So I thought I read on here multiple times that it was impossible to upgrade the Eris from the 2.1 Leak to the 2.1 OTA. Just for the hell of it, I gave it a shot. To my amazement it worked. Did I misunderstand the forum or is this really not supposed to happen?
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Can you explain more clearly please? Ota from Verizon or?
If you are referring to the "so-called" Verizon OTA release candidate it is possible to update from the 2.1 leak to this version, it's just not possible to update to the 2.1 root which, I may be mistaken, at one point had been called OTA in a few places.
Well When the first 2.1 Leak came out I immediately upgraded to it.
It was this one
HTC 2.1 Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, REJECTED. Do not Install if you want root.
Rom: http://www.sendspace.com/file/frqze0
I downloaded it from the original post from the Taiwanese guy who posted it on here in the first place.
Then just today I thought why not give it a shot and install the newest one. Which was this one.
HTC 2.1 Release Candidate (AKA OTA) Leak Rom
Verizon test rom, possible OTA leak. Do not Install if you want root.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RHNAWUR0
Was this not supposed to be possible or not? I thought I read on here that once the Leaked 2.1 was installed, nothing else could be installed. That we were stuck with it.
Let me know if you need any more info.
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If you are referring to the "so-called" Verizon OTA release candidate it is possible to update from the 2.1 leak to this version, it's just not possible to update to the 2.1 root which, I may be mistaken, at one point had been called OTA in a few places.
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Oh ok, I guess that's what I did then. I was just confused. This version seems to run A LOT smoother.
Thanks for the answer.
On the contrary, from all I've read, I was of the understanding that upgrading from 2.1 old leak to 2.1 new leak was not only possible, but recommended, if the few bugs in old 2.1 leak...bugged you. Did my upgrade a few days ago from leak old to leak new, and it I like it.
Thanks for all the hard work, leakers and devs!
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On the contrary, from all I've read, I was of the understanding that upgrading from 2.1 old leak to 2.1 new leak was not only possible, but recommended, if the few bugs in old 2.1 leak...bugged you. Did my upgrade a few days ago from leak old to leak new, and it I like it.
Thanks for all the hard work, leakers and devs!
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This is good to know!!!
It depends on how verizon packages the update. If its OTA, without an RUU or PB00IMG.zip, chances will be small (unless they do a format, then complete install, as custom roms do.) OTA's are targetted from one platform to another.
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I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread regarding everything that's going to happen regarding Sprint's official 2.1 update, including steps we should take if we want to use it, and what the consequences will be. I'm not an expert on these things, but there are lots of people here who are, and centralizing that information will probably be very helpful to lots of folks once this update is rolled out.
For starters, what will we have to do if we want to install the update? wipe, restore nandroid backup, receive OTA update?
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
Thirdly, will there be any real advantage to installing the official sprint update?
If anyone has any answers to these questions, or wants to ask other questions, or has any other pertinent information on what this 2.1 update process will entail, please post it here so we can all learn. Thanks!
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Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
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Not that I'm aware of. Nor is it clear that we will be able to root the same way as we did the 1.5.
ASULutzy said:
I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread regarding everything that's going to happen regarding Sprint's official 2.1 update, including steps we should take if we want to use it, and what the consequences will be. I'm not an expert on these things, but there are lots of people here who are, and centralizing that information will probably be very helpful to lots of folks once this update is rolled out.
For starters, what will we have to do if we want to install the update? wipe, restore nandroid backup, receive OTA update?
Secondly, will there be anyway to maintain root on the device and also install their official 2.1?
Thirdly, will there be any real advantage to installing the official sprint update?
If anyone has any answers to these questions, or wants to ask other questions, or has any other pertinent information on what this 2.1 update process will entail, please post it here so we can all learn. Thanks!
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1. The update might wipe your phone. Expected to be OTA.
2. Nobody but Sprint knows if the root exploit is patched. Wait for release, dont update right away, wait for confirmation of root.
3. The way I see it, the only benefit is that 2.1 ROMs will have everything working "officially". Sprint stock ROMs are full of crapware.
just wait till it realeased and your questions will be answered no one knows what the updates going to do or included in it
Regarding whether or not the same root exploit will work, I'm not a real expert on phone development or Android, but I am a software engineer and a real Linux nerd.
