype and the sometimes disappointment involved with this whole process. I chased roms through a few platforms and finally learned to relax and let it happen. What a difference it is from chasing them down...
Thought I would just present some feedback on what I am seeing with some of the builds. Whilst both amazing and really cool there are a few basic considerations.
As close as possible to full functionality.
Whilst the latest ACE/Desire roms are way sexy it is a bit frustrating to find out 90% of the new Roms are using this and there is no camera. I use this feature a lot.
Whilst the old Sense was a little more plain it certainly worked and delivered more functionality. Across the board.
PPP versus RMNET.
100% for 80% of the time is not as good as 70% all of the time. Whilst RMNET was clunky and a hack it was reliable and worked 100% of the time. All the new builds are dropping RMNET for PPP which for a number of people is simple a loss of functionality.
I currently use Froystone 3.1 with a latter Hastarin kernel. This with the use of GPS status tool gives me
Almost instant GPS access.
Working and accurate compass
G-Sensor is working
Camera is quick and works.
Internet is great but a little unreliable.
Sense. Actually like it.
If I had a choice the only thing I would do is drop back to RMNET for reliability.
Can't wait to see the flames
Flame flame flame!!!!!!
Flame +1 somebody please!!!!
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Some people just never learn. This belongs in the discussion forum. Please read before you post. No one here really cares what one person wants. If your wants are that bad then by all means, "cook it ".
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Grow a pair. If you don't like it, go back to WM 6.5.
Simple as that.
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...100% for 80% of the time is not as good as 70% all of the time...
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You are stating already the obvious dude! I'm going to go root my moto cliq xt dammit! LOL
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You are stating already the obvious dude! I'm going to go root my moto cliq xt dammit! LOL
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lmfao! really with 297 posts nd doesnt learn..sad sad
i love you guys!
phonephixer said:
Some people just never learn. This belongs in the discussion forum. Please read before you post. No one here really cares what one person wants. If your wants are that bad then by all means, "cook it ".
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Could not of said it better myself!
If only there were some devs working on kernels for these issues in this forum.....
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Hehe that's hillarious
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You are stating already the obvious dude! I'm going to go root my moto cliq xt dammit! LOL
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Hey, when you root your XT, would you mind doing me a favor?
ill assume you will run one of the 2, 2.1 roms out, adlx and barely blurred.
g-sensor works, however in the game 'furdiburb' the virtual pet. the g-sensor no longer works.
(if you arent familiar with the app, on first load, he is in egg. tilt phone, egg should rock back and forth)
just trying to figure out if this is a glitch on my phone. or an artifact of the builds themselves.
id really appreciate it if you wouldnt mind helping me out.
thanks!!!!!
use coredroid v0.5
dusty_nz said:
Thought I would just present some feedback on what I am seeing with some of the builds. Whilst both amazing and really cool there are a few basic considerations.
As close as possible to full functionality.
Whilst the latest ACE/Desire roms are way sexy it is a bit frustrating to find out 90% of the new Roms are using this and there is no camera. I use this feature a lot.
Whilst the old Sense was a little more plain it certainly worked and delivered more functionality. Across the board.
PPP versus RMNET.
100% for 80% of the time is not as good as 70% all of the time. Whilst RMNET was clunky and a hack it was reliable and worked 100% of the time. All the new builds are dropping RMNET for PPP which for a number of people is simple a loss of functionality.
I currently use Froystone 3.1 with a latter Hastarin kernel. This with the use of GPS status tool gives me
Almost instant GPS access.
Working and accurate compass
G-Sensor is working
Camera is quick and works.
Internet is great but a little unreliable.
Sense. Actually like it.
If I had a choice the only thing I would do is drop back to RMNET for reliability.
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Actually, I think what he is writing is a personal perception of what will work for him/her. The writer did not "Biatch" about the in efficiencies of developers because the developers arn't efficient. The writer is merely stating what he/she wishes to see in a build and did so in a quite articulate manner with informative data that helps to substantiate the findings.
