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X10 2.2 Update from Official Source

SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
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So Q2 2011 is the date..
Edit 1 week later
They have sent another mail about that mail (the one above) saying that:
"We would like to correct the statement that we have told you in the previous mail about Android 2.2 version. The information that has been given to you by SE Customer Service is not true We are sorry about the misinforming..
I guess Jeff's investigation worked out Cheers

already have 2.2 on mine waiting for next version of AOSP that TeamX10 are working on. I dont want another SE ROM on my phone unless i have to have one
Thanks for sharing that anyway, it will get many people excited!

aLPaSLaN07 said:
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011.
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What means it will be around q3 2012...
But that's great news, imo! I think they want to make amends for all the delays with 2.1.
Well... 2.1, then Dual-touch, then 2.2... Sounds like an almost apropriate "excuse-us" for me.

hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!

unknown13x said:
hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.

Tony_C said:
I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
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Yes. It is two years indeed.

So how much time do we have until EOF then?

Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.

im_iceman said:
Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.

correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.

We're not talking about warranty - SE have committed to support the X10 with software updates for 2 years.. so it would go "end of life" March 2012.

batman_112 said:
Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
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EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.

aLPaSLaN07 said:
SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
So Q2 2011 is the date..
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Given my limited Turkish, I think it reads something more along the lines of:
Ha! fools - do you honestly think you're going to get 2.2 in this lifetime. As an absolute best, products we release in 2011 may get a 2.2 upgrade, providing it is at least 3 or 4 steps behind the current Android release​
Like I say, my Turkish is pretty poor, but I think that's the gist of it...

skyleth said:
correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
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I think you have it reversed, Warranty is 1yr, support is 2 yrs.
"This Limited Warranty will last for a period of one (1)
year as from the original date of purchase of the Product"

unknown13x said:
EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.

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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997. All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson

MJ_QaT said:
Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks

I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.

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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
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Yep thought so
Missing Ericsson from the 90s
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12

batman_112 said:
Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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woah woah woah, calm down please, I have not mentioned ONE WORD about SE being late. All I'm saying is whether the info is correct. We (SE and I) have had times where the customer support are not well informed. We've seen MANY cases here since before the 2.1 update. I never said SE will abandon their phones either, but internal people (like me) would know when the EOL of each handset is, and they only last 1 year. 1 1/2 AT MOST. Aino got extended due to the new Classic edition release, but they're the only exception so far. So please don't start bashing on me, I was just suggesting and warn about the info, not to bash on SE.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
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The devs got 2.3 update since last weekend on the new handsets. SE skipped 2.2 and went straight from 2.1 update-1 to 2.3 on the new handsets (Our X10 will still receive the update-2 however, the update-1 on the new handsets was only for debugging) So MR is already wrong on their facts, and I'm not surprised since Eldar isn't the one who wrote it.

Google Partners with Sony Ericsson to guarantee timely Android updates

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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
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Source: Engadget.com
I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's

could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices

Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...

i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3

its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev

Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
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18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.

Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
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What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones

Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.

What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
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You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.

Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
Cheers

Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.

This sounds like a positive move to me.

To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..

Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).

compumasta said:
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
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Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.

This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.

Update On Gingerbread For HTC

Well looks like a roll out for the htc desire has began android 2.3.3 with sense 2.1
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186791
if the htc desire gets sense 2.1 it could be possible we can get it aswell

I believe Verizon has told HTC to no longer support our device. I've written 5 emails to HTC requesting information & have received the typical non answer of:
"...Currently, our developers have to work with Verizon to determine when and if a ROM upgrade will be available....."
Basically I assume this is how it went down:
HTC: hey Verizon! We have a gingerbread update that needs testing on the ADR6300(Dinc).
Verizon: If they want gingerbread tell them to sign a new contract & get an ADR6350(Dinc2).
I encourage all of you to email HTC & inform them that they cannot be sued by Apple for emulating their support system & ignoring the carriers request for bad support. We have little chance of changing Verizon's mind but HTC is our hardware manufacturer & they could continue to support us on their website via RUU.
For the negative Nancy's out there this very tactic worked for the Desire community. They were the squeaky wheel & guess what? They got grease on the way. Being vocal is the only reason they are now getting gingerbread. So save your disparaging comments for your low self esteem girlfriend.
Lastly, for the inevitable "root & u no need OTAz!!!"; yes you do. Things like kernel source are of the utmost importance & drivers for various hardware are closed source. Which means if you reverse engineer it; you can get sued. If you modify it; you can get sued.
Please feel free to take 5 minutes to politely spam their inbox with your displeasure, questions, or concerns here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/e-mail

