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Hey guys, just curious since I havent gotten a chance to use a rooted phone yet.
-When google comes out with 2.2 froyo update, are we able to update it from a rooted rom or does it have to be under stock condition?
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
You'd probably have to wait until someone post the stock rom of froyo, and then flash that.
Or flash on of the numerous stock ROMs that already exist, and get OTA like the rest of us.
Or wait for cyan for his release which I believe will be soon after the official release.
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
This is a complete non issue. The stock 2.2 rom may very well be available to flash here before you recieve the ota if its a rolling release. If not it will be a close race. BTW, The ota looks for a stock officially signed recovery to install itself with, if you do not have one the ota will fail.
jamesyb0i said:
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
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Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
ill just wait for cyano to release its froyo version...
I'd be willing to bet that the features present in 2.2 will reach a version of CM before they reach any non-rooted N1. I'm just saying... we already have some of the features currently, i.e. customizable trackball notifications.
that really just depends on when google pushes the sources of 2.2 into AOSP. so chances are that a stock 2.2 will be available sooner than a cyanogen 2.2, but it will be worth the wait
3Shirts said:
Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
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cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
jamesyb0i said:
cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
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well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
walie said:
well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
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bazinga!!!
he tasks me, he tasks me.
but naw switched to enom's for now, miss trackball unlock but allgud/ battery heaps better
PrawnPoBoy said:
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
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That's not true. I did a warranty replacement a while back and restored the phone to stock before sending it back. I used the SAPPIMG.zip method to restore the shipping ROM, recovery, and radio. After rebooting and setting up the phone, I was offered the OTA update and the OTA completed successfully. Being bootloader unlocked did not affect my ability to get OTA updates.
A little confusion here it seems and I will throw out my understanding. An ota will work if it does not have to access an officially signed recovery, if it does and does not find one it will fail. Once you have installed a custom recovery going back to the stock one will not help in this regard because it is no longer officially signed. 2.2 will require an officially signed recovery to install and everything I read says it will be seen, it will download, then it will fail to install. If this is incorrect than I look forward to learning more about this question as it keeps popping up over and over. I have yet to hear from any owner who was able to update from 2.0 to 2.1 after having installed a custom recovery, seems like there would have been many....
hi all
i got 3 branded wildfire and want to debrand it, before i do, is this the latest official rom to use?
RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.25.405.1_Radio_13.45.55.24_3.35 .15.3
1_release_142189_signed.exe
i,m not bothered about rooting etc, just want stable unbranded phone
cheers
Thats Eclair. If you want FroYo, there are safe ROM's (With just the HBOOT Removed) on the Wildfire Android Development Forum. (2.22.405 and 2.25.720)
That apart, if you want to stick with Eclair, 1.37 is the latest one.
thanks for the reply
i,m not bothered about froyo yet as i,m sure that will be done automatically when times comes but for now i'll stick eclair.
is there a link or anything where i can get 1.37 to use for debranding similar to the 1.25 above.
cheers
Thats Eclair. If you want FroYo, there are safe ROM's (With just the HBOOT Removed) on the Wildfire Android Development Forum. (2.22.405 and 2.25.720)
That apart, if you want to stick with Eclair, 1.37 is the latest one.
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i think this is the latest eclair:
RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.
25_release_151892_signed.exe
aermua said:
i think this is the latest eclair:
RUU_Buzz_HTC_WWE_1.37.405.1_Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.
25_release_151892_signed.exe
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Yes, that's the latest Eclair. But remember, if you do get Eclair, and then, get FroYo via the official OTA update, you will lose root capability.
It can be found here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Buzz
hi
thanks for getting back to me, ermm i,m not really bothered about root.
as long as the phone is stable and works perfectly i,m happy, but i do understand i have to use unrevoked 1st so i can use the above rom.
thanks
Hi, all.
