The main complaint about OEM-based handsets relative to the Nexus program is that our updates are delayed (significantly). However, you can reverse this and look at what we have that Nexus users don't. Touchwiz adds enhancements that you don't get on stock Android. Tile-based browser for smoother scrolling? We got it in 2.3.3, they got it in 4.0. Notification widget toggles? We got it in 2.3.3, they got it in 4.2. Enhanced touch responsiveness and overall system smoothness? Ours was better in 2.3.3, their didn't get better until 4.1. System-wide copy-paste? Sense implemented it in 2.1 and Samsung tried it to. Google didn't try it until 2.3, and didn't get it right until 3.0 (4.0 on smartphones). Also, we have expandable storage, and now the Nexus doesn't even have removable batteries. So remember folks, the grass isn't always greener. However, I did want to expand more on this. Here's some statistics;
-Apple concurrently supports three devices on OS updates (iPhone 4, 4S, and 5). They will drop the iPhone 4 just prior to iOS7, and replace it with the iPhone 5S (or whatever they call it).
-Google concurrently supports two devices. They dropped the Nexus One when the Galaxy Nexus was released. They dropped the Nexus S today when the Nexus 4 was released. You can pretty much count on the Galaxy Nexus not getting whatever version of Android releases around the time that the "Nexus 5" is released.
-The Samsung Galaxy S II was officially released on February 13, 2011. It has been out now for 21 months, and it is STILL pending an update. The Nexus S saw 2.3 --> 4.0 -->4.1, and that was it. the Galaxy S II is seeing 2.3 --> 4.0 --> 4.1. Also, Samsung hasn't yet ruled out 4.2, but I will admit that it is unlikely to come to us officially. Bottom line is that the S2 is being supported with updates up until near the release of the Galaxy S4. Two concurrent generations of software updates.
Basically, that puts it:
1. Apple
2. Google/Samsung
3. everyone else
If Android updates matter to you, you get either a Nexus (vanilla, immediate updates) or Samsung (delayed, custom updates with other hardware features). There have been a lot of people lately complaining about the pace of Samsung's updates. To those saying they'd rather have a Nexus, then good for you (sincerely). That's why we have options in Android. To those who left for Sony/Moto/HTC...either you didn't care about updates or you left for another reason. If you left for updates, we'll see you again in about 6 months
I think the biggest complaint isn't about delayed updates but holding back the source code for several parts of the S2...
And 4.1 is probably coming this month.
Edit: 4.1, not 4.2
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BGR reports that a prototype samsung Galaxy S2? Is in existence and slated for Q1 2011 release. It aparently has a dual core cpu (orion?). They say it could be the samsung branded Nexus S.
http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/15/dual-core-samsung-galaxy-2-to-succeed-galaxy-s-in-q1-2011/
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Since Samsung doesn't ship out updates for their top notch products as often as expected. I'm sure they ship an inverter, ups or generator with this phone to keep it running throughout the day.
It sure seems like Samsung rolled out the Galaxy S line with Eclaire in a Froyo-age for some reason.
Perhaps Samsung plans to give the Galaxy S line only 1 update (from 2.1 to 2.2) and uses this to pave way for the Google Nexus S (or Samsung Galaxy S2) with the Orion chip and rolling out with 2.3 Gingerbread.
I have a feeling that's the way things will shape up and that Google will leave the Nexus One unsupported after 2.3 Gingerbread and begin supporting the Nexus S. Hence, the Nexus S will be the first to get 3.0 Honeycombe and updates after that.
At this time Google will most likely release a Google-Tablet (same as Nexus S but with 10in TFT screen or less possibly with 7in screen). The G-Tab (if 10in) may possibly allow real multitasking by allowing users to halve the screen and run 2 apps in synchrony (like Windows7 but without the ability to move and resize the windows).
There will be 2-Android Markets; phone and tablet editions.
Samsung has burned me and the way they are treating existing there is no way I'm buying another one no matter how good it sounds on paper. screw the hype, it means nothing.
This is how the tech market moves.. it is kind of ridiculous.
I want a Galaxy tab 10.1 but I would love a stock honeycomb version.
Do you guys think that we will have stock flashable Rom quite soon after release now that we have the IO version of the tablet? I suppose they have exactly the same hardware, just different software.
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I hope so. hate Touchwiz too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009614
I'd also love to be able to get a Galaxy Tab with stock Android (and therefore updates directly and timely from Google). Honestly the only thing appealing of TouchWiz on the Galaxy Tab is the quick toggle for settings in the notification area, but that is something you can get with a widget.
I don't think the update with TouchWiz is going to be optional. My bet is, that Samsung will push TouchWiz to all Galaxy Tabs (except maybe the Google IO limited edition ones) as soon as they are done with it.
