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Google Partners with Sony Ericsson to guarantee timely Android updates

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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
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Source: Engadget.com
I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's

could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices

Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...

i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3

its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev

Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
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18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.

Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
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What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones

Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.

What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
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You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.

Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
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Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.

This sounds like a positive move to me.

To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..

Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).

compumasta said:
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
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Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.

This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.

Moto G Android Lollipop confirmed for GPE

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So Android Lollipop is finally confirmed man!!!!!! Amazing!! Cant wait!!!!
Also confirmed n Motorola Forums!!! :good: :crying: :highfive:

Nice! I guess we can flash that on non-GPE?

eddydc1 said:
Nice! I guess we can flash that on non-GPE?
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Yes man you can! I did it last Saturday without any problem! here you have the link: with the tool to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706 , it takes only 3 min!
So happy that I did it! I cant wait to receive that "Update your system" notification.

titotito1983 said:
Yes man you can! I did it last Saturday without any problem! here you have the link: with the tool to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706 , it takes only 3 min!
So happy that I did it! I cant wait to receive that "Update your system" notification.
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Do you think that the GPE will get the update to android l a lot faster then the stock ones? Considering the stock roms are nearly pure android, do you think there will be a noticeable difference?
How many days do you think the GPE will save compared to the stock one?
How many days was it in the past? Or how many days is it *usually* for motorola devices or even other devices for that matter?

marcelcoder said:
Do you think that the GPE will get the update to android l a lot faster then the stock ones? Considering the stock roms are nearly pure android, do you think there will be a noticeable difference?
How many days do you think the GPE will save compared to the stock one?
How many days was it in the past? Or how many days is it *usually* for motorola devices or even other devices for that matter?
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I really don't know man. Pure logic says that GPE will get it faster because you will not depend on the carrier to release it, just Google. So once they push the button all the GPE devices will get it....
In another note, I feel that the GPE runs much MUCH fluid than the non-GPE.

titotito1983 said:
I really dont know man. Pure logic says that GPE will get it faster because you will not depend on the carrier to release it, just Google. So once they push the button all the GPE devices will get it....
In another note, I feel that the GPE runs much MUCH fluid than the non-GPE.
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Nope, the gpe is still developed by the manufacturer, but they must do it exactly by the book.

vlt96 said:
Nope, the gpe is still developed by the manufacturer, but they must do it exactly by the book.
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Yes I know, but I was refering to the carrier...so for example if you have Verizon, you have to wait until Verizon releases the update, not just Google and then Motorola. In the GPE, since it is unlocked you dont have to wait for any carrier to release it, so you are avoiding one step, hence I think is faster....

titotito1983 said:
Yes man you can! I did it last Saturday without any problem! here you have the link: with the tool to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706 , it takes only 3 min!
So happy that I did it! I cant wait to receive that "Update your system" notification.
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Hey man, i'm planning to flash GPE firmware but I want to know this: does GPE firmware have equalizer or Sound Effects app like the original moto firmware? please answer me ASAP!

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949

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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Great news, I had a really bad experience with my previous phone (Desire X) and updates. It got 4.1.2 3 months after release, but never saw another update after that from HTC. I think smartphones should be able to get updates from the OEM's for at least 2 years.
Most ironic fact was that I paid $300 for the Desire X, and $199 for the Moto G. Go figure...

Nope it hasn't...

Chipotleez said:
Great news, I had a really bad experience with my previous phone (Desire X) and updates. It got 4.1.2 3 months after release, but never saw another update after that from HTC. I think smartphones should be able to get updates from the OEMs for at least 2 years.
Most ironic fact was that I paid $300 for the Desire X, and $199 for the Moto G. Go figure...
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Yup, paid 200€ for the moto G (in Romania, Motorola has no power here), and almost 300€ for the galaxy s3 mini... Galaxy s3 mini got the 4.1.2 update!!! From 4.1.1... And moto G is on a freaking list by Google, considered equal for updates as the nexus 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 and the HTC one M8...
Not to mention my sister got the Moto E, the 150€ phone (here) with better support than the galaxy s5, which probably won't get lollipop this year, or even this winter... 600€ device, doesn't get software updates because Samsung is probably still stuck with their old TV update policy, which doesn't exist.

Whoop Whoop. such good news. Just got my Moto G GPE!

And soon Lollipop for GPE

Android 5.0 and L as OS options for G3 on LG SmartWorld: a hint on an early update?

