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Will a 6 in 1 supersim work in Wizard?

Hi,
Was looking at the twin sim option but seem the same seller on ebay is offering this:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Universal-6-N...836681504QQcategoryZ67966QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Universal 6 Number in 1 Sim Card for GSM Mobile Phone
Looks like it could stop having the bulge on rear of phone that the twin sim causes.
Any comments on whether it may work?
Scott

That looks neat - however, I have been told that this sort of thing won't work on UK SIMS due to the encryption standard we use (or something like that - sorry to be vague)
I've emailed the seller to ask him if it'll work with UK sims, and will let you know. If it does, I'll try one in the T-Mobile Vario (Wizard).

It is a UK seller so I guess it will work on UK SIMs.

Just got an email from the seller saying:-
The software is only standard STK menu
So - I doubt there is software for Windows Mobile device but I would loved to be proved wrong
Scott

yes, you'd think so wouldn't you...
From googling around, it appears that all supersims have a restriction that they only work with V1 and V1+ SIM cards. Not V2...
...and apparently all recent UK sims are "V2". I'm afraid I'm just passing on info from this forum, and have no way of checking what sims are v1 or v2. If someone will let me know how to check, I will do for o2 and t-mobile sims that I have

slewis1972: be very careful. As indicated, 6in1 are sim copiers, that require cracking the encryption on the sim before they can host the copy.
If this cracking doesn't work, it's destructive AFAIK. So, you'll be left without a sim. They work only on older Cellnet era sims (in the UK) and ok in some foreign countries.
I've posted on a £4 sim cut dual sim from ebay. Works well on Magician.
Hope that helps.
V

STK menu means SIM Toolkit. STK is a way for SIM cards to have their own menu with special functions on mobile phones.
This is not used much by UK operators, but it is very used elsewhere. You simply get an additional menu in your mobile phone.
This is also supported by Jams and Wizards of course, as it is a standard feature of SIM cards. One of my SIM cards have a STK menu, and it appears perfectly on the Wizard (and previously on Jam).
The problem is whether the PC software will be able to copy the data residing in our SIM cards, whether UK or non-UK. In theory, if our mobile phone can read this data, then why shouldn't this kit be able to do it.
We need more answers from the vendor. It might actually work.

A bit more research: there's no current sim copiers that can "crack" the encryption on a V2 SIM, although sim max are apparently working on it.
Every card in the last 2 years - possibly longer - has been a v2 card.
again, I'd love to be wrong as I'd love this to work, but I think it's sorta doomed

Thanks for your research.
I am waiting for an answer from the vendor, but I have also sent emails to one of his previous customers. There are also guys in the UK among his previous customers.
In any case, I do not get the argument related to encryption. Any mobile phone can read the data on any SIM, as long as you give it the correct PIN number. The encryption might be an issue if someone tries to crack the SIM without knowing the PIN code, but in this case, we all know the PIN codes of our SIMs, so why shouldn't this device be able to read the content of our SIM cards...
Anyway, let's see what the vendor will reply. He is got excellent eBay feedback by the way, and many have bought this 6 in 1 super SIM...

Sirox, I suggest you do some detailed reading on this before you risk a SIM on it. There's a great difference between getting the sim PIN and this procedure. This requires you to crack the encryption of the SIM itself and clone it, and then emulate it back from the clone card.
This is not something most Operators like (although some operators will provide you with a second sim to use simultaneously if you ask).
v1 cards had a weak encryption.
v2 cards (current) are hard, if not impossible to crack, AFAIK.
http://www.gsm-talk.com/t227735p1-please-help-cloning-uk-sim.htm
From http://ucables.com/ref/SIM-SCAN
some cards can be destroyed using this function!!! especially prepaid cards!!! because they have limited running of a38 from 10000 to 65536 times and after that a38 do not work anymore!!!
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V

Hi Vijay,
Thanks for your info.
The vendor has replied to me saying that this product supports V1 and some V2 type SIM cards, about 98% of SIM cards around. And you have to note that UK GSM providers have never been particularly up for high technology, compared for example to Italian GSM providers who use much more advanced SIM cards, with lots of menus, and 128K, etc.
What I have done, I have written messages to 6 UK-based people who have bought this stuff on eBay (all with positive feedback), asking them to report back how it works and which GSM providers they use. I believe this is the best way of solving the issue.
In any case, I am not at all interested in cloning my SIM card per se, as this would be easily done by asking the operator for a duplicate for car usage. I am only interested in having my 2-3 SIM cards (of different countries) in one, without needing to swap them.
I will report here when I receive answers from those previous customers.

