SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
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So Q2 2011 is the date..
Edit 1 week later
They have sent another mail about that mail (the one above) saying that:
"We would like to correct the statement that we have told you in the previous mail about Android 2.2 version. The information that has been given to you by SE Customer Service is not true We are sorry about the misinforming..
I guess Jeff's investigation worked out Cheers
already have 2.2 on mine waiting for next version of AOSP that TeamX10 are working on. I dont want another SE ROM on my phone unless i have to have one
Thanks for sharing that anyway, it will get many people excited!
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SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011.
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What means it will be around q3 2012...
But that's great news, imo! I think they want to make amends for all the delays with 2.1.
Well... 2.1, then Dual-touch, then 2.2... Sounds like an almost apropriate "excuse-us" for me.
hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
Tony_C said:
I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
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Yes. It is two years indeed.
So how much time do we have until EOF then?
Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
We're not talking about warranty - SE have committed to support the X10 with software updates for 2 years.. so it would go "end of life" March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
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EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
aLPaSLaN07 said:
SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
So Q2 2011 is the date..
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Given my limited Turkish, I think it reads something more along the lines of:
Ha! fools - do you honestly think you're going to get 2.2 in this lifetime. As an absolute best, products we release in 2011 may get a 2.2 upgrade, providing it is at least 3 or 4 steps behind the current Android release
Like I say, my Turkish is pretty poor, but I think that's the gist of it...
skyleth said:
correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
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I think you have it reversed, Warranty is 1yr, support is 2 yrs.
"This Limited Warranty will last for a period of one (1)
year as from the original date of purchase of the Product"
unknown13x said:
EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997. All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
MJ_QaT said:
Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
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Yep thought so
Missing Ericsson from the 90s
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
batman_112 said:
Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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woah woah woah, calm down please, I have not mentioned ONE WORD about SE being late. All I'm saying is whether the info is correct. We (SE and I) have had times where the customer support are not well informed. We've seen MANY cases here since before the 2.1 update. I never said SE will abandon their phones either, but internal people (like me) would know when the EOL of each handset is, and they only last 1 year. 1 1/2 AT MOST. Aino got extended due to the new Classic edition release, but they're the only exception so far. So please don't start bashing on me, I was just suggesting and warn about the info, not to bash on SE.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
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The devs got 2.3 update since last weekend on the new handsets. SE skipped 2.2 and went straight from 2.1 update-1 to 2.3 on the new handsets (Our X10 will still receive the update-2 however, the update-1 on the new handsets was only for debugging) So MR is already wrong on their facts, and I'm not surprised since Eldar isn't the one who wrote it.
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Here's the link
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Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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Here's the link
Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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Hopefully!!!!!
Well, this notice may be shown for next week. Something has happened, but MR1 is still unavailable at last... But I still hope that it will be released today.
royalbloodvi said:
Here's the link
Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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Where's the link? Am i blind? http://www.sonyericsson.com/update don't come up with anything new and a "Update service" tells me I have the latest software.
EDIT: Aha, a refresh of http://www.sonyericsson.com/update gives "Coming soon. Come back later". Later this spring, year, decade? A "march update" should really be out in march and it scares me SE seems to be working on the update to the very last minute (or even longer?), will it be as good as SE (and customers) planned for?
Yes, this is because MR1 isn´t available now! SE only says that: Comming soon... But when is soon ?
surely we all know by now that when a company says "march" it means it could be march/april/may lol. especially with software. they can only guess when they will finish theres no definate science to it. if theres a delay its because theyve not finished ironing out any bugs not because they cant be bothered to let us have it. the main thing is we know theyre serious about supporting the X2 and its on the way...
remember this isnt just an update to fix bugs its also an upgrade to wm6.5.2 so im sure they have their fair share of headaches making sure all existing software works with the newer operating system.
What the hell. Why make a topic saying it's available when it's not.
You could of said "it's coming soon"
I just brought a Xperia X2. Tomorrow it arrives.
I expect to install the MR1 Update as soon at it gets it.
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surely we all know by now that when a company says "march" it means it could be march/april/may lol. especially with software. they can only guess when they will finish theres no definate science to it. if theres a delay its because theyve not finished ironing out any bugs not because they cant be bothered to let us have it. the main thing is we know theyre serious about supporting the X2 and its on the way...
remember this isnt just an update to fix bugs its also an upgrade to wm6.5.2 so im sure they have their fair share of headaches making sure all existing software works with the newer operating system.