I have posted this in reddit and wanted to share it here too. While I was browsing the LG SmartWorld site, I clicked the phone selection link on the right to choose the G3. After choosing the G3 and hitting OK, a dialog appears asking the operation system of the phone and there are options for Android 5.0 and Android L. I also checked this with other phones and these only appear in G3 models. Maybe a hint towards an early Lollipop update?

Now that's interesting. Hopefully it IS a sign we'll be getting it soon.

Interesting link i found
Came across this in a google search in regards to android l looks like early files for the new OS maybe just for the boot process so far.
h ttps://github.com/Sykopompos/Android-L-LG-D851

Why when i go to smartworld web it says my device not supported?? I have d855 32gb

D855 shows Android 4.4 and ANL, I think that one big update is coming

Android L is already being tested in Korea and Poland.

zbiecik said:
Android L is already being tested in Korea and Poland. Information from mate tester LG Poland
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If You haven't made it up and Your friend seriously work as a tester - delete your post. Sharing anything related on any portal is violation of NDA and it can end very bad

dont think we will see L before 2015 definitely not before december 14

Do not expect many things.we are talking about LG the worst company in the updates. I wish to be wrong but something tell me that we will only see android L with the next release of lg g4. Lg usually brings the updates 3 months after Samsung and htc . Htc which promised fast update to m8 it states a few days ago that it will give the android L 90 days after received the stable version from Google. That means that the fast plan from htc is about 4 months from now. Guess now LG which slowest than a turtle.we are talking about 7 to 8 months. Which will be very near to the release of next g4. So it will wait a few months more to release the new g4 with the new lolipop experience. I wish to be wrong but lg has a very bad history.

LG G4 will be released with 4.4.....LG in a nutshell

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Hope LG surprise us then!

Honestly, I don't believe in LG

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Lol that has to be a joke from them. They can't even get the carriers to release anything. So yeah 6 month isn't so unrealistic. Even for canadien android releases
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I have no faith in LG but if they update this phone to 5.0 it will sell more of these for them. So we might get lucky cause they are greedy.

I believe that it will take longer than 6 months to get out to carriers (At&t still is on 10d.) But it could be possible for the international versions.
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I have been saying for months we will all be surprised (not just LG, but all major OEM's) about how quick Android L will roll out to the flagship devices, it will be the fastest roll out so far!

Lennyuk said:
I have been saying for months we will all be surprised (not just LG, but all major OEM's) about how quick Android L will roll out to the flagship devices, it will be the fastest roll out so far!
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If all of these guys have not been working with the preview build code and getting all their ducks in a row, i would be SHOCKED. This is a new way for google to announce the OS and i think they did it to give OEMS time to get stuff ready for fast updates. Once final code drops, i wouldnt be surprised to see OEMS releasing for certifications from carriers within a month. At least HTC and samsung! lol But here is the thing i keep hoping for. Samsung used to be HORRIBLE with updates, then they figured it out and now are one of the fastest (HTC still has the crown). LG Could do the same. Especially with all the time they should have already had with the base code (not any MAJOR changes really even in this latest preview). Fingers crossed. As long as i have this phone long enough to actually see the update. My tmobile jump and a nexus 6 or note 4 are almost tempting me, but i love this phone!

[OFFICIAL] Android 6.0 Marshmallow Update Details

So, on Nvidias twitter about an hour ago, they replied that Android 6.0 Marshmallow was "possiby" coming to the Nvidia Shield Tablet.
I wouldn't say we should get our hopes up, but again this is a "possibly" straight from Nvidia's official Twitter page, so who knows!
Original post (About Android TV Shield)
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Nvidia Shield Tablet info (Found in replies to above tweet)
Original Tweet: https://twitter.com/nvidiashield/status/649031937076629504
So yeah, @NvidiaShield directly replied that we could "possibly " (note the smiley face haha) get 6.0. But who knows, after the recall and all I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia stopped caring about our Tablet.

