DZ could be getting ICS. *source* - G2 and Desire Z General

http://androidandme.com/2012/02/devices/official-htc-android-4-0-handset-update-list/
And if we don't get an official version, there are definitely enough similar devices listed that we could get a GREAT port

I just saw the link under the post that you linked, which says that the Explorer is on the update list for ICS. If that's true, and the desire z is still not getting an update, i think i'll end up pulling all my hair out!
I really hope we can get an official update still.

Hopefully, the ONE V will give the devs the port material for ICS!

ICS for Desire Z
If we just want an ICS port for DZ, we still have a lot barring some raregraphical glithces, Camera and FM radio. Porting One V will also pose the same problems as HTC uses some different chipset for camera in it. So the drivers maynot be the same for both the devices. Also, One V uses 3rd generation snapdragon whereas our DZ uses 2nd generation processor.
Our best bet is DHD ICS update.
Fingers Crossed !!

zoot1 said:
If we just want an ICS port for DZ, we still have a lot barring some raregraphical glithces, Camera and FM radio. Porting One V will also pose the same problems as HTC uses some different chipset for camera in it. So the drivers maynot be the same for both the devices. Also, One V uses 3rd generation snapdragon whereas our DZ uses 2nd generation processor.
Our best bet is DHD ICS update.
Fingers Crossed !!
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The One V is single core, the 3rd generation snapdragons are dual core.
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DRSdroid said:
http://androidandme.com/2012/02/devices/official-htc-android-4-0-handset-update-list/
And if we don't get an official version, there are definitely enough similar devices listed that we could get a GREAT port
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Okay I am a noob at all this, if my question seems dumb just chalk it up to that.
I have a G2 the link stated that we MAY be getting the update, if you are running CM7 and no longer use standard rom would that still update or do I need to just sit back relax and wait for CM9 ?
I do want to say that since finding this site I have rooted s-off and modded both mine and my wifes G2 and have had no trouble. Just saying thanks to everyone on the site.

Generally custom ROM's like CM7 can not use OTA update functions, that's been turned off by the dev's. But if you wanted to use a Stock Sense 4.0 ROM for our phone (*if* it will be ever released), then you'd probably be better off waiting for a custom release. If you were to use any sort of way to install an official release, whether that is OTA or manual update using an update file then you'd potentially be S-ON'd with pretty much stock everything, potentially a phone that's completely stock, which depending on what's been changed may not be root-able. Surely don't want that!
Now there's no official CM9 dev'ing for our phone as of yet because the CyanogenMod team has stated it will not start dev'ing until official proprietary drivers for our chipset (which is similar to a lot of HTC phones) have been released. So, once official DHD / DS / OneV / SensationXL ICS has been released then the CM team will most likely start dev'ing on CM9 for our phone. Yet, Andromadus, the unofficial CM9 and JIBWich ROM's are the closest thing to CM9 we have as of yet.
With all that said, we will probably be seeing Sense 4.0 ROM's (ports, not official stuff) in the coming days...Matter of fact is, I think we have two dev's trying to port a Sense 4.0 ROM over from the MT4G dev section. So hopefully we will have our chance to play around with Sense 4.0 pretty soon!

crestofawave said:
Generally custom ROM's like CM7 can not use OTA update functions, that's been turned off by the dev's. But if you wanted to use a Stock Sense 4.0 ROM for our phone (*if* it will be ever released), then you'd probably be better off waiting for a custom release. If you were to use any sort of way to install an official release, whether that is OTA or manual update using an update file then you'd potentially be S-ON'd with pretty much stock everything, potentially a phone that's completely stock, which depending on what's been changed may not be root-able. Surely don't want that!
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All that, and installing an OTA on a rooted device may also bootloop the device, or otherwise render it incapable of booting. Don't ever install an OTA on a rooted Android device.
Rooted versions of official updates usually get posted here very soon after the official release, sometimes ever earlier (in the case of leaks which then get rooted, before the official ROM actually hits OTA)! So just be patient, and wait for the a pre-rooted version.

redpoint73 said:
All that, and installing an OTA on a rooted device may also bootloop the device, or otherwise render it incapable of booting. Don't ever install an OTA on a rooted Android device.
Rooted versions of official updates usually get posted here very soon after the official release, sometimes ever earlier (in the case of leaks which then get rooted, before the official ROM actually hits OTA)! So just be patient, and wait for the a pre-rooted version.
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First the information was of great help, I continue to learn from members, I have no plans to become a dev, however to know is to avoid serious problems later.