First timer here. Got the wife a Hero for X-mas. Notice it's slow sometimes, so thought I'd upgrade. It's on 1.5 now. I ultimately want to get on Android 2.1. However, in the phone settings info screen, there is no update option. I thought this might be due to the firmware not being up-to-date so was going to start by upgrading that. But I don't know which ROM to use.
I bought the unlocked phone in Switzerland, but it was clearly imported from the UK. I see on the HTC site there are several ROMs which are carrier specific. There seems to be a generic ROM on the bottom of the HTC page which says "ROM Upgrade for HTC Hero" with no specific carrier. This one looks to be the generic ROM, which I should use. Is that the case?
I've tried looking for a general tutorial, but they all also seem to be tied to carriers (Sprint, T-Mobile, etc).
Cheers.
Hi Bozo,
firstly do not be tempted to update your firmware to the latest one on the HTC web site, if you do that and also update to the HTC 2.1 ROM, you will not be able to ROOT your Hero without firstly downgrading again.
ROOTing your Hero will allow you to go beyond 2.1 to 2.2 ROMs, these are mostly in development at the moment but I've tried several so far and have settled on Android Version Froyd Villain1.6 (2.2.1) which has been great for several weeks with no crashes and plenty quick.
Hope this helps!
There are plenty of web guides on how to ROOT your Hero also Youtube videos.
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Hi Bozo,
if you do that and also update to the HTC 2.1 ROM, you will not be able to ROOT your Hero without firstly downgrading again..
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There are plenty of web guides on how to ROOT your Hero also Youtube videos.
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Thanks for the reply. Is it the firmware that prevents rooting, the ROM, or both?
I've seen several of the videos on rooting. But again, they often reference a specific carrier model Hero, mostly Sprint.
I'd check out this post. Ignore the stuff about updating RADIO though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827593
Personally I use Cyanogen 6.1.0 with FlyKernel 12a (applying the FlyKernel CM fix first). Then custom tweaking the Cyanogen setup. If you were UK I'd offer to do it for you
takuhii said:
Ignore the stuff about updating RADIO though.
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Another noob question for you.
Why ignore the radio update?
Betty_Swallocks said:
Another noob question for you.
Why ignore the radio update?
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I can't think of any reason to ignore the radio update, it's made a big difference for a lot of people.
CobraKev007 said:
Hi Bozo,
firstly do not be tempted to update your firmware to the latest one on the HTC web site, if you do that and also update to the HTC 2.1 ROM, you will not be able to ROOT your Hero without firstly downgrading again.
ROOTing your Hero will allow you to go beyond 2.1 to 2.2 ROMs, these are mostly in development at the moment but I've tried several so far and have settled on Android Version Froyd Villain1.6 (2.2.1) which has been great for several weeks with no crashes and plenty quick.
Hope this helps!
There are plenty of web guides on how to ROOT your Hero also Youtube videos.
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I was able to root my phone after upgrading to the official 2.1 ROM.
There are many great ROMs to choose from; CM6.1, Froyo 2.2.1 Final (by Elelinux), FroydVillain 1.7.0 My personal preference would be Elelinux's one.
Just go for Feeyo's 2.3 1.0.1 best one ever.
ikmax said:
Just go for Feeyo's 2.3 1.0.1 best one ever.
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I second that!
I am a flash-aholic and have tried nearly all the 2.3 roms. By far the best is cronos 1.0.1 It is uber fast (faster than any 2.1 I have tried) and has a brilliant forum community, with the dev responding quickly to any bugs.
Have fun!
Why shouldn't he update to the official 2.1 Rom? It is said to be rootable with Universalandroot! (see http://blog.23corner.com/2010/08/30/universal-androot-1-6-2-beta-5/#more-407) So getting the official 2.1 would also be a reasonable step towards more speed!
And I don't see a downside of doing so...
Thanks for all the info guys.
Is it possible to brick a Hero when attempting to root it?
Cheers!