Presumably the 2.1 images will also include a much newer kernel that has long since patched that old fs pipe exploit. But who knows, maybe they won't. Either way, there are always occasional local root exploits found within the linux kernel, so it would just be a matter of time.
The way I see it is the Eris users finally have root on 1.5 but whoever updated to the leaked 2.1 can't get root... If Eris = Hero, 2.1 < 1.5. Hahh.
Kinda off-topic here, but the OP needs to fix the title of the thread. If you go into the OP, hit Edit, then hit Advanced Edit, you can change it
Root can only take so long. Once the source is released there's no way to stop people from baking an AOSP with root.
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Kinda off-topic here, but the OP needs to fix the title of the thread. If you go into the OP, hit Edit, then hit Advanced Edit, you can change it
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Thanks! lol, I thought it would be under advanced thread tools and when it wasn't I gave up looking
Once we get a ruu of the stock upgrade we should be able to extract the necessary files to make a full update.zip of the stock rom with root already applied. So if you dont want to lose root access then don't jump the gun when the update Goes official.
The only thing that I seem to be missing with Damagecontrol is certain webpages refuse to load. 99% of the webpages I access work fine. AFAIK all other features function 100% and I've had BETTER battery life after flashing this with the updated PRL.
I have a feeling it'll be a while before I finally migrate to a ROM based on the official build being that I'm so satisfied with this one.
You can take this with a grain of salt. I just finished a chat with a sprint tech using the chat feature on their site. This person said that the update will be OTA and that there was no specified date yet.
"It will be OTA. We are actively working on having the Android 2.1 platform available to our Hero and Moment customers over the coming weeks. However, there is no fixed date has been mentioned here."
So if this tech has the correct info then I doubt the 26th of March is going to be the date as some have stated. But this person may not have access to everything that is why I say take it with a grain of salt.
Just updated to 2.1 OTA. Not bad, kind of sluggish, but to be expected from an official version.
............yeah no. So much for March eh?
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Just updated to 2.1 OTA. Not bad, kind of sluggish, but to be expected from an official version.
............yeah no. So much for March eh?
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march isn't over yet.
....i say more like april or may tbh. i heard the nexus launch might be in june so it makes sense to release 2.1 closer to that considering the n1 runs 2.1.
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march isn't over yet.
....i say more like april or may tbh. i heard the nexus launch might be in june so it makes sense to release 2.1 closer to that considering the n1 runs 2.1.
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Oh well, thanks damageless for 2.1 on my Hero all ready.
Since the 2.1 new update was released, I figured it would be a higher version number than our leaked 2.1. That means we could hboot it to our phones to update.
But wait, could some developer root this update (maybe in a similar to the way they rooted 1.5 to 2.1 root) so the leaked 2.1 people could hboot to this new update for 2.1 except it would be rooted.
Sorry if that was confusing.
Here's where the update was found:
androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/55898-you-dont-need-root-new-leak.html
As far as I understand it, the reason that 2.1 OTA can be installed for users running leaked 2.1 is because it has a higher subversion number and it is SIGNED. That is the tricky part. Because your SPL / HBoot is S-ON, meaning that it will only install signed zips, you are still unable to install a rooted 2.1. The reason that the exploit worked on 1.5 is because the PB00IMG.zip IS a signed package, but the versioning only puts it ahead of 1.5, not Leaked 2.1 or OTA 2.1. Once the PB00IMG.zip is installed, it turns S-OFF so that unsigned (e.g. rooted) packages. From what I have read in other posts, devs are moving toward trying to find exploits in the new 2.1 OTA for users who have already upgraded without root. I would personally recommend doing the 2.1 OTA and hanging tight for the next exploit.
Thank you man. So, would it not be possible to turn S-OFF in this new update? I understand that would require going in and tampering with the files, which could break the signature on the package, possibly?
Precisely, if you change one bit of a signed file, the signature changes completely. As I understand it, the PB00IMG.zip file that is used to root 1.5 phones was "stumbled upon" already signed by HTC. For any future rooting for people with 2.1, this file is unusable because the versioning of this convenient package is older than what leakers and official 2.1 adopters have. It is impossible to modify the 2.1 update without breaking the sig. We now have to hope that devs can find an exploit or broken code in the new 2.1 update that allows for rooting by another means.
