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I want a Galaxy tab 10.1 but I would love a stock honeycomb version.
Do you guys think that we will have stock flashable Rom quite soon after release now that we have the IO version of the tablet? I suppose they have exactly the same hardware, just different software.
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I hope so. hate Touchwiz too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009614
I'd also love to be able to get a Galaxy Tab with stock Android (and therefore updates directly and timely from Google). Honestly the only thing appealing of TouchWiz on the Galaxy Tab is the quick toggle for settings in the notification area, but that is something you can get with a widget.
I don't think the update with TouchWiz is going to be optional. My bet is, that Samsung will push TouchWiz to all Galaxy Tabs (except maybe the Google IO limited edition ones) as soon as they are done with it.
Why can't the Galaxy Tab be the Nexus of tablest?
Be careful with "directly from Google".
It will not ... because only Google Nexus device will get update directly from Google.
And no, there is no Nexus device for Android tablet.
Most probably at the end of this year when ICS is released.
I bet, Google will announce:
- Google Nexus Tablet
- OS: Android Ice Cream Sandwich
- Processor: Tegra 3 (Quad Core)
- RAM: 1GB
- Display: 10.1", PLS (or at least IPS)
- MicroSD card slot
- 7000 mAH battery
- Thin and light hardware profile
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I'd also love to be able to get a Galaxy Tab with stock Android (and therefore updates directly and timely from Google). Honestly the only thing appealing of TouchWiz on the Galaxy Tab is the quick toggle for settings in the notification area, but that is something you can get with a widget.
I don't think the update with TouchWiz is going to be optional. My bet is, that Samsung will push TouchWiz to all Galaxy Tabs (except maybe the Google IO limited edition ones) as soon as they are done with it.
Why can't the Galaxy Tab be the Nexus of tablest?
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Isn't the Motorola Xoom getting updates directly from Google, although not being part of the Nexus family?
Anyways, I think that without all the crapware/uis of carriers/device manufactures, updates would roll out faster than they do. Probably not as fast as on the Nexus devices, true.
Wouldn't it be super awesome if manufacturers allowed customers to flash a stock rom or a rom with additional ui mods? I don't see why they aren't doing this, as it is almost no extra hassle.
gogol said:
Be careful with "directly from Google".
It will not ... because only Google Nexus device will get update directly from Google.
And no, there is no Nexus device for Android tablet.
Most probably at the end of this year when ICS is released.
I bet, Google will announce:
- Google Nexus Tablet
- OS: Android Ice Cream Sandwich
- Processor: Tegra 3 (Quad Core)
- RAM: 1GB
- Display: 10.1", PLS (or at least IPS)
- MicroSD card slot
- 7000 mAH battery
- Thin and light hardware profile
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My IO tab has no touchwiz
SGT 10.1 uplink initiative
We’ll be getting the updates from Samsung. In system updates on the 10.1 LE(I/O) you get asked register with Samsung before you can access the update servers. So we will probably see 3.1 followed TouchWiz UX. I suspect custom roms will be the way to avoid TW if you want further OS updates.
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Isn't the Motorola Xoom getting updates directly from Google, although not being part of the Nexus family?
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Nope. All updates are from Motorola for Xooms.
Magnesus said:
Nope. All updates are from Motorola for Xooms.
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Actually... moto support reps stated several times that Google was pushing 3.1 to xoom. Google was rolling it out in waves
Samsung Italy has reportedly confirmed which of the Korean company’s Android devices will receive an Ice Cream Sandwich update, with models such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 each supposedly in line for a 4.0 upgrade. The Italian arm of the firm listed the GSII and the Tab 10.1, HDBlog claims, along with the Galaxy Note, Galaxy Tab 8.9, Tab 7.7 and Tab 7.0 Plus as all being eligible for a tasty frozen treat. However, don’t expect it any time soon.
According to the report, the updates won’t begin until Q2 2012, potentially six months after Samsung’s Galaxy Nexus goes on sale. Samsung confirmed to us last night at the kick-off of the Galaxy Note European Tour that the oversized smartphone would get Android 4.0, as reported in our Galaxy Note vs Galaxy Nexus hands-on, but said that, since the company had been working closely with Google on ICS, they expected to beat competitors to the market with upgrades for existing devices.