I saw an article on engadget stating that Norway, I think, released ics with sense 3.6 to the sensation users. Does that use the same camera as ours? Not sure if that update would help create a stable ics rom for g2
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otariq said:
I saw an article on engadget stating that Norway, I think, released ics with sense 3.6 to the sensation users. Does that use the same camera as ours? Not sure if that update would help create a stable ics rom for g2
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Not the same chipset, no. It's the Sensation XL that will help us more, I think their ICS ROM had already leaked ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Related

to OTA or not to OTA

How much of a threat is the OTA/radio to future roms and rooting. I want to flash but not if it will jeopardize future endeavors....unrevoked twitter says not to...
As for the official ota that will be pushed by verizon I would not install it until unrevoked took a look at it, the leaked ota can be returned to stock and is fairly safe if you know what you are doing and have taken some time to read.
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jbizzle, MachString's right. Its safe to update to leaked OTA 2.2, and you don't lose root in the process. I recommend SkyRaider 2.0.1 once you've installed the leaked OTA 2.2 Radio and ROM as it's De-Odexed and give a much needed boost of performance w/ CityID and Footprints removed. Follow the steps to update to Leaked 2.2 and then download ROM Manager from Android Market and install SkyRaider 2.0.1 that way
Third
I am no stranger to rooting or to modified ROMs. I will tell you that I am not installing the "buggy beta" that everyone else has jumped on.
Personally, my plan of attack is to wait until unrEVOked gets the real OTA and sees if they can root it. If they can, then this is a no brainer ... avoid the "buggy beta" at all costs, install the pure ota with the proper radio, and root.
If unrEVOked cannot break it; then its a different question and up to your tastes.
jdmba said:
I am no stranger to rooting or to modified ROMs. I will tell you that I am not installing the "buggy beta" that everyone else has jumped on.
Personally, my plan of attack is to wait until unrEVOked gets the real OTA and sees if they can root it. If they can, then this is a no brainer ... avoid the "buggy beta" at all costs, install the pure ota with the proper radio, and root.
If unrEVOked cannot break it; then its a different question and up to your tastes.
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Its actually not too buggy. I understand your perspective, but I encourage you to give the rom a try for yourself. Its reversible!
There is also a thread in the dev section outlining all of the confirmed bugs. All of which are minor, and most have been patched. There are no deal breakers here.
The only potential for failure lies within flashing the radio. Do your research on the process.
It's very usable for me.
It is very usable. I even made a Rom based on it.
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I'm actually surprised how many posts there are about the Leaked 2.2
Personally, I'd wait until the official one is released and then wait until it can be installed without the OTA. Then you preserve your root and other capabilities.
For those who can afford to mess up their phone and play with new stuff, I can understand... but a lot of people are clearly doing this that shouldn't be.
People who don't have patience, able to read and follow instructions and pull their batteries after waiting a minute or two, shouldn't be doing this.
Also, wait until the official release and try to search for help with all the leaked messages that have been posted. Will make getting real info for the real release harder to find.
Welp
Regrettably, unrEVOked just learned that the 2.2 for the EVO does remove root; and I have to assume that it will be the same for the Incredible. For those of us not willing to use the "buggy beta" this is bad news. I am sure they will be working on it, but it means sitting on 2.1 for a longer time.
I don't see how people are saying the beta is buggy. I've used it, I've used.sky raider.2.0, and I have developed and tested a Rom based off of it, jdfroyo v1
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jdkoreclipse said:
I don't see how people are saying the beta is buggy. I've used it, I've used.sky raider.2.0, and I have developed and tested a Rom based off of it, jdfroyo v1
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No major bugs here either, but the beta does seem to drain my battery like crazy fast and the Temp was higher than normal, I just flashed back to 2.1 to see if there will be a difference.
Edit: back on 2.1 and the battery usage seems much better and cooler, on 2.2 it was around 105°F and on 2.1 around 97.7°F
Huh?
jdkoreclipse said:
I don't see how people are saying the beta is buggy. I've used it, I've used.sky raider.2.0, and I have developed and tested a Rom based off of it, jdfroyo v1
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Really?
LEAKED Stock 2.2 ROM - **CONFIRMED BUGS**
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738634
[PATCH] Bug fixes for leaked Froyo -- Updated v3 (Fixes Gmail, Market & Superuser)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738799
Leaked 2.2 Data Connectivity Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738995
At least they changed the topic heading of the original release thread to say "Some Bugs".
I am not going to preach from the mountaintop here ... people want to go thru these fairly dangerous hurdles to install the bugged rom, they can go for it. This is 1 cliff I ain't leaping off of (at least while there is hope that the real 2.2 will be shortly released and hopefully rooted)