I think it's a platform they're looking to grow, and the only thing stopping them from furthering the advancement would be a shield tablet 2. But if they know anything about gamers, we like a company that cares about our old hardware so it would be in their best interest to keep our hardware up to date. The same way that HTC is releasing Marshmallow for the m8. They don't have to do that and it would be understandable if they didn't.
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Android biggest problem everything is for 1 year wow the newest thing tralalala then complete silence over the thing...quickly falling into a garbage bag after

ou2mame said:
I think it's a platform they're looking to grow, and the only thing stopping them from furthering the advancement would be a shield tablet 2. But if they know anything about gamers, we like a company that cares about our old hardware so it would be in their best interest to keep our hardware up to date. The same way that HTC is releasing Marshmallow for the m8. They don't have to do that and it would be understandable if they didn't.
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Funny you say that Shield Tablet 2 announced today.

ou2mame said:
I think it's a platform they're looking to grow, and the only thing stopping them from furthering the advancement would be a shield tablet 2. But if they know anything about gamers, we like a company that cares about our old hardware so it would be in their best interest to keep our hardware up to date. The same way that HTC is releasing Marshmallow for the m8. They don't have to do that and it would be understandable if they didn't.
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Agreed, the portable was updated recently as well. I think as you said this is a long term play for Nvidia and as much as the battery issue was a really pain they will continue to support the tablet.
I am not sure if we will ever see it officially go back on sale, or if a version 2 will be released first...but either way we will see 6.0 sooner than later.

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Hey guys, chances are getting higher for 6.0! NVIDIA just anounced a New tablet called Shield K1. Its nearly the same as ours now with same Hardware. This means, new device=New version of Android (i hope)

Androidpolice are stating " It's currently running Android 5.1.1, but NVIDIA already plans to push Marshmallow to it (along with existing SHIELD Tablet units) by the end of the year. " regarding the new version of the shield..
Nice christmas present if they hit that deadline
And for once, a UK price that isn't a straight pound for dollar swap. £149 v $199

Have any details appeared since? It seems to all be attributed down to a single tweet.

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Have any details appeared since? It seems to all be attributed down to a single tweet.
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Marshmallow was guaranteed for the Shield Tablet 2. I believe before Christmas. The Shield Tablet 2 has identical hardware to our tablet aside from the stylus which means the software is more or less interchangeable so expect the upgrade to come roughly the same time for both tablets.

If it has identical hardware, does that mean [email protected] will be possible on our older shield tablets?
as that was something they said they would add to the newer tablet...

Weeks later and still no information from nvidia.
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Weeks later and still no information from nvidia.
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I tweeted at their official Nvidia Shield twitter account to ask for details on the Marshmallow update for the K1. They only said, "We're working on something! "
At least they're working on it. I just wish we had more details.

TheSuperSteve said:
I tweeted at their official Nvidia Shield twitter account to ask for details on the Marshmallow update for the K1. They only said, "We're working on something! "
At least they're working on it. I just wish we had more details.
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Damn, it's sounding like it's really not a priority.

It really isn't... More than likely they have another tablet coming out.

sabret00the said:
Weeks later and still no information from nvidia.
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https://twitter.com/nvidiashield/status/676878826236809216
Confirmed it's coming this month.

https://youtu.be/N7DlYc1l9aA
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So good.Hey man,Where are you from?

Europe

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Europe
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I'm from China.Nice to meet you.Android M for Shield tab,quite good nows.:laugh:

Is there a US release date yet?

I'm currently looking at an upgrade for my LG G3 (which died so now I'm using my old S4) and was looking at the OP3 when I stumbled upon this phone, which I'd never heard of. Overall, it sounds great but I can't seem to find an actual release date anywhere (which is concerning, as someone who waited far too long for the droid bionic back in the day and after months upon months of waiting, settled for a different phone). Does anyone even have an approximate release date for this in the US? If it's not sometime in the near future, I might just snag the OP3 and go about my day, but I'm hoping someone has heard something about it.
Thanks!

No there isn't and do we need a new thread for this question every week?

Honestly, that's my fault. I try not to revive old threads (since that usually has people's heads exploding) and had read the other thread with the same topic and thought it was from last month (rather than a few days ago).
Sorry about that!

If there's a release date, it will be probably be a sticky thread with plenty of comments.

So, I'm not sure if this is valid but I was comparing a few phones on phone arena and noticed that there is a date included there. Apparently, it says July 30th . . . Below is the link I used:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/ZTE-Axon-7,OnePlus-3,HTC-10/phones/10068,10017,9582
Here's the full info page:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Axon-7_id10068
No idea where they got this date (or if there's any truth to it) but figured I'd share it all the same.

