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Next gen Galaxy S Dual Core!

BGR reports that a prototype samsung Galaxy S2? Is in existence and slated for Q1 2011 release. It aparently has a dual core cpu (orion?). They say it could be the samsung branded Nexus S.
http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/15/dual-core-samsung-galaxy-2-to-succeed-galaxy-s-in-q1-2011/
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Since Samsung doesn't ship out updates for their top notch products as often as expected. I'm sure they ship an inverter, ups or generator with this phone to keep it running throughout the day.

It sure seems like Samsung rolled out the Galaxy S line with Eclaire in a Froyo-age for some reason.
Perhaps Samsung plans to give the Galaxy S line only 1 update (from 2.1 to 2.2) and uses this to pave way for the Google Nexus S (or Samsung Galaxy S2) with the Orion chip and rolling out with 2.3 Gingerbread.
I have a feeling that's the way things will shape up and that Google will leave the Nexus One unsupported after 2.3 Gingerbread and begin supporting the Nexus S. Hence, the Nexus S will be the first to get 3.0 Honeycombe and updates after that.
At this time Google will most likely release a Google-Tablet (same as Nexus S but with 10in TFT screen or less possibly with 7in screen). The G-Tab (if 10in) may possibly allow real multitasking by allowing users to halve the screen and run 2 apps in synchrony (like Windows7 but without the ability to move and resize the windows).
There will be 2-Android Markets; phone and tablet editions.

Samsung has burned me and the way they are treating existing there is no way I'm buying another one no matter how good it sounds on paper. screw the hype, it means nothing.

This is how the tech market moves.. it is kind of ridiculous.

Good news: Tab will get a Gingerbread update

From a Dutch site: http://www.tabletguide.nl/5393/samsung-galaxy-tab-krijgt-gingerbread-update/
Basically it says that Samsung employees in Germany have spread out the word that the Tab will get a Gingerbread update.... eventually (that is, they didn't mention when)
Let the FW leaks silently begin

That's not good news to me, I have a tablet, I want Honeycomb!

Lol. A firmware update is always good to me. Hopefully we'll get at least either.
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2.4
Gingerbread is basically the same as froyo. The only real improvement is making the text selecting more intuitive. I want the api from honeycomb, for dual pane applications and the new 3d interface.
So that means either honeycomb or 2.4. For me 2.4 is probably better, since I will meanly be using the tab as a phone with a tablet profile.
So Sammy, please give us 2.4 and not just 2.3.

yes, nothing to write home about
if you want 2.3 go get the cm7 beta from the dev section
what i want is a honeycomb port

It is a good thing, because of possibly updated drivers we can use in a Honeycomb port

Don't know if I want a honeycomb port. What I want is a performance improvement and Gingerbread is such an improvement. The JIT compiler is optimized again (like it was the case with froyo) and there is a concurrent garbage collector for better memory management.
If honeycomb is even faster (for a non dual core device) yes than I want honeycomb. And as for the beta build, I rather wait for a beta of the 2.4 Frankenstein build LoL
Furthermore, if Samsung is committing itself to an upgrade, this means the tab won't become obsolete when other new 7" tablets hit the market, like for example the Flyer. It means that they have plans to stay on top of this segment, which is great. Maybe they will also improve the built in Samsung software, like for example the browser and the mail app. So no buzz, but rather the real thing for me

I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.

paulshields said:
I'd be happy enough to see Gingerbread arrive (the CM7 beta on here is unfortunately a long way from being a stable release). Not so sure about Honeycomb. That's specifically for tablets without hardware buttons. Would seem out of place on the Tab - which let's be honest is a lot closer to a phone than a tablet, despite being awesome at that. I think Samsung will skip Honeycomb and head for the release that combines Honeycomb UI and phone functionality. Whatever happens, it'll be nice if Samsung supports the device with OS updates for at least a year.
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I think it's relatively easy to map the galaxy Tabs hardware buttons to the software functionality as soon as the source goes AOSP
Then we can get rid of the software buttons too... boom! perfect!
I hope the new launcher doesn't eat up too much performance
and I fudging want GTalk with video support!

I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab

Yay for gingerbread/icecream/icecream sandwich! (or whatever it's called these days) This is comforting news at least, knowing that they are not ditching the smaller device in favor of the shiny new 8.9 and 10 inch models..