Stock Android

Hey guys i am just wondering if there is a rom that has stock 2.2 or 2.3 android for the phone. No touch wiz or anything. I looked around but i just foiund 2.3 video, which i assume is not yet released.
2.3 is not released officially yet. if your looking for stock 2.2 try eclair or if you want 2.2.1 try froyo.
both can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846913
search for cyanogen mod 7 there is a beta out
the 2.2 and 2.2.1 all have samsung touchwiz, i think only 2.3 doesn't have touch wiz, someone correct me if im wrong...
lcgmadeira said:
the 2.2 and 2.2.1 all have samsung touchwiz, i think only 2.3 doesn't have touch wiz, someone correct me if im wrong...
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Yeah, you are right that 2.3 does not have touchwiz. Maybe it has something to do with a fact that there is no 2.3 for a single Samsung phone yet?
Rytkonen said:
Yeah, you are right that 2.3 does not have touchwiz. Maybe it has something to do with a fact that there is no 2.3 for a single Samsung phone yet?
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lol, maybe... I read somewhere that 2.3 won't have touchwiz, it will be android stock... i dot know if its a good or bad thing... Still waiting.
Wow! The misinformation in this thread is stunning....
The Android versions are as follows:
2.1 - Eclair
2.2 - Froyo
2.2.1 - Froyo
2.3 - Gingerbread
Now, as for touchwiz. The Galaxy S version will almost certainly have touchwiz. It will be very similar to our phones right now, but with the power of little Gingerbread Men.
Next, as for not a single Samsung phone not having 2.3. That is simply wrong. The Nexus S (a Samsung phone) was released with 2.3 over a month ago. However, because it is also Google branded, it does come with stock 2.3. The reason we don't have 2.3 on the Galaxy S yet is because they are adding touchwiz and all the other Samsung crap. And unfortunately, the hardware difference between the Nexus S and the Galaxy S is big enough that an easy port is not possible until Samsung releases the 2.3 source code for out Galaxy S.
All of the stock samsung ROMs are ALL with the touch-wiz.....
If you want there are many cooked roms without it, or CyanogenMod Beta that is gingerbread 2.3.....
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CyanogenMod Beta i guess is what i al looking for

[Q] Pulling ARIA Flash 10.1 Support to a Custom Rom

The recent OTA/Downloadable 2.2 update from ATT on the Aria states that there is "Adobe Flash 10.1 compatibility " within the update.
Are there any plans to tinker with the rom update and make an updated rooted liberated rom, or are there issues with the bootloader that stop that from happening?
If not, are there plans to pull that "Adobe Flash 10.1 compatibility" out of the stock rom and implement it in something like CM7 or another custom rom?
I don't see anyone talking about it, but it seems like the flash compatibility (assuming it's not just a custom "lite" version of flash) isn't limited to the hardware of the phone anymore.
the cake is a lie
armv6 doesnt support flash only flash lite
Well thats pretty disappointing. I currently have cmod6 on my aria, and it doesn't do any kind of flash, but I had flash lite working in my original pre-root phone.
I mean, if cm7 includes 10.1 lite, Ill just update it. I'm just wondering if anyone is making the effort to include the new stuff from 2.2 in any new custom rom build.
xybur said:
Well thats pretty disappointing. I currently have cmod6 on my aria, and it doesn't do any kind of flash, but I had flash lite working in my original pre-root phone.
I mean, if cm7 includes 10.1 lite, Ill just update it. I'm just wondering if anyone is making the effort to include the new stuff from 2.2 in any new custom rom build.
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There is gene poole's liberated aria 2.2.2 which is built from the most recent att aria update. In the dev forum here.
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drowningchild said:
the cake is a lie
armv6 doesnt support flash only flash lite
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xybur said:
Well thats pretty disappointing. I currently have cmod6 on my aria, and it doesn't do any kind of flash, but I had flash lite working in my original pre-root phone.
I mean, if cm7 includes 10.1 lite, Ill just update it. I'm just wondering if anyone is making the effort to include the new stuff from 2.2 in any new custom rom build.
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The processor in the Aria is not supported by Adobe Flash 10.1. You can download and install it, but it will not run. It will force close.
and cm7 will never have flash lite in it(not opensource) its part of sense roms
drowningchild said:
the cake is a lie
armv6 doesnt support flash only flash lite
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According to an email I received from AT&T this morning, the cake is real. (I can't vouch for the spoon.)
An important software update to Android 2.2 is available for your HTC Aria.
Updates include:
• Performance enhancements*
• Adobe Flash 10.1 compatibility
• Mobile Hotspot** and Tethering Support†
• Improved email and calendar features and functionality
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It wouldn't surprise me that AT&T's marketing division got the facts wrong. But AT&T is directly telling people that Flash 10.1 will work on the Aria.
dagwud said:
According to an email I received from AT&T this morning, the cake is real. (I can't vouch for the spoon.)
It wouldn't surprise me that AT&T's marketing division got the facts wrong. But AT&T is directly telling people that Flash 10.1 will work on the Aria.
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Flash doesn't support the Aria's processor, period.
Flash lite doesn't support AOSP, hence the reason it's only on the stock ROMs.
AT&T clearly doesn't know what they're talking about lol.
I installed it on mine. Just go here: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-flash-10-1-on-android-2-1-eclair-devices/
Ok...
There are two requirements Adobe has for installing Flash on Android.
1. Froyo
2. Arm7 processor
The previous post links to a method of installing Flash on Eclair. Fine and dandy. However, even if you can manage to meet requirement 1, it is absolutely impossible to meet requirement 2! Why is this so?
The Aria has an Arm6 processor and not the Arm7 processor that is required for Flash to function.
In the end, it is possible to install Flash on the phone, but it will not work because the processor isn't supported. Claims to the contrary are untrue, and most likely the result of the phone still using Flash Lite to draw from for support.

