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Honeycomb 3.2 update for the SGT?

The Xoom (USA Wifi version) users are having their official 3.2 updates OTA now!
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/07/1...arts-to-arrive-for-some-wi-fi-motorola-xooms/
Where is ours?
I dont even have the 3.1 update for my 10.1v.

Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.

nMIK-3 said:
Haha
You do realize this is Samsung we are talking about?
It usually takes months if not years for them to generally fix major bugs on their devices. Same for pushing firmware updates...
Sad but this is how it is.
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You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.

Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out

Wait for Touchwiz before Android 3.2

mchimney said:
You also realize that samsung has really stepped up their game with both quality and service?
No, we may not see 3.2 officially from samsung this month, but i bet we see a leak of it before the end of august.
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Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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That's pretty much the case.

Now that TW is coming. No way we'll see 3.2 anytime soon. Not a chance with Samsungs history.

nMIK-3 said:
Samsung is doing amazing job in hardware development. They really do but for software support the company simply s*cks.
For example Galaxy S is almost a year and a half old. This device sold more than 10 million units worldwide is one of the most successful smartphone ever and believe it or not it's still waiting to get Gingerbread.
And this is only one example. Almost every Samsung Android phone out there is suffering the same issue. Actually all with the exceptions of Nexus S and Nexus S 4G and that because Google itself is handling the software and pushing updates on those devices.
To make things worst Samsung will push the TouchWiz UI very soon. Which means now they have to make sure Touch UI is compatible with the latest Android version which take even more time. They always take their time to ensure compatibility with their stupid TouchWiz and they ALWAYS end up with extremely buggy results.
As for an early leak, what is the point of getting a beta software to an already buggy device?
If for any reason you believe that Galaxy Tab 10.1 will be an exception for Samsung, please feel free to share. I really like to know it.
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I would disagree somewhat. The Galaxy S has been upgraded to Gingerbread on European versions of the phone. While updates for phones in the past have been lagging I would view that Samsung has taken a new approach as of late. The majority of the phones released around the same time period as the Galaxy S line have not received the Gingerbread update either. I would respond to you and ask for another cell phone manufacturer who is doing it better? Also besides zoom to fit (which spare parts will fix) there's not much benefit of 3.2 for us. The update adds zoom to fit, finally enables SD cards on the Xoom, and is more optimized to fit on 7" tablets i.e. 7-inch Huawei MediaPad.
As for Touchwiz I felt V3 was in need of much work (it does appear to be revamped a tad and smoother on the latest Fascinate GB leak) however V4 on the SGII has me sold on it being the default launcher on my phone. It is butter smooth and I love how it is laid out. If you were to poll the majority of Android users on XDA I would wager over 75% are unhappy with their stock manufacturer's launcher. I am looking forward to what Samsung will bring to the table.
I myself believe that Honeycomb is still very "beta-ish" in its current state. It was rushed and is extremely buggy. I think releasing the source code would help immensely as devs could iron out bugs (which they nicely do for Google now on the phone side). However, I do not believe it will be released before a transition into Ice Cream Sandwich.

Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???

POLO_i780 said:
Forget 3.2, are us 10.1v users even going to see 3.1???
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There's a HC 3.1 ROM by seo available in the 10.1v section - incl. TouchWiz.

Dont know
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Itaintrite said:
Xoom is also Google's flagship HC tablet so obviously they'll always get the latest updates first. Give it time. Maybe we'll have our 3.2 by the time ICS is out
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This sounds about right. Especially the "maybe."

seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.

eugene22n said:
seems like 3.2 is just about 7 or 8 inch tablet support so don't sweat that.
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It's not just about smaller screen tablets. It brings some small bug fixes also:
There is no lag on up side down home screen. Portrait is also better but not much.
Browser seems a little faster and typing a message on XDA doesn't lag as bad as it did on 3.1
I was also planning to buy SGT, but now I'm not sure anymore. I don't want to wait for updates. In this regard, the US Xoom is the best tablet. Only downside is that the US 3G version doesn't work in Europe and i want a tablet with 3G connectivity.

I got the update(wifi Only). Any one have a clue how to access it? Or make Sgt use it? The SD card i mean..lol

There isn't a 3.2 update for Galaxy Tab, and there is no SD card either. Troll somewhere else

I've been a forum reader/poster for over 20 years. Seen many things and read many posts. I know trolls and I know funny.
It's safe to say that the threads that I've read on the XDA forums have the most people with lack of sense of humor than any I've been a part of.
Why is that?