(Source :http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-android-4-0-ics-updates-in-2012-reportedly-detailed-28191699/)
I hope, we won't have to wait that long...
Waiting 6m+ would be a joke in my opinion - the GS2 is the leading current Android phone in performance and sales, for it to take so long to get 4.0 makes the whole platform seem a bit weak seeing as by then we'll presumably be in the midst of hype building for iphone 5 which would a) have new features ics doesn't have and b) copy anything worthwhile from ics.
I don't believe extended Nexus exclusivity does either Google or Samsung any favours at all...
i don't like to wait.
i read somewhere that it wont get 4.0 until after the galaxy s3 is released.
me too think so. Galaxy S got gingerbread update only after S2 released. So.... I doubt it might be the bad wait more news coming soon...
But anyway v will get it wont v.
Or if v need it faster CM will always be there to help us
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I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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Just about everything. It doesn't bring many new features, but it optimizes the old ones and makes the whole experience better.
I'm eagerly waiting for ICS in my SGSII
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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pisculescu said:
I don't see what the big deal with ICS is. What will my phone do or do better with that operating system that it can't do now.
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For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
blueseeker said:
For me, is the joysticks support. I have so many usb joysticks, but none of them are working right now on GingerBread.
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Me too! That feature is real dealbreaker imo.
drelite08 said:
You wont be waiting that long if you're a flash fan. No doubt there will be leaks etc before the official release.
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^This
Besides that, why should I wait for a rom that destroys the beauty of ICS with TouchWiz? I want the pure ICS-experience.
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I dont know why people always want to update to a newer version of android. Will my phone produce ice cream when i get an update. Im happy with what my phone can do at the moment i dont know whats the big deal. after this i think ill go for windows phone which looks more stableand quick.
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Initially I heard ICS for S2 coming next year only, thats fine looking at time required to test stability but throwing the it in Q2 is ridiculous!
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Won't Samsung have had ics to develop the galaxy nexus? If so wouldn't they have been developing the upgrades for their phones, negotiated as part of the deal to make the nexus phone?
I think galaxy S2 will be the first to receive the update before any other device, firstly Samsung and Google worked extremely closely on some of the software aspects of ICS namely the Camera app and the launcher itself, also the Galaxy nexus share some hardware components with the Galaxy S2.
Also lets face it the Galaxy nexus is underwhelming specs-wise except the Screen of course (Even though it's Pentile).
Don't forget that Samsung also want to sell a LOT of their nexus device and making it the only device in their range to have ics makes complete business sense. They've sold lots of sgs2 already, time for the nexus.
I know it may be a little frustrating for us, but as someone has already said, we'll get it much earlier via a leaked ROM.
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Q2 2012? F**k me...
What are people doing with their phones to make them slow and desperately need ICS? Am I missing a free hookers and drugs app?
I agree we will get within weeks of the launch whether it be from Samsung or an AOSP ROM doesn't bother me because the one main gripe I have with AOSP ROM's is the lack of hardware acceleration and the absolutely terrible camera app, Samsung's Touchwiz is hardware accelerated which is why it is so smooth.
It does make perfect business sense to delay ICS for the GS2 but people don't buy the "Google Phone" because of its specifications they buy it because its the "Google Phone" the one advantage of doing this is the quick updates, other than that there are far better devices, the Galaxy Nexus isn't even released yet and its already outclassed by devices such as ours that have been out for over 6 months.
ICS and the screen are the only saving graces of the Galaxy Nexus. needless to say it will still sell extremely well because as I mentioned its the "Google Phone".
Rumours that have suggested Samsung is working on delivering an Android ‘Value Pack’ update for Galaxy S smartphones have been dealt a blow after The Next Web was informed that there are no plans for its release.
At the end of December, Samsung explained that memory issues on the Galaxy range stopped the company from delivering an update for its older smartphones. The TouchWiz interface and Samsung Widgets were said to be unreliable on the ageing handset, helping Samsung make the decision not to update the Galaxy S.
Just a day later, it was reported that Samsung was reconsidering its decision not release an Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) update for the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab, and was apparently readying a “Value Pack” that could deliver new features without a full rollout of the new Android software.
