So now that we have a pretty stable sense 3.0/android 2.3.3 rom thanks to virus. Whats next for the evo world? Ice Cream Sandwich AOSP*possibly* will run on evo(ill explain why in paragraph 2).Sense 3.1(or whatever will be next sense)less probable to run(if it does it will have EGL issues up the A**, of course).
At Google IO 2011, google had some pretty cool sh*t([email protected]=dope). But with ice cream sandwich coming, will google up their hardware requirements(possibly,50/50).Especially with those cool google apps coming(google music beta, awesome)
Another topic covered by googleis that a number of vendors:Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, Tmobile, Vodafone, Motorola, and AT&T have comitted to providing the latest updates for their devices for 18 months. Now, the HTC Evo 4G launched on June 4, 2010(Duh),now adding 18 months to that makes it December 4, 2011. Now, Ice Cream Sandwich is *Rumored* to be released in late November or early December. So their is hope evo will get ice cream if its hardware still supports it, but htc may get lazy and still give us sense 1.0.
Remember, that this is all based on my own *opinions*, and is to be taken as possible outcome.
Its a SANDWICH, not a SUNDAY
But I think the Evo could get it, if it meets the specs, and I believe it should.
And with every new release, its always the beginning of the end, but not to let the end be the beginning.
teh roxxorz said:
Its a SANDWICH, not a SUNDAY
But I think the Evo could get it, if it meets the specs, and I believe it should.
And with every new release, its always the beginning of the end, but not to let the end be the beginning.
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oops, my mistake.
Based off off all information gathered at google io and google.com, i beleive it will get it, but will be stuck at sense 1.0, but our devs will fix that.
The promised 18 months of updates is only for hardware released from Google I/O forward. So we will be lucky if we get it.
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GAYTC said "that the Evo 4g doesn't have the required hardware for 2.3 with sense" Which is another excuse to make you buy the new Evo 3D just so they can get more money off you, With that said it's most likely that the Evo 4g won't be getting ice cream and be left behind because of "the required hardware for it".
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Ah don’t you just love the way the Google guys keep on with the sweet names for their Android operating system, sooner or later they will run out of ideas, but not for the next version of their OS which will apparently be called Ice Cream.
According to an article over on the Boy Genius Report by Andrew Munchbach, a report by Pocket-lint says according to “multiple sourse familiar with the matter,” the Android 2.4 Ice Cream operating system is to be released by Google sometime in either June or July of this year.
Furthermore apparently Google is expected to announce this during Google I/O 2011 in San Francisco in May. Android Ice Cream will be the next in a long line for desert-style naming from Google with the Android platform receiving Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread and then Android Honeycomb for Android tables, and now Ice Cream, one wonders where it will all end.
That’s all that’s known about the new operating system no word on just what to expect improvement wise or feature wise when Ice Cream finally makes it into the Android space. Any of our readers care to hazzard a guess at what Android 2.4 Ice Cream will deliver?
Source:
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/01/11/android-2-4-ice-cream-releasing-summertime/
http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2011/01/17/android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-features-we-want/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/37819/google-ice-cream-android-2-4
Nice info, thanks for sharing!
I thought the name would be Ice Cream Sandwich as mentioned in the second link.. still nice
But the versionnumber 2.4 is hard to believe when we are already at 2.3 even before Honeycomb. Even if (which I seriously doubt) Google would seperate their software in 2 different "branches" the newest branch will unlikely have a lower version number.
Just my 2 cents
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do you think the sgs will get any ice cream because i dont
considering how "fast" samsung moves at pushing out upgrades... i think you'll get 2.4 by year 2020
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considering how "fast" samsung moves at pushing out upgrades... i think you'll get 2.4 by year 2020
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No Android 2.4 is not ice cream i'm concluding -considering it's combination of gingerbread/Honeycomb can't see 2.x small bump up - at least i highly doubt so, but what i do hope with 2.4 gets the new GPU acceleration API's, i'm dying for a more fluid user experience. According to this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/next-version-of-android-will-combine-gingerbread-and-honeycomb/
He stated Android updates every six months (similar to Ubuntu), so i presume it's going to be here in May, whelp if that's the case guess i will hold on my Evo until then, although i like the Motorola Bionic for AT&T i'm not leaving Sprint. I have a nice chase discount hook-up definitely not leaving for a 100+ AT&T bill, so i hope EVO 2 have the new iteration of Android.