poontab said:
I believe Verizon has told HTC to no longer support our device. I've written 5 emails to HTC requesting information & have received the typical non answer of:
"...Currently, our developers have to work with Verizon to determine when and if a ROM upgrade will be available....."
Basically I assume this is how it went down:
HTC: hey Verizon! We have a gingerbread update that needs testing on the ADR6300(Dinc).
Verizon: If they want gingerbread tell them to sign a new contract & get an ADR6350(Dinc2).
I encourage all of you to email HTC & inform them that they cannot be sued by Apple for emulating their support system & ignoring the carriers request for bad support. We have little chance of changing Verizon's mind but HTC is our hardware manufacturer & they could continue to support us on their website via RUU.
For the negative Nancy's out there this very tactic worked for the Desire community. They were the squeaky wheel & guess what? They got grease on the way. Being vocal is the only reason they are now getting gingerbread. So save your disparaging comments for your low self esteem girlfriend.
Lastly, for the inevitable "root & u no need OTAz!!!"; yes you do. Things like kernel source are of the utmost importance & drivers for various hardware are closed source. Which means if you reverse engineer it; you can get sued. If you modify it; you can get sued.
Please feel free to take 5 minutes to politely spam their inbox with your displeasure, questions, or concerns here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/e-mail
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Sent!
I'm confused though, I thought it was pretty much a done deal that we were getting a GB release??? Was that just an unsubstantiated rumor?

I think HTC had the intention of it but like I said I believe it's Verizon's doing. They're not above that at all.
Also HTC is pretty good about getting back to you in a couple of days. Please continue the dialog after reply with your ticket number.

Also it never hurts to hit them on social media:
http://facebook.com/HTC
http://twitter.com/htc

I just sent them an email as well.

badogg said:
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I'm confused though, I thought it was pretty much a done deal that we were getting a GB release??? Was that just an unsubstantiated rumor?
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Its not a rumor, we even had a GB leak specifically for our phone. Blame VZW :/
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^ pretty much. Desire, Evo, etc pretty much every version of our hardware is getting it.

Sent e mail as well, also mentioned bringing out the update on fb
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Remember though, outcry for the Desire didn't happen until AFTER HTC said they "couldn't do it.", and the EVO is simply way too popular to ignore.
Incredible users need some press on the issue, and we can't mention development in letters we write. "Send us gingerbread so we can hack into it plz" um, yeah OK. Lol
You guys should be sending letters to tech news outlets and stuff so it can be known. The more regular people that know, the more curiosity and subsequent demand will grow. You are pissing in the wind if you think letters to the companies are gonna help. Press is what's gonna be the catalyst for support in this issue, THEN your letters will have merit. Imagine the millions of users that get news updates on phones, computers, RSS, twitter, etc that suddenly realize that they CAN but wont get an update.

Actually HTC didn't come out & say it until they had been pestered by users. I agree on needing some press love. I'll hit the blogs.

Looking at the link in the OP, it doesn't look like those guys are getting any GB love yet either.

^ it has been confirmed by HTC. Basically we're the only one's with sister hardware still out in the rain.