Maybe this can help you ...
Explain how to distinguish V1 from V2 SIM card ...
http://www.nowgsm.com/supersim.htm
16 in 1 SIM
Take care about the NOTE : Work near 100% on V1 card but incompatible with V2 ...
Regards
Asmo

Thanks for the info and the link!
The product mentioned in your link seems to have different specs from the one that originated this thread, as this one declares that it can read some V2 cards too.
By the way, the indication in the note might be useful. It says that if the SIM supports more than 250 numbers it may not be compatible. As a matter of fact, my Vodafone UK (contract) SIM card has only 200 slots, so it might be COMP128V1, therefore compatible.
As I said earlier, UK operators do not tend to use latest technology. In Italy for example, GSM operators made big marketing campaigns a couple of year ago for the new 64K SIM cards. Now they are doing it with the 128K SIM cards, while in the UK I think they are all still 16K or 32K. And they do not use the SIM Toolkit features.
By the way, a couple of eBay customers have already replied that they haven't received the stuff yet, but will let me know when they receive it.

change teh sim card possible?

Gentlemen / ladies
first off i would like to thank this site for all its help so far , i have installed colonels rom and i am delighted with it , however i have a small question.
i purchased the sprint mogul while visiting the states last week as i needed a pda and it seemed to fit all my desires , however upon bringing it home i noticed that there was no simcard slot so i cant use it here in Ireland (we seem to be a bit behind the times ) spoke to a rep here and i was told the simcard is inbuilt and it would need to go back to htc to be changed , now that isnt really feasible at the moment so i was wondering if it was possible for me to change it out or if that is even possible , i dont mind taking it apart but i can find no info on where the sim goes or if there even is one , sooooooo just wondering is it possible ?
thanks again for all the help i have recived from other threads on upgrading and thanks to the colonel for releasing a class rom
regards

To the best of my knowledge, CDMA phones don't use sim cards at all. I could be wrong.

excaliburhc said:
Gentlemen / ladies
first off i would like to thank this site for all its help so far , i have installed colonels rom and i am delighted with it , however i have a small question.
i purchased the sprint mogul while visiting the states last week as i needed a pda and it seemed to fit all my desires , however upon bringing it home i noticed that there was no simcard slot so i cant use it here in Ireland (we seem to be a bit behind the times ) spoke to a rep here and i was told the simcard is inbuilt and it would need to go back to htc to be changed , now that isnt really feasible at the moment so i was wondering if it was possible for me to change it out or if that is even possible , i dont mind taking it apart but i can find no info on where the sim goes or if there even is one , sooooooo just wondering is it possible ?
thanks again for all the help i have recived from other threads on upgrading and thanks to the colonel for releasing a class rom
regards
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Uh, for in Ireland you have a paperweight. There is no CDMA outside North America. There is no sim in the Mogul, and nothing in it can be reprogrammed to make it work on GSM. The entire radio portion of the phone is made for CDMA and specifically Sprint.
Sorry, but you'd be better off ebaying it and getting a GSM device.

ScottC said:
There is no CDMA outside North America.
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To my knowledge, this statement isn't entirely true, as I believe that South Korea and maybe China has CDMA networks...but I could be wrong...
Everything else you stated is right on though!

Oh boy.
In a nutshell:
2 major types of wireless protocols:
GSM and CDMA.
GSM is a sim-card based allowing phone portability, and exists on a world-wide market. The sim card contains your identity, and switching it into another phone causes your identity to follow.
CDMA is phone-based, meaning every phone has a unique ID that broadcasts to the tower. That ID (sort of like the VIN number on a car) exists on only your phone, and represents your ID on the network. This actually existed long before GSM and SIM-cards, and is at a bit of a disadvantage because you can't switch phones whenver you want. Your provider has to switch it for you.
Here in the US, we have both CDMA and GSM networks now, however CDMA has been around longer, and so it is still arguably the more common technology. Lately, GSM has been catching up, but over in Europe GSM has always been around and CDMA is virtually non-existant.
Living in Ireland, I beleive that all networks are GSM, which means SIM-card based. So, you probably didn't know that there were other types of technology that weren't compatible! If anything, we here in the US are "behind the times" because we're still using an antiquated ID system as opposed to SIM cards!
HTC makes a GSM version of these devices as well, which you should consider. They are known as the Tytn and the Kaiser (our Mogul/Titan sort of comes in between, although most closely resembling the Kaiser in hardware). Next time you want to buy a phone in the US, make sure its GSM and unlocked first!
Hope this clears things up!

