http://phandroid.com/2011/05/10/andy-rubin-confirms-a-new-nexus-is-coming/
We're gonna be obsolete
Not me I am getting it day one!! That of course if its on T-mobile!!!
I'll stick with my Nexus S until Ice Cream sees a .1 or .2 update, work some bugs out. The Nexus S won't be 18 months old until next May.
ehmm. this year:
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nothing in that post/blog or w/e
says its coming this year.
and google never did and never will bring a new nexus the same year as the nexus S(in this case)if its a phone.it has been confirmed google was looking for a nexus tab for this year.
Well, if it will have better specs than the SGSII, I may sell my Nexus S and pay the difference for the upgrade. What I really want in a phone is stutter-free 720p HD-Video recording which the SGSII will have.
Of course I'd prefer a Nexus family phone over the SGSII, so here's to hoping they release it soon!
Right now, Ice Cream Sandwich is scheduled for release in Q4. Which makes it pretty safe to say we won't see it until Q4 2011 at the earliest. Assuming they make the new Nexus the launch platform (or at least launch it with Ice Cream Sandwich stock), that means we're not going to see it until September or later, which would be roughly on par with the amount of time that passed between the releases of the Nexus One and Nexus S.
In short, I don't think we need to be imminently concerned. Anyway, I expect Ice Cream Sandwich will get released officially for the Nexus S in relatively short order once it is available. Google has been pretty good about that to date with the Nexus One. The only thing that might be considered "obsolete" about the Nexus S by then will be its hardware, and if the way the market has been developing lately is any indication, that'll happen whether Google releases a new Nexus or not. Everyone here knew when the Nexus S was released that dual core and other fun things were just over the horizon, and they bought it anyway. None of this is really news.
hmm, since ice cream sandwich is only coming in q4, i guess it's safe to say this 'new phone' won't come out till then. and q4 is kinda the time we got our nexus s. makes perfect sense to me
EDIT: aw dammit, i started typing then afked. now i realise my post just looks like a summary of zorak90's.
Yeah, so far Google's track record has been roughly every 11 months. So Q4 would make sense.
The announcement about 18 month support for phones is perfect for me, I get free hardware upgrades with my plan at 18 month intervals.
18 months is a long time in the cell world and I'll revisit what i want as a device then. I know my current one is probably a little outdated, but it's fast for what i need, it's got prompt (well somewhat.. still waiting on 2.3.4) updates and will probably be supported for much longer then the 18 months (if the nexus one is any indication)
I'm not too worried.
Im not surprised they anounced a new nexus it is Google I/O.
Next I/O wont be till next year...after the timeframe the next nexus is due
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Let me just point out- since the Nexus One is playing a prominent role in this discussion- that although I don't expect the Nexus One to not get Ice Cream Sandwich, I also think the ground to expect it will is shaky. Let's all remember that the Nexus One was released in January 2010, which was sixteen months ago now. Ice Cream Sandwich isn't due out until September at the earliest. Now Google seems to be pushing the 18 month support standard, which would put Ice Cream Sandwich outside the N1's support period. Since these announcements all came on the same day, it seems to me that Google is (among other, more honorable motives) maneuvering to excuse itself from the responsibility of upgrading the N1 should doing so prove impractical for them.
I too am excited, and if Google does what they did with the Nexus S we could see it launch with Ice Cream. I am just hoping they bring more new things. I am so buying it if it comes to T-Mobile.
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from what was mentioned before, it's not going to be the SGS2, but rather another incarnation of LG Dual Core
some one already leaked this out a couple of months back, just search the forum messages
The Nexus has been the device we’ve used to set the bar. The market works in cycles that revolves around the holidays and summertime. We’ll make an announcement in the future.
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Christmas
And I'll bet Sprint gets it at release (in addition to T-Mobile)
This announcements seems like bad timing for the Nexus S 4G return window!
Looks like I will be holding onto my Evo till Q4...
They didn't really confirm anything about a new Nexus. They did, however, say they're gonna have Ice Cream Sandwich out in about 6 months, which is realistically when a new Nexus would come out. So...probably yes, but till like a year after the Nexus S launched. Money on December or so.
the article was rather obscure just saying that another google branded phone will be developed some time in the future...
we were all expecting quite a lot when we heard the nexus s was going to be released considering samsung did not follow through on some of the other features promised early on during development (gorilla glass, tv out, hd video).
despite this im still happy and to all our nexus one people there are very few hardware differences between the two so i doubt that google will stop updating on that front. in fact the upcoming "ice cream sandwich (TBA Q4)" was said to start standardizing os' between all android users on stock roms while still allowing a jumping off platform for developers and mod communities
I'll be going iPhone5 in september.