I didn't think it was funny... It was a clear troll post.

Could the 10.1 run 3.2 from the Zoom, or does it have to be made specifically for the Samsung 10.1?
Because supposedly reverse landscape and portrait mode performance are improved, near regular landscape performance.

Thanks for making my point.

Going from first Tab to 7.0 Plus... do you think it is worth it?

I have the first Samsung Galaxy Tab P1010 with 2.2 OS and was considering getting the new Tab 7.0 Plus just to have it for 3.2 OS. Should I make the leap just for the new OS or is it not really worth it? Screen seems to be the same and size doesn't matter to me. Just wanted a few thoughts and opinons.

I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.

A lot of ICS Tablets with lesser cost will be released soon and I strongly advice against buying Galaxy Tab plus now.
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The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).

Noah98 said:
The original Galaxy Tab actually has a better screen than the plus (it is much brighter).
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Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.

My tuppence would be to wait for the 7.7 ...it's imminent everywhere as I understand it. There are some people posted here with pics that already own it.

Id wait and see what the nexus tablet will be. Or wait for an official ICS tablet. Dont ever trust OEMs to give you updates and personally, Honeycomb isnt all that great or worth the upgrade. Do a CM7 with tablet tweaks and black out the buttons.
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burhanistan said:
Really? I think it's the same screen.
At any rate, before you rush out and upgrade your Tab just for the sake of doing so, why not try rooting and flashing a 2.3 based ROM? The Overcome 4.0 kernel gives you a lot more battery life over stock 2.2, and then you can use that ROM or maybe others (I'm rocking the ICS-lookalike ROM).
You'll probably find that 2.3 will give your Tab a new lease on life. There are some good tablets on the market now, but there will be better ones if you can wait 6 months. Hell, the iPad 3 (*ducks*) might be compelling enough to jump over to iOS.
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IPad 3 will be the hardware bump version. iOS still is nice but wont be much different for that tablet. The screen, Siri, RAM, etc and possibly a 7" version. That woild make me.buy one but not jumpship. Android is just to customizable to leave.
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Paten said:
I wouldn't do it until ICS has been released for it and has been available for a month or so. I've already been burned once by no updates from Samsung, I won't let myself get screwed by them again. If anyone else releases a 7" or 8" ICS Tablet with decent specs anytime soon, I would look at them first before I would consider another Samsung Tablet.
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Agreed - Samsung not making ICS available for the firstgen tab 7 and SGS is an insult considering how well the CM9 port for the SGS1 functions.
ICS 4.0.3 RC1 on original SGS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7282CNv0w&feature=related

As an OG Galaxy Tab owner and the new owner of a Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, here's my two cents.
1. The screen resolution is the same, but the screen on the 7.0 plus is of better quality. The viewing angles are a bit better, the blacks are darker, and the brightness is better managed.
2. While I agree that cheaper 7in tablets are on their way, they are cheaper for a reason. The build quality, features, and attention to detail are always lacking on cheaper devices. Not only that, but even other premium device makers always struggle to match Samsung's build and screen quality in the tablet market. Samsung has also promised to provide an ICS update to the Galaxy Tab 10.1, 8.9, 7.0 Plus, and 7.7. Samsung promised a Gingerbread update to the OG Tab, and they did manage to deliver even though the carriers in the US dragged their feet on pushing the update. Since the 7.0 Plus, like the 10.1 and 8.9, is wifi, updates are quicker. My 10.1 has had 3 updates since I bought it on launch day six months ago in June.
3. The Galaxy Tab 7.7, at least in the US, is tied to Verizon. This means it is to a contract, which is a sad fate indeed. I'm willing to take a .7in smaller, non-AMOLED screen in order to be free of the carriers. If you're in Europe or the UK, then the 7.7 may be an option for you.
4. The 7.0 Plus brings much more to the table than just Honeycomb. The dual-core 1.2ghz processor and 1gb of ram make the device much faster and allow it to run apps, games, and videos much better, and with much more ease than the OG Galaxy Tab. If you loved the 7in form factor of the first tab, then the 7.0 will feel sublime, mixing the convenient 7in size with a much thinner body. It feels lighter in hand and is nicer to hold for long periods of time.
Essentially, there is a lot to love about the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, especially if you were a owner/fan of the original. There are other devices, but at least with the Galaxy Tab, you already know what kind of build quality to expect. While Samsung did upset people by not providing the OG tab with ICS, you are on XDA, and ICS is already in the works for the OG Tab. It will run, and run well, so you could just wait for that. On the other hand, it will never run as well as it will on the upgraded hardware of the 7.0 Plus.
In my opinion, the 7.0 Plus is a very good upgrade option if you're willing to spend the money. I did, and I haven't been disappointed, (and I am very picky when it comes to my devices, to the point of being anal.) As I said before, just my two cents. Good luck with your decision.

Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?

got556 said:
Awesome reply rkmj...btw where did you make your sig pic?
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Thanks. I actually made it manually with GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program. It's the open-source alternative to photoshop.) I started it one day after cleaning out my "tech graveyard" I usually try to update it as I get new devices.

Personally I don't think, you get too much more from that step. I'll stay with my SGT P1000 for several months (and use newer firmware than that provided by Samsung)

Well, I'd like to hold off as long as possible before buying a tab. When I last looked Samsung had released any updates for the P1010. Also the only custom firmware I've seen are for everything but the wifi only model. All I really want is to get it up to 2.3 at least.

Did you have a look at the rom section in this forum? If you don't mind too much for touchwiz, I'd recommend the OVERCOME rom to you, which incorperates many fine features plus android 2.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317384
Ice cream sandwich is on it's way for the tab, so I don't mind the plus ;-)

It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"

if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.

The 7.7 is hard to put down! I think the step from the old 7" to the new 7+ isn't that great, especially if you're flashing a ROM like Overcome. The bottom line is the screen and apps are mostly the same, save a few enhancements like the IR port and faster CPU. Although, the 7+ is a fairly good deal. If you flash a 2.3 ROM you may see a new lease on the 7" and then later the 7.7s (or other brand) will be widely available at a cheaper price in the US.

Neleor said:
if you were going from p1000 to plus, I wouldn't recommend it, seeing as I have good hope it will get ICS from our friendly devs. For the p1010 however, there is not much hope for ICS, so anything with HC or ICS is an upgrade.
I'd personally rather go all the way to the 7.7 though.
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I'm running ICS right now on my sprint tab and it works great. No its not as smooth as ICS on my other devices...but still impressive none the less. I'm really looking fwd to getting the plus and 7.7 because I do think those will be a big upgrade from the og tab.
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moviecouple said:
It looks like those won't work with the Wifi only tab P1010.
"Overcome ROMs/Kernels will NOT work with Latin American Tabs (the P1000L/N Galaxy Tabs)/CDMA-Based Tabs (If your Tab doesn’t have a SIM card, it won’t work…sorry!)/Wi-Fi Only Tabs (P1010 models!)"
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So I'm kind of confused on which tabs the Overcome will work on? someone Just wrote a few posts back that they were running it on there sprint tab? Isn't that CDMA? I have a VZW OG SCH-I800 Tab, will Overcome or any other Rom ever be able to port an ICS Rom to it?
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Ics timeframe ?

I checked out one of these today and I think it will be perfect for me until the Asus memo 370 comes along... but I have a galaxy nexus and after using ics I really don't want to go back to hc.
Has anyone read or have samsung announced if/when it will be receiving ics?
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How long is a piece of string? Q2 Samsung reckon.
I'm running ICS on my SGS2 and have honeycomb on the 7.7 and I guess its preference really I can put up with HC until a dev gets around to ICS for us.

do you notice much of a difference between the 2? Still tossing up whether to pull the trigger now or wait (I have the original galaxy tab atm)...
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MontAlbert said:
I checked out one of these today and I think it will be perfect for me until the Asus memo 370 comes along... but I have a galaxy nexus and after using ics I really don't want to go back to hc.
Has anyone read or have samsung announced if/when it will be receiving ics?
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Why would you want a Memo as a replacement for a Tab 7.7? That's a serious downgrade in my book.

