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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
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Source: Engadget.com
I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's
could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices
Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...
i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3
its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev
Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
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18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
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What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
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You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.
Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
Cheers
Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.
This sounds like a positive move to me.
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).
compumasta said:
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
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Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.
This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.
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SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
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So Q2 2011 is the date..
Edit 1 week later
They have sent another mail about that mail (the one above) saying that:
"We would like to correct the statement that we have told you in the previous mail about Android 2.2 version. The information that has been given to you by SE Customer Service is not true We are sorry about the misinforming..
I guess Jeff's investigation worked out Cheers
already have 2.2 on mine waiting for next version of AOSP that TeamX10 are working on. I dont want another SE ROM on my phone unless i have to have one
Thanks for sharing that anyway, it will get many people excited!
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SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011.
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What means it will be around q3 2012...
But that's great news, imo! I think they want to make amends for all the delays with 2.1.
Well... 2.1, then Dual-touch, then 2.2... Sounds like an almost apropriate "excuse-us" for me.
hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
Tony_C said:
I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
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Yes. It is two years indeed.
So how much time do we have until EOF then?
Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
We're not talking about warranty - SE have committed to support the X10 with software updates for 2 years.. so it would go "end of life" March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
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EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
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SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
So Q2 2011 is the date..
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Given my limited Turkish, I think it reads something more along the lines of:
Ha! fools - do you honestly think you're going to get 2.2 in this lifetime. As an absolute best, products we release in 2011 may get a 2.2 upgrade, providing it is at least 3 or 4 steps behind the current Android release
Like I say, my Turkish is pretty poor, but I think that's the gist of it...
skyleth said:
correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
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I think you have it reversed, Warranty is 1yr, support is 2 yrs.
"This Limited Warranty will last for a period of one (1)
year as from the original date of purchase of the Product"
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EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997. All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
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Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
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Yep thought so
Missing Ericsson from the 90s
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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woah woah woah, calm down please, I have not mentioned ONE WORD about SE being late. All I'm saying is whether the info is correct. We (SE and I) have had times where the customer support are not well informed. We've seen MANY cases here since before the 2.1 update. I never said SE will abandon their phones either, but internal people (like me) would know when the EOL of each handset is, and they only last 1 year. 1 1/2 AT MOST. Aino got extended due to the new Classic edition release, but they're the only exception so far. So please don't start bashing on me, I was just suggesting and warn about the info, not to bash on SE.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
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The devs got 2.3 update since last weekend on the new handsets. SE skipped 2.2 and went straight from 2.1 update-1 to 2.3 on the new handsets (Our X10 will still receive the update-2 however, the update-1 on the new handsets was only for debugging) So MR is already wrong on their facts, and I'm not surprised since Eldar isn't the one who wrote it.
My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
Zorachus said:
My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
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Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
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That is kind of what I think too. Then it makes me wonder, the EVO-2, should be out I am sure, on the one year anniversary of the EVO, so that would be in June, to compete with the iPhone5
But with HTC slower to bring out updates due to SENSE UI, will the EVO-2 be a "Gingerbread" dual core device, or hopefully a "Honeycomb" dual core phone ? What are the predictions ?
Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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Well we've known of it for months, and besides i never claimed to be very patient
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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Honeycomb will be shown off on tablets in just a few days, and I'd expect those tablets to be on store shelves in just a matter of weeks. My guess is that Honeycomb (or it's equivalent for phones) will follow the usual Android update schedule and will be released for phones in May. With the Nexus S just dropping I'd expect that the new OS is being developed on it, so HTC will probably be scrambling around May to get it working on their phones. The EVO 2 (if it even will exist) will probably be announced a few weeks before that so chances are that it will ship with 2.3 and get the newer update a few months/weeks later just like the original EVO.
As for 2.3 on the EVO. I wouldn't hold my breath. There's a decent shot of it coming but with all the new flagship phones that HTC now supports, it's probably a low priority for them. If it does come, I wouldn't be surprised if that it takes as long as March or more.
I was pretty surprised how fast the EVO officially got 2.2 it was like two months after the phone came out. So in theory can we expect 2.3 Gingerbread for the EVO in mid to late February ? I wouldn't be surprised if it does come out around then. Because around that time "Honeycomb" will soon be getting all the press and being released on the major Tablets in March they say.
