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Curious as to when the EVO will get offcial 2.3 update ?

My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.

Zorachus said:
My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.

swaze said:
Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
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That is kind of what I think too. Then it makes me wonder, the EVO-2, should be out I am sure, on the one year anniversary of the EVO, so that would be in June, to compete with the iPhone5
But with HTC slower to bring out updates due to SENSE UI, will the EVO-2 be a "Gingerbread" dual core device, or hopefully a "Honeycomb" dual core phone ? What are the predictions ?

Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.

ctbenk said:
Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?

smarmytime said:
You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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Well we've known of it for months, and besides i never claimed to be very patient

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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Honeycomb will be shown off on tablets in just a few days, and I'd expect those tablets to be on store shelves in just a matter of weeks. My guess is that Honeycomb (or it's equivalent for phones) will follow the usual Android update schedule and will be released for phones in May. With the Nexus S just dropping I'd expect that the new OS is being developed on it, so HTC will probably be scrambling around May to get it working on their phones. The EVO 2 (if it even will exist) will probably be announced a few weeks before that so chances are that it will ship with 2.3 and get the newer update a few months/weeks later just like the original EVO.
As for 2.3 on the EVO. I wouldn't hold my breath. There's a decent shot of it coming but with all the new flagship phones that HTC now supports, it's probably a low priority for them. If it does come, I wouldn't be surprised if that it takes as long as March or more.

I was pretty surprised how fast the EVO officially got 2.2 it was like two months after the phone came out. So in theory can we expect 2.3 Gingerbread for the EVO in mid to late February ? I wouldn't be surprised if it does come out around then. Because around that time "Honeycomb" will soon be getting all the press and being released on the major Tablets in March they say.

Strictly theory and conjecture? I'd say late February. I know we're going to be one of the first to get GB, but I also know that Sprint likes to take its sweet ass time releasing updates. You have to remember that HTC releases the beta to the telecoms, and they beta test like crazy before release. Sprint just happens to take the longest usually.

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Nobody knows when it's coming out. We're neither psychics nor HTC employees. Your only safe bet is that it's not today, it's not tomorrow, and CyanogenMod 7 Nightlies will be out first.

Zorachus said:
My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Hell, maybe never being that CES is next week and the evo shift is on the horizon.

Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?

If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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Zorachus said:
Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
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No.
sand1303 said:
If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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No, but you wouldn't want it anyways. A rooted version would be out <48 hours afterwards, in which you could keep your root.

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No, but you wouldn't want it anyways.
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yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.

indagroove said:
yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.

I was actually in a corporate Sprint store a couple days ago and overheard two employees talking about the evos "update sometime next (this) month".

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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.
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Only if they alter the rom version info, which seems pointless to me.

Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Honeycomb is for tablets only...

my guess is..
we will know by end of feb.

Ice Cream Sandwich on EVO

Based on the new 18 month upgrade rule Google is putting in place it seems like EVO is guaranteed to get Ice Cream Sandwich. Great news!!
Sorry if this was posted already, but I glanced the top post in General and didn't see this. Delete if duplicate.
I saw it on the I/O stream but here is Engadget mentioning it as well:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/
More details at Thisismynext:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/

bparvin said:
Based on the new 18 month upgrade rule Google is putting in place it seems like EVO is guaranteed to get Ice Cream Sandwich. Great news!!
Sorry if this was posted already, but I glanced the top post in General and didn't see this. Delete if duplicate.
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Please post link to new rule.
It makes it easier to discuss the matter.
Edit: Thanks for the links.

Long as the hardware can handle it......

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Long as the hardware can handle it......
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That is the only sticking point I can think. Unless they add more details/restrictions about customized versions as well.
I can't see why the EVO shouldn't meet the requirements for ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) Unless they add some huge GPU related features that can't be shut off built directly into the OS.

This rule will only apply to devices that will launch from NOW going forward.

None of this 18 month rule stuff matters if you're already on AOSP. Our phone will get ICS if CM and others support it, guaranteed. The original motodroid has CM7... the EVO will live on!