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Based on that thread, their GB update seems to be as "confirmed" as ours. Basically just info from HTC reps, not any sort of official announcement. And there's nothing besides speculation that suggests that the update will be sense 2.1. Our GB update was supposed to be here by the end of Q2, now what are they saying?
I know this is coming off as negative, but I'm just trying to be realistic. After not getting our update and hearing nothing else about it, I'd be hesitant to believe anything but an official announcement from HTC, not emails/chat from their support staff.
The post on their Facebook isn't really too confidence inspiring.. Basically they're saying that they're working on an update, but have no idea when it'll be done or what it will include, when we were supposed to get GB last month? Come on HTC..

k_nivesout said:
Based on that thread, their GB update seems to be as "confirmed" as ours. Basically just info from HTC reps, not any sort of official announcement. And there's nothing besides speculation that suggests that the update will be sense 2.1. Our GB update was supposed to be here by the end of Q2, now what are they saying?
I know this is coming off as negative, but I'm just trying to be realistic. After not getting our update and hearing nothing else about it, I'd be hesitant to believe anything but an official announcement from HTC, not emails/chat from their support staff.
The post on their Facebook isn't really too confidence inspiring.. Basically they're saying that they're working on an update, but have no idea when it'll be done or what it will include, when we were supposed to get GB last month? Come on HTC..
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https://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/225857300777092
K there's a fairly blatant statement that came 3 days after they said no GB for Desire. That's about as concrete as it gets as far as statements on releases go.
Back to Dinc, the email I received in late April said sometime in quarter 2. Now the emails I receive say "we have to work with Verizon on when & if a ROM update is available."
There is your big difference & you're not coming off as negative or realistic; only uninformed.

poontab said:
https://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/225857300777092
K there's a fairly blatant statement that came 3 days after they said no GB for Desire. That's about as concrete as it gets as far as statements on releases go.
Back to Dinc, the email I received in late April said sometime in quarter 2. Now the emails I receive say "we have to work with Verizon on when & if a ROM update is available."
There is your big difference & you're not coming off as negative or realistic; only uninformed.
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I'm thinking that we might be barking up the wrong tree. Shouldn't we be pestering Verizon instead of HTC? It really sounds like they are the ones that are the road block here.
Anywho, I got the following response from HTC today about my email yesterday:
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC, badogg. We will gladly assist you with your inquiry regarding the possibility of a Gingerbread update for your HTC Incredible.
We understand that many owners of the HTC Incredible are anxiously awaiting the arrival of new system updates for this device. As for an ETA for the release of these updates, we do not have this available. Currently, we have no information regarding the Gingerbread update for the HTC Incredible.
With regards to Gingerbread specifically, we can confirm that Google and HTC have agreed to provide android operating system upgrades for all HTC devices for up to 18 months after the initial release date of the device, provided of course that the hardware is able to support it.
We wish we had more information to provide you on this topic. The best way to stay on top of any device updates is to follow us on one of our social network sites like Twitter or Facebook, or check on htc.com. Once we have any information on this update it will be posted on these sites first.
We deeply regret that we do not have more specific details to provide for you badogg, and we hope that this does not detract from your overall use and enjoyment of the HTC Incredible. We thank you for your continued patience while we work to enhance the android experience on this device for all android and HTC devotees. As always, we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have between 6am to 1am EDST, 7 days a week for your convenience, or by phone at 1-866-449-8358.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number .
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badogg said:
I'm thinking that we might be barking up the wrong tree. Shouldn't we be pestering Verizon instead of HTC? It really sounds like they are the ones that are the road block here.
Anywho, I got the following response from HTC today about my email yesterday:
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I see what your saying but I can't recall Verizon changing its mind on anything & they don't seem to cave to bad press whereas HTC does. The best I figure we can do is put pressure on HTC & they would in turn put pressure on Verizon.
Thanks for posting your reply. Interesting ... our hardware is overly capable of GB & 18 months from release for Dinc is this August ....

Just got this from twitter:
poontab: @HTC any news on gingerbread for incredible 1? All similar hardware is getting it Desire, Evo, etc. U haven't even addressed us in 3 months
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/poontab/status/96333115924029440
htc: @poontab Good question, keep following us here for HTC phone updates.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/htc/status/96359461014343680
Nothing... but at least he finally responded. I've been hitting them 3 time's a day every day since I started getting pissed.

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Was hoping for sooner, but still good news that it is coming. Thanks for the information.
Sent from my Turbo.

