Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)
I hope, we won't have to wait that long...
Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...
i don't like to wait.
i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.
me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.
I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.
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You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.
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Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?
I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).
Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...
What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?
I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".
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Well i mean this is just speculation from my standpoint.
For wifi versions, no 3rd party software developers are impeding the process
I.E. Verizon LTE versions are affected by Verizon's wishes as some people had problems with the Fascinate if you know what i mean.
Now i believe that the reason we are not getting anymore updates on the 10.1 tab for honeycomb is because of the upcoming release of the ICS.
Because ICS will be for both phones and tablets, there is probably no interest from Samsung to spend the time and the resources to update their tablets to the most updated software.
And as we all know Samsung got the first dibs on the ISC software code, i think it is not in the near future that Samsung begins to release ICS source code for all of their products.
It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
OH well this was just my simple rant for today
I wanted to know what your thoughts were..
Best,
3.2 is more for smaller screen tabs. We are not missing much aside from resizable Widgets.
Look at all the issues the guys in the Asus forums are having with 3.2.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
Since its been only two month since the "Touchwiz" update and there are no pressing bugs to fix nor brings 3.2 any real needed functionality, I'm not surprised that Samsung hasn't updated the tab. A new version number might seem important to a few people but I can understand why it's not exactly high priority at Samsungs.
The 7+ is launching next month on T-Mobile US with 3.2. The SGS2 currently runs 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5 depending on the market. We think a lot harder about this than Samsung does.
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I don't think they are working on it because they are engulfed in a legal battle with Apple...
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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I want a pony.
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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Lol hahghaa. That would be funny of they really are.
i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
ICS is around the corner..
Also..who here thinks that Steve Kondik uses a Galaxy Tab 10.1 as well?
thinking CM8 ? that will be a very very nice addition to the tab
me personally cant wait till ICS goes open source so that CM team can take it and start doing CM8
hoping that CM8 alpha comes in two month or so.. (assuming Google exposes ICS to the world by mid Oct)
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Samsung's lawyers are their developers?
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That's the same thought I had when I read his comment.
I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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I guess 3.2 doesn't really make a big difference but I sure would like to see an update where the speed and fluidness of the software is improved.
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Actually the latest update KI1 (for the European GT10.1 3G) makes the GT10.1 much smoother then my Xoom wich has Android 3.2.1
Other then the app resize function, there is nothing new in 3.2 and i have never used this function.
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These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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I think people should just enjoy their Tabs...
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Stardate Tab 10.1 said:
These threads are in every forum. This is not just Samsung. Every phone/tablet forum has people who want the next update as soon as it is announced. What are the real differences between touchwiz and 3.2? I can already resize widgets.
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True, we all want the latest and greatest. I'm using a custom rom that has completely changed my experience with the tab. Enjoying this. . .I can wait.
Probably because they are really busy optimising 3.1 for GT 10.1v.
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It maybe even possible that they are working on ICS for their soon to be released products such as Galaxy Note, Galaxy TAB 7+, Galaxy Tab 7.7
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They'll almost certainly be working on it but the devices you've listed will be released with 2.3.X, 3.2 and 3.2 respectively.
So Samsung clearly are devoting some resources to working on 3.2, albeit for other models of Tab.
It raises the possibility that the 3.2 update might be released around the same time as these new models of Tab, though it's obviously a matter of waiting and seeing.
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i prefer samsung focus on ICS instead of 3.2
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Whilst ICS is certainly a bigger update than 3.2, I don't feel we should have to justify missing out on one software update by hoping that we get the next one sooner.
Good after-sales support would've seen us running 3.2 already as well as receiving ICS, not one or the other.
And the fact that Samsung seem completely unconcerned about updating the Tab 10.1 to 3.2 must surely raise questions as to their commitment to bringing ICS to it in a timely fashion.
Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
So I would also imagine that since the carriers aren't involved in the WIFI model's update process that we will be seeing faster updates for the US WIFI model.
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Considering Samsung has gotten the first hands-on look with ICS since they are making the next Nexus I would imagine they would have already gotten a head start on developing it for the Tab, which is their flagship tablet.
