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[Q] Some advise on update pls

I have an Orange HTC Hero which is rooted and running MoDaCo Custom Rom 3.2
I 've kind of woken up and found that in the summer finally there is Android 2.1 available and some custom 2.2 as well it seems
Now it seems that with 2.1 you get automatic updates so I was thinking of flashing it with the original unlocked with firmware 2.73.405.6.
I'm not very techy so I would like to understand a bit more the implications. The other reason I was considering the original ROM is that apparently (at least the ones I've looked at) the custom roms with 2.1 lack HTC Sense.
Am I correct or have I got all the info wrong?
Thanks for your help

You can go official. Though its not without bugs.
There are versions of 2.1 with and without sense in terms of custom roms. Launcher pro is the favorite vanilla launcher at the moment. And its very nice.
All 2.2 roms are vanilla android currently.

btdag said:
You can go official. Though its not without bugs.
There are versions of 2.1 with and without sense in terms of custom roms. Launcher pro is the favorite vanilla launcher at the moment. And its very nice.
All 2.2 roms are vanilla android currently.
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thanks btdag
So, if I had to go with the official version. Does that mean that mean that my phone becomes unrooted again?
Thanks for tip on Launcher Pro. I've just seen some videos of it and it really looks nice

joespresso said:
So, if I had to go with the official version. Does that mean that mean that my phone becomes unrooted again?
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Yes.
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Thanks Guys. At the end I decided to stick with custom roms and flashed it with the Villianrom. Will see how it goes.

Will htc at least release 2.3 gingerbread for wildfire?

I am just curious will htc release 2.3 android for wildfire??? Anyone know???
Best regards
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Unlikely. But, this has officially neither been confirmed nor denied. Someone sent a mail to HTC, and, got a standard automated reply "We will notify you if we are providing 2.3 for Wildfire... bla bla bla"
Anyhow, as I said previously, in my personal opinion, it is unlikely. More so now, because the Wildfire S is out.

Good point there... I mean it is kind of strange that we have custom roms for wildfire based on gingerbread that work quite fine,and then we dont have original rom with gingerbread... and then stupidest move of all is to lock bootloader and all that malarky that makes froyo unrootable...
Am I right or wrong???
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

dragdusan said:
Good point there... I mean it is kind of strange that we have custom roms for wildfire based on gingerbread that work quite fine,and then we dont have original rom with gingerbread... and then stupidest move of all is to lock bootloader and all that malarky that makes froyo unrootable...
Am I right or wrong???
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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It's to force people to ditch their Wildfire and get their new line of phones. Simple and cold business logic.

why the hell do u need official gingerbread on ur wildfire. the official froyo for wildfire updated the bootloader and implemented greater security on the bootloader, so that no one knows whether it will be rooted or not. 4months of work without any result.
i dont want official gingerbread on my device. and i dont want any further security on my bootloader. need someone to root my wildfire.
the answer to ur question is wildfire is not getting any official gingerbread. the 3 network in UK has already confirmed that.
the reason is simple. wildfire s is releasing this may, which decreases the htc support to the original wildfire.

The hero still got 2.1 after.the desire was out
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

brilldoctor said:
The hero still got 2.1 after.the desire was out
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Hero wasn't a budget device but the Wildfire is.
HTC Tattoo for an example is still on 1.6.
Also HTC UK said on facebook, "Because of the capabilities of the wildfire we think its best for now to keep the wildfire on 2.2"
Which makes no sense, Gingerbread is even faster.

bharatgaddameedi said:
why the hell do u need official gingerbread on ur wildfire. the official froyo for wildfire updated the bootloader and implemented greater security on the bootloader, so that no one knows whether it will be rooted or not. 4months of work without any result.
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Err.... I did update to 2.2 official without changing my HBOOT. How? I waited for the modified version without the HBOOT image
I`ll gladly do the same for 2.3 official.

Alex_GP said:
Err.... I did update to 2.2 official without changing my HBOOT. How? I waited for the modified version without the HBOOT image
I`ll gladly do the same for 2.3 official.
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great news dude. it means that even u can still root ur froyo wildfire now. ur patience benefitted u. to be patient is what i learn frm u.
and where is that modified version of official froyo update. can u give me a download link of it.
i think the modified version definately has an updated radio, updated recovery image, and other updated things leaving the HBOOT unupdated. do u face any problems with this issue.
i think the modified update is OTA UPDATE zip file. and in that ota zip file, we will see firmware.zip .
the firmware .zip contains boot.img and HBOOT file
i think u replaced the boot.img and HBOOT with an older version eclair RUU. am i correct
creators of the modified version, pls let me know how u did that.
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oh, sorry i got it.
so, u first had a rooted phone and then u made update with ROOTED OFFICIAL UPDATE.ZIP

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9890520&postcount=4
it`s v0.0, but i`m running V0.1.