Croak said:
Why would you want a Memo as a replacement for a Tab 7.7? That's a serious downgrade in my book.
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downgrade in term of screen maybe, but in term of processing power and gpu, I think tegra 3 still in the leading hand
I'd wait for memo 370t also, but for 250 , I dont think it can do voice call, which would be a big no for me
tab 7.7 launching schedule is Feb 11th so gonna wait till more active development in tab 7.7 while seeing on MWC about ASUS

nostalgie said:
How long is a piece of string? Q2 Samsung reckon.
I'm running ICS on my SGS2 and have honeycomb on the 7.7 and I guess its preference really I can put up with HC until a dev gets around to ICS for us.
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After using ICS on my Galaxy Nexus I dont even want to use my 7.7.. We need some ICS love for the 7.7.. A.S.A.P.
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ICS update.
Love Samsung mobiles but so far their history of devices is abysmal.
Asus Transformer Prime (Tegra3), Previous Transformer (Tegra 2), Motorola Zoom (Tegra2) is already receiving ICS updates but Samsung Tab 10.1 and Tab 8.9 also based on Tegra 2 still no word.
On Exynos some leaks are still rolling out for SGS2. So Note still needs to follow and only then will they look at other tabs. Ridiculous.
On top of that I flashed ICS leak on my SGS and TW dominates ICS so much that it might as well be gingerbread. Basically all thats left of ICS UI is the settings.
SAD SAD SAD.
Best thing we can hope for is a stable Cyanogen 9 rom for tab 7.7

CM9 will be boss on this tab, I'm running the KANG on my Gtab 10.1

Yeah.. I am moving forward not even thinking about the "ICS" update from Samsung. CM9 or a vanilla build of ICS, Id like to get as close to stock Android as possible on this bad boy. It just seems that TouchWiz is a "bottle neck" as the system seems laggy when using the UI. My fingers are crossed. Hell I may even have some funds for donation.
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maconsultant said:
Yeah.. I am moving forward not even thinking about the "ICS" update from Samsung. CM9 or a vanilla build of ICS, Id like to get as close to stock Android as possible on this bad boy. It just seems that TouchWiz is a "bottle neck" as the system seems laggy when using the UI. My fingers are crossed. Hell I may even have some funds for donation.
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Lag is virtually non-existent on this device honestly. Just replace TouchWiz launcher with ADW EX, and you'll be flying.
Basically, yeah, it's not ICS yet, but honestly, it's not like what we have now is a bad experience by any stretch. It's plenty good, hell it's fantastic, for now, until Samsung or the dev community gets a working ICS build for us.

Replace TouchWiz
Totally agree, although I would also suggest Go Launcher EX. I tried both this weekend and I find Go Launcher EX even more smooth than ADW EX, but both excellent.

Someone posted on here about them playing with the leaked alpha/beta ICS update for the SGSII and they said all that was left of rhe ICS gui was the settings window and that TouchWiz dominated the ROM. That is very disappointing to me, but i mean what did i expect afterall. Ive never bought any other devices but Google Flag Ship devices that run stock android so i guess thats my point of reference.. For me android is about choice.. letting the user CHOOSE what they want, Samsung should build in a toggle to turn off TouchWiz completely if we the user chooses to. I just feel it adds another layer that just steals CPU cycles and doesnt really add any benefit.
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Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Lag is virtually non-existent on this device honestly. Just replace TouchWiz launcher with ADW EX, and you'll be flying.
Basically, yeah, it's not ICS yet, but honestly, it's not like what we have now is a bad experience by any stretch. It's plenty good, hell it's fantastic, for now, until Samsung or the dev community gets a working ICS build for us.
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Would love to use ADW EX but I cant get rid of black bar on top. The standard transparent bar thats part of stock TW turns into a grey bar and no setting I change can get it transparent again. If you could help me out here I might just run ADW...
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Someone posted on here about them playing with the leaked alpha/beta ICS update for the SGSII and they said all that was left of rhe ICS gui was the settings window and that TouchWiz dominated the ROM. That is very disappointing to me, but i mean what did i expect afterall. Ive never bought any other devices but Google Flag Ship devices that run stock android so i guess thats my point of reference.. For me android is about choice.. letting the user CHOOSE what they want, Samsung should build in a toggle to turn off TouchWiz completely if we the user chooses to. I just feel it adds another layer that just steals CPU cycles and doesnt really add any benefit.
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That was me that posted it and yes I agree.
Supercurio also has a support forum asking for a "AOSP Launcher for Samsung ICS" Go and add support. Hopefully he can somehow convince them to include stock UI.