I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?

Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola

danger2u said:
Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola
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It actually does seem like a Motorola problem now that we've seen how quickly Verizon can get software updates out. I'm a little bit annoyed but after seeing how many bugs are in the current 5.0 update and how many user complaints there have been, I'm more than happy to wait for this 5.1 update if that's what it takes to get a proper working phone.

To the last two posters: the OP is only talking about 5.1 release, not the 5.0 release for us
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Came looking for an exclusive. Found news i read weeks ago and from a questionable source. Left dissatisfied.

joshm.1219 said:
I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?
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Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.

adrynalyne said:
Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.
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Thanks lol thought I was having some weird deja vu thing

I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.

krabman said:
I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.
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Those other sources merely parotted androidpit.
Bad case of blogger-itis.

No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...

krabman said:
No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...
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Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.

OP has one post. I wouldn't bet on anything in this thread.

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Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.

krabman said:
I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.
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Well again, that was back before 5.0 was really out, and history has shown inconsistencies, ala 4.0 >4.1.

I'm largely unconcerned and I'm not saying I think anything. A lot of times the blogs run with information that has no support externally and one simply reposts from another. In this case there is external support although as you point out it is not strong. I'm not advocating one way or the other simply saying it exists, not that its existence means that the information is correct. I myself haven't made that leap, not enough there for me to do anything other than not immediately dismiss it as utter crap which is what I would have done without it.

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ZE551ML and ZE550ML are currently being tested for Android M. It's not yet on the announcement board of zentalk but a moderator categorically replied to my thread in zentalk and confirmed that it's already starting the development stage. (see attached photo)
Link : http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=51072&extra=page=1&mobile=2

@ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks

I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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High expectations, high disappointment. Just like 5.1
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iancjc said:
I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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Don't wanna be too optimistic and rude at the same time. But isn't testing it on those devices implies plan to implement. Otherwise why test if there is no clear plan of development? Again am not being too optimistic just looking at all possible angles.
Just my two cents.

I was trying to analyze the message ARP_ASUS said, if they are testing it on ZE551ML and ZE550ML. Then definitely there is a source code available and optimize already for x86 device.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but u can't test something on a x86 device if you don't have a Android M source code specifically for x86 right?

Asus is not even capable of giving us 5.1. Forget about 6.0.
Just my humble opinion.
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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!

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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!
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Yep and am pretty sure it's gonna be wild and filled with rants and complaints for the next few days in zentalk once the first gen or pre Zenfone 2 subgroup people read this and starts to sink in their heads. Lol
Not a clear road map as posted. But hey something is still better than being blind as to where zf2 is heading right??

nc and all but we don't even know if they will ever release it, just like that 5.1

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ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks
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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.

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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.
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Thanks, Keep us posted if something comes up.

I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.

While I would fully expect Asus to provide an update to at least 5.1, or even 6.0, I believe in you get what you pay for. For a $300 phone, you get good bang for your buck, and I appreciate Asus having a rep stay active in the forum, Reddit, and ZenTalk.
There's nothing that says Asus has to provide this update, since it's not a Nexus device, and looking at models like Samsung LG, or Moto, it takes months to get their phones to what is or was the current iteration of Android.
I did however stick my faith in Asus for what I think is a good product, and this will be the determining factor as to if I ever purchase anything Asus again. I think a lot of people feel that way. We could have gone the Moto or even OPO route, but when went with Asus. It's up to them to keep us happy and coming back.

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I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.
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I saw it being sold on Amazon.co.uk, the ww version that was being shipped from Amazon UK, which is great if you have a problem and need to return it. Though I would suggest getting the US version if you are set on getting this phone, because it has more bands unlocked, which I will admit their bands are a huge plus on this phone. Keep in mind that the second sim only works on 2G voice/text and data is software blocked.

Hoping for fixing battery drain Android OS crap with 6.0
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To think about it i dont have so much hope in asus
But can you like flash a dev 6.0 rom or something like that from dev for zen

To be fair, Asus is still better than the likes of Oppo - many of their phones are still stuck on KitKat.