Strictly theory and conjecture? I'd say late February. I know we're going to be one of the first to get GB, but I also know that Sprint likes to take its sweet ass time releasing updates. You have to remember that HTC releases the beta to the telecoms, and they beta test like crazy before release. Sprint just happens to take the longest usually.
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Nobody knows when it's coming out. We're neither psychics nor HTC employees. Your only safe bet is that it's not today, it's not tomorrow, and CyanogenMod 7 Nightlies will be out first.
Zorachus said:
My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Hell, maybe never being that CES is next week and the evo shift is on the horizon.
Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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Zorachus said:
Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
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No.
sand1303 said:
If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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No, but you wouldn't want it anyways. A rooted version would be out <48 hours afterwards, in which you could keep your root.
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No.
No, but you wouldn't want it anyways.
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yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
indagroove said:
yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.
I was actually in a corporate Sprint store a couple days ago and overheard two employees talking about the evos "update sometime next (this) month".
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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.
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Only if they alter the rom version info, which seems pointless to me.
Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Honeycomb is for tablets only...
my guess is..
we will know by end of feb.
I am, and I'll tell you why.
Samsung hasn't even started building a GB ROM for our phone, and that's kind of weird to me, because I would think that they would have something.
I don't remember where I read this, and this could be wrong, but doesn't the carrier has to request the update, and then the manufacturer builds it? (I can be COMPLETELY wrong, so don't hold me to this) If that's true, then we may not see a GB build, because T-Mobile USA wouldn't request it.
Tell me what you think, because this interests me a lot.
Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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iynfynity said:
Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81421451059671040
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81257522966700032
There.
They posted the GS4G leak, the Cappy leak, and they have a leak for the Epic 4G.
since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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It's not that, SamFirmware stated (and I honestly believe them, if they found all these leaks for other phones so quickly), that there's no Vibrant (SGH-T959) build, which could mean A LOT of things, possibly something as simple as Samsung is really lazy and doesn't want to upload it, but it would mean more.
I'm just saying, I don't know what's up, but I'd like to know more.
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
djquick said:
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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Unfortunately, this is most likely the truth. :/
I hope they don't forget us. All we want is a leak.
Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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THAT's the only thing good thing for us about all these leaks, we have working GPS now.
djquick said:
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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I fart very fast...
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I noticed that as well. But you have to remember that T-Mobile plays real dirty. Remember when we had 2.2 leaks back late November (JK2)? It didn't become official until #NeverAgain made such a huge PR mess for them that Samsung & T-Mobile had to release it. But it was up until then, that T-Mobile didn't want to update out phones because of the pending MT4G & SGS4G release, dirty mfers...
By the way this issue gets more complicated now with the AT&T merger. AT&T strongly believes that updates are not good for business. From their point of view if they don't do updates it gives users more reasons to upgrade to new phones.
So if TMo was borderline crap about this already, the adoption by AT&T is only going to delay things further.
What does that mean for us, enjoy the awesome roms on xda and forget about TMo.
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Just read da tweets someone should just port from 4g to us
Ya boy
Ya, but Google kind of helped us all out with that. Its not up to the carriers if a phone is going to get an update anymore. If Manufactures want to use Android they have to abide by the 18 month update cycle this goes for carriers too. They have to provided updates to newer versions of Android during the first 18 month of a phones life. Our Vibrants really only have six months left of that 18 though. So don't expect an official Ice Cream Sandwich update. I wish google had been enforcing this rule back in the days of the original cliq and cliq xt. The poor XT didn't even get an update out of 1.5. I think Google has gotten tired of all the negative press that manufactures are developing because of the unwillingness to update phones. Of course as you we all know a lot of this has to do with carriers not wanting these updates or their need for unreasonable software packages they want add to the update packages.
How shock i am? Look at this pic.