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/10/andy-rubin-confirms-a-new-nexus-is-coming/
We're gonna be obsolete
Not me I am getting it day one!! That of course if its on T-mobile!!!
I'll stick with my Nexus S until Ice Cream sees a .1 or .2 update, work some bugs out. The Nexus S won't be 18 months old until next May.
ehmm. this year:
phone= NO!
tab= YES.
next year:
phone=YES
tab=yes?
nothing in that post/blog or w/e
says its coming this year.
and google never did and never will bring a new nexus the same year as the nexus S(in this case)if its a phone.it has been confirmed google was looking for a nexus tab for this year.
Well, if it will have better specs than the SGSII, I may sell my Nexus S and pay the difference for the upgrade. What I really want in a phone is stutter-free 720p HD-Video recording which the SGSII will have.
Of course I'd prefer a Nexus family phone over the SGSII, so here's to hoping they release it soon!
Right now, Ice Cream Sandwich is scheduled for release in Q4. Which makes it pretty safe to say we won't see it until Q4 2011 at the earliest. Assuming they make the new Nexus the launch platform (or at least launch it with Ice Cream Sandwich stock), that means we're not going to see it until September or later, which would be roughly on par with the amount of time that passed between the releases of the Nexus One and Nexus S.
In short, I don't think we need to be imminently concerned. Anyway, I expect Ice Cream Sandwich will get released officially for the Nexus S in relatively short order once it is available. Google has been pretty good about that to date with the Nexus One. The only thing that might be considered "obsolete" about the Nexus S by then will be its hardware, and if the way the market has been developing lately is any indication, that'll happen whether Google releases a new Nexus or not. Everyone here knew when the Nexus S was released that dual core and other fun things were just over the horizon, and they bought it anyway. None of this is really news.
hmm, since ice cream sandwich is only coming in q4, i guess it's safe to say this 'new phone' won't come out till then. and q4 is kinda the time we got our nexus s. makes perfect sense to me
EDIT: aw dammit, i started typing then afked. now i realise my post just looks like a summary of zorak90's.
Yeah, so far Google's track record has been roughly every 11 months. So Q4 would make sense.
The announcement about 18 month support for phones is perfect for me, I get free hardware upgrades with my plan at 18 month intervals.
18 months is a long time in the cell world and I'll revisit what i want as a device then. I know my current one is probably a little outdated, but it's fast for what i need, it's got prompt (well somewhat.. still waiting on 2.3.4) updates and will probably be supported for much longer then the 18 months (if the nexus one is any indication)
I'm not too worried.
Im not surprised they anounced a new nexus it is Google I/O.
Next I/O wont be till next year...after the timeframe the next nexus is due
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Let me just point out- since the Nexus One is playing a prominent role in this discussion- that although I don't expect the Nexus One to not get Ice Cream Sandwich, I also think the ground to expect it will is shaky. Let's all remember that the Nexus One was released in January 2010, which was sixteen months ago now. Ice Cream Sandwich isn't due out until September at the earliest. Now Google seems to be pushing the 18 month support standard, which would put Ice Cream Sandwich outside the N1's support period. Since these announcements all came on the same day, it seems to me that Google is (among other, more honorable motives) maneuvering to excuse itself from the responsibility of upgrading the N1 should doing so prove impractical for them.
I too am excited, and if Google does what they did with the Nexus S we could see it launch with Ice Cream. I am just hoping they bring more new things. I am so buying it if it comes to T-Mobile.
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from what was mentioned before, it's not going to be the SGS2, but rather another incarnation of LG Dual Core
some one already leaked this out a couple of months back, just search the forum messages
The Nexus has been the device we’ve used to set the bar. The market works in cycles that revolves around the holidays and summertime. We’ll make an announcement in the future.
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Christmas
And I'll bet Sprint gets it at release (in addition to T-Mobile)
This announcements seems like bad timing for the Nexus S 4G return window!