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Gingerbread Sense would be slow on our device. HTC won't do such a stupid thing. They will force people the upgrade the phones.

ShyamSasi said:
Gingerbread Sense would be slow on our device. HTC won't do such a stupid thing. They will force people the upgrade the phones.
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really. how would be the gingerbread sense in custom roms. havent tasted them yet

bharatgaddameedi said:
really. how would be the gingerbread sense in custom roms. havent tasted them yet
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No one has, because Gingerbread Sense does not boot on the Wildfire. Atleast yet.

Gingerbread is pretty light, It has the exact requirements of Froyo.
It will not run slow, there are custom roms that prove that.
HTC is just forcing you to buy a new phone.
I think I'll go Samsung next time.

From my expirence with samsung - DONT!! My tab has had no updates, is laggy (as all other galaxy s devices are) I would reccomend a higher end htc

brilldoctor said:
From my expirence with samsung - DONT!! My tab has had no updates, is laggy (as all other galaxy s devices are) I would reccomend a higher end htc
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I wouldn't. They are all shipping with locked bootloaders now - ala SE. So, if you wish to have stuff like Root and Custom ROM's, not good at all.

Skye Menjou said:
Gingerbread is pretty light, It has the exact requirements of Froyo.
It will not run slow, there are custom roms that prove that.
HTC is just forcing you to buy a new phone.
I think I'll go Samsung next time.
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+1 on samsung. I myself am thinking of getting a Galaxy Ace. Rooted my friend's ace yesterday - it was so easy! Just psneuter (superoneclick) is enough - and you have full system r/w access. Trying to get CWM running on it now

Actually, a lot of the new SE phones are supposed to ship with unlockable bootloaders. As far as I know, anyway. Neo, Arc and Play, at least. These seem to be fairly high-end.
Just wondering whether they will back out soon like they did with PS3's OtherOS option.

3xeno said:
I wouldn't. They are all shipping with locked bootloaders now - ala SE. So, if you wish to have stuff like Root and Custom ROM's, not good at all.
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That's why my tab Is stock. With the wildfire it was as simple as unrevoked and then hit install rom in clockworkmod whilst the Samsung devices you need to mess with odin and there are no rrus to go back to stock
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[Q] Switching/Upgrading to 2.2

I know this may seem stupid to a lot of people on here, but I want to switch from my rooted 2.1 Aria and update it to 2.2. The main reason I want to do this is for the apps that are only available for froyo (I loved my rooted phone, but I also want the update).
I downloaded the RUU 2.2 from the HTC site and went through the process. The only problem is that my phone did not update. The info on the phone says that it's version 2.2.2, but the UI and everything else is still 2.1 format. Basically the brain is froyo, but the body is eclair. I contacted customer service, and they said that I would need to send my phone in for repair since it was rooted (i.e. broken to them).
I would rather not send in my phone and deal with them. Can anyone think of any solution to this problem? Thanks!

sqs said:
I know this may seem stupid to a lot of people on here, but I want to switch from my rooted 2.1 Aria and update it to 2.2. The main reason I want to do this is for the apps that are only available for froyo (I loved my rooted phone, but I also want the update).
I downloaded the RUU 2.2 from the HTC site and went through the process. The only problem is that my phone did not update. The info on the phone says that it's version 2.2.2, but the UI and everything else is still 2.1 format. Basically the brain is froyo, but the body is eclair. I contacted customer service, and they said that I would need to send my phone in for repair since it was rooted (i.e. broken to them).
I would rather not send in my phone and deal with them. Can anyone think of any solution to this problem? Thanks!
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Well, it's too late now, but you could have simply installed the Liberated 2.2.2 update from this site -- which is basically the AT&T official update with the bloatware removed and it lets you retain root access on your phone.
Anyway, what makes you believe that your UI is still 2.1? Honestly there is very little visually different between 2.1 and 2.2.2 so it wouldn't look very different anyway.

sqs said:
I downloaded the RUU 2.2 from the HTC site and went through the process. The only problem is that my phone did not update. The info on the phone says that it's version 2.2.2, but the UI and everything else is still 2.1 format. Basically the brain is froyo, but the body is eclair.
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The version of HTC Sense did not change much between Android 2.1 and 2.2. If you phone says that it's version 2.2.2 then the update probably took. As the previous posted mentioned, you are not going to see much difference in the UI. If you look in the list of installed apps, you should see some news, including the Wifi Hotspot.