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I guess your post is addressed to me so here's my answer:
Companies says this and that and you say we (their customers) have to accept whatever bull**** they throw at us. This should be because of some new born truth, when they say yes they mean no, perhaps or even yes? Well, you, me and many of the users here have been ****ed over and over again so now it's ok?
I can just think how this sort of behavior would be accepted if it concerned delivery of your new car for example. You could probably accept a delay if your told in reasonable time. But if the car dealer did a ostrich putting the head in the sand you'll probably go bullocks, just as I do now over SE. As a comparison, look at Microsofts "patch Tuesday", is it ok for them to send out patches at Thursdays instead?
SE officially said February 2: "In March, we’ll launch our first upgrade" and February 26 they narrowed the release down to, if I remember the exact phrase, "late March". It can be read/seen at http://xperiancers.com/ Nowhere can we see or read about any delay and with that information provided by SE we should expect nothing other than a March release. You me and everyone we know perhaps knows this isn't so but we should never accept it.
royalbloodvi said:
Here's the link
Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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If this is supposed to be a joke. Do you hear anyone laughing in here? I'll give you my final comment tomorrow.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the last post at xperiancers.com is that they're shutting down (remember the ostrich?) Ok, they say they moving to the product blog. Well head over there for yourselves and see if you can find any posts or even a X2 category. Not a sound of any delays.
5 hours 20 min left...
In 5 hours 20 min... Sweden turns april and no MR1 in sight!!
My X2 had some problems with camera and no memorycard and performance issues. My old HTC Touch Pro in some way better... Windows phone 6.5, hmm not impressed yet. If Mobile 7 don't "rock" (with new phone) Android or other OS is my new choice...
It says on the SE site:
Did you know that we're always improving our software? For up to 2 years after launch our software team work hard to give you the best phone experience with better performance, new features and bug fixes. Are you up to date? Select your phone from the list below to find out.
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Makes me feel anger towards sony's marketing department.
I am 99% sure it will come next week (at least for Russia, don't know about others) (it is not 100% info, but it is close to it).
Can't wait to test it on X1
On the official Polish fanclub of Sony Ericsson, one admin wrote that the update should be available this week. He attached two pictures with radio and videocalling added.
johnny1277f said:
On the official Polish fanclub of Sony Ericsson, one admin wrote that the update should be available this week. He attached two pictures with radio and videocalling added.
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Great.
What is the link?
Here: forum.fanklub.se/x2/aktualizacja-x2%29/msg15848/#msg15848
johnny1277f said:
Here: forum.fanklub.se/x2/aktualizacja-x2)/msg15848/#msg15848
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Wrong link!
Ok got it:
http://forum.fanklub.se/x2/aktualizacja-x2)/msg15848/#msg15848
no my previous post wasnt particularly aimed at anyone. it seemed that people where taking the "march" release date a bit too literaly. yes they did say march but we've all owned phones and other technological goods long enough now to know that when a company says a release date its not set in stone. no matter what the item or product, when delivery is involved its always sensible to factor in a bit of leeway for unforseen circumstances unless a specific exact time and date are promised. and in this case it wasnt. it was just a notice on a blog. until a specific date is announced then its sensible to assume that march could mean begining of april.
the only way a company can give a firm date about something is if it was finished and ready to go. eg a car or something physical that has a manufactureing lead time. they can give an exact release date because it takes a measurable time to manufacture the finished tested product and they know exactly how long it will take.
with software updates you can release it the day its finished testing. theres no lead time or manufacturing delay. so when they announce a release date 3months in advance its just a best guess because theyve obviously not finished it when they made that announcement. theres no way they can guarentee that date, they cant foresee every problem that arises. they can only give best guess assuming everything proceeds smoothly. if the release date arrives and the software is still buggy then theyre goin to delay the release to give the customer a better product. sony havent released the update because its not ready not because they want to piss us off or because they dont care or have poor customer service. if anything it shows they value their customers because theyre not willing to fob us off with a crappy buggy firmware release.
from all indications and the notice on the sony website it does seem that the update is very close. if they get it out first week of april then im not going to fuss over a couple of days. but if it takes longer than that ill gladly join the ranks of unhappy people kicking up a fuss.
with regards to there being no mention of the X2 on the new weblog its because today isnt April 1st. the X2 had its own blog so wasnt mentioned on there before. if you read the notice on the xperiancers blog you will see it says they are closing the X2 blog on april 1st which is tomorrow and then moving everything across. not sure if that means theyre moving the old announcements and posts across aswell.