Looks like I will be holding onto my Evo till Q4...
They didn't really confirm anything about a new Nexus. They did, however, say they're gonna have Ice Cream Sandwich out in about 6 months, which is realistically when a new Nexus would come out. So...probably yes, but till like a year after the Nexus S launched. Money on December or so.
the article was rather obscure just saying that another google branded phone will be developed some time in the future...
we were all expecting quite a lot when we heard the nexus s was going to be released considering samsung did not follow through on some of the other features promised early on during development (gorilla glass, tv out, hd video).
despite this im still happy and to all our nexus one people there are very few hardware differences between the two so i doubt that google will stop updating on that front. in fact the upcoming "ice cream sandwich (TBA Q4)" was said to start standardizing os' between all android users on stock roms while still allowing a jumping off platform for developers and mod communities
I'll be going iPhone5 in september.
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Let me just point out- since the Nexus One is playing a prominent role in this discussion- that although I don't expect the Nexus One to not get Ice Cream Sandwich, I also think the ground to expect it will is shaky. Let's all remember that the Nexus One was released in January 2010, which was sixteen months ago now. Ice Cream Sandwich isn't due out until September at the earliest. Now Google seems to be pushing the 18 month support standard, which would put Ice Cream Sandwich outside the N1's support period. Since these announcements all came on the same day, it seems to me that Google is (among other, more honorable motives) maneuvering to excuse itself from the responsibility of upgrading the N1 should doing so prove impractical for them.
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your wrong on the suport part and the 18 month thing.
the 18month thing is excluded from the nexus line.
all nexus's will get all update's until the device cant handle it anymore.
the 18month rule is for all the other devices out there
???
I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..
Forgetabout a new update lets see source!
Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
First tablet to market with Android 3.0
First tablet with Android 3.1
Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too
As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it
No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
hdtvpower
My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...
I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows
Update on Ice Cream Sandwich
by HTC on Friday, October 21, 2011 at 10:14pm
Since Google unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich earlier this week, HTC has been looking closely at the new OS's features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. We're a recognized industry leader in providing fast and consistent upgrades to our Android devices (see what Engadget had to say about our upgrades: http://engt.co/qMb9nQ), and Ice Cream Sandwich will be no different.
Upgrades require a careful balance of hardware and software to ensure the best possible performance and usability, so please stay tuned as we assess our product portfolio. Our goal is to upgrade as many HTC devices as possible and we'll be sharing details on specific devices and timing in the coming weeks!
Thanks!
i am very much lookin fwd to ICS for my wildfire
Wildfire didn't get official Gingerbread, so I can't see how on earth you people are linking HTC's posts on ICS, and, "waiting/hoping" for official ICS, no less.
I agree with 3xeno.
When they said they'll upgrade as many of their devices, the meant recent
devices. So what, HTC will upgrade the G1 to ICS? No go. And plus, they declared the Wildfire as end-of-life. Nullifying the chance.
I am not trying to say I don't want official ICS; I do want it very much, but there is a slim chance of it happening.
any unofficial rom's available???
At this point, I am more worried about UN-official ICS, official be damned. (Again, I am repeating, Wildfire didn't get official Gingerbread, so I honestly don't know what makes us think even an iota that it will get official ICS)
Remember, the Gingerbread SDK Port DID run on the Wildfire (Jacob's GingerFire Alpha ROM), which is not the case with ICS, and arco has pretty much confirmed any attempts to have an ICS SDK port up and running are going to be futile, because the ICS SDK doesn't support the old ARMv6 CPU, period.
I completely agree with you 3xeno. The HTC Wildfire lacks GPU and the processor is too slow. So there won't be an Official ICS and probably not even an Unofficial port of ICS AOSP.
Well, even the Nexus One won't get official ICS, as Google says its hardware is too old.
Update for all - Wildfire Ice Cream Sandwich
Sorry for cross posting ... i was reading up on the same question, can wildfire work for ICS. Well good news ... someone has already started - unofficially. Its still being worked upon but seems there is hope.
Check the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355189
Officially Ice Cream Sandwich will never be on Wildfire. Its simply not viable for business. No wonder HTC didnt upgrade to Gingerbread.