You should have 30 days to send back the mogul and get out of your contract. The phone will not work outside of North America. Take a look at the HTC Kaiser,its also sold as the AT&T Tilt. Its a GSM device that is very similar to the Mogul.

If you told Sprint that you were going to be going back to Ireland, I wonder why they didn't sell you the Samsung IP-830W, which works on the Sprint CDMA network in the states, but can be used on GSM/GPRS networks everyplace else.
If you can't get a full refund, maybe you can exchange the Mogul for that?
I think it's a little behind the times, but the IP830 is a pretty good phone and has a smaller slide out QWERTY keyboard.

thank you for the information , just need to find that damn receipt now and give radioshack a call , see about a swap for the tilt ,
regards

sigghhh
well it seems radioshack cant help . unless i brought it back to the store i purchased it in , and that cant really happen .
anywhoooo thanks all for the help ,
but i have just one other ,
is it possible to synq my titan with another type of phone i.e nokia 6610 and have the titan act as the handsfree ? via bluetooth?
basically like the satnavs where you have the dialer but it uses your phone to connect , seems like a strange request but this would at least allow me to use the phone features
thanks in advance

NFC Payment Transactions

So I have one of the new Nokia Lumia 1020's from Rogers. I recently picked up one of the Secure SIM's (SureTap SIMs), that supposedly support NFC transactions for payments.
Activated the card, it's all working. However I still don't have an option to enable NFC payments under the MS Wallet App?
Anyone have any experience with this?

Zhariak said:
So I have one of the new Nokia Lumia 1020's from Rogers. I recently picked up one of the Secure SIM's (SureTap SIMs), that supposedly support NFC transactions for payments.
Activated the card, it's all working. However I still don't have an option to enable NFC payments under the MS Wallet App?
Anyone have any experience with this?
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AFAIK, it isn't supported yet on any WP device yet. I think its kinda dumb that a user needs a specific type of SIM to do NFC transaction, but that's just me.

Supported, supported. I have Lumia 820 with branding Amber ROM from Orange PL and special SIM card with PayPass. All works verry well:
http://budniu.wordpress.com/2013/09...cu-dzialaja-na-lumii-820-ale-tylko-od-orange/ (my Polish site). Orange PL supported NFC payment by Orange Cash option. We have to have special SIM Card with add account in the bank (mBank) from the operator (my is Orange PL).
http://www.orange.pl/kid,4000377334,id,4002836765,title,Orange-Cash,article.html

thals1992 said:
AFAIK, it isn't supported yet on any WP device yet. I think its kinda dumb that a user needs a specific type of SIM to do NFC transaction, but that's just me.
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I've done some reading in to it. Apparently the reason why they did this, was so that they could encrypt the CC information using high encryption algorithms on the SIM card, just in case the phone was accidentally lost, or sim card jacked. It kind of makes sense. Also allows the banks to control the cards in the SIM remotely.
Budniu said:
Supported, supported. I have Lumia 820 with branding Amber ROM from Orange PL and special SIM card with PayPass. All works verry well:
http://budniu.wordpress.com/2013/09...cu-dzialaja-na-lumii-820-ale-tylko-od-orange/ (my Polish site). Orange PL supported NFC payment by Orange Cash option. We have to have special SIM Card with add account in the bank (mBank) from the operator (my is Orange PL).
http://www.orange.pl/kid,4000377334,id,4002836765,title,Orange-Cash,article.html
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I'm so jealous!!!!

NFC Sim/MobilePay/SmartPay

Hello,
can someone please verify MobilPay/Smartpay on a ZTE Axon 7 (A2017G/B03 or B05) with the following App please?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.psa.app.bawag
Understanding german would help a lot
I have a NFC enabled SimCard but the App refuses to use it - it says that the SimCard cannot be read and/or is not NFC enabled.
But if i put the Sim in a Samsung S4 the App says everything is alright and i could activate my mobile cash dispenser card.
So i would like to know if my phone is broken or maybe the software parts are not working well.
It would be awesome if someone could find out more why this is not working. E.h. Android Version, Mipop, HW Design, Dual Simslot ... whatever
To install and just check if you are nfc ready you do not need a valid bank account for bawag psk.
The only thing you need is a NFC Simcard and a ZTE Axon7 A2017G.
Thanks a lot!
Best regards
sonypsx

My guess would be the phone doesn't support it.