HomerJayS said:
Why shouldn't he update to the official 2.1 Rom? It is said to be rootable with Universalandroot! So getting the official 2.1 would also be a reasonable step towards more speed!
And I don't see a downside of doing so...
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That will update his HBoot to 1.76.007 which is a perfected SPL.
awaisj said:
That will update his HBoot to 1.76.007 which is a perfected SPL.
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And what does this exactly mean?
Or in other words: What are the consequences thereof?
Sorry, I'm also just getting into the whole Rooting stuff
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
it's up to you to decide what rom you want.
you have to test it for yourself, and see if you like it or not.
All we can do is point out some possible candidates
I know this may seem stupid to a lot of people on here, but I want to switch from my rooted 2.1 Aria and update it to 2.2. The main reason I want to do this is for the apps that are only available for froyo (I loved my rooted phone, but I also want the update).
I downloaded the RUU 2.2 from the HTC site and went through the process. The only problem is that my phone did not update. The info on the phone says that it's version 2.2.2, but the UI and everything else is still 2.1 format. Basically the brain is froyo, but the body is eclair. I contacted customer service, and they said that I would need to send my phone in for repair since it was rooted (i.e. broken to them).
I would rather not send in my phone and deal with them. Can anyone think of any solution to this problem? Thanks!
sqs said:
I know this may seem stupid to a lot of people on here, but I want to switch from my rooted 2.1 Aria and update it to 2.2. The main reason I want to do this is for the apps that are only available for froyo (I loved my rooted phone, but I also want the update).
I downloaded the RUU 2.2 from the HTC site and went through the process. The only problem is that my phone did not update. The info on the phone says that it's version 2.2.2, but the UI and everything else is still 2.1 format. Basically the brain is froyo, but the body is eclair. I contacted customer service, and they said that I would need to send my phone in for repair since it was rooted (i.e. broken to them).
I would rather not send in my phone and deal with them. Can anyone think of any solution to this problem? Thanks!
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Well, it's too late now, but you could have simply installed the Liberated 2.2.2 update from this site -- which is basically the AT&T official update with the bloatware removed and it lets you retain root access on your phone.
Anyway, what makes you believe that your UI is still 2.1? Honestly there is very little visually different between 2.1 and 2.2.2 so it wouldn't look very different anyway.
sqs said:
I downloaded the RUU 2.2 from the HTC site and went through the process. The only problem is that my phone did not update. The info on the phone says that it's version 2.2.2, but the UI and everything else is still 2.1 format. Basically the brain is froyo, but the body is eclair.
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The version of HTC Sense did not change much between Android 2.1 and 2.2. If you phone says that it's version 2.2.2 then the update probably took. As the previous posted mentioned, you are not going to see much difference in the UI. If you look in the list of installed apps, you should see some news, including the Wifi Hotspot.
Thanks for the replies so far. The reason why I say it's still a 2.1 UI is because from what I've seen of screenshots of froyo, it looks different. The froyo interface (at least from what I've seen) looks like the current one that cyanogenmod is using. I know the current cyanogenmod is based on Gingerbread, but I was thinking that there wasn't a big difference between gingerbread and froyo, while the big difference change was between eclair and froyo. Also, my hboot version is 1.02. Is this a sign of 2.1 or 2.2?
I am still not able to install 2.2 only apps (such as Flash 10.2) on my phone, which is why I'm thinking it's still partially stuck in 2.1.
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Thanks for the replies so far. The reason why I say it's still a 2.1 UI is because from what I've seen of screenshots of froyo, it looks different. The froyo interface (at least from what I've seen) looks like the current one that cyanogenmod is using. I know the current cyanogenmod is based on Gingerbread, but I was thinking that there wasn't a big difference between gingerbread and froyo, while the big difference change was between eclair and froyo. Also, my hboot version is 1.02. Is this a sign of 2.1 or 2.2?