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They may be making the hardware but the mark of a Nexus device is that Google handles the software in-house, Samsung quite possibly will have had minimal access to the code so far.
Equally, Google are supposed to be implementing a scheme whereby the larger, 'better' Android OEMs get advanced access to the source code of new Android versions in return for keeping their devices updated quickly and generally providing the best possible user experience for their Android devices.
So it is possible Samsung already have access to the ICS source code but, as I said, it's hard to be positive about ICS when Samsung seemingly can't be bothered bringing us a much smaller update.
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I'm the owner of a Samsung Vibrant and I really think it has been the US carriers letting us down with updates for the GS line. The international Galaxy S has already gotten Gingerbread a very long time ago while everyone in the US is, officially anyway, stuck on Froyo.
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The i9000 has had Gingerbread for a while now, yeah, though it was still a fair way behind other handsets in receiving the update - a number of HTCs got in there first if memory serves.
That said, as someone else already pointed out, Samsung have done a far better job of keeping the Galaxy S2 updated, so it seems that they are at least moving in the right direction.
Check out my post, its title Ipad 3, we are all dealing with this slow update process, apple is far ahead in the update department.
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Samsung Italy has announced which devices they are planning on upgrading to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
That list is:
Galaxy S II
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1
Galaxy Tab 8.9
Galaxy Tab 7.7
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus
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http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/10/28/report-samsung-italy-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-update/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Our tablet came out in November of last year. It's less than a year old, and Samsung is dropping us already despite being a member of Google's so-called Update Alliance.
Guess Samsung hasn't changed at all from the old days.
If this pisses you off like it pisses me off, maybe we can shame them if we complain enough on their Facebook and Twitter pages, I already did:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA#!/SamsungUSA?sk=wall
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
http://twitter.com/#!/Samsungtweets
In the end, if Samsung drops us like yesterday's garbage, at least we still have our great devs here, like we always have.
I feel very lucky to have the developers!
Updated the post with the Samsung Facebook and Twitter feeds that I complained on.
With Samsung's "galaxy this and galaxy that" devices with different hardware specs you cannot expect the samsung team to come up with updates to each and everyone of them. That is a big nightmare.
As for me I will never again make a mistake in buying a samsung device. Support for an expensive device from samsung really sucks!
And to discover later that the device is not really up to quality and seems "untested" thoroughly adds to the disappointment. Example is the warming of the GT after some time of using. I have to mention that after using a rival tablet(I won't mention the brand) no similar warming happened .
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Samsung Italy has announced which devices they are planning on upgrading to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
That list is:
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http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/10/28/report-samsung-italy-confirms-galaxy-s-ii-android-4-0-update/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Our tablet came out in November of last year. It's less than a year old, and Samsung is dropping us already despite being a member of Google's so-called Update Alliance.
Guess Samsung hasn't changed at all from the old days.
If this pisses you off like it pisses me off, maybe we can shame them if we complain enough on their Facebook and Twitter pages, I already did:
http://www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA#!/SamsungUSA?sk=wall&filter=12
http://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
http://twitter.com/#!/Samsungtweets
In the end, if Samsung drops us like yesterday's garbage, at least we still have our great devs here, like we always have.
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Expect your complaint to be deleted asap!
it is expected that galaxy tab 7 wont have it. don't worry a port is coming soon.
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Complain here too:
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile?sk=wall
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Thanks, added it to the original post.
I would be just happy with sammy providing a official rom for the latest gb. I am asking even ics.
So I recently started thinking a lot about the fragmentation and it is whole mess. Everyone not just google is to blame. I will hardly consider getting android again until this gets resolved some way.
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Can't we just get the damn drivers and source code... I trust the Dev community way more than any mfg
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If we can get the driver source code, we should be able to build ics for tab, just like almost any modem computer can run linux...
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Can't we just get the damn drivers and source code... I trust the Dev community way more than any mfg
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After the official Gingerbread update for the GT-P1000 I am kind-of glad that Samsung are not touching the ol' 7".
I too prefer to put my faith in the development community. Look at Technomancer's CM7 port. That ROM really kicks some ass.