"As of the first of April, we’ll shut this site down and move everything to blogs.sonyericsson.com/products then the posts from Aaron, Me, and the team at Wolfstar will continue there."
April is here, but ROM is still nowhere... Thanks SE.
jkoljo said:
It says on the SE site:
Makes me feel anger towards sony's marketing department.
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Often marketing and development are not communicating very well. Like:
Marketing: "When it will be finished?"
Development: "With 20 people at the end of april."
Marketing: "OK, let's say 10 people and march."
Duh!
And S-E marketing must be really smoking weed or so, because what sensible company would release phones like Vivaz AND Vivaz Pro, X10 Mini AND X10 Mini Pro? Who would buy non-Pro version anyway?
Anyway, today I'm going to buy and try X2, so I expect myself to join the ranks of angry Xperia users :-D
(But with my demands there is no alternative save maybe for B7610 which proven to be a fail )
My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
swaze said:
Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
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That is kind of what I think too. Then it makes me wonder, the EVO-2, should be out I am sure, on the one year anniversary of the EVO, so that would be in June, to compete with the iPhone5
But with HTC slower to bring out updates due to SENSE UI, will the EVO-2 be a "Gingerbread" dual core device, or hopefully a "Honeycomb" dual core phone ? What are the predictions ?
Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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Well we've known of it for months, and besides i never claimed to be very patient
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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Honeycomb will be shown off on tablets in just a few days, and I'd expect those tablets to be on store shelves in just a matter of weeks. My guess is that Honeycomb (or it's equivalent for phones) will follow the usual Android update schedule and will be released for phones in May. With the Nexus S just dropping I'd expect that the new OS is being developed on it, so HTC will probably be scrambling around May to get it working on their phones. The EVO 2 (if it even will exist) will probably be announced a few weeks before that so chances are that it will ship with 2.3 and get the newer update a few months/weeks later just like the original EVO.
As for 2.3 on the EVO. I wouldn't hold my breath. There's a decent shot of it coming but with all the new flagship phones that HTC now supports, it's probably a low priority for them. If it does come, I wouldn't be surprised if that it takes as long as March or more.
I was pretty surprised how fast the EVO officially got 2.2 it was like two months after the phone came out. So in theory can we expect 2.3 Gingerbread for the EVO in mid to late February ? I wouldn't be surprised if it does come out around then. Because around that time "Honeycomb" will soon be getting all the press and being released on the major Tablets in March they say.
Strictly theory and conjecture? I'd say late February. I know we're going to be one of the first to get GB, but I also know that Sprint likes to take its sweet ass time releasing updates. You have to remember that HTC releases the beta to the telecoms, and they beta test like crazy before release. Sprint just happens to take the longest usually.
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Nobody knows when it's coming out. We're neither psychics nor HTC employees. Your only safe bet is that it's not today, it's not tomorrow, and CyanogenMod 7 Nightlies will be out first.
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My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Hell, maybe never being that CES is next week and the evo shift is on the horizon.
Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
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No.
sand1303 said:
If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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No, but you wouldn't want it anyways. A rooted version would be out <48 hours afterwards, in which you could keep your root.
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No.
No, but you wouldn't want it anyways.
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yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
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yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.
I was actually in a corporate Sprint store a couple days ago and overheard two employees talking about the evos "update sometime next (this) month".
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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.
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Only if they alter the rom version info, which seems pointless to me.
Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Honeycomb is for tablets only...
my guess is..
we will know by end of feb.
Today Xperia blog posted that SE UK officially announced that there will be no froyo or gingerbread released for X10 family
Source
http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/01/06...-will-not-receive-upgrade-to-froyo-or-beyond/
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Today Xperia blog posted that SE UK officially announced that there will be no froyo or gingerbread released for X10 family
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http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/01/06...-will-not-receive-upgrade-to-froyo-or-beyond/
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TADA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902414
It is so obvious
Android 2.2 and above has the option of installing apps on SD card, phone with 2.2 dosent require 1GB of internal memory. SE designed this so as to support till 2.1
This is awesome!!!!!!!!!