Will htc at least release 2.3 gingerbread for wildfire?

I am just curious will htc release 2.3 android for wildfire??? Anyone know???
Best regards
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Unlikely. But, this has officially neither been confirmed nor denied. Someone sent a mail to HTC, and, got a standard automated reply "We will notify you if we are providing 2.3 for Wildfire... bla bla bla"
Anyhow, as I said previously, in my personal opinion, it is unlikely. More so now, because the Wildfire S is out.
Good point there... I mean it is kind of strange that we have custom roms for wildfire based on gingerbread that work quite fine,and then we dont have original rom with gingerbread... and then stupidest move of all is to lock bootloader and all that malarky that makes froyo unrootable...
Am I right or wrong???
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dragdusan said:
Good point there... I mean it is kind of strange that we have custom roms for wildfire based on gingerbread that work quite fine,and then we dont have original rom with gingerbread... and then stupidest move of all is to lock bootloader and all that malarky that makes froyo unrootable...
Am I right or wrong???
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It's to force people to ditch their Wildfire and get their new line of phones. Simple and cold business logic.
why the hell do u need official gingerbread on ur wildfire. the official froyo for wildfire updated the bootloader and implemented greater security on the bootloader, so that no one knows whether it will be rooted or not. 4months of work without any result.
i dont want official gingerbread on my device. and i dont want any further security on my bootloader. need someone to root my wildfire.
the answer to ur question is wildfire is not getting any official gingerbread. the 3 network in UK has already confirmed that.
the reason is simple. wildfire s is releasing this may, which decreases the htc support to the original wildfire.
The hero still got 2.1 after.the desire was out
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brilldoctor said:
The hero still got 2.1 after.the desire was out
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Hero wasn't a budget device but the Wildfire is.
HTC Tattoo for an example is still on 1.6.
Also HTC UK said on facebook, "Because of the capabilities of the wildfire we think its best for now to keep the wildfire on 2.2"
Which makes no sense, Gingerbread is even faster.
bharatgaddameedi said:
why the hell do u need official gingerbread on ur wildfire. the official froyo for wildfire updated the bootloader and implemented greater security on the bootloader, so that no one knows whether it will be rooted or not. 4months of work without any result.
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Err.... I did update to 2.2 official without changing my HBOOT. How? I waited for the modified version without the HBOOT image
I`ll gladly do the same for 2.3 official.
Alex_GP said:
Err.... I did update to 2.2 official without changing my HBOOT. How? I waited for the modified version without the HBOOT image
I`ll gladly do the same for 2.3 official.
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great news dude. it means that even u can still root ur froyo wildfire now. ur patience benefitted u. to be patient is what i learn frm u.
and where is that modified version of official froyo update. can u give me a download link of it.
i think the modified version definately has an updated radio, updated recovery image, and other updated things leaving the HBOOT unupdated. do u face any problems with this issue.
i think the modified update is OTA UPDATE zip file. and in that ota zip file, we will see firmware.zip .
the firmware .zip contains boot.img and HBOOT file
i think u replaced the boot.img and HBOOT with an older version eclair RUU. am i correct
creators of the modified version, pls let me know how u did that.
edit:
oh, sorry i got it.
so, u first had a rooted phone and then u made update with ROOTED OFFICIAL UPDATE.ZIP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9890520&postcount=4
it`s v0.0, but i`m running V0.1.
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Gingerbread Sense would be slow on our device. HTC won't do such a stupid thing. They will force people the upgrade the phones.
ShyamSasi said:
Gingerbread Sense would be slow on our device. HTC won't do such a stupid thing. They will force people the upgrade the phones.
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really. how would be the gingerbread sense in custom roms. havent tasted them yet
bharatgaddameedi said:
really. how would be the gingerbread sense in custom roms. havent tasted them yet
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No one has, because Gingerbread Sense does not boot on the Wildfire. Atleast yet.
Gingerbread is pretty light, It has the exact requirements of Froyo.
It will not run slow, there are custom roms that prove that.
HTC is just forcing you to buy a new phone.
I think I'll go Samsung next time.
From my expirence with samsung - DONT!! My tab has had no updates, is laggy (as all other galaxy s devices are) I would reccomend a higher end htc
brilldoctor said:
From my expirence with samsung - DONT!! My tab has had no updates, is laggy (as all other galaxy s devices are) I would reccomend a higher end htc
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I wouldn't. They are all shipping with locked bootloaders now - ala SE. So, if you wish to have stuff like Root and Custom ROM's, not good at all.
Skye Menjou said:
Gingerbread is pretty light, It has the exact requirements of Froyo.
It will not run slow, there are custom roms that prove that.
HTC is just forcing you to buy a new phone.
I think I'll go Samsung next time.
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+1 on samsung. I myself am thinking of getting a Galaxy Ace. Rooted my friend's ace yesterday - it was so easy! Just psneuter (superoneclick) is enough - and you have full system r/w access. Trying to get CWM running on it now
Actually, a lot of the new SE phones are supposed to ship with unlockable bootloaders. As far as I know, anyway. Neo, Arc and Play, at least. These seem to be fairly high-end.
Just wondering whether they will back out soon like they did with PS3's OtherOS option.
3xeno said:
I wouldn't. They are all shipping with locked bootloaders now - ala SE. So, if you wish to have stuff like Root and Custom ROM's, not good at all.
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That's why my tab Is stock. With the wildfire it was as simple as unrevoked and then hit install rom in clockworkmod whilst the Samsung devices you need to mess with odin and there are no rrus to go back to stock
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[Q] question on 4g update(s)

Hey folks I have a question on the MT4g OTA update.
Have any of you gotten yours yet, or has it will it be released soon?
Any Devs working on a cooked stock update with sense 3.0 rom?
I'm trying to prepare for this update and want to stay with the stock rom for the MT4G OTA release with sense 3.0 and a nice kernal to go with it.
Please share your news with me on this, i'm kinda starting to feel the wear on flashing so many roms. I use currently RG 2.0, anything really new with the new 2.1?
Let me know thanks.
jay4mont78 said:
Hey folks I have a question on the MT4g OTA update.
Have any of you gotten yours yet, or has it will it be released soon?
Any Devs working on a cooked stock update with sense 3.0 rom?
I'm trying to prepare for this update and want to stay with the stock rom for the MT4G OTA release with sense 3.0 and a nice kernal to go with it.
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Have the been to the Dev section? Kinda hard to miss the Sense 3.0 ROM.
The upcoming OTA will not be Sense 3.0, but instead a "mySense" variant of Sense 2.1.
To be honest there has been no confirmation of gingerbread for the mt4g. the only indication we have is the leaked rom. So yes, it exists, and yes it will be released eventually, but it could be months from now. look at the Droid X - they've been running a leaked GB rom for months now.
kimbernator said:
To be honest there has been no confirmation of gingerbread for the mt4g. the only indication we have is the leaked rom. So yes, it exists, and yes it will be released eventually, but it could be months from now. look at the Droid X - they've been running a leaked GB rom for months now.
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Although no date has been announced, T-Mobile employees have had the OTA on their MT4G's for a month now. That's usually a pretty sure sign that an update is coming soon.

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