If you are desperate, feel free to try to socially engineer Verizon. That has met with considerable success from some other early adopters. If not, play the waiting game. In the mean time, feel free to upgrade to the OTA 2.1 leak. It fixes some things like Google relogin.
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Precisely, if you change one bit of a signed file, the signature changes completely. As I understand it, the PB00IMG.zip file that is used to root 1.5 phones was "stumbled upon" already signed by HTC. For any future rooting for people with 2.1, this file is unusable because the versioning of this convenient package is older than what leakers and official 2.1 adopters have. It is impossible to modify the 2.1 update without breaking the sig. We now have to hope that devs can find an exploit or broken code in the new 2.1 update that allows for rooting by another means.
If you are desperate, feel free to try to socially engineer Verizon. That has met with considerable success from some other early adopters. If not, play the waiting game. In the mean time, feel free to upgrade to the OTA 2.1 leak. It fixes some things like Google relogin.
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So, I installed the first 2.1 leak. Can I install this new one that just came out in the last couple days? Sorry, guess I'm not seeing the answer here
If we were able to find a way to modify the update to include root with a valid signature, we would also be able to modify the version number to a higher number than the current 2.1 leak. I'm pretty sure upgrading to the "official" 2.1 won't hurt our chances of finding root, it'll just make the wait less buggy
jearl75:
Yeah, you can install the new leak over the old one, no worries.
so should us people on the first 2.1 leak upgrade to the newest one or stay on the first one??
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so should us people on the first 2.1 leak upgrade to the newest one or stay on the first one??
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I reckon that depends on if you're experiencing the Google login bug or not. My wife's Eris with the first leaked 2.1 is not. And if you are experiencing that bug, which is more hassle...logging into Google repeatedly, or rebuilding your phone (apps, contacts, etc) from scratch??
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I reckon that depends on if you're experiencing the Google login bug or not. My wife's Eris with the first leaked 2.1 is not. And if you are experiencing that bug, which is more hassle...logging into Google repeatedly, or rebuilding your phone (apps, contacts, etc) from scratch??
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its not that bad since i rarely restart my phone, i guess my real question would be would it make it longer until i get root? or are devs trying to root the NEW 2.1 instead of the old 2.1
I apologize if this gets old, but I am trying to be cautious so I don't brick my phone...
I downloaded the following leaked 2.1 version a few weeks ago, and have this installed:
Baseband version: 2.40.00.01.22
Kernel version: 2.6.29-5898f66b / [email protected] #1
Build number: 2.19.605.1 CL12345 test-keys
Software number: 2.19.605.1
I have a problem installing the new version of Google Maps. Phone dial can be sluggish and/or unresponsive at times, but it is manageable. Overall, the installation of the leaked ROM went fine, and I feel like I am pushing my luck if I try to download the latest ROM. Does anyone know if the latest release addresses the issues above? I am not experiencing any of the login issues to Gmail that others are experiencing.
My question is this: Should I just leave well enough alone and wait for the OTA at this point?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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I apologize if this gets old, but I am trying to be cautious so I don't brick my phone...
I downloaded the following leaked 2.1 version a few weeks ago, and have this installed:
Baseband version: 2.40.00.01.22
Kernel version: 2.6.29-5898f66b / [email protected] #1
Build number: 2.19.605.1 CL12345 test-keys
Software number: 2.19.605.1
I have a problem installing the new version of Google Maps. Phone dial can be sluggish and/or unresponsive at times, but it is manageable. Overall, the installation of the leaked ROM went fine, and I feel like I am pushing my luck if I try to download the latest ROM. Does anyone know if the latest release addresses the issues above? I am not experiencing any of the login issues to Gmail that others are experiencing.
My question is this: Should I just leave well enough alone and wait for the OTA at this point?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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I Know that when I installed the new Leak, the dialer lag was MUCH improved, as was the phone signal and general stability, Gmail doesn't make you log back in every reboot, and on my phone my "get more HTC widgets" link is fixed. But I heard on others phones it wasnt. It Does wipe all your apps even though its 2.1 -> 2.1. But Just like last time the SD card is untouched.