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If you remember the phone came out before froyo was announced. You can't accuse them of not designing the phone for something that didn't exist at the time.
Having said that, it isn't an excuse for not supporting froyo. Everyone knows it can handle it. Heck, there are custom Roms lol
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If you remember the phone came out before froyo was announced. You can't accuse them of not designing the phone for something that didn't exist at the time.
Having said that, it isn't an excuse for not supporting froyo. Everyone knows it can handle it. Heck, there are custom Roms lol
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HTC Magic wasn't designed for 1.6...nor 2.1...and it got officially updated to froyo:
http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2010/12/14/htc-magic-gets-froyo-on-vodafone-uk/
That ins't an excuse in my opinion, the new xperia mini is almost like our x10 and it will have froyo.
As i said in another thread, i'm wondering now what are those "great news" unknown13x was talking about...because i can't seem to find anything great apart from froyo or gingerbread... (knowing we will got MT and DLNA in the next update)
LOL i was right all along
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Hey any of you remember this? This guy got flamed hardcore by SE believers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772523
Not starting a flame war again, but SE has been known to do this as I said in one of my posts in this thread. No surprise here.
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Hey any of you remember this? This guy got flamed hardcore by SE believers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772523
Not starting a flame war again, but SE has been known to do this as I said in one of my posts in this thread. No surprise here.
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it would seems like that guy is rite. perhaps he's from SE company. i wonder...
That's what he stated, he was a part of the DEV team. Other than spelling Xperia "experia", it seemed to me that he knew what he was talking about.
For those who haven't seen, SE UK posted this to their Twitter feed earlier:
http://twitter.com/#!/SonyEricssonUK/status/23028920475455488 said:
We believe the features included in the Android 2.1 phone are on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of 2.2 #X10
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Idiots! They're getting flamed (rightly so) for it too.
Read through the SELeak thread again and laughed at all the smart folks here.
Just playing devil's advocate here, but nowhere have I seen SE state that the X10 series will get no more updates. Maybe they're skipping 2.2 in favor of 2.4?
nekkidtruth said:
Just playing devil's advocate here, but nowhere have I seen SE state that the X10 series will get no more updates. Maybe they're skipping 2.2 in favor of 2.4?
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i think they said no froyo and onwards.
Hmm... I wonder where unknown13 is?
Lol maybe he didn't know about this either...
Or if he did, maybe he heard that there wasn't going to be a Froyo update and hence assumed that X10 will get gingerbread
my X10 is heavily used for exchange, gmail syncs and gaming. so i need to keep the os updated. well i guess i'll be selling my X10 very soon. unless we can get the hardware working off the AOSP mods and the darn bootloader
i've always liked SE phones but i think that's the last of it... HTC FTW
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Rikard Skogberg says: January 6, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Hi all First – As a clarification regarding the current Xperia products –
We are planning another upgrade to bring new features (such as for example multi-touch for Xperia X10) to the current family of Xperia™ smartphones in Q1 2011.
However, at this stage those plans do not include updating the underlying Android version
This decision is based on that we believe that with the current hardware platform an overhaul of the underlying core OS wouldn’t drastically improve the user experience
We believe that the current Xperia range on Android 2.1 coupled with our proprietary upgrades and unique hardware delivers a user experience that is on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of Android 2.2
Our priority right now is to keep enhancing the user experience of the existing products through coming updates and to deliver a fantastic range of smartphones in 2011 that are all on the latest possible version of Android – that is a target we are determined to hit! version of Android – that is a target we are determined to hit
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sopdogg said:
That's what he stated, he was a part of the DEV team. Other than spelling Xperia "experia", it seemed to me that he knew what he was talking about.
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For one, I know that while toying with the brand SE did use "Experia" at one point or another.
Some of those guys that gave him all that rot, should very seriously apologize in that thread.
Oh it is disappointing My eyes on Xperia Arc now
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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
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I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's
could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices
Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...
i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3
its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev
Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
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18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
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What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
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You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.
Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
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What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.
This sounds like a positive move to me.
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).
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To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
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Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.
This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.