Well Canadian website mobilesyrup reported that the phone will come out later in the year for Canada. If Canadian and US releases are linked would that mean Q3 or Q4 release? I hope not...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/05/26/ztes-axon-7-smartphone-will-launch-later-this-year/
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These companies need to get their crap together. I was going to go for an HTC 10 but due to AT&T not carrying it and the only other option being directly through them, I was opting for this, as it's cheaper outright.
Now they're flopping around with a release date for this. I need a new phone ASAP due to mine having issues. They're going to force me into an OP3.

mwake4goten said:
Well Canadian website mobilesyrup reported that the phone will come out later in the year for Canada. If Canadian and US releases are linked would that mean Q3 or Q4 release? I hope not...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/05/26/ztes-axon-7-smartphone-will-launch-later-this-year/
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This article is from May 26th. It's clearly not good information.
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These companies need to get their crap together. I was going to go for an HTC 10 but due to AT&T not carrying it and the only other option being directly through them, I was opting for this, as it's cheaper outright.
Now they're flopping around with a release date for this. I need a new phone ASAP due to mine having issues. They're going to force me into an OP3.
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Same here, I pre-ordered the HTC 10 and for some reason HTC cancelled my order. Now I want the Axon 7 but ZTE doesn't want my money. OP3 is getting closer and closer by the days...

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as both of you. Being on a 3 year old phone that was already dying when I originally switched from it, I kinda need a phone fast (especially since the camera on it has a cracked lense so I can't take pictures with it). Between that and the likelihood of the ZTE bootloader being locked (I know some people in here think that's not going to be the case and I hope not but if what I've read is correct in other post, ZTE keeps their phones pretty locked down. Probably even more likely with that Passport 2.0 system they'll be supporting), I'm starting to think this is not going to be worth the wait. If it comes out in July, I'd still ideally like to wait a while to read some quality reviews and see what happens in the development community before I jump onboard. When I consider that over buying the OP3, which is all ready to go, unlocked, and with an active developer community, it's kinda hard to justify waiting it out (especially if I have to potentially wait until the end of the year since no date has been confirmed . . . which SHOULD be the easiest thing a company can do. Provide a release date!).
Good luck, everyone! I hope you guys get the phones you want!

The only big issue I have with the OP3 is I keep hearing about LTE issues with AT&T, who is my provider.

Sammae7 said:
The only big issue I have with the OP3 is I keep hearing about LTE issues with AT&T, who is my provider.
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Hmm. That is a concern as I have AT&T as well . . . I was concerned about the Wi-Fi, based on what I've read . . . but the Nexus 6P seems like such a step back at this point and I don't want to wait for the Nexus "Marlin" to see if it will be a decent device (and for a decent price).
Man, such a great opportunity for ZTE to step in! Too bad they can't seem to pull it together!

Much in the same boat as well
Sitting on my old Nexus 4 and would like to pick up the Axon 7. But OP3 is calling my name if I don't hear anything about a release date for the Axon 7. Both of them have the needed band 12 for T-mobile and that is what I am looking for.

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The only big issue I have with the OP3 is I keep hearing about LTE issues with AT&T, who is my provider.
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WIith OP phones, you are pretty much doing beta testing for them for first 3-6 months. Both OP1 and OP2 had tons of bugs and nagging issues at launch. I owned them so I know.
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swehes said:
Sitting on my old Nexus 4 and would like to pick up the Axon 7. But OP3 is calling my name if I don't hear anything about a release date for the Axon 7. Both of them have the needed band 12 for T-mobile and that is what I am looking for.
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Band 12 means nothing unless you get T-mobile blessing to use it. I don't see OP doing the extra work for it. OP2 doesn't have it and I doubt OP3 does either. USA isn't their market.

max1001 said:
Band 12 means nothing unless you get T-mobile blessing to use it. I don't see OP doing the extra work for it. OP2 doesn't have it and I doubt OP3 does either. USA isn't their market.
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OP3 has Band 12 and even T-Mobile VoLTE.

jbrookley said:
Does anyone even have an approximate release date for this in the US? If it's not sometime in the near future, I might just snag the OP3 and go about my day, but I'm hoping someone has heard something about it. Thanks!
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I checked the ZTE USA website and it states the following:
Ion Gold - Starts Shipping 7/27
Quartz Gray - Starts Shipping 8/17
On this link here: https://www.zteusa.com/axon-7
Ion Gold:
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