Who knows... maybe by the time we'll have ICS we'll be able install some win8 on this device

What's the big deal with Win8..?
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What's the big deal with Win8..?
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It supposedly will have ARM support so there might be a possibility of setting up Android tablets to boot to it, or at least maybe a lite version of it. Dunno if that's a good thing, but having more options generally is preferable.
(And, sorry, but I didn't mean to hit thanks.)

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having more options generally is preferable.
(And, sorry, but I didn't mean to hit thanks.)
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Lol, I agree about more options, but Windows..? I guess I'll have to wait and see...
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well.. as a windows user most of my apps (including the ones i develop) are windows platform based... so having a tablet that can run these can be nice... most likely I will switch to a windows supporting tablet when win8 be officially released...
Have a nice day,
SK.

Understood.. But is it good.?
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Understood.. But is it good.?
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There's a dev preview of Windows 8 out now. It won't work on ARM devices (nor will it install as a VM on Fusion for Mac), but it gives a good sense of the feature set and UX. It's basically Windows 7 with an embedded tablet mode.

What's the difference between the 2014 and the new tab/note PRO models?

And which is better?
One thing I hate about Samsung is that they have to many daym models!
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And which is better?
One thing I hate about Samsung is that they have to many daym models!
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Note Pro is 12.2 inches with S-pen.
Tab Pros are 8,10.1 and 12.2 inch devices with same UI as Note Pro 12.2 but no S-pen.
And Note 2014 is a 10.1 inch device with S-pen. However has old UI but hopefully an update to kitkat soon will change that.
So really the only difference apart from size is Note series has S-pen and Tab Pro series doesnt.
Hope that helps lol.
Which is better well depends on your needs really all are very high spec devices.

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Note Pro is 12.2 inches with S-pen.
Tab Pros are 8,10.1 and 12.2 inch devices with same UI as Note Pro 12.2 but no S-pen.
And Note 2014 is a 10.1 inch device with S-pen. However has old UI but hopefully an update to kitkat soon will change that.
So really the only difference apart from size is Note series has S-pen and Tab Pro series doesnt.
Hope that helps lol.
Which is better well depends on your needs really all are very high spec devices.
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Thanks!
What about RAM, storage, resolution, display type (SAMOLED or LCD?), CPU and GPU?
I love my Note 3 and want something with 3GB of RAM so it can be more future proof. AFAIK, only the 12.2" version of the new models will have 3GB of RAM correct?

Note 10.1 2014 has 3gb of ram
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A comparison of the N10.1-14 against the new tablets using Samsung's press release as a base...
[We have it] The Samsung Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO present the world’s first 12.2-inch (or 8.4-inch/10.1-inch) WQXGA Widescreen (16:10) display, offering crystal clear resolution (2560x1600)
[We’re getting it; at least in some form] A personalized Magazine UX, specifically optimized for a large screen, allows users to further tailor their Galaxy tablet experience for their own needs. The UX enables them to organize their favorite content in an easy-to-use dashboard with automatic feed or news updates and then quickly access the most frequently used apps for a more comfortable reading experience.
[We have it; “four windows” is probably for the 12” models only] Multi Window enables users to split the screen up into four different windows and an innovative, Virtual Keyboard provides them with enough space to type comfortably, leveraging haptic feedback to produce a more realistic typing experience.
[We have it] The Samsung S Pen included with the Galaxy NotePRO delivers a more responsive, productive and overall efficient tablet experience with access to features such as Action Memo, Scrapbook, Screen Write and S Finder. In addition, Pen Window enables users to simply draw a window of any size on the screen, and instantly access unique in-application features such as YouTube or a calculator.
[Unknown if we’ll get it] Users can easily access and control their home or office PC directly through their Galaxy NotePRO or TabPRO with Remote PC in order to seamlessly edit and save files remotely.
[Unknown if we’ll get it] The Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO also come pre-loaded with Cisco WebEx Meetings platform, the industry’s leading web conferencing solution that provides users with an easy way to meet with anyone, anywhere. And now for the first time on Android tablets, users can share anything on their screen as well as starting a WebEx meeting from contact list. Samsung e-Meeting provides collaboration capabilities by giving users the ability to share content during a meeting without having to access a central server or network.
[We have the one’s in green; the other's are unknown] For additional value and productivity right out of the box, the Samsung Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO (12.2) will feature up to approximately $700 worth of the premium pre-paid, long-term subscription offers from best-selling news, social media and cloud storage providers, including: Bitcasa, Bloomberg Businessweek＋, Blurb, Cisco WebEx Meetings, Dropbox, Easilydo Pro for Tablet, Evernote, Hancom Office for Android, LinkedIn, LIVESPORT.TV, NY Times, Oxford Advanced Learner’s A-Z, and Sketchbook Pro (content packages may vary by region).
[The accessories that aren't size dependent should be compatible, the LAN adapter is unknown. The 12” tablets have an additional port on their right side] Designed to extend productivity even further, the following optional accessories are also available for purchase with the Galaxy NotePRO and TabPRO: Various Book Covers, USB LAN HUB, Universal BT Keyboard and S Action Mouse (accessories may vary by product model).
[We don’t have MIMO but the new 8.4” and 10.1” tablets don’t either] Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac MIMO (2.4 & 5 GHz), Wi-Fi Direct, AllShareCast, BT4.0.
And I know, the devs (all two of them ) might be able to port some of the features and functionality we aren't getting over. But some of us can't root because of KNOX so consider the above list for those for whatever reason are stuck with what Samsung provides.