Opensource FTW!!!
We know that the Galaxy Tab is a powerful device as much as other devices that has been upgrade coming soon. This movement isn't good for Samsung because everybody will not trust in them. I think they have the best hardware in the market, but actually there are other companies that have work too hard, as Sony Ericsson.
shame on samsung
Just tested alpha2 of the first ics port - no network for data yet, but smooth feeling on p1000 - glad I bought that one ;-)
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Just tested alpha2 of the first ics port - no network for data yet, but smooth feeling on p1000 - glad I bought that one ;-)
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Nice! I will try it soon.
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Used the Galaxy Tab P1000 before... changed to EVO3D (Asian edition cannot be hacked)... regret it to the max... who the hell wants to unlock the bootloaders from htcdev.com and void their warranty.. .definitely not me...
HTC, nice build quality, but really for a 1.2GHz dual core, it still kind of laggy... probably my hacked out Tab P1000 works much smoother... plus, with all the hacking and flashing and bricking my device TWICE, still manage to get warranty repairs by Samsung...
had the EVO3D for only 2 months.. just got rid of it and bought the shiny new Galaxy Tab Plus... this dual core tab really kicks some ass... and manage to root it easily...
multi tasking on the fly.. do you see the bar at the bottom, click on it and easy access to mini apps over your current running apps.... Nice...
I am never a brand fanboy, been using HTC since like forever, but the increasing "LOCKED" bootloaders philosophy by HTC is getting on my nerves... they forget, many gadget freaks are buying Android phones for their "customization and being open source"...
at time being, will stick to Samsung, and will put my faith on XDA developers to bring this device to the next level... long live XDA Developers...
Who needs samsung when you have a bunch of cool devs on XDA
Samsung did not release even 2.3 for Russia..This is funny to wait ICS)
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Samsung did not release even 2.3 for Russia..This is funny to wait ICS)
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Same here. Never had a Gingerbread update here in Australia (but that's my carrier's fault, I think) so jumped straight to Overcome and haven't looked back, apart from the odd dabble in CM7 and a quick run with Honeycomb.
I'm more than happy to wait for the devs to release an ICS build which will probably end up better than anything Samsung could've done anyway.
Samsung has cemented its plans for the roll-out of Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks likely to land on most of its top drawer Android devices. This (unsurprisingly) includes the Galaxy S II, its LTE variant, the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy R and whole range of Samsung tabs, from the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements". Source: Engadget
I for one, cannot wait for this - BUT to be honest, I am actually looking forward for a pure AOSP ROM of ICS on the Tab 10.1
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Samsung has cemented its plans for the roll-out of Ice Cream Sandwich, and it looks likely to land on most of its top drawer Android devices. This (unsurprisingly) includes the Galaxy S II, its LTE variant, the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy R and whole range of Samsung tabs, from the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus to the Galaxy Tab 10.1. The update is penned to arrive first on both the Galaxy S II and Note in Q1 2012, with other devices following, although the Korean giant says that separate announcements will be made on the finer points -- depending on the "market situation and carriers' requirements". Source: Engadget
I for one, cannot wait for this - BUT to be honest, I am actually looking forward for a pure AOSP ROM of ICS on the Tab 10.1
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From what they've implied, Touchwiz will mainly be support software for better hardware. It will fade as a UI.
waiting for it badly
I hope they roll out OTA a bit quicker than they've managed with 3.2.. Sure, we are many who know how to download a release to flash with odin, but that's still kind of a bother compared to just accepting an OTA ;-)
Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
As someone who owned two Samsung supported phones before my Nexus S (Moment and Epic 4G) how is Samsung with tablet support? My experience with them for phone support is that they have no clue what they are doing with software, always late with deadlines, and what they do send out is lackluster. Hence I grabbed a Nexus S since Google supports that.. I took a gamble with the tab..
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As someone who owned two Samsung supported phones before my Nexus S (Moment and Epic 4G) how is Samsung with tablet support? My experience with them for phone support is that they have no clue what they are doing with software, always late with deadlines, and what they do send out is lackluster. Hence I grabbed a Nexus S since Google supports that.. I took a gamble with the tab..