Why can't the Galaxy Tab be the Nexus of tablest?
Be careful with "directly from Google".
It will not ... because only Google Nexus device will get update directly from Google.
And no, there is no Nexus device for Android tablet.
Most probably at the end of this year when ICS is released.
I bet, Google will announce:
- Google Nexus Tablet
- OS: Android Ice Cream Sandwich
- Processor: Tegra 3 (Quad Core)
- RAM: 1GB
- Display: 10.1", PLS (or at least IPS)
- MicroSD card slot
- 7000 mAH battery
- Thin and light hardware profile
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I'd also love to be able to get a Galaxy Tab with stock Android (and therefore updates directly and timely from Google). Honestly the only thing appealing of TouchWiz on the Galaxy Tab is the quick toggle for settings in the notification area, but that is something you can get with a widget.
I don't think the update with TouchWiz is going to be optional. My bet is, that Samsung will push TouchWiz to all Galaxy Tabs (except maybe the Google IO limited edition ones) as soon as they are done with it.
Why can't the Galaxy Tab be the Nexus of tablest?
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Isn't the Motorola Xoom getting updates directly from Google, although not being part of the Nexus family?
Anyways, I think that without all the crapware/uis of carriers/device manufactures, updates would roll out faster than they do. Probably not as fast as on the Nexus devices, true.
Wouldn't it be super awesome if manufacturers allowed customers to flash a stock rom or a rom with additional ui mods? I don't see why they aren't doing this, as it is almost no extra hassle.
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Be careful with "directly from Google".
It will not ... because only Google Nexus device will get update directly from Google.
And no, there is no Nexus device for Android tablet.
Most probably at the end of this year when ICS is released.
I bet, Google will announce:
- Google Nexus Tablet
- OS: Android Ice Cream Sandwich
- Processor: Tegra 3 (Quad Core)
- RAM: 1GB
- Display: 10.1", PLS (or at least IPS)
- MicroSD card slot
- 7000 mAH battery
- Thin and light hardware profile
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My IO tab has no touchwiz
SGT 10.1 uplink initiative
We’ll be getting the updates from Samsung. In system updates on the 10.1 LE(I/O) you get asked register with Samsung before you can access the update servers. So we will probably see 3.1 followed TouchWiz UX. I suspect custom roms will be the way to avoid TW if you want further OS updates.
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Isn't the Motorola Xoom getting updates directly from Google, although not being part of the Nexus family?
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Nope. All updates are from Motorola for Xooms.
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Nope. All updates are from Motorola for Xooms.
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Actually... moto support reps stated several times that Google was pushing 3.1 to xoom. Google was rolling it out in waves
You can call me a Nexus fanboy I have owned all four Nexus phones every year, liked them all, some more than others. Right now I find the Nexus 4 a good upgrade over the Galaxy Nexus, the N4 has better battery life, a nicer screen once calibrated, and hardware wise much faster and smoother. But at the end of the day, the two phones are not night day radically different.
But some years a Nexus phone is light years ahead of the previous Nexus, I don't feel that with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. Just going on basics, the shape and design of the GNex and N4 are pretty much the same, from afar they look almost the same, and OS wise, not a major difference either, GNex launching with the all new 4.0 ICS, and N4 with JB 4.2, but still, both look pretty much the same with the Holo design etc..
For me the major jaw dropping difference was going from my Nexus-S to Galaxy Nexus, that felt like a major leap forward. The Nexus-S launched as 4" low res screen with Gingerbread, and the Galaxy Nexus launched with the all new ICS 4.0 with a 720p display. When I first got the Galaxy Nexus, and turned it on, I was blown away by it, the high resolution was amazing for the time, and ICS was a huge update over the Nexus-S Gingerbread, it was an amazing big difference in just one year. The two phones were night an day apart.
Again I am comparing them, at what they looked liked, and came with at launch originally. The Nexus-S compared to Galaxy Nexus was HUGE difference, the Galaxy Nexus compared to Nexus 4 not as much.
So what do you think is in store this Fall with the Nexus-Five ? A major leap forward like the N-S to GNex ? Or more of a minor update like GNex to N4 ?
Depends on who the partner is, if HTC I will probably snap the 5 up as HTC know how to make beautiful phones however the N4 is beautiful itself. But I'm assuming it will be faster, etc etc than the current N4 although this phone will last ages to be honest. However tech does move on and whatever the next Nexus is it will be better for that time period boasting newer tech.
I think could go either way. The Nexus-Five could be a major upgrade like N-S to Gnex or just minor like GNex to N4.