There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe and there is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.

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There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe
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There are differences.
There is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.
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There are reasons.
It's been discussed to death in the thread linked below. Bottom line is until we see what the Pro/Notes come with and what the N10.1-14 gets (some form of M-UX is the only thing that's certain because it appeared on the microsite) after they're released no one here can say with certainty the N10.1-14 will be brought up to "Pro" level; even though that's what we all hope/want/wish.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601477

wow are you serious
halowen_pcd said:
There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe and there is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.
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They have every reason not to upgrade. They want to sell people on the new featured which means they want peop, e to buy the new device so the get money from device sales.
I have been a long time consumer of samsung products and ifmyou look at it we wait on averagr,8 to 9 months for OS upgrades wnile mamh other devices and manufacturesnalready have them. Samsung is the best for Android but not good with updates.

alynch75 said:
They have every reason not to upgrade. They want to sell people on the new featured which means they want peop, e to buy the new device so the get money from device sales.
I have been a long time consumer of samsung products and ifmyou look at it we wait on averagr,8 to 9 months for OS upgrades wnile mamh other devices and manufacturesnalready have them. Samsung is the best for Android but not good with updates.
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They got much more to lose, not to update N2014 with new M.UX and bad publicity is always something companys want to avoid. But we already know that N2014 will get 4.4 with new M.UX. If there is hardware limitations, then its understandable, since there isnt and there are no reason N.2014 wont get new M.UX.
Also, u are wrong about Samsung with updates, they are indeed the best of all OEMs with updates and dont know where u get from they are bad with updates?
Which OEM are better with updates then Samsung?
http://www.sammobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SamMobile-Update-List-Volume-1-Issue-3.pdf

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Also, u are wrong about Samsung with updates, they are indeed the best of all OEMs with updates and dont know where u get from they are bad with updates?
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They can be. They can also be atrocious. Ask the people in this 50 page thread from the N10.1-12 forum discussing the fact they've been on 4.1.2 for a year.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481738

one device of many
dt33 said:
They got much more to lose, not to update N2014 with new M.UX and bad publicity is always something companys want to avoid. But we already know that N2014 will get 4.4 with new M.UX. If there is hardware limitations, then its understandable, since there isnt and there are no reason N.2014 wont get new M.UX.
Also, u are wrong about Samsung with updates, they are indeed the best of all OEMs with updates and dont know where u get from they are bad with updates?
Which OEM are better with updates then Samsung?
http://www.sammobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/SamMobile-Update-List-Volume-1-Issue-3.pdf
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Galaxy tab 7.7 enough said. More than capable of getting g a.few more updates. Still stuck in honey comb and ice cream sandwich......the nook HD has.similar specs but got updated ... Hmm I. Alive.they have android 4.3 now. Not gonna argue with you guys. I llove.my Samsung products.
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Galaxy tab 7.7 enough said. More than capable of getting g a.few more updates. Still stuck in honey comb and ice cream sandwich......the nook HD has.similar specs but got updated ... Hmm I. Alive.they have android 4.3 now. Not gonna argue with you guys. I llove.my Samsung products.
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If the note 10.1 2014 was.getting the update where is it. The new.stuff is.same.hardware. it was.at ces.running new.software.hmmm interesting.no update.. I hope I am wrong o. This.but j think if .we do get the update it will be.November or December 2014!!!!!!!!!!