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They're getting the hang of the software thing, but they also add quite a bit of good stuff to their devices that you can't see. (codecs, drivers, etc...)
Hopefully what that guy ^ said is true and they don't focus on the UI at all this time.
So we will be getting ics after march as galaxy s2 and galaxy note will get it the first 3 months and only after that to the other devices ie galaxy tab
So my bet is still with cm9
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Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
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I am completely with you on this one ! I am more excited about the AOSP ROM rather than the Samsung TouchWiz stuff !
Well the promise is up to q1 let see...
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Honestly, with CM9 coming to the GT10.1, I really don't care about what Samsung is pushing (except, of course, the improvements it may bring to custom ROMs...).
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I would agree. We all know that wee gonna be running custom roms on it anyway.
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Well the promise is up to q1 let see...
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I'm with you here. The support on the Galaxy S I had was lackluster, if it wasn't for custom roms I never would have kept that phone long.
Im waiting for the ICS ROMS for our tabs. I just got a beta ICS on my Mytouch and I'm in love.
Our beloved tablet Galaxy 10.1/10.1.v never going to get official JB upgrade by Samsung!
Source Link:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-details-jelly-bean-upgrade-roadmap-and-its-not-all-good-24248943/
I know this is not Android development post, but I just want to make sure our beloved developers know the news, and they are the only ones left now that can bring fully functional JB ROMs to our tablet. I really hope they can start spending more time on JB ROM development.
Your justification/reason for posting this in the development section is definitely not sufficient.
I am disappointed by Samsung not upgrading GT 10.1 for three reasons
1. GT 10.1 was released *after* GS2, and GS2 gets JB.
2. GT 2 10.1 is so similar to GT 10.1, that if Samsung just pays a little more effort, they can upgrade GT 10.1, too.
3. GT 10.1 was a flagship device, just last year.
Probably it is because GT 10.1 did not sell well as Samsung expected, due to iPad or all that Apple legal stuff. Well, but I can still enjoy GT 10.1 as it is (4.0). And I hope Samsung would release a bigger and faster one (like 12 inch or something). Then I would sell GT 10.1 cheaply and move on to that device.
Well it is ok, i hate touchwiz as a lot of people and we have good developers that will bring CM10 full functionally, but it is mean that probably we will have problems with drivers for futures updates.
start a facebook and twitter protest along with a youtube video
I bet they will pay attention. At the least force them to release the code so others can develop it.
The points made above are very valid.
I though part of the Google agreement was devices had to be upgradeable for up to 18 months for something like that.
You think a company like Samsung would have learned from Microsoft to make their devices and software work for all of their hardware just like installing MS Windows across different brands.
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I though part of the Google agreement was devices had to be upgradeable for up to 18 months for something like that.
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That is what Google stated at I/O 2011. So this makes me wonder... 18 months from when the GTab 10.1 I/O released (March 2011) or when it released in the US (June 2011), international (July 2011;not sure cause I didn't pay attention to that release). We are within that window when they said that JB will release in Q4 for the listed devices. We are DEFINITELY in that window from when JB was announced.
That will teach us, samsung is fast abandoning devices as well as releasing them. Note to self, next time stick to everything nexus.
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Well it is ok, i hate touchwiz as a lot of people and we have good developers that will bring CM10 full functionally, but it is mean that probably we will have problems with drivers for futures updates.
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I agree about touchwiz, but you have to think like this: they need to release JB, so that our developer can get all the required drivers for camera and other stuff. This makes development much faster. If you check current Alpha/Experimental CM10 JB ROMs, front cam not working.
I felt really bad when I read the news, because I still really like my Galaxy Tab 10.1 even if it is 1 year old.
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I agree about touchwiz, but you have to think like this: they need to release JB, so that our developer can get all the required drivers for camera and other stuff. This makes development much faster. If you check current Alpha/Experimental CM10 JB ROMs, front cam not working.
I felt really bad when I read the news, because I still really like my Galaxy Tab 10.1 even if it is 1 year old.
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Im on a cm10 and my front cam is working. It'll be there in versions with the 3.1 kernel, the ones out there right now are with the older kernel (afaik).
