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Upgrade 2.1 leak to 2.1 OTA

So I thought I read on here multiple times that it was impossible to upgrade the Eris from the 2.1 Leak to the 2.1 OTA. Just for the hell of it, I gave it a shot. To my amazement it worked. Did I misunderstand the forum or is this really not supposed to happen?
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Can you explain more clearly please? Ota from Verizon or?

If you are referring to the "so-called" Verizon OTA release candidate it is possible to update from the 2.1 leak to this version, it's just not possible to update to the 2.1 root which, I may be mistaken, at one point had been called OTA in a few places.

Well When the first 2.1 Leak came out I immediately upgraded to it.
It was this one
HTC 2.1 Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, REJECTED. Do not Install if you want root.
Rom: http://www.sendspace.com/file/frqze0
I downloaded it from the original post from the Taiwanese guy who posted it on here in the first place.
Then just today I thought why not give it a shot and install the newest one. Which was this one.
HTC 2.1 Release Candidate (AKA OTA) Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, possible OTA leak. Do not Install if you want root.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RHNAWUR0
Was this not supposed to be possible or not? I thought I read on here that once the Leaked 2.1 was installed, nothing else could be installed. That we were stuck with it.
Let me know if you need any more info.

Nimado said:
If you are referring to the "so-called" Verizon OTA release candidate it is possible to update from the 2.1 leak to this version, it's just not possible to update to the 2.1 root which, I may be mistaken, at one point had been called OTA in a few places.
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Oh ok, I guess that's what I did then. I was just confused. This version seems to run A LOT smoother.
Thanks for the answer.

On the contrary, from all I've read, I was of the understanding that upgrading from 2.1 old leak to 2.1 new leak was not only possible, but recommended, if the few bugs in old 2.1 leak...bugged you. Did my upgrade a few days ago from leak old to leak new, and it I like it.
Thanks for all the hard work, leakers and devs!

suppliesidejesus said:
On the contrary, from all I've read, I was of the understanding that upgrading from 2.1 old leak to 2.1 new leak was not only possible, but recommended, if the few bugs in old 2.1 leak...bugged you. Did my upgrade a few days ago from leak old to leak new, and it I like it.
Thanks for all the hard work, leakers and devs!
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This is good to know!!!

It depends on how verizon packages the update. If its OTA, without an RUU or PB00IMG.zip, chances will be small (unless they do a format, then complete install, as custom roms do.) OTA's are targetted from one platform to another.

2.2 froyo question

Hey guys, just curious since I havent gotten a chance to use a rooted phone yet.
-When google comes out with 2.2 froyo update, are we able to update it from a rooted rom or does it have to be under stock condition?

+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?

You'd probably have to wait until someone post the stock rom of froyo, and then flash that.

Or flash on of the numerous stock ROMs that already exist, and get OTA like the rest of us.

Or wait for cyan for his release which I believe will be soon after the official release.

You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.

This is a complete non issue. The stock 2.2 rom may very well be available to flash here before you recieve the ota if its a rolling release. If not it will be a close race. BTW, The ota looks for a stock officially signed recovery to install itself with, if you do not have one the ota will fail.

jamesyb0i said:
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
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Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?

ill just wait for cyano to release its froyo version...

I'd be willing to bet that the features present in 2.2 will reach a version of CM before they reach any non-rooted N1. I'm just saying... we already have some of the features currently, i.e. customizable trackball notifications.

that really just depends on when google pushes the sources of 2.2 into AOSP. so chances are that a stock 2.2 will be available sooner than a cyanogen 2.2, but it will be worth the wait

3Shirts said:
Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
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cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol

jamesyb0i said:
cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
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well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it

walie said:
well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
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bazinga!!!

he tasks me, he tasks me.
but naw switched to enom's for now, miss trackball unlock but allgud/ battery heaps better

PrawnPoBoy said:
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
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That's not true. I did a warranty replacement a while back and restored the phone to stock before sending it back. I used the SAPPIMG.zip method to restore the shipping ROM, recovery, and radio. After rebooting and setting up the phone, I was offered the OTA update and the OTA completed successfully. Being bootloader unlocked did not affect my ability to get OTA updates.