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If the note 10.1 2014 was.getting the update where is it. The new.stuff is.same.hardware. it was.at ces.running new.software.hmmm interesting.no update.. I hope I am wrong o. This.but j think if .we do get the update it will be.November or December 2014!!!!!!!!!!
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M-UX is now listed as a feature on the N10.1-14 site. So people buying it have the expectation and an "implied" commitment from Samsung that they'll be getting it. In fact, those that don't follow technology news like we do will probably call Samsung support to ask where it is if they buy a N10.1-14 before the M-UX update's released. If I were to bet I'd say we'll get it either when the Tab|Pro 10.1 goes up for sale/pre-sale or possibly even before. I say before because what incentive does Samsung have to push people toward a cheaper tablet (Tab|Pro 10.1) by letting the N10.1-14's update languish? We may get it after the Tab/Note|Pro 12's go on sale to give them some time on the market with M-UX exclusively both before we get the update and the Tab|Pro 10.1's released. Samsung wants to sell tablets in top-down order of price. So bigger screens and S Pen go to the top of the list because those devices make Samsung more and have higher margins.

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M-UX is now listed as a feature on the N10.1-14 site. So people buying it have the expectation and an "implied" commitment from Samsung that they'll be getting it. In fact, those that don't follow technology news like we do will probably call Samsung support to ask where it is if they buy a N10.1-14 before the M-UX update's released. If I were to bet I'd say we'll get it either when the Tab|Pro 10.1 goes up for sale/pre-sale or possibly even before. I say before because what incentive does Samsung have to push people toward a cheaper tablet (Tab|Pro 10.1) by letting the N10.1-14's update languish? We may get it after the Tab/Note|Pro 12's go on sale to give them some time on the market with M-UX exclusively both before we get the update and the Tab|Pro 10.1's released. Samsung wants to sell tablets in top-down order of price. So bigger screens and S Pen go to the top of the list because those devices make Samsung more and have higher margins.
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Where in the site you saw this, I just went to the site and didn't saw it.

The Tap Pro series only have 2 GB of ram, only the Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12.2 have 3 GB of RAM.
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IMHO I think it would be better if they upgraded the Note 10.2014 to KK 4.4 and whatever else before they release the Note/Tab Pro range as those who have the 2014 Note will either sing the praise or decry the device and it's operation and usage. If it works well then Samsung get free advertising from customers which will knock spots off any reviews out there but if we decry it due to this and that then they will be able to tweak anything that customers find wrong before they go on sale.
To me that's the way to do business but of course Samsung will think differently I bet lol.
Any news on the tom tom drums about a release date yet?????

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There are no differences between Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12,2 except the screen size, i believe and there is no reason for Samsung not to update the Note 10.1 2014 with the new UI.
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Don't all the new Note tablets come with USB 3.0?

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Don't all the new Note tablets come with USB 3.0?
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Lodix said:
The Tap Pro series only have 2 GB of ram, only the Note 10.1 2014 and Note Pro 12.2 have 3 GB of RAM.
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That's what I thought too.
So, unless people want a 12" tablet, I guess the Note 10.1 v2014 is the way to go.
Can someone else confirm?

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Can someone else confirm?
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Official specs from Samsung on the N10.1-14, Note|Pro 12 (Tab|Pro is the same sans S Pen), and Tab|Pro 10.1. I've highlighted in red what's different on the latter from the N10.1-14. The Tab|Pro 10.1 specs says it has Wi-Fi channel bonding while the N10.1-14's doesn't. It might and just never got included in the initially published specs.

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Official specs from Samsung on the N10.1-14, Note|Pro 12 (Tab|Pro is the same sans S Pen), and Tab|Pro 10.1. I've highlighted in red what's different on the latter from the N10.1-14. The Tab|Pro 10.1 specs says it has Wi-Fi channel bonding while the N10.1-14's doesn't. It might and just never got included in the initially published specs.
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That is crazy! Samsung really did take out a full 1 gb of RAM in the new Note 10.1! I think that means if Samsung stops making the 10.1 v2014, then that model should hold its value fairly well, maybe?

7 mths old and still no 4.4.3/4.4.4

So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?

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So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.

is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.

Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.

As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...

A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.

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BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.

There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?

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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.

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Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.

My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.

Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...

I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.

I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14)
I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE

Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?

Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).