I think most of you should try not to "flame" unless you find writers obnoxious and out to make our dear developers look like they are wasting time. I understand that this is a developer site, all of us like it or not are beta testers. Being beta, the abundance of glitches are bound to happen. Reporting them is not a crime. Though the writer states in the topic as " What I really want in a build" come on guys, isn't a step into perfection what we all aim to achieve? Instead of flaming, we should just write our findings properly, may help even developers see what can be worked on and hopefully even collaborate to create a build that is universally accepted. HOW ELSE CAN WE GO NAND if we don't get the various builds to work efficiently! Is it effective now? YES! For sure.
Is it efficient now? Nope not yet, it will be, with everyone's help in reporting!
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Actually, I think what he is writing is a personal perception of what will work for him/her. The writer did not "Biatch" about the in efficiencies of developers because the developers arn't efficient. The writer is merely stating what he/she wishes to see in a build and did so in a quite articulate manner with informative data that helps to substantiate the findings.
I think most of you should try not to "flame" unless you find writers obnoxious and out to make our dear developers look like they are wasting time. I understand that this is a developer site, all of us like it or not are beta testers. Being beta, the abundance of glitches are bound to happen. Reporting them is not a crime. Though the writer states in the topic as " What I really want in a build" come on guys, isn't a step into perfection what we all aim to achieve? Instead of flaming, we should just write our findings properly, may help even developers see what can be worked on and hopefully even collaborate to create a build that is universally accepted. HOW ELSE CAN WE GO NAND if we don't get the various builds to work efficiently! Is it effective now? YES! For sure.
Is it efficient now? Nope not yet, it will be, with everyone's help in reporting!
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Still doesn't call for a new thread, especially not here if at all.
Bend over party
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Still doesn't call for a new thread, especially not here if at all.
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Hello Showtime7, that I agree with you. Should be in general discussion instead of this segment of the forum.
Whether a new thread was needed or not or whether it is in the wrong section the op made some good points. There is too much enthusiasm here for the latest build that doesn't work and not enough focus on putting together the best combination that works and is stable.
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Well, the time has come.
Kinuser1 has gotten into the phone and was able to reskin and change configs a little bit. Making the phone have no icons and no status bars on bottom (time and recent).
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Also a few glitches were found.
He stated a guide will be put up tomorrow sometime to show how he made the Kin Writable so lets see if hes telling us the truth or not. This could be a big breakfor us. Crossing Fingers
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He stated a guide will be put up tomorrow sometime to show how he made the Kin Writable so lets see if hes telling us the truth or not. This could be a big breakfor us. Crossing Fingers
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Indeed sir. If I get access to the KIN's filesystem, then I'll try to make some modifications to Themes, Apps, and maybe Sounds.
Interesting, very interesting.
But on the other hand, i think that skinning is the last thing we should do, if the OS storage is opened.
Trying to open any non-kin-native App and/or the storage to the "user" like crazy peeps could be better.
So i like that "few glitches" instead "reskin"
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Interesting, very interesting.
But on the other hand, i think that skinning is the last thing we should do, if the OS storage is opened.
Trying to open any non-kin-native App and/or the storage to the "user" like crazy peeps could be better.
So i like that "few glitches" instead "reskin"
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you can follow all the progress on FaceBook page.
I personally want to reskin the most. If new OS becomes available, then I'll update.
I guess that i will wait. The relationship between facebook and me became a bit cold.
He said he will be posting a guide here on XDA around 5:30 or 6pm. Hes at school. Once this guide is up Im looking at you Kussack to get cracken if this thing is real. We want a new OS lol
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Once this guide is up Im looking at you Kussack to get cracken if this thing is real
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That's guaranteed to happen if a door is open... lol.
lol yeah I cant wait. I so want Android or even windows 7 mobile. I really do hate the Kin OS
wow, I've been reading a lot of John's and 1's post, I'm by far the biggest noob to this but I want to help.
4LC4PON3 said:
lol yeah I cant wait. I so want Android or even windows 7 mobile. I really do hate the Kin OS
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and I love the thought of windows phone 7 on the kin, even a watered down version would be enough for me. I would just like to see some apps and facebook integration back, that would be awsome. Idonno something like the live blocks on phone 7 with the contact syncing we see in phone 7 or even the non M kins.
calm down, calm down. Putting another OS here is not a piece of cake, and in any attempt, there is the (high) risk of bricking. That including a normal flash, not a experimental space orbital thing.