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zorak950 said:
Let me just point out- since the Nexus One is playing a prominent role in this discussion- that although I don't expect the Nexus One to not get Ice Cream Sandwich, I also think the ground to expect it will is shaky. Let's all remember that the Nexus One was released in January 2010, which was sixteen months ago now. Ice Cream Sandwich isn't due out until September at the earliest. Now Google seems to be pushing the 18 month support standard, which would put Ice Cream Sandwich outside the N1's support period. Since these announcements all came on the same day, it seems to me that Google is (among other, more honorable motives) maneuvering to excuse itself from the responsibility of upgrading the N1 should doing so prove impractical for them.
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your wrong on the suport part and the 18 month thing.
the 18month thing is excluded from the nexus line.
all nexus's will get all update's until the device cant handle it anymore.
the 18month rule is for all the other devices out there
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So now that we have a pretty stable sense 3.0/android 2.3.3 rom thanks to virus. Whats next for the evo world? Ice Cream Sandwich AOSP*possibly* will run on evo(ill explain why in paragraph 2).Sense 3.1(or whatever will be next sense)less probable to run(if it does it will have EGL issues up the A**, of course).
At Google IO 2011, google had some pretty cool sh*t([email protected]=dope). But with ice cream sandwich coming, will google up their hardware requirements(possibly,50/50).Especially with those cool google apps coming(google music beta, awesome)
Another topic covered by googleis that a number of vendors:Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, Tmobile, Vodafone, Motorola, and AT&T have comitted to providing the latest updates for their devices for 18 months. Now, the HTC Evo 4G launched on June 4, 2010(Duh),now adding 18 months to that makes it December 4, 2011. Now, Ice Cream Sandwich is *Rumored* to be released in late November or early December. So their is hope evo will get ice cream if its hardware still supports it, but htc may get lazy and still give us sense 1.0.
Remember, that this is all based on my own *opinions*, and is to be taken as possible outcome.
Its a SANDWICH, not a SUNDAY
But I think the Evo could get it, if it meets the specs, and I believe it should.
And with every new release, its always the beginning of the end, but not to let the end be the beginning.
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Its a SANDWICH, not a SUNDAY
But I think the Evo could get it, if it meets the specs, and I believe it should.
And with every new release, its always the beginning of the end, but not to let the end be the beginning.
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oops, my mistake.
Based off off all information gathered at google io and google.com, i beleive it will get it, but will be stuck at sense 1.0, but our devs will fix that.
The promised 18 months of updates is only for hardware released from Google I/O forward. So we will be lucky if we get it.
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GAYTC said "that the Evo 4g doesn't have the required hardware for 2.3 with sense" Which is another excuse to make you buy the new Evo 3D just so they can get more money off you, With that said it's most likely that the Evo 4g won't be getting ice cream and be left behind because of "the required hardware for it".
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I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..
Forgetabout a new update lets see source!
Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
First tablet to market with Android 3.0
First tablet with Android 3.1
Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too
As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it
No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
hdtvpower
My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
raviosopr said:
ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
jm9843 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...
I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows
I was just reading a news article on pulse about the testing of a quad core xoom, with ice cream sandwich
Which led me to wonder, will the original xoom get 4.0 sometime after the release of such a device?
Not trying to ask for a definitive answer
I just wonder what the general consensus of peoples opinions on the xoom getting android 4.0
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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Yes, but they said IF hardware is compatible, so they can always say it isn't.
In positive it will be, offical or otherwise. ICS is supposed to have the buttons from android 1.x and 2.x moved into a 3.x screen solution, and we do by all indicatioms have the horsepower to run it. If you think that ICS is to unify phones and tablets, I don't foresee android becoming a quad core only affair partially on phones, ut also on tablets. And we have great devs along with unlockable bootloaders, so my money says we are golden one way or another.
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"One OS that runs everywhere." So ICS will probBly come to the Xoom.
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ı believe xoom will be one of the firsts to get the ICS update.. all versions have different release dates but averagely we can say it has been released in the beginning of the march 2011.. so it has to be updateable with every new android OS which will be announced until the september of 2012..
about the hardware; there still are single cored notebooks which run windows 7 around.. i cant think of an android system that xoom can not hande with its dual core, 1gb of ram and nvidia graphic card..
Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
I imagine it will be second to see ICS
like nexus s got gingerbread first, nexus one got it second
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Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
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The whole idea behind ICS is to get EVERY android device on the same OS for consistancy... This being a GED device means that there is no way it won't get it. I'm sure its not going to work on the G1, but you know what I'm sayin.
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Even tho ICS is mostly in the beta stage for the EVO 4G,Android 5.0 might be pushed out in the summer to beat windows to the punch on the realese of windows 8 for tablets so soon we might get some new goodies for Evo 4g and other devices.
Not likely, though Google execs implied that it could be rolling out in the fall.
"After Android 4 comes 5, and we haven't announced the timing yet, which we're still sorting out," Lockheimer said in an interview with Computerworld on Monday. "There's a lot of engineering work still behind it -- and there's also the question of how to time it.
"In general," he added. "the Android release cadence is one major release a year with some maintenance releases that are substantial still."