However, a Samsung spokesperson has said that the company will not offer the update due to the hardware specifications of the older Galaxy devices, in that they are limited to and fully optimised for the Gingerbread experience.
The news will frustrate Galaxy S owners that had gotten their hopes up following recent reports, with many still on a two-year contract, they were hoping to see new features on the device. That said, Samsung has begun to roll out Ice Cream Sandwich updates for the Galaxy S II and is working to deliver upgrades for the Galaxy Note and its newer Galaxy Tab models.
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I wonder why after 4 hours nobody has answered yet.
Well, actually everything is said in other threads.
But to sum up, every other manufacturer would do the same.
So hopefully something will change in half a year when i sign a new phone contract.
I am not sure it will be a Samsung again, but after this time, the Galaxy Nexus could be a little bit too old :/
Another useless complain thread... Please check the sticked thread on this and close this one
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k!DDa said:
I wonder why after 4 hours nobody has answered yet.
Well, actually everything is said in other threads.
But to sum up, every other manufacturer would do the same.
So hopefully something will change in half a year when i sign a new phone contract.
I am not sure it will be a Samsung again, but after this time, the Galaxy Nexus could be a little bit too old :/
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The galaxy nexus will never be to old. Haha it just came out and Android will update for at least 2 more years. Look how many updates the nexus one got and use that info to predict how many the GS will get.
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never is kinda exaggerated
since i'm getting a new phone in October 2012 it will be old^^ (for the development's sake)
true ... )))
Another useless flame made by person who is not able to read stickies, but managed to spam the forum...
http://www.androidcentral.com/no-samsung-ics-value-pack-coming
Go into my signature and support ALL Galaxy S variants.
The main complaint about OEM-based handsets relative to the Nexus program is that our updates are delayed (significantly). However, you can reverse this and look at what we have that Nexus users don't. Touchwiz adds enhancements that you don't get on stock Android. Tile-based browser for smoother scrolling? We got it in 2.3.3, they got it in 4.0. Notification widget toggles? We got it in 2.3.3, they got it in 4.2. Enhanced touch responsiveness and overall system smoothness? Ours was better in 2.3.3, their didn't get better until 4.1. System-wide copy-paste? Sense implemented it in 2.1 and Samsung tried it to. Google didn't try it until 2.3, and didn't get it right until 3.0 (4.0 on smartphones). Also, we have expandable storage, and now the Nexus doesn't even have removable batteries. So remember folks, the grass isn't always greener. However, I did want to expand more on this. Here's some statistics;
-Apple concurrently supports three devices on OS updates (iPhone 4, 4S, and 5). They will drop the iPhone 4 just prior to iOS7, and replace it with the iPhone 5S (or whatever they call it).
-Google concurrently supports two devices. They dropped the Nexus One when the Galaxy Nexus was released. They dropped the Nexus S today when the Nexus 4 was released. You can pretty much count on the Galaxy Nexus not getting whatever version of Android releases around the time that the "Nexus 5" is released.
-The Samsung Galaxy S II was officially released on February 13, 2011. It has been out now for 21 months, and it is STILL pending an update. The Nexus S saw 2.3 --> 4.0 -->4.1, and that was it. the Galaxy S II is seeing 2.3 --> 4.0 --> 4.1. Also, Samsung hasn't yet ruled out 4.2, but I will admit that it is unlikely to come to us officially. Bottom line is that the S2 is being supported with updates up until near the release of the Galaxy S4. Two concurrent generations of software updates.
Basically, that puts it:
1. Apple
2. Google/Samsung
3. everyone else
If Android updates matter to you, you get either a Nexus (vanilla, immediate updates) or Samsung (delayed, custom updates with other hardware features). There have been a lot of people lately complaining about the pace of Samsung's updates. To those saying they'd rather have a Nexus, then good for you (sincerely). That's why we have options in Android. To those who left for Sony/Moto/HTC...either you didn't care about updates or you left for another reason. If you left for updates, we'll see you again in about 6 months
I think the biggest complaint isn't about delayed updates but holding back the source code for several parts of the S2...
And 4.1 is probably coming this month.