The installation process is exactly the same. I recommend it.
EDIT- Actually I just noticed the build you have installed is test keys signed and to my knowledge only the root rom was test key signed. This being the case if you want to keep root I would flash a custom cooked ROM... Since your lucky enough to have the chance to do so... Sigh..
Wait, test keys signed means what exactly? My Eris reads that but I only installed the two leaks AFAIK?
Does it just mean signed by HTC?
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Wait, test keys signed means what exactly? My Eris reads that but I only installed the two leaks AFAIK?
Does it just mean signed by HTC?
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So you only installed the 2.1 non-root Leaks??? I may be mistaken, but both times I flashed the leaks, 2.1a +2.1b, both had builds signed with release keys... I was under the impression that only the 2.1 leak+root was signed with test keys.
Shed some light developers?
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So you only installed the 2.1 non-root Leaks??? I may be mistaken, but both times I flashed the leaks, 2.1a +2.1b, both had builds signed with release keys... I was under the impression that only the 2.1 leak+root was signed with test keys.
Shed some light developers?
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You are exactly correct: Both of the leaked 2.1 roms have release keys, while the 1.5->2.1 root rom (and any rom based on that upgrade) will have test keys.
my girl has a rooted 2.1 with release keys. download Grdlocks ota rom
ahjee said:
my girl has a rooted 2.1 with release keys. download Grdlocks ota rom
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Interesting...can you post the software version/info from your phone settings?
ahjee said:
my girl has a rooted 2.1 with release keys. download Grdlocks ota rom
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Thats most probably because Grdlocks ota rom is based on just that, the 2.1 ota leak, not the 2.1+root rom. The Beauty of custom roms...
Sorry no one has been clean on this before:
The 2.1 leak was leaked from HTC by riverrunner. We actually don't care about the hboot version, radio version is the main thing updaters look at (we've found that out since root).
The 2.1 update that had root built in was also an HTC leak. It contained SU. That was the difference. We didn't do ANYTHING to get root. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It was leaked by someone at HTC. Simple enough. So, we CANNOT redo this, becuas we did NOTHING.
Hope this clears it up. Thanks!
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Sorry no one has been clean on this before:
The 2.1 leak was leaked from HTC by riverrunner. We actually don't care about the hboot version, radio version is the main thing updaters look at (we've found that out since root).
The 2.1 update that had root built in was also an HTC leak. It contained SU. That was the difference. We didn't do ANYTHING to get root. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It was leaked by someone at HTC. Simple enough. So, we CANNOT redo this, becuas we did NOTHING.
Hope this clears it up. Thanks!
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I'm glad this was finally publicly admitted. I got kind of tired of the devs going around pretending they actually did something besides getting lucky with a leak.
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Thought that this would need to be created since the upgrade has begun. I have 2 Eris Droids on my account and 1 has received the update but not the other. It is possible that because the other has the v3 leak already maybe it will not update until there is an update beyond 2.1. I am in the Washington DC Metro area. Which has a HUGE Verizon base.
I am committed to finding the root for this. I will work on it myself and report any progress. If anyone else wants to contribute their findings...feel free...
Save for future use...1
Still have not achieved anything as of yet...
Save for future use...2
Save for future use...2
Save for future use...3
Save for future use...3
No one on any of the leaks has received the OTA update. Its possible they never will, as it has been stated the leaks have a higher HBOOT than the OTA. OF course if you ask the people on the VZWSupport on twitter they all claim that the leakers will receive it before the end of the OTA period. But since no one, as far as I know, on a leak has received it I will believe it when it happens. Just my 2 cents
I agree with you on that. Its our penalty for circumventing the VERIZON way...LOL
This thread is a bit superfluous, it has been confirmed you can root the OTA update the same way you could root 1.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681648
However, the leaked RUU updates changed the HBOOT version, where the OTA update did not. This means leakers are SOL, at least for the time being...
sorry wrong post lol
DEAd thread.
Version 3 of leak is almost identical (minus a few missing files that are not needed) to the OTA.
OTA users can root via 1.5 method.