That would be really sad!
Maybe some of the developers or ZTE Support could prove this?
As i understood there must be a wire directly from the NFC Chip to the SimCard.
So there are some more questions to answer:
.) is the OS including the modifications from ZTE supporting it
.) which Sim should equiped with NFC (Sim1 or Sim2)
.) is that needed hardwire in place
Best regards
sonypsx

Just installed the app and, from what I could understand, my NFC-SIM can't be detected.
I also tried Vodafone's Wallet app and it can't read Vodafone's NFC-SIM.
Oh well...

[email protected]
So it seems to be that it is not just my phone...
Maybe someone could bother ZTE with this?
It would be very interesting if someone with a alternative ROM could verify this functionality so we can figure out if its only the software or it is hardware related.
Thanks in advance!
Best regars
sonypsx

Hi,
I live in The Netherlands where KPN also provides an NFC sim to work directly together with the Rabobank NFC payment app. This DOES work perfectly for me. When switching to the NFC sim to do mobile payments, the app indicated a separate NFC support tool needed to be installed (NFC Manager, from KPN Consulting). I also had to select a specific entry to pay with the NFC Sim in the Tap & Pay settings in the all settings menu. And finally, you need to have NFC enabled on your phone to allow it.
I previously had a Samsung Note 3 which was natively supported via its NFC, but the Axon actually works faster and better with the NFC Sim than my old Note 3. Quite happy with it.
I have the A2017G on B03.

I've reached Vodafone Spain about this subject and they got back with the following:
(...)we regret to inform you that your smartphone isn't certified to use with Vodafone Wallet, meaning you can only use it to access loyalty cards and store points.(...)
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I won't bother with Vodafone Spain as I'm returning to my country in a month or so, but I will query Vodafone Portugal once I get a new NFC-SIM from them and will update this post asap.
gschot said:
Hi,
I live in The Netherlands where KPN also provides an NFC sim to work directly together with the Rabobank NFC payment app. This DOES work perfectly for me. When switching to the NFC sim to do mobile payments, the app indicated a separate NFC support tool needed to be installed (NFC Manager, from KPN Consulting). I also had to select a specific entry to pay with the NFC Sim in the Tap & Pay settings in the all settings menu. And finally, you need to have NFC enabled on your phone to allow it.
I previously had a Samsung Note 3 which was natively supported via its NFC, but the Axon actually works faster and better with the NFC Sim than my old Note 3. Quite happy with it.
I have the A2017G on B03.
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Exactly, my guess is that some operators are still enabling the Axon 7 to their DB, as this model is new and unknown to most.
This sounds like a great solution for us without Android Pay support.

Im in the Netherlands as well. For use with the ABNAMRO wallet app there is no nfc enabled simcard needed. This phone does it out of the box with it's own nfc chip! Works like a charm!
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using XDA-Developers mobile app

gschot said:
Hi,
I live in The Netherlands where KPN also provides an NFC sim to work directly together with the Rabobank NFC payment app. This DOES work perfectly for me. When switching to the NFC sim to do mobile payments, the app indicated a separate NFC support tool needed to be installed (NFC Manager, from KPN Consulting). I also had to select a specific entry to pay with the NFC Sim in the Tap & Pay settings in the all settings menu. And finally, you need to have NFC enabled on your phone to allow it.
I previously had a Samsung Note 3 which was natively supported via its NFC, but the Axon actually works faster and better with the NFC Sim than my old Note 3. Quite happy with it.
I have the A2017G on B03.
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I have a Axon7 with KPN NFC SIM but I can't get mine to work. I selected the Rabo Wallet for NFC SIM in Tap & Pay settings and enabled but the NFC manager app keeps saying 'device doesn't support NFC SIM'.
I am running LineageOS though, and have Chinese Axon7, so maybe that's why it's different.

Kogan bought phone csc issue samsung pay transport card option

I am an Australian citizen and bought a dual sim S8 (SM-G950FD) a few years ago on Kogan. Apparently they import these phones but I have had no trouble using it with a kogan (vodaphone) sim card. Only problem is that although Samsung Pay works fine, I do not get the transport card option that would allow me to tap my smart watch on the Opal Card reader without activating my watch. Works on Opal Readers but Need to activate Samsung Pay first which is more painful than using a regular opal card. I checked the CSC on my phone and its XME so I think the phone thinks its a Malaysian region phone so I do not get the transport card option which is for Australia only.
Not sure what my options are. I think it is possible to flash a new CSC to my phone.
Problem is that my USB connector has stopped working for data - still works for charging for now although its slow.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.