I am leaning towards thinking more of a major upgrade due to; Nexus-Five will have a 1080p screen, most likely 4.8" to 5", that's a big update, over the last two Nexus phones both having 4.7" 720p screens. And it will have the all new next generation Android 5,0 Key Lime Pie. Should be a big update there, being a whole new point release. And lastly rumors of the N5 having 3100mAh or so sized battery, that alone would be a huge upgrade in battery life.
Also the big question is, who will be the manufacturer of the new Nexus-Five ? Way to early to say now, but strong rumors of LG again, based off their Optimus Pro phone, but with updated internals, and a 5" screen. Or would not be surprised to see Sony get a shot at making it, and a distant third is getting HTC back into the Nexus game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199130
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194960
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158618
Yay, more Nexus 5 rumors and speculation. There are no hard facts that can be added to this discussion. If another Nexus released, it's going to be an upgrade from the current Nexus 4. This is a given, considering it will be another year after the Nexus 4 released that technology has had to improve, become more cost effective, etc. Aside from that, we cannot really say for sure whether Google is even planning on releasing another Nexus device (although it is extremely likely), much less what it will be like.
Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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If I were to speculate, I would say a newer version of Android, which may or may not be Android 4.3 or 5.0 or w/e they decide to number it (it doesn't matter at all), would be released at I/O as they usually do. Or they may not. Once again, it doesn't matter. Google doesn't release a new phone every time a new version of Android is released.
Jan 2010 - Android 2.1 Eclair released on December 6, 2010 was first used on the Nexus One
May 2010 - Android 2.2 Froyo, no device
December 2010 - Android 2.3 Gingerbread, Nexus S
February 2011 - Android 3.0-3.2 Honeycomb, Motorola Xoom (not that it really counts, in my book)
October 2011 - Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Galaxy Nexus
July 2012 - Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Nexus 7
November 2012 - Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, Nexus 4
Going by history, a new version of Android is fairly likely, with a possible tablet (maybe an update to the Nexus 7). With three straight Nexus phones being released in Q4, a new phone is more likely towards the end of the year. However, this goes back to being entirely speculation and conjecture, and none of us are privy to Google's plans for the future. We can only look at the past, which shows that about twice a year Google releases major updates to Android, with one phone a year, in between October and January.
I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
skyhigh73 said:
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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... and that concerns me.
Please I am a new member here would you please show me how to download akp
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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I don`t think so...
Simply there are 2 devices with almost the same hardware specs (Note 10.1 and Note Pro) the first one (10.1) has recently started to get the 4.4.2 update while the Note Pro was released with the Kitkat 4.4.2 on January 2014.
Another example, the upcoming tablets 10.5 S/Note 4/ Tab 4/...etc will be released with the recent updates 4.4.3 which is still not available for any other Tab/Note/Smart Phone...
I think it is not the matter of software adaptation but the priority goes for the upcoming products not those already released....
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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OEMs can access Google's internal Android's sources before they're open-sourced. Nexus isn't a benchmark - it's a public release of already finished firmware, and patching up the final issues, OEM's updates should follow within one-two months, not 6+ months or more. Since Note 3 is still one of their top phablets with no successors, they had to update it quickly enough to make people stay on their devices - if you'd spend 650 pounds on a device and then wait 6 months (if you're lucky) to get an update, you'd probably be pissed off (and rightfully so). They abandon their low-end devices or older flagships quite quickly.
For example, Galaxy S2 (which I own) was updated to 4.1, but not any further, despite being perfectly capable of doing so. According to Samsung, it's because they ran out of memory with TouchWiz bloatware 99.9% folks never use features, despite the fact that S3 was updated to 4.3, and had 1GB RAM - just as S2 did, S2 /system was 512MB, /preload was another 512MB. S3's firmware was ~800MB. So, really, it's just them having crappy business practices.
Another example? Galaxy Mini 2. It's moderately popular in Poland - it's cheap and "just works", and was released with 2.3 - had a couple of point releases, but never got past Gingerbread. There are 4.x ROMs for this phone here, and they're fast and fine. Capable - just Samsung's not interested. Okay, they were - and eventually announced that no update will be released.
I'm honestly admiring Microsoft for their WP8.1 upgrade policy.
Been there, done that. . My experience with a Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 was enough to convince me not to buy another Verizon variant of a Samsung tablet. If samsung is slow at releasing updates it only gets worse on carrier versions. Look at AT&T... they put in their FCC application at around the same time as Verizon for the Note probut are only now announcing it. In a world where refreshed hardware is released yearly having a 4 month lag in release is a bit concerning.
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Mr Dasher said:
I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
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That's a systemic Android issue. Apple puts out updates to their 7 year old devices, but Android devices are always abandoned in less than a year. Hopefully, we'll get better support for this device.
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
locutusx said:
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.
Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.
As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...
A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.
Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.
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Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.
My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.
Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...
I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.
I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE
Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?
Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).