Also, we dont know if we can replace things around, or just put red instead green in colour things... so slooow down.
who is in the line to do the tests? I'm not buying another kin though! (3 is too much).
I'm all for exploring this rabbit hole as far as it goes, but I agree with JohnKussack that we should calm down about this being the breakthrough for a new OS. It may or may not be. Personally, I think even some small improvements to the OS we have can go a long way, such as being able to add or remove (Win CE?) apps, change the skin, replace the browser, enable flash, etc.
yea your right, just wishful thinking
johnkussack said:
calm down, calm down. Putting another OS here is not a piece of cake, and in any attempt, there is the (high) risk of bricking. That including a normal flash, not a experimental space orbital thing.
Also, we dont know if we can replace things around, or just put red instead green in colour things... so slooow down.
who is in the line to do the tests? I'm not buying another kin though! (3 is too much).
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how many have you bricked xD I think 1st we should come up with a recovery, which I'm sure your opensorce file system could help with
Just 1 one (and was enough, rofl).
I'm kinda .... skeptical yet. Personally, i doubt that a new os is feasible and think that just "filetweaking" is available (which would be OK for testing apps).
On the recovery... that's why i got another one. It's older brother is awaiting in a fridge.
Unfortunately, the mtp->storage wont be an option for it.
One thing I would like to see honestly is the Kin being able to play games. Not through Wifi either. games like angry birds or something.
I might be able to help.
johnkussack said:
calm down, calm down. Putting another OS here is not a piece of cake, and in any attempt, there is the (high) risk of bricking. That including a normal flash, not a experimental space orbital thing.
Also, we dont know if we can replace things around, or just put red instead green in colour things... so slooow down.
who is in the line to do the tests? I'm not buying another kin though! (3 is too much).
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I might be able to do some testing on things. I am new to kins, actually mine is arriving soon, but not new to bricking phones. I have done alot of work with android, and now have a tablet. I use it so much, I am giving up my thunderbolt, and switching to the kin twom to save money on data. I like the look of the phone, but I can't resist hacking away at every piece of electronics that get into my hands. Anyway, I am looking forward to being part of the kin community, and I hope more people get into this phone.
4LC4PON3 said:
or even windows 7 mobile
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There's a mobile version of Windows 7? Do tell...
Hello Galaxy Peeps!
I am new here on this forum, this is my first post. I have been reading a lot on this site the last couple of weeks, and have found plenty of useful and essential information for my new baby! You guys (devs and members) ROCK!
On to the subject, which is the reason why I registered so that I could start the thread.
Here is where I currently stand:
SGS2 from BELL Mobility in Montreal Canada.
**Stock ROM is UGKG2. (I am aware that this matters very little)
**GINGERBREAD 2.3.3 out of the box.
I have already experienced a little bit with upgrading the firmware via Odin to a more recent official samsung build:
RUNNING ON:
XXKH3 ROM (stock)
GINGERBREAD 2.3.4
Rooted with CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KH3-v4.1-CWM4
Launcher: SPB Shell 3D (absolutely beautiful and buttery smooth!! totally worth the $15... simply the best, no doubts in my mind.)
I have never used CWM to flash an update, only used it for backing up and restoring so far. I do feel very comfortable diving in though with all that I have read here so far, and deem myself ready to try some Custom ROMS. They sound great!
The only thing holding me back is that I do not want to flash endlessly to find out which ROM is the best for me. I read up all the threads about the different ROMS, however I find it very difficult to find comparisons between them and picking the right one.
So basically I would like to start this discussion and have you guys tell us what you picked for yourself, and most importantly why you like your choice. The more details the better!
This I think would be a great help for people like me and in my situation, I know it will for sure help me tremendously.
Thanks guys, and keep informing the world about SGS2. Best device out there by far, all platforms mixed in...