I am still not able to install 2.2 only apps (such as Flash 10.2) on my phone, which is why I'm thinking it's still partially stuck in 2.1.
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You will never be able to install Flash on your device since it requires an ARM7 processor, ours have a ARM6 (at least until Adobe build a version that does not require the ARM7 instructions set). If your Hboot is 1.02, then your phone DID take the update - you are stuck with it until if/when someone is able find a new root exploit.
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Ok thanks a lot for that! I'm still learning all the intricacies of the droid processing system. Let's hope for a root for 2.2 soon.
sqs said:
Thanks for the replies so far. The reason why I say it's still a 2.1 UI is because from what I've seen of screenshots of froyo, it looks different. The froyo interface (at least from what I've seen) looks like the current one that cyanogenmod is using. I know the current cyanogenmod is based on Gingerbread, but I was thinking that there wasn't a big difference between gingerbread and froyo, while the big difference change was between eclair and froyo. Also, my hboot version is 1.02. Is this a sign of 2.1 or 2.2?
I am still not able to install 2.2 only apps (such as Flash 10.2) on my phone, which is why I'm thinking it's still partially stuck in 2.1.
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You're thinking of the updated AOSP look. The Aria uses the HTC Sense UI which didnt change at all on the Aria between 2.1 and 2.2 (not visually anyway). hboot 1.02 is definitely an update to 2.2.
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, same Rom, same Version/Build, still receive automatic android/system updates, etc, and etc, (but with root)?
M: T-Mobile G2
V: 2.3.4
BV: 12.52.60.25U_26.08.04.30_M3
KV: 2.6.35.10-g96de068
B#: 2.15.531.3 CL82286 release-keys
It's been agonizing waiting for an easy and effective root since the 2.3.4 update and I'm now considering following one of the numerous methods that can be found around the forums, specifically, the downgrade/root/upgrade method.
My concern is that the majority of the methods described all end with using a custom rom such as Virtuous, Cyanogenmod, etc--- but I don't want a custom rom. I want exactly what Rom the T-Mobile G2 is supposed to have, but with Root. I also want my system to update as it normally would.
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, still receive android updates, etc, etc?
Side Note:
I did try the "G2 2.3.4 OTA 1-Click temp-root" method however I couldn't seem to get it to work. The thread can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220595
Any thoughts on upgrading back to the stock rom (plus root) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-- HobbesG2
HobbesG2 said:
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, same Rom, same Version/Build, still receive automatic android/system updates, etc, and etc, (but with root)?
M: T-Mobile G2
V: 2.3.4
BV: 12.52.60.25U_26.08.04.30_M3
KV: 2.6.35.10-g96de068
B#: 2.15.531.3 CL82286 release-keys
It's been agonizing waiting for an easy and effective root since the 2.3.4 update and I'm now considering following one of the numerous methods that can be found around the forums, specifically, the downgrade/root/upgrade method.
My concern is that the majority of the methods described all end with using a custom rom such as Virtuous, Cyanogenmod, etc--- but I don't want a custom rom. I want exactly what Rom the T-Mobile G2 is supposed to have, but with Root. I also want my system to update as it normally would.
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, still receive android updates, etc, etc?
Side Note:
I did try the "G2 2.3.4 OTA 1-Click temp-root" method however I couldn't seem to get it to work. The thread can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220595
Any thoughts on upgrading back to the stock rom (plus root) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-- HobbesG2
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I would argue your G2 is "supposed to have" Cyanogen, but to each their own.
You will need to follow this guide to downgrade if you want to root. And yes, you can flash a pre-rooted pure stock 2.3 ROM. Just search the Development forum and you'll find it. Your phone, however, should not notify you about updates after this - and you don't want it to. If you were to flash an OTA update you would lose root.
The wiki is also very helpful if you still have questions.
If you really want to see what your phone can do try out some custom ROMs after you root. Thousands of HTC Vision users can't be wrong.