A little confusion here it seems and I will throw out my understanding. An ota will work if it does not have to access an officially signed recovery, if it does and does not find one it will fail. Once you have installed a custom recovery going back to the stock one will not help in this regard because it is no longer officially signed. 2.2 will require an officially signed recovery to install and everything I read says it will be seen, it will download, then it will fail to install. If this is incorrect than I look forward to learning more about this question as it keeps popping up over and over. I have yet to hear from any owner who was able to update from 2.0 to 2.1 after having installed a custom recovery, seems like there would have been many....

[Q] I rooted and installed a ROM, what to do if 2.2 or 2.3 comes out?

rooted, installed cw recovery, installed jt's superclean 0.4 DI01 ROM, what would I do when 2.2 or 2.3 comes out? will I have to wait a couple days for a updated ROM to come out for that version of android? Or would I have to go back to stock?

Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota

Kevin Gossett said:
Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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this. and you know very shortly after an OTA comes out, or more likely before, it will be released here in multiple flavors. so i wouldn't worry about it.

ok cool. thanks

Thanks for the info....good post. I hope its true and we see it soon. Ignore PhoenixPath he likes to shoot down anyone.... Your thread 100% belongs here.

Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?

Powell730 said:
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
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I would think there would at least be a rooted version out the same day. A lot of it will depend on when it is released. If it gets released late at night or during the week, it may take a little longer than if it gets released earlier in the day or on like a Friday.

Another reason not to return to stock to get an update from Verizon: The update may prevent the phone from being rooted again by patching the security loophole that we exploit to gain root.
Sent from my rooted SCH-I500 using XDA App

Stock Android

Hey guys i am just wondering if there is a rom that has stock 2.2 or 2.3 android for the phone. No touch wiz or anything. I looked around but i just foiund 2.3 video, which i assume is not yet released.

2.3 is not released officially yet. if your looking for stock 2.2 try eclair or if you want 2.2.1 try froyo.
both can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846913

search for cyanogen mod 7 there is a beta out

the 2.2 and 2.2.1 all have samsung touchwiz, i think only 2.3 doesn't have touch wiz, someone correct me if im wrong...

lcgmadeira said:
the 2.2 and 2.2.1 all have samsung touchwiz, i think only 2.3 doesn't have touch wiz, someone correct me if im wrong...
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Yeah, you are right that 2.3 does not have touchwiz. Maybe it has something to do with a fact that there is no 2.3 for a single Samsung phone yet?

Rytkonen said:
Yeah, you are right that 2.3 does not have touchwiz. Maybe it has something to do with a fact that there is no 2.3 for a single Samsung phone yet?
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lol, maybe... I read somewhere that 2.3 won't have touchwiz, it will be android stock... i dot know if its a good or bad thing... Still waiting.

Wow! The misinformation in this thread is stunning....
The Android versions are as follows:
2.1 - Eclair
2.2 - Froyo
2.2.1 - Froyo
2.3 - Gingerbread
Now, as for touchwiz. The Galaxy S version will almost certainly have touchwiz. It will be very similar to our phones right now, but with the power of little Gingerbread Men.
Next, as for not a single Samsung phone not having 2.3. That is simply wrong. The Nexus S (a Samsung phone) was released with 2.3 over a month ago. However, because it is also Google branded, it does come with stock 2.3. The reason we don't have 2.3 on the Galaxy S yet is because they are adding touchwiz and all the other Samsung crap. And unfortunately, the hardware difference between the Nexus S and the Galaxy S is big enough that an easy port is not possible until Samsung releases the 2.3 source code for out Galaxy S.

All of the stock samsung ROMs are ALL with the touch-wiz.....
If you want there are many cooked roms without it, or CyanogenMod Beta that is gingerbread 2.3.....
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CyanogenMod Beta i guess is what i al looking for

DZ could be getting ICS. *source*

http://androidandme.com/2012/02/devices/official-htc-android-4-0-handset-update-list/
And if we don't get an official version, there are definitely enough similar devices listed that we could get a GREAT port

I just saw the link under the post that you linked, which says that the Explorer is on the update list for ICS. If that's true, and the desire z is still not getting an update, i think i'll end up pulling all my hair out!
I really hope we can get an official update still.

Hopefully, the ONE V will give the devs the port material for ICS!