Good news, but I want Honeycomb!

maxtcee said:
I'm not so sure but can't we port Samsung galaxay s gingerbread to tab
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I've read that the galaxy tab and galaxy line of phones have similar hardware... makes me think that new versions of android that are released for the phones could potentially work on our tabs.
not sure though, and im not a dev.. but i'd love some fresh official sgt firmware releases before samsung stops supporting the tab

flokey said:
and i fudging want gtalk with video support! :d
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Galaxy S2 confirmed get Android 4.0

Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)

I hope, we won't have to wait that long...

Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...

i don't like to wait.

i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.

me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.

pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.

I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII

You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.

Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
blueseeker said:
For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.

drelite08 said:
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.

Lost Monk said:
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?

I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).

Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...

What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?

I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".

Galaxy Tab 2 (7") announced running ICS

GALAXY TAB 2 7"
Contains photo of what seems to be touchwiz UX for ics.
If you have nothing constructive to contribute, please do not comment.
Article: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...ab-2-android-4.0/&category=classic&postPage=1
Video, close up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAH-Ff7Uouw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This means (most likeley) that we will get ICS in march!
Yéé!

Heard this thing can do the GSM calls as well.

It reminds me of gingercomb :/
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Am I the only one that thinks this is strange? They introduced the "7 Plus" with upgraded h/w (1.2GHz Exynos) and HC and now they're introducing what's basically the original 7" with nothing new but ICS? If the specs are correct the 1GHz chip is probably the now ancient Teg2. The only h/w difference appears to be 1MB of RAM instead of 512K. So what's their strategy? Introduce ICS via newly named devices? Will there be a Tab 10.1 "2" that has ICS? What would that mean to the existing Tab 10.1 "1?" If they tie ICS to launching second versions of their existing devices, even if they intend to upgrade the originals, we'll be waiting an awfully long time. To me, this isn't good news until we know how it affects getting ICS on existing products.

That makes sense, I acknowledge your concern but we could always use the system dump from the new tab ,especially if it has the same hw, although it may need some scaling
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Here is the desktop link to the one posted in the original post. It has a link to the announcement of the tab 7.0 2
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/13/samsung-announces-galaxy-tab-2-android-4.0/

I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.

Stuckinabox said:
I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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Most phones are also much thicker than the tablets are. It's a form-factor limitation. When it comes to camera, it is mostly all about the optics. It'll get there as the processors behind these cameras keep getting faster, better, smaller. But until then, you need to rely on the glass and space between them.

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I don't understand why you'd put a three megapixel camera on a tablet when most phones have 8.
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tell me how often you use your tab to take picture ?

Sorry, system is temporarily unavailable, please try again later. -_-

oh it's for the 7.0 tab
gee thanks

I think this is gonna be a budget price model to complete with Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet. But i don't think they can offer this at a price tag less than 300$

and now hopefully to see someone upload leak ics rom for the tab

ansonantonym said:
I think this is gonna be a budget price model
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Not so much...
Revealing what it says are the "official" prices across several countries in Europe, blogging site Samsung Hub found that the price in U.S. dollars for the Wi-Fi-only version ranged from $419 to $450, while the cost of the Wi-Fi+3G version varied from $523 to $568.
Here's an article that, like me, questions why it exists at all...
http://gizmodo.com/5884606/samsung-galaxy-tab-2-why-do-you-exist

So, basicaly, you'd get the same "hardware" than the Tab 10.1 but with a 7" screen...

looks interesting but I personally prefer tablets with a bigger screen than 7-inch

Too bad it's a 7 inch. Will samsung release a 10 inch version soon?

i cant wait for ICS on my 10.1. Honeycomb is a joke. I am running a KANG ics build but i cant wait for the real thing

I have been looking at videos of this tab, and scrolling through home screens in portrait packed full of widgets looks flawlessly smooth. I really hope we get that new touchwiz launcher.
Edit: I have the galaxy s2, and I have been running the an ICS leak of the last few weeks, Samsung has updated the touch-wiz launcher a lot for ICS, and it looks a lot like the launcher on this new tab. So if they will update the s2 to this new launcher style, hopefully they will do the same for our tab, as this new touchwiz launcher looks smooth and very nice. If it is as smooth on our tab as it is on this new 7inch, it will make all my tabby dreams come true
To the OP; I think this thread is a good idea, thank you. But just as constructive criticism , you really should have sated more about what you meant this thread to be about in your first post

7 mths old and still no 4.4.3/4.4.4

So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?

locutusx said:
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.

is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.

Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.

As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...

A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.

Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.

There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?

weiguxp said:
The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.

locutusx said:
Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.

My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.

Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...

I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.

I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE

Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?

Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).