Thanks for the replies so far. The reason why I say it's still a 2.1 UI is because from what I've seen of screenshots of froyo, it looks different. The froyo interface (at least from what I've seen) looks like the current one that cyanogenmod is using. I know the current cyanogenmod is based on Gingerbread, but I was thinking that there wasn't a big difference between gingerbread and froyo, while the big difference change was between eclair and froyo. Also, my hboot version is 1.02. Is this a sign of 2.1 or 2.2?
I am still not able to install 2.2 only apps (such as Flash 10.2) on my phone, which is why I'm thinking it's still partially stuck in 2.1.

sqs said:
Thanks for the replies so far. The reason why I say it's still a 2.1 UI is because from what I've seen of screenshots of froyo, it looks different. The froyo interface (at least from what I've seen) looks like the current one that cyanogenmod is using. I know the current cyanogenmod is based on Gingerbread, but I was thinking that there wasn't a big difference between gingerbread and froyo, while the big difference change was between eclair and froyo. Also, my hboot version is 1.02. Is this a sign of 2.1 or 2.2?
I am still not able to install 2.2 only apps (such as Flash 10.2) on my phone, which is why I'm thinking it's still partially stuck in 2.1.
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You will never be able to install Flash on your device since it requires an ARM7 processor, ours have a ARM6 (at least until Adobe build a version that does not require the ARM7 instructions set). If your Hboot is 1.02, then your phone DID take the update - you are stuck with it until if/when someone is able find a new root exploit.
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Ok thanks a lot for that! I'm still learning all the intricacies of the droid processing system. Let's hope for a root for 2.2 soon.

sqs said:
Thanks for the replies so far. The reason why I say it's still a 2.1 UI is because from what I've seen of screenshots of froyo, it looks different. The froyo interface (at least from what I've seen) looks like the current one that cyanogenmod is using. I know the current cyanogenmod is based on Gingerbread, but I was thinking that there wasn't a big difference between gingerbread and froyo, while the big difference change was between eclair and froyo. Also, my hboot version is 1.02. Is this a sign of 2.1 or 2.2?
I am still not able to install 2.2 only apps (such as Flash 10.2) on my phone, which is why I'm thinking it's still partially stuck in 2.1.
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You're thinking of the updated AOSP look. The Aria uses the HTC Sense UI which didnt change at all on the Aria between 2.1 and 2.2 (not visually anyway). hboot 1.02 is definitely an update to 2.2.

[Q] question on 4g update(s)

Hey folks I have a question on the MT4g OTA update.
Have any of you gotten yours yet, or has it will it be released soon?
Any Devs working on a cooked stock update with sense 3.0 rom?
I'm trying to prepare for this update and want to stay with the stock rom for the MT4G OTA release with sense 3.0 and a nice kernal to go with it.
Please share your news with me on this, i'm kinda starting to feel the wear on flashing so many roms. I use currently RG 2.0, anything really new with the new 2.1?
Let me know thanks.

jay4mont78 said:
Hey folks I have a question on the MT4g OTA update.
Have any of you gotten yours yet, or has it will it be released soon?
Any Devs working on a cooked stock update with sense 3.0 rom?
I'm trying to prepare for this update and want to stay with the stock rom for the MT4G OTA release with sense 3.0 and a nice kernal to go with it.
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Have the been to the Dev section? Kinda hard to miss the Sense 3.0 ROM.
The upcoming OTA will not be Sense 3.0, but instead a "mySense" variant of Sense 2.1.

To be honest there has been no confirmation of gingerbread for the mt4g. the only indication we have is the leaked rom. So yes, it exists, and yes it will be released eventually, but it could be months from now. look at the Droid X - they've been running a leaked GB rom for months now.

kimbernator said:
To be honest there has been no confirmation of gingerbread for the mt4g. the only indication we have is the leaked rom. So yes, it exists, and yes it will be released eventually, but it could be months from now. look at the Droid X - they've been running a leaked GB rom for months now.
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Although no date has been announced, T-Mobile employees have had the OTA on their MT4G's for a month now. That's usually a pretty sure sign that an update is coming soon.

DZ could be getting ICS. *source*

http://androidandme.com/2012/02/devices/official-htc-android-4-0-handset-update-list/
And if we don't get an official version, there are definitely enough similar devices listed that we could get a GREAT port

I just saw the link under the post that you linked, which says that the Explorer is on the update list for ICS. If that's true, and the desire z is still not getting an update, i think i'll end up pulling all my hair out!
I really hope we can get an official update still.