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Hmm I don't see it as a problem, well at least as long as we have the vibrant 4g, I'm just waiting for the sgs2, then I'll be gone
Well we cant be mad at samsung as its not there fault its tmobil. Most of us will be moving to hercules or sgs2 anyway so no worries crying over this in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's time to accept the likelihood that Samsung/T-mo won't be providing much further development or support for the Vibrant given the new product lines. It doesn't mean it'll be obsolete though. Thanks developers!
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
j1635 said:
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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Believe me it does matter.
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https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705#nexus_devices
Google created a timeline for Nexus devices.
Lists Nexus 6 no guaranteed support after October 2016......I feel like I just got this device too.........
............actually I did....I just bought it around Black Friday last year.
Me too so sad to see this happen
mikeprius said:
Lists Nexus 6 no guaranteed support after October 2016.......
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Sounds good; no more monthly Ota I hope.
This only determines OS updates. We'll get monthly OTAs for another year. Looking back at N5 and N4, I'm sure we'll get 7.0.1, 7.1 and so on...
Lawstorant said:
This only determines OS updates. We'll get monthly OTAs for another year. Looking back at N5 and N4, I'm sure we'll get 7.0.1, 7.1 and so on...
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Exactly, we'll get Android N and all the updates it brings. We will not get Android O for sure, at least not officially When you have a nexus and know what a rom is, that's not a big problem.
Plan on selling mine and getting whatever the next Nexus is; two years is enough time for me time to move on.
Nope just will not buy their devices anymore this is the last one for me!
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AstroDigital said:
Plan on selling mine and getting whatever the next Nexus is; two years is enough time for me time to move on.
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Seems there are 2 options for Google Nexus devices:
A. No guaranteed support
B. No support
Guys pls don't bash me but iPhone 4s launched 4 years back was updated to iOS 9 and will probably get iOS 10 as well...At least for nexus devices Google needs to have a longer update horizon , maybe at least 2 years from the date the device was last sold ...no I did not say iPhone is better , calm down
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I think they should be updating longer as well, but it's not like they haven't been upfront about it for a long time now. It's less of an issue to me, as I always run community ROMs and there are going to be devs supporting AOSP builds for a long time to come.
http://www.xda-developers.com/updat...panic-nexus-phones-dont-have-execution-dates/
Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean OS updates will stop. Look at the N5 and N7 2013.
Guys, this is a nexus. I don't even run stock the moment I received my nexuses. So I don't mind about firmware support.
On the other hand, Google had the best customer support I've ever encountered. I had problems with a few unit of my nexus and got replacement several times without a problem.
mikeprius said:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705#nexus_devices
Google created a timeline for Nexus devices.
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Simple would be: a Nexus device can expect to receive updates for 2 years and security updates for 3 years.
A list with dates is unrealistic because they use the words ' no guaranteed '
mchlbenner said:
Nope just will not buy their devices anymore this is the last one for me!
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Yeah, buy a Samsung. It's exactly 18 months, then curtains.
dont worry about google **** updates , there are CM
istperson said:
Yeah, buy a Samsung. It's exactly 18 months, then curtains.
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Could be worse I suppose. Could spend $800+ on a new phone and have a locked bootloader from the mfg like the Galaxy S7. LOL :highfive:
mchlbenner said:
Nope just will not buy their devices anymore this is the last one for me!
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You could always migrate to Shamsung or htc, where the official support period is about six months shorter......because it takes six months for the update to arrive.
Well, you get at least 3 years of support.
@vivebatu, have you seen iphone 4 on ios9?
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I purchased this device knowing that as soon as I got it powered up I was going to unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery and then root. I even had Multirom planned and a few custom Roms picked out.
That's why I got it. Not for the camera or SOT, but for development and testing and to just have fun with it. Even if they stop supporting it in October there will still be custom Roms for it and several good stock builds too.
I plan on getting what ever Google builds to replace this device but am planning on keeping this around and ready to go. With 3gigs of ram, and the processor it has, this device will be around for some time yet and still be a formidable device.
Just my humble opinion.
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It didn't need an announcement probably, but Sony has confirmed its plans to release (no date given though) Android 7.0 update for Xperia Z5, among other devices.
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I hope for a new UI from Xperia X family and some new feautres from 7.0 like notification direct reply and multi-window view.
All i want is new status bar and multiscreen.