Raz
Post number ten asking yet again whats the best rom????
jje
I think you are after this
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killall said:
I think you are after this
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LOL, nice pic
the modded spare parts in you sig I assume is compatible with Gingerbread
achillies400 said:
LOL, nice pic
the modded spare parts in you sig I assume is compatible with Gingerbread
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Yes, it was modded (not by me I hasten to add) to get the battery stats showing on VillainRom.
Raziel2k6 said:
A load of largely irrelevant crap...
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So you don't think that this question/invitation for discussion hasn't been asked a gazillion times already? In all the reading you say that you've done, you haven't come across other noobs posting the same things? No? Don't believe you; you clearly haven't read enough.
My advice? Don't use your 1st ever posts like this. Use them constructively. Get a shortlist of ROMs that you feel might be appropriate for your needs and if you have questions, search the relevant ROM thread. If you can't find a suitable answer, then post your question.
In my most humble opinion, this will greatly enhance your XDA experience as you won't get upset when people continuously tell you to search or flame you for being a noob. Some XDA users can be very intolerant.
In all honesty though, unless you're looking to switch to MIUI or Cyanogen, there isn't an enormous difference between the ROMs on offer. Mainly the themes and tweaks that the chef chooses to apply, but the base ROMs are essentially very similar.
I started this post with the intention of shouting at you for being imbecilic. As I wrote though, I realised that you were fairly literate and seemingly bright so I thought I'd go easy on you instead. I'm normally not this nice.
Yes about time we had a juvenile section for this forum .
jje
JJEgan said:
Yes about time we had a juvenile section for this forum .
jje
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XDA-Late-Developers.com?
[Suggestion] or maybe it can be done already. Being used to honeycomb on my Iconia I like the ability to move to another home screen just by touching the left or right side of the screen instead of swiping. Is this possible?
Cheers...
MJ-12
How's everyone doing?
Thanks for the replies guy, although not entirely what I was looking for... I guess to be expected with such a noob question after all I do admit to being guilty of being a noob when it come to Android and SGS, I just got my device not so long ago, coming from Samsung Omnia (WM) for a few years. Understand guys, I am not looking to get flamed here, just for a bit of advise coming from your experiences. I do understand where you guys stand, and I am sorry if I offended anyone... it was never my goal.
So far I am LOVING my new Droid!! I may not know so much when it comes to custom ROMS, but I am learning steadily when reading the posts on this site - @Major_Sarcasm yes I do read... I appreciated still the clarity and respectfulness of you reply -.
Yesterday I ended up flashing the LeoMar75 Revolution Rom and I like it up to now. It is great and is user friendly when it comes to customizations since you can use the Revolution kitchen app to download and install MOD packages. Awesome for a noob like me! I didn't even wait for any replies because I was too excited and wanted to flash ASAP on my time off, since I had already done a lot of browsing already at work. For now I think I made the right pick, and will not try to flash a different ROM, unless someone here tells me I messed up with my choice.
Finally I know many posts have been put up already for which is the best ROM out there, but if you "read" carefully my post was not entirely about that... in fact not at all!!! I stated the fact that I didn't want to try all the available ROMS out there to make a pick (too much work too little time)... that is one thing. I never anywhere in there asked what is the best ROM to use. What I was really asking is for you guys to share which you are currently using, and the reason why you like it (features, performance, etc...) or reasons why you may not like it and may want to switch back to something else. It was intended more as a discussion than a question. As you can see I already made my choice!
Again I hope I am not offending anyone, I just want to make sure I was thoroughly understood here
Hope you guys are having a great time with your babies, I sure am!
Cheers,
Raz...
Sounds good.
I think this would be a great thread if the flaming were to be non-existent.
I personally have been using Litening rom all the while, 5.0 first then 6.1 now. Satisfied with it, but I'm someone who gets bored easily so I am thinking of switching to something else. I'm also really sick of the battery life my phone offers, hopefully flashing a different rom might improve it. (I doubt so though, lol)
My main concern now is wiping - I hear its recommended to do a full wipe before flashing to other roms. So I have to do a full backup with CWM and Titanium Backup?
Deciding between LeoMar, Cognition and CyanogenMod...
Well guess what? No one has enough time to try them all out, that's why 3 of these threads pop up every day from people like you.