ICS for Desire Z
If we just want an ICS port for DZ, we still have a lot barring some raregraphical glithces, Camera and FM radio. Porting One V will also pose the same problems as HTC uses some different chipset for camera in it. So the drivers maynot be the same for both the devices. Also, One V uses 3rd generation snapdragon whereas our DZ uses 2nd generation processor.
Our best bet is DHD ICS update.
Fingers Crossed !!

zoot1 said:
If we just want an ICS port for DZ, we still have a lot barring some raregraphical glithces, Camera and FM radio. Porting One V will also pose the same problems as HTC uses some different chipset for camera in it. So the drivers maynot be the same for both the devices. Also, One V uses 3rd generation snapdragon whereas our DZ uses 2nd generation processor.
Our best bet is DHD ICS update.
Fingers Crossed !!
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The One V is single core, the 3rd generation snapdragons are dual core.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

DRSdroid said:
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/devices/official-htc-android-4-0-handset-update-list/
And if we don't get an official version, there are definitely enough similar devices listed that we could get a GREAT port
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Okay I am a noob at all this, if my question seems dumb just chalk it up to that.
I have a G2 the link stated that we MAY be getting the update, if you are running CM7 and no longer use standard rom would that still update or do I need to just sit back relax and wait for CM9 ?
I do want to say that since finding this site I have rooted s-off and modded both mine and my wifes G2 and have had no trouble. Just saying thanks to everyone on the site.

Generally custom ROM's like CM7 can not use OTA update functions, that's been turned off by the dev's. But if you wanted to use a Stock Sense 4.0 ROM for our phone (*if* it will be ever released), then you'd probably be better off waiting for a custom release. If you were to use any sort of way to install an official release, whether that is OTA or manual update using an update file then you'd potentially be S-ON'd with pretty much stock everything, potentially a phone that's completely stock, which depending on what's been changed may not be root-able. Surely don't want that!
Now there's no official CM9 dev'ing for our phone as of yet because the CyanogenMod team has stated it will not start dev'ing until official proprietary drivers for our chipset (which is similar to a lot of HTC phones) have been released. So, once official DHD / DS / OneV / SensationXL ICS has been released then the CM team will most likely start dev'ing on CM9 for our phone. Yet, Andromadus, the unofficial CM9 and JIBWich ROM's are the closest thing to CM9 we have as of yet.
With all that said, we will probably be seeing Sense 4.0 ROM's (ports, not official stuff) in the coming days...Matter of fact is, I think we have two dev's trying to port a Sense 4.0 ROM over from the MT4G dev section. So hopefully we will have our chance to play around with Sense 4.0 pretty soon!

crestofawave said:
Generally custom ROM's like CM7 can not use OTA update functions, that's been turned off by the dev's. But if you wanted to use a Stock Sense 4.0 ROM for our phone (*if* it will be ever released), then you'd probably be better off waiting for a custom release. If you were to use any sort of way to install an official release, whether that is OTA or manual update using an update file then you'd potentially be S-ON'd with pretty much stock everything, potentially a phone that's completely stock, which depending on what's been changed may not be root-able. Surely don't want that!
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All that, and installing an OTA on a rooted device may also bootloop the device, or otherwise render it incapable of booting. Don't ever install an OTA on a rooted Android device.
Rooted versions of official updates usually get posted here very soon after the official release, sometimes ever earlier (in the case of leaks which then get rooted, before the official ROM actually hits OTA)! So just be patient, and wait for the a pre-rooted version.

redpoint73 said:
All that, and installing an OTA on a rooted device may also bootloop the device, or otherwise render it incapable of booting. Don't ever install an OTA on a rooted Android device.
Rooted versions of official updates usually get posted here very soon after the official release, sometimes ever earlier (in the case of leaks which then get rooted, before the official ROM actually hits OTA)! So just be patient, and wait for the a pre-rooted version.
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First the information was of great help, I continue to learn from members, I have no plans to become a dev, however to know is to avoid serious problems later.

I saw an article on engadget stating that Norway, I think, released ics with sense 3.6 to the sensation users. Does that use the same camera as ours? Not sure if that update would help create a stable ics rom for g2
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

otariq said:
I saw an article on engadget stating that Norway, I think, released ics with sense 3.6 to the sensation users. Does that use the same camera as ours? Not sure if that update would help create a stable ics rom for g2
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Not the same chipset, no. It's the Sensation XL that will help us more, I think their ICS ROM had already leaked ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.