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Im on a cm10 and my front cam is working. It'll be there in versions with the 3.1 kernel, the ones out there right now are with the older kernel (afaik).
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Yes but i think 3.1 kernel its only for P7500 i have the P7510 wifi version, someplace i look for an experimental kernel 3.1 but microphone doesnt work.
Samsung are truly morons with this crap. The Tab was my last chance with them and they just blew it.. This was their 3rd strike. My 2 year old Nexus S 4G with 512mb of RAM gets an official JB upgrade from Google (and runs great) yet the tab with a dual core and 1gb of RAM Samsung decide to skip over. Google is all about getting the most out of a product and Samsung (who ironically makes the Nexus S) is all about getting the most out of your wallet.
I had a hunch this was going to happen, but I'm still annoyed. Not so much because I can't just root, etc..... but the fact that they've given the finger to those that bought it while they support older products still. Samsung was even present when Google announced the "Android Update Alliance". Um........... atleast give us working drivers, etc.
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Yes but i think 3.1 kernel its only for P7500 i have the P7510 wifi version, someplace i look for an experimental kernel 3.1 but microphone doesnt work.
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The 3.1 kernel Samsung released is for both P7500 and P7510. If you're running official ICS now, you're using 3.1 kernel.
Figured as much.
But, my Tab with ICS and Nova launcher absolutely rocks, so to be honest, I'm not really that disappointed.
Still a geat device.
I am runnng cm10 on my tab and it works great. I dont neec Samsung offical laggy rom. I have cm10, its faster and better!
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There is nothing that I see here from an OFFICIAL Samsung site..... Lets not panic
dapope said:
There is nothing that I see here from an OFFICIAL Samsung site..... Lets not panic
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it is official news from Samsung. I just need to find the official press release link and post here. They did not say no JB for Galaxy Tab 10.1, but they did NOT included it on their JB road-map for this year and next year, so this should tell you something, unless Samsung decides to include it at last minute.
The only comments seen publically are from sites other than samsun. Sammobile is not an official site and their source was not samsung either. Suggest you all calm down. Besides, it would be like expecting win7to run on a win 95 computer expecting updates for ever more
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The only comments seen publically are from sites other than samsun. Sammobile is not an official site and their source was not samsung either. Suggest you all calm down. Besides, it would be like expecting win7to run on a win 95 computer expecting updates for ever more
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But AOSP based jb has already been ported to 10.1 which makes it a vaible candidate since the hardware is good thus ur comparison is like comparing apple to oranges since win would never even bootup in win95 PC let alone run!
PS: I am dissapointed with Samsung bcuz most ppl with 10.1 r early adopters yet Samsung including myself yet Samsung decided to show the finger to us!
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bar_rodoy said:
I am runnng cm10 on my tab and it works great. I dont neec Samsung offical laggy rom. I have cm10, its faster and better!
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With official release the devs get access to newer kernel which makes future android compability easier
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Sammobile:
Galaxy S2 might not get Android 4.2 update, due to “adjustment problems with TouchWiz”
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/30...ate-due-to-adjustment-problems-with-touchwiz/
Bad news for all of us... :crying: :crying: :crying:
Samsung Touchwiz crap
Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
Good said Modej,
I also using AOKP but with some touchwiz features 1. Because I like it touchwiz launcher.
And Second I want in AOKP that be another lockscreen but I think it's not possible :/
We only need egl blobs and kernel source from GS3 4.3 to run CM10.2 well (not stable but pretty decent like CM10.1).
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Not going to flash even if they release 4.3. I prefer to be on CM. Much more smooth and better battery life.
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Agree and disagree with your comment. 100% agree with the smoothness part but sammy 4.1.2 roms with a good stock kernel offer the best battery life (Up to 7hrs screen on time, my record was 6 hrs screen-on time spread over about 1 day)
What a lame excuse for not updating.
Sincerely shame on you Samsung.
I think it's not a surprise. Sammy couldn't give us usable exynos drivers for oasp. So they probably couldn't figure it out themselves. Looks bad anyway. ..