Hopefully, the ONE V will give the devs the port material for ICS!

ICS for Desire Z
If we just want an ICS port for DZ, we still have a lot barring some raregraphical glithces, Camera and FM radio. Porting One V will also pose the same problems as HTC uses some different chipset for camera in it. So the drivers maynot be the same for both the devices. Also, One V uses 3rd generation snapdragon whereas our DZ uses 2nd generation processor.
Our best bet is DHD ICS update.
Fingers Crossed !!

zoot1 said:
If we just want an ICS port for DZ, we still have a lot barring some raregraphical glithces, Camera and FM radio. Porting One V will also pose the same problems as HTC uses some different chipset for camera in it. So the drivers maynot be the same for both the devices. Also, One V uses 3rd generation snapdragon whereas our DZ uses 2nd generation processor.
Our best bet is DHD ICS update.
Fingers Crossed !!
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The One V is single core, the 3rd generation snapdragons are dual core.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

DRSdroid said:
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/devices/official-htc-android-4-0-handset-update-list/
And if we don't get an official version, there are definitely enough similar devices listed that we could get a GREAT port
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Okay I am a noob at all this, if my question seems dumb just chalk it up to that.
I have a G2 the link stated that we MAY be getting the update, if you are running CM7 and no longer use standard rom would that still update or do I need to just sit back relax and wait for CM9 ?
I do want to say that since finding this site I have rooted s-off and modded both mine and my wifes G2 and have had no trouble. Just saying thanks to everyone on the site.

Generally custom ROM's like CM7 can not use OTA update functions, that's been turned off by the dev's. But if you wanted to use a Stock Sense 4.0 ROM for our phone (*if* it will be ever released), then you'd probably be better off waiting for a custom release. If you were to use any sort of way to install an official release, whether that is OTA or manual update using an update file then you'd potentially be S-ON'd with pretty much stock everything, potentially a phone that's completely stock, which depending on what's been changed may not be root-able. Surely don't want that!
Now there's no official CM9 dev'ing for our phone as of yet because the CyanogenMod team has stated it will not start dev'ing until official proprietary drivers for our chipset (which is similar to a lot of HTC phones) have been released. So, once official DHD / DS / OneV / SensationXL ICS has been released then the CM team will most likely start dev'ing on CM9 for our phone. Yet, Andromadus, the unofficial CM9 and JIBWich ROM's are the closest thing to CM9 we have as of yet.
With all that said, we will probably be seeing Sense 4.0 ROM's (ports, not official stuff) in the coming days...Matter of fact is, I think we have two dev's trying to port a Sense 4.0 ROM over from the MT4G dev section. So hopefully we will have our chance to play around with Sense 4.0 pretty soon!

crestofawave said:
Generally custom ROM's like CM7 can not use OTA update functions, that's been turned off by the dev's. But if you wanted to use a Stock Sense 4.0 ROM for our phone (*if* it will be ever released), then you'd probably be better off waiting for a custom release. If you were to use any sort of way to install an official release, whether that is OTA or manual update using an update file then you'd potentially be S-ON'd with pretty much stock everything, potentially a phone that's completely stock, which depending on what's been changed may not be root-able. Surely don't want that!
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All that, and installing an OTA on a rooted device may also bootloop the device, or otherwise render it incapable of booting. Don't ever install an OTA on a rooted Android device.
Rooted versions of official updates usually get posted here very soon after the official release, sometimes ever earlier (in the case of leaks which then get rooted, before the official ROM actually hits OTA)! So just be patient, and wait for the a pre-rooted version.

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All that, and installing an OTA on a rooted device may also bootloop the device, or otherwise render it incapable of booting. Don't ever install an OTA on a rooted Android device.
Rooted versions of official updates usually get posted here very soon after the official release, sometimes ever earlier (in the case of leaks which then get rooted, before the official ROM actually hits OTA)! So just be patient, and wait for the a pre-rooted version.
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First the information was of great help, I continue to learn from members, I have no plans to become a dev, however to know is to avoid serious problems later.

I saw an article on engadget stating that Norway, I think, released ics with sense 3.6 to the sensation users. Does that use the same camera as ours? Not sure if that update would help create a stable ics rom for g2
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otariq said:
I saw an article on engadget stating that Norway, I think, released ics with sense 3.6 to the sensation users. Does that use the same camera as ours? Not sure if that update would help create a stable ics rom for g2
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Not the same chipset, no. It's the Sensation XL that will help us more, I think their ICS ROM had already leaked ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.