That statement would imply a fall 2012 release of Android 5.0, given that Android 4.0 was released last November, he acknowledged.
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Summer would be cool though
Google will most likely try to get 5.0 out close to the time win8 and the iphoney 5 are released to compete with them im thinking probably early to mid summer since last year we had 2 releases gb at beginning of year and ICS towards the end 5.0 was actually put into development shortly after ICS was but is apparently alot more complex than any previous builds and may even be capable of running on other platforms such as home computers similar to win8
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Hey,
While they might complete android 5.0 early they wont release it till other phones with windows and Ios put out their new software just to keep the market competitive, as cool as it would be to get it early! But we just are getting ics, so we can wait for the latest greatest!
Stevo
You can call me a Nexus fanboy I have owned all four Nexus phones every year, liked them all, some more than others. Right now I find the Nexus 4 a good upgrade over the Galaxy Nexus, the N4 has better battery life, a nicer screen once calibrated, and hardware wise much faster and smoother. But at the end of the day, the two phones are not night day radically different.
But some years a Nexus phone is light years ahead of the previous Nexus, I don't feel that with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. Just going on basics, the shape and design of the GNex and N4 are pretty much the same, from afar they look almost the same, and OS wise, not a major difference either, GNex launching with the all new 4.0 ICS, and N4 with JB 4.2, but still, both look pretty much the same with the Holo design etc..
For me the major jaw dropping difference was going from my Nexus-S to Galaxy Nexus, that felt like a major leap forward. The Nexus-S launched as 4" low res screen with Gingerbread, and the Galaxy Nexus launched with the all new ICS 4.0 with a 720p display. When I first got the Galaxy Nexus, and turned it on, I was blown away by it, the high resolution was amazing for the time, and ICS was a huge update over the Nexus-S Gingerbread, it was an amazing big difference in just one year. The two phones were night an day apart.
Again I am comparing them, at what they looked liked, and came with at launch originally. The Nexus-S compared to Galaxy Nexus was HUGE difference, the Galaxy Nexus compared to Nexus 4 not as much.
So what do you think is in store this Fall with the Nexus-Five ? A major leap forward like the N-S to GNex ? Or more of a minor update like GNex to N4 ?
Depends on who the partner is, if HTC I will probably snap the 5 up as HTC know how to make beautiful phones however the N4 is beautiful itself. But I'm assuming it will be faster, etc etc than the current N4 although this phone will last ages to be honest. However tech does move on and whatever the next Nexus is it will be better for that time period boasting newer tech.
I think could go either way. The Nexus-Five could be a major upgrade like N-S to Gnex or just minor like GNex to N4.
I am leaning towards thinking more of a major upgrade due to; Nexus-Five will have a 1080p screen, most likely 4.8" to 5", that's a big update, over the last two Nexus phones both having 4.7" 720p screens. And it will have the all new next generation Android 5,0 Key Lime Pie. Should be a big update there, being a whole new point release. And lastly rumors of the N5 having 3100mAh or so sized battery, that alone would be a huge upgrade in battery life.
Also the big question is, who will be the manufacturer of the new Nexus-Five ? Way to early to say now, but strong rumors of LG again, based off their Optimus Pro phone, but with updated internals, and a 5" screen. Or would not be surprised to see Sony get a shot at making it, and a distant third is getting HTC back into the Nexus game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199130
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194960
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158618
Yay, more Nexus 5 rumors and speculation. There are no hard facts that can be added to this discussion. If another Nexus released, it's going to be an upgrade from the current Nexus 4. This is a given, considering it will be another year after the Nexus 4 released that technology has had to improve, become more cost effective, etc. Aside from that, we cannot really say for sure whether Google is even planning on releasing another Nexus device (although it is extremely likely), much less what it will be like.
Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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If I were to speculate, I would say a newer version of Android, which may or may not be Android 4.3 or 5.0 or w/e they decide to number it (it doesn't matter at all), would be released at I/O as they usually do. Or they may not. Once again, it doesn't matter. Google doesn't release a new phone every time a new version of Android is released.
Jan 2010 - Android 2.1 Eclair released on December 6, 2010 was first used on the Nexus One
May 2010 - Android 2.2 Froyo, no device
December 2010 - Android 2.3 Gingerbread, Nexus S
February 2011 - Android 3.0-3.2 Honeycomb, Motorola Xoom (not that it really counts, in my book)
October 2011 - Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Galaxy Nexus
July 2012 - Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Nexus 7
November 2012 - Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, Nexus 4
Going by history, a new version of Android is fairly likely, with a possible tablet (maybe an update to the Nexus 7). With three straight Nexus phones being released in Q4, a new phone is more likely towards the end of the year. However, this goes back to being entirely speculation and conjecture, and none of us are privy to Google's plans for the future. We can only look at the past, which shows that about twice a year Google releases major updates to Android, with one phone a year, in between October and January.