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Oh God, I don't think I'm ready to get on the hype-train just yet. Just like it's too early to get excited about Christmas
wouldn't expect to see it till at least April next year going by previous updates by Sony
No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
Honestly? I'd like to receive early updates following the Google patch cycle. Constantly.
I saw somewhere (forget where it was) that considering how fast (or slow) Sony update their devices, roll-out will probably start by February 2017. It also says Samsung will do by January-February of the same year.
Sad. I want it now. Lol
ricodredd said:
Oh God, I don't think I'm ready to get on the hype-train just yet. Just like it's too early to get excited about Christmas
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lol, that is about when we should expect it
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G4B33 said:
No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
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Welcome to Sony, one of the reasons my next phone will not be Sony unless they wake up an provide an updated phone that is up to specs or better thn it's competitors at the same/similar price point
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iain26 said:
wouldn't expect to see it till at least April next year going by previous updates by Sony
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Actually you are probably closer
All I want is a fast camera with no shutter lag or whatsoever.
mugglearchitect said:
I saw somewhere (forget where it was) that considering how fast (or slow) Sony update their devices, roll-out will probably start by February 2017. It also says Samsung will do by January-February of the same year.
Sad. I want it now. Lol
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This is one of the main reasons I'm planning on ditching Sony when I get my next phone, this and increasingly poor build quality.
expect 7.0 upodate for Sony around late november. Since this yearly android update is released earlier and OEMs had acces to the code much sooner thus we'll get the update sooner. You guys are way too pessimistic about this
we're pessimistic because we know what Sony are like with updates and doubt there going to change now
Guess what guys, they get ready for it...
Xperia Home just rolled an update. Read the log.
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ciprianmp said:
Guess what guys, they get ready for it...
Xperia Home just rolled an update. Read the log.
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Considering the number of devices to get this update is really small, I assume we should get is very soon and definitely BEFORE the christmas.
Otherwise it will be another shame for Sony...
Wasted1300RPEU said:
expect 7.0 upodate for Sony around late november. Since this yearly android update is released earlier and OEMs had acces to the code much sooner thus we'll get the update sooner. You guys are way too pessimistic about this
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Considering the number of devices to get this update is really small, I assume we should get is very soon and definitely BEFORE the christmas.
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Hang on a sec...we're not pessimistic - we're not delusional either. It's almost September now. What's the latest Z5 security patch level? Oh yeah, 1st April. So "wee little" security patches are 5 months behind but you guys reckon the entire Operating System, Android Nougat will drop within the next 4 months?!?
Dream on guys. Wish you were right but...
I preferible stability over speed. I didnt have a single crash or reboot with z5 sibce i bought las year
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ricodredd said:
Hang on a sec...we're not pessimistic - we're not delusional either. It's almost September now. What's the latest Z5 security patch level? Oh yeah, 1st April. So "wee little" security patches are 5 months behind but you guys reckon the entire Operating System, Android Nougat will drop within the next 4 months?!?
Dream on guys. Wish you were right but...
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Admittedly, Sony update is not keeping up with Security patches from Google, unless they include it in a bigger bugfix/major upgrade release. So I wouldn't take that as a reference.
We were all disappointed for the late MM release by Sony, but I don't think N will bring so many dramatic changes from M, as M brought from L.
Also, I don't think they have a flagship series replacement on their agenda until February, a it happened during MM preparation.
Let's just stay optimistic.
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After the time it took for Marshmallow I hope Sony can get it out by Christmas, there is no excuse anymore to not release an update when Google release previews themselves. This isn't ICS which was more or less a complete overhaul of Android.
This is a minor update in comparison to ICS, Marshmallow was minor but took half a year for Sony to roll out. Hope Sony can get 7.0 out by November, I expect perhaps one more update after that before support is ended, but by then I will probably get a new phone.
G4B33 said:
No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
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LLabtoofer said HTC M8 and other Snapdragon 800/801 devices won't get 7.0 as Qualcomm will no longer support their drivers. I think it is likely Sony will bring features from the previews to the Z3, but it won't be the true 7.0, just the developer build - the same goes for other devices like the Nexus 5 and OnePlus One.