It didn't need an announcement probably, but Sony has confirmed its plans to release (no date given though) Android 7.0 update for Xperia Z5, among other devices.
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I hope for a new UI from Xperia X family and some new feautres from 7.0 like notification direct reply and multi-window view.
All i want is new status bar and multiscreen.
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Oh God, I don't think I'm ready to get on the hype-train just yet. Just like it's too early to get excited about Christmas
wouldn't expect to see it till at least April next year going by previous updates by Sony
No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
Honestly? I'd like to receive early updates following the Google patch cycle. Constantly.
I saw somewhere (forget where it was) that considering how fast (or slow) Sony update their devices, roll-out will probably start by February 2017. It also says Samsung will do by January-February of the same year.
Sad. I want it now. Lol
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Oh God, I don't think I'm ready to get on the hype-train just yet. Just like it's too early to get excited about Christmas
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lol, that is about when we should expect it
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No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
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Welcome to Sony, one of the reasons my next phone will not be Sony unless they wake up an provide an updated phone that is up to specs or better thn it's competitors at the same/similar price point
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iain26 said:
wouldn't expect to see it till at least April next year going by previous updates by Sony
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Actually you are probably closer
All I want is a fast camera with no shutter lag or whatsoever.
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I saw somewhere (forget where it was) that considering how fast (or slow) Sony update their devices, roll-out will probably start by February 2017. It also says Samsung will do by January-February of the same year.
Sad. I want it now. Lol
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This is one of the main reasons I'm planning on ditching Sony when I get my next phone, this and increasingly poor build quality.
expect 7.0 upodate for Sony around late november. Since this yearly android update is released earlier and OEMs had acces to the code much sooner thus we'll get the update sooner. You guys are way too pessimistic about this
we're pessimistic because we know what Sony are like with updates and doubt there going to change now
Guess what guys, they get ready for it...
Xperia Home just rolled an update. Read the log.
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ciprianmp said:
Guess what guys, they get ready for it...
Xperia Home just rolled an update. Read the log.
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Considering the number of devices to get this update is really small, I assume we should get is very soon and definitely BEFORE the christmas.
Otherwise it will be another shame for Sony...
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expect 7.0 upodate for Sony around late november. Since this yearly android update is released earlier and OEMs had acces to the code much sooner thus we'll get the update sooner. You guys are way too pessimistic about this
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Considering the number of devices to get this update is really small, I assume we should get is very soon and definitely BEFORE the christmas.
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Hang on a sec...we're not pessimistic - we're not delusional either. It's almost September now. What's the latest Z5 security patch level? Oh yeah, 1st April. So "wee little" security patches are 5 months behind but you guys reckon the entire Operating System, Android Nougat will drop within the next 4 months?!?
Dream on guys. Wish you were right but...
I preferible stability over speed. I didnt have a single crash or reboot with z5 sibce i bought las year
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ricodredd said:
Hang on a sec...we're not pessimistic - we're not delusional either. It's almost September now. What's the latest Z5 security patch level? Oh yeah, 1st April. So "wee little" security patches are 5 months behind but you guys reckon the entire Operating System, Android Nougat will drop within the next 4 months?!?
Dream on guys. Wish you were right but...
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Admittedly, Sony update is not keeping up with Security patches from Google, unless they include it in a bigger bugfix/major upgrade release. So I wouldn't take that as a reference.
We were all disappointed for the late MM release by Sony, but I don't think N will bring so many dramatic changes from M, as M brought from L.
Also, I don't think they have a flagship series replacement on their agenda until February, a it happened during MM preparation.
Let's just stay optimistic.
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After the time it took for Marshmallow I hope Sony can get it out by Christmas, there is no excuse anymore to not release an update when Google release previews themselves. This isn't ICS which was more or less a complete overhaul of Android.
This is a minor update in comparison to ICS, Marshmallow was minor but took half a year for Sony to roll out. Hope Sony can get 7.0 out by November, I expect perhaps one more update after that before support is ended, but by then I will probably get a new phone.
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No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
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LLabtoofer said HTC M8 and other Snapdragon 800/801 devices won't get 7.0 as Qualcomm will no longer support their drivers. I think it is likely Sony will bring features from the previews to the Z3, but it won't be the true 7.0, just the developer build - the same goes for other devices like the Nexus 5 and OnePlus One.