Search function FTW.
jcase said:
DEAd thread.
Version 3 of leak is almost identical (minus a few missing files that are not needed) to the OTA.
OTA users can root via 1.5 method.
Search function FTW.
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Are you sayign Version 3 leaked can be rooted?
No, he is stating that if you went from 1.5 stock to 2.1 OTA you can root using the same method as the 1.5 -> 2.1 root.
If you have any of the leaked versions you cannot root yet.
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Are you sayign Version 3 leaked can be rooted?
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No. v3 changed the hboot version.
I am using a rooted version of 1.5 right now, I keep getting the message from Verizon if I want to update to 2.1 OTA.
Anyone know if could allow that update to download and would it work? Lets assume it does not work would it ruin my phone? Or worse case I just re-flash my phone back to rooted 1.5?
Reason I am using rooted 1.5 over any of the current rooted leaked 2.1 roms is the bluetooth is not working with my new car I picked up last weekend I am very curious to find out if the problem with bluetooth is a bug in 2.1 leaked versions or is also present in the official over the air version too.
Btw 1.5 rooted bluetooth works just fine. And my friend Droid and my wife blackberry work just fine so I know my car bluetooth is not the problem.
not only do people with the leak
not have to worry about getting the update, they also have to worry about losing their 3g, which is what happened to me when the official verizon ota update hit. lucky for me, the local store didnt know i root and ordered me a replacement since i was under warrantee. i think my rooted phone and verizon kept trying to push the ota update back to each other freezing up my 3g speed.
rooted, installed cw recovery, installed jt's superclean 0.4 DI01 ROM, what would I do when 2.2 or 2.3 comes out? will I have to wait a couple days for a updated ROM to come out for that version of android? Or would I have to go back to stock?
Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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Wait for a ROM... Much easier than dealing with having to go back to stock just for an ota
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this. and you know very shortly after an OTA comes out, or more likely before, it will be released here in multiple flavors. so i wouldn't worry about it.
ok cool. thanks
Thanks for the info....good post. I hope its true and we see it soon. Ignore PhoenixPath he likes to shoot down anyone.... Your thread 100% belongs here.
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
Powell730 said:
Would it be expected to have a Froyo 2.2 rom the same day it comes out OTA if Verizon somehow keeps it from being leaked before?
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I would think there would at least be a rooted version out the same day. A lot of it will depend on when it is released. If it gets released late at night or during the week, it may take a little longer than if it gets released earlier in the day or on like a Friday.
Another reason not to return to stock to get an update from Verizon: The update may prevent the phone from being rooted again by patching the security loophole that we exploit to gain root.
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Hey folks I have a question on the MT4g OTA update.
Have any of you gotten yours yet, or has it will it be released soon?
Any Devs working on a cooked stock update with sense 3.0 rom?
I'm trying to prepare for this update and want to stay with the stock rom for the MT4G OTA release with sense 3.0 and a nice kernal to go with it.
Please share your news with me on this, i'm kinda starting to feel the wear on flashing so many roms. I use currently RG 2.0, anything really new with the new 2.1?
Let me know thanks.
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Hey folks I have a question on the MT4g OTA update.
Have any of you gotten yours yet, or has it will it be released soon?
Any Devs working on a cooked stock update with sense 3.0 rom?
I'm trying to prepare for this update and want to stay with the stock rom for the MT4G OTA release with sense 3.0 and a nice kernal to go with it.
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Have the been to the Dev section? Kinda hard to miss the Sense 3.0 ROM.
The upcoming OTA will not be Sense 3.0, but instead a "mySense" variant of Sense 2.1.
To be honest there has been no confirmation of gingerbread for the mt4g. the only indication we have is the leaked rom. So yes, it exists, and yes it will be released eventually, but it could be months from now. look at the Droid X - they've been running a leaked GB rom for months now.
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To be honest there has been no confirmation of gingerbread for the mt4g. the only indication we have is the leaked rom. So yes, it exists, and yes it will be released eventually, but it could be months from now. look at the Droid X - they've been running a leaked GB rom for months now.
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Although no date has been announced, T-Mobile employees have had the OTA on their MT4G's for a month now. That's usually a pretty sure sign that an update is coming soon.