Edit: 4.1, not 4.2
You can call me a Nexus fanboy I have owned all four Nexus phones every year, liked them all, some more than others. Right now I find the Nexus 4 a good upgrade over the Galaxy Nexus, the N4 has better battery life, a nicer screen once calibrated, and hardware wise much faster and smoother. But at the end of the day, the two phones are not night day radically different.
But some years a Nexus phone is light years ahead of the previous Nexus, I don't feel that with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. Just going on basics, the shape and design of the GNex and N4 are pretty much the same, from afar they look almost the same, and OS wise, not a major difference either, GNex launching with the all new 4.0 ICS, and N4 with JB 4.2, but still, both look pretty much the same with the Holo design etc..
For me the major jaw dropping difference was going from my Nexus-S to Galaxy Nexus, that felt like a major leap forward. The Nexus-S launched as 4" low res screen with Gingerbread, and the Galaxy Nexus launched with the all new ICS 4.0 with a 720p display. When I first got the Galaxy Nexus, and turned it on, I was blown away by it, the high resolution was amazing for the time, and ICS was a huge update over the Nexus-S Gingerbread, it was an amazing big difference in just one year. The two phones were night an day apart.
Again I am comparing them, at what they looked liked, and came with at launch originally. The Nexus-S compared to Galaxy Nexus was HUGE difference, the Galaxy Nexus compared to Nexus 4 not as much.
So what do you think is in store this Fall with the Nexus-Five ? A major leap forward like the N-S to GNex ? Or more of a minor update like GNex to N4 ?
Depends on who the partner is, if HTC I will probably snap the 5 up as HTC know how to make beautiful phones however the N4 is beautiful itself. But I'm assuming it will be faster, etc etc than the current N4 although this phone will last ages to be honest. However tech does move on and whatever the next Nexus is it will be better for that time period boasting newer tech.
I think could go either way. The Nexus-Five could be a major upgrade like N-S to Gnex or just minor like GNex to N4.
I am leaning towards thinking more of a major upgrade due to; Nexus-Five will have a 1080p screen, most likely 4.8" to 5", that's a big update, over the last two Nexus phones both having 4.7" 720p screens. And it will have the all new next generation Android 5,0 Key Lime Pie. Should be a big update there, being a whole new point release. And lastly rumors of the N5 having 3100mAh or so sized battery, that alone would be a huge upgrade in battery life.
Also the big question is, who will be the manufacturer of the new Nexus-Five ? Way to early to say now, but strong rumors of LG again, based off their Optimus Pro phone, but with updated internals, and a 5" screen. Or would not be surprised to see Sony get a shot at making it, and a distant third is getting HTC back into the Nexus game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199130
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194960
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158618
Yay, more Nexus 5 rumors and speculation. There are no hard facts that can be added to this discussion. If another Nexus released, it's going to be an upgrade from the current Nexus 4. This is a given, considering it will be another year after the Nexus 4 released that technology has had to improve, become more cost effective, etc. Aside from that, we cannot really say for sure whether Google is even planning on releasing another Nexus device (although it is extremely likely), much less what it will be like.
Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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If I were to speculate, I would say a newer version of Android, which may or may not be Android 4.3 or 5.0 or w/e they decide to number it (it doesn't matter at all), would be released at I/O as they usually do. Or they may not. Once again, it doesn't matter. Google doesn't release a new phone every time a new version of Android is released.
Jan 2010 - Android 2.1 Eclair released on December 6, 2010 was first used on the Nexus One
May 2010 - Android 2.2 Froyo, no device
December 2010 - Android 2.3 Gingerbread, Nexus S
February 2011 - Android 3.0-3.2 Honeycomb, Motorola Xoom (not that it really counts, in my book)
October 2011 - Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Galaxy Nexus
July 2012 - Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Nexus 7
November 2012 - Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, Nexus 4
Going by history, a new version of Android is fairly likely, with a possible tablet (maybe an update to the Nexus 7). With three straight Nexus phones being released in Q4, a new phone is more likely towards the end of the year. However, this goes back to being entirely speculation and conjecture, and none of us are privy to Google's plans for the future. We can only look at the past, which shows that about twice a year Google releases major updates to Android, with one phone a year, in between October and January.