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codeworkx n xplodwild (not forgetting other developers) are quite capable to give us 4.3 (which we already have as courtsey of xplodwild..) ...
cm is way btr than sammy roms..
Stupid excuses from Samsung...but why the S2+ can get 4.2.2. .really stupid
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CM is not a solution as it is really buggy. Playing games is not even possible
Also it is laggy bcs of its own made drivers. Animation stutters in cm really frustrate me.
Battery life is also another problem
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Unfortunately, based on what other brands are doing, we cannot blame so much Samsung. We got last official update few weeks ago for a device which is in the market from beginning of 2011. Of course who bought the device one year after it was in the market (like me!) got a better price but having more or less one year of software support and counting mostly on XDA community to keep the device alive.
We should blame who has promised 18 months of updates but failed to keep their promises (I know HTC for example).
Most of the cases there are not technical reasons not updating devices but just marketing. I would be happy having 24 months as minimum software support.
Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
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Correct me if Im wrong but I havent read any on that article that it is official? So why go on rampage blaming Samsung on the statement which might be a fallacy? You will just stress yourself.
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Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
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Exactly.
It's just that once a rumor (a sensitive one here), starts up, it catches up pretty fast.
there are about 5-6 articles by now about this on various websites, each quoting eachother as references.. XD
Let's just wait because even S3 hasn't received 4.2 yet, and as always Samsung updates the newest first!
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I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
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I saw something about samsung skip the 4.2 and the 4.3 release directly to s3 and s2, do not ask me where, but I've been looking around, and also already be next to launch a test build for s3
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4.3 seems a little far fetched. ....considering the aging of our device .I doubt Samsung will push any further updates for us ...
And its so silly. They said that s2+ will get the update bcuz it has more power than S2 (seems lik a marketing strategy 2 me)...
On tge the latest report it says Samsung owns 47% of all android devices.i think out of those 30% represents S2, S3 & S4 .
S2 still has a very large scale of users , its a shame Samsung is leaving us in the dark..
Well I guess its time to move on to S3 , S4 , N4 or H One ...
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But dont blame the Manufacturers too much
Everyone should think back to the Times where Android wasnt there
Symbian times for Example... Updates came pretty Slow BUT they came and where everytime pretty Bugfree and with Really Good Performance and all that
The Update Floods on the Android OS doesnt makes it any Easyer for the Manufacturers nor the Devs i think
Google makes everything very Complicated for everyone,and i am sure that all Manufacturers first gonna bring out the newest versions to the newest Phones
Why ...Pfff Because they Have to keep The NEW things more up to date then the Old .
Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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Well I know other nonnexus android manufacturers are much worse. I'm not even sure the HTC Sensation and Xperia arc of 2011 received 4.1.2 yet.
But seriously samsung can't compare with those manufacturers as they are not as big as samsung.
Samsung should see how apple gives software updates to old phones as apple is the only manufacturer as big as samsung and hence their main competitor.
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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Here is where you miss the point.
Apple has like what 5 devices to support?
3GS, 4, 4S, 5
Whereas Samsung has a portfolio the size of an Apple Farm.. XD
So they focus on the newer models which is natural, to boost their sales and try to keep up with others.
And while they do, Google keeps launching updates after updates.
One such example is,
Galaxy S Advance, It was supposed to get ICS but by the time it's turn came, ICS was outdated, so Samsung directly gave it GB to JB.
I think we will get our 4.2 update somewhere around my birthday in Nov'13
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I think what samsung should instead do is to give the best support for those who paid more for the premium Galaxy S line and note line, otherwise their image will be no better than their mid range and budget phones line.
It's their own fault since the beginning actually. Their flagships so far is S, S2, S3, S4, Note 1 and Note 2. However, each flagship got so many variants. For example, the S4 has 14 variants including the zoom and active according to wikipedia.
Samsung might be able to convince people to buy their product. However, I'm afraid they can't convince people to buy their product for the second time.
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Not exactly looking forward whether Samsung will push an update for us but they've got a point there. I think Samsung's not particularly concerned about customer satisfaction which means just like the others said that Samsung's likely to update the newer devices that's still in the market to increase their sales.
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