Glite is a good alternative too, with the stock theme and launcher, it looks and acts exactly like stock, plus it's lighter and faster
Follow the wiki for root. You'll abandon what you have now, but you can flash a pre-rooted stock ROM after you're rooted. Chances are you'll wanna dabble in non stock ROMs eventually lol. I remember when I first rooted I though I'd never flash a custom ROM lol... ROMs like cm7 are similar to stock but perform better, have more features, and better battery life.
sent from my HTC G2 running MIUI.
martonikaj said:
I remember when I first rooted I though I'd never flash a custom ROM lol
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Yeah, I've known about roms for a long while now but I just never wanted to give up the stock rom because I never wanted to be put in a situation where my markets and/or apps would give me problems, although I do realize how silly the concern is.
I guess I should just bite the bullet and try CM7 out. Worst case scenario I can always go back to boring old stock. And who knows, I might be converted after all.
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I guess I should just bite the bullet and try CM7 out. Worst case scenario I can always go back to boring old stock. And who knows, I might be converted after all.
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Yes, exactly, you can always flash right back if it doesn't suit you. And I, too, was hesitant to flash a custom ROM the first week or so after rooting. But once I did my only regret was that I waited at all.
Alright so I downgraded to v2.2 and established root, etc etc.
I toyed with a couple roms, namely CM7 and I'm incredibly bummed because after researching a bit more on it, I realize that it has issues running google apps such as swype, navigate, market, etc. I use google apps daily for both pleasure and work. It's sort of essential that I have a solid google-app working rom.
I'm debating on upgrading to a rooted gingerbread 2.3.4 however I wanted some advice from the vets who have more experience than I so I can save myself some hard-ache.
I'm looking at G-Lite presently, and think I might give it a try, I hope it has solid use of google apps.
I've been running cyanogen since the G1. I recently tried out the stock gingerbread, and it was OK, but I missed a lot of features that are built into the CM rom, such as the status bar power widget.
One thing I noticed about the stock gingerbread is that is was velvety smooth, which isn't surprising since it is built with the actual hardware drivers. If you are used to the froyo stock rom, then you probably won't miss the extra features.
There are a few rooted stock gingerbread roms in the dev section- Paul O'brien, spookievision, and rr5678 all released stock(-ish) versions.
If you want it more stock than that, you'll have to root it yourself. I'm not sure if rooted stock roms will be able to apply the update successfully. You will probably receive it, but it might break root. Maybe it will work if you keep the stock recovery.
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but I missed a lot of features that are built into the CM rom, such as the status bar power widget.
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People tell me that the versatility and diversity of whistles in CM is inviting but the stability issues make me concerned. For me, reliability will always trump bells&whistles.
gee one said:
One thing I noticed about the stock gingerbread is that is was velvety smooth, which isn't surprising since it is built with the actual hardware drivers. If you are used to the froyo stock rom, then you probably won't miss the extra features.
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I'm using G-Lite 1.0.3 right now and I must say I'm enjoying the simplicity of it and the fact that it is a bare-bone system. I like how it was obviously built with Froyo/Gingerbread in mind. It produced Swype problems but I easily fixed it by using the Swype-Installer.apk found on the Swype Website
[ beta(dot)swype(dot)com ]
That's really the beauty of a rooted android device - you can have exactly what you want on *your* device.
downgrade with stock s-off
Hi all,
I just bought this G2 unlocked with OTA GB (somehow i regret to click upgrade system after reading G2 forum =D).
My G2 :
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFFHBOOT 0.82.0008
MICROP-0425
RADIO 26.08.04.30_M3
eMMC-boot
I really want to root and use HTC sense UI 3.0 my G2. Every thread about downgrading to froyo was for S-ON GB not S-OFF like I have (i assume). It's S-OFF since the first time i bought it.
Could you all help me to choose what method should i use to downgrading my g2, root it, and use custom rom with HTC sense UI.
Thanks a lot guys,,
You're the best