Nice to see steps being taken - or attempting to do as such - in the right direction.

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also teams like Cyanogen Mod will port icecream to alot more devices then what google says will run it.

thegregbradley said:
None of this 18 month rule stuff matters if you're already on AOSP. Our phone will get ICS if CM and others support it, guaranteed. The original motodroid has CM7... the EVO will live on!
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also teams like Cyanogen Mod will port icecream to alot more devices then what google says will run it.
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I enjoy the AOSP roms from CyangonMod and others but official releases just make those ROMs that much better.

yeah.. good step in the right direction
but...
it is for new phones and moving forward.. evo is not new.
LOOPHOLE: as hardware permits.. this is a huge veto card (and who makes that call)... 512kb RAM maybe an issue.

brown14you said:
This rule will only apply to devices that will launch from NOW going forward.
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Did you read this or are you assuming? I haven't read that anywhere and didn't hear that during the live stream.

bparvin said:
Did you read this or are you assuming? I haven't read that anywhere and didn't hear that during the live stream.
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you are right.. have not seen that in black and white....
but... i would bet it is only new released phones.

Ice cream looks like it will finally include HW acceleration. Honeycomb tablets are probably all Tegra 2 powered because of software compatibility. I think that ice cream will be very similar. Google said ice cream is comming later this year (fall I think), and with the N1 probably falling outside of 18 months old at that point, we might not see first gen Snapdragon/adreno support at all in AOSP/Android.
My guess is that Google will release a dumbed down version for low end phones and that'll be the version that CM ports over to older devices.
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Pretty sure Evo will get Ice Cream, they said no hardware requirements for it. And Evo is Sprints flagship phone still, pretty sure they are going to keep updating it until everyone can get a new phone.

Pretty sure Evo will get Ice Cream, they said no hardware requirements for it. And Evo is Sprints flagship phone still, pretty sure they are going to keep updating it until everyone can get a new phone.
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Where did they say there's no hardware requirements? In fact, they said updates will come if the hardware permits. Thus hinting that there will be at least soft requirements.
BTW, by the time ice cream drops, the EVO will look like the G1.
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evo 3D and kingdom will be out by then.... and that would push evo off sprints top dog chair. before ice cream will be released in Q4.
I love my evo.. but i think 2.3 is as for officially it will go.

This will certainly kick ass, Sprint will most likely put the new OS onto the Evo because it is still one of the best phones on the market despite it being released for almost a year

You guys aren't reading....
The groups first move is to promise that that new Android devices from these partners will receive updates for 18 months after launch, pending hardware support, which is a great step towards addressing the problem of orphan devices.
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This just mad my day.
But yes, the evo may not get it, as it "technically" is an older device, so you'll have to wait on a port.

Google Partners with Sony Ericsson to guarantee timely Android updates

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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
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I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's

could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices

Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...

i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3

its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev

Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
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18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.

Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
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What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones

Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.

What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
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You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.

Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
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Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.

This sounds like a positive move to me.

To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..

Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).

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To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
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Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.

This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.

Hints at ICS being released in April :(

I was just looking at Engadget, and I saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
Here is what the article it says:
"We've come across an internal document from Bell Mobility that's bound to raise the hopes of a few good Canadians. Yes folks, we're talking Ice Cream Sandwich. The carrier to the north estimates that it'll have Android 4.0 ready for the Sensation in February, which is to be followed by the Raider's update in March -- this handset may be more familiar to AT&T customers as the Vivid. Pulling up the rear, users of the Galaxy S II are to expect the upgrade in April, and while the Optimus LTE is also mentioned, there's no specific time frame for that one. Certainly estimated release dates don't always come to fruition, but at least we know what Bell's aiming for, anyway."
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I really hope this estimate is wrong, what do you think?

Kp1. Maybe P = April
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I think that is the date the Galaxy SII will get ICS on that carrier. Remember that a lot of carriers delay updates to their phones so they can be "certified". Also, if we already have a pretty much working build of ICS (give or take a few force closes and battery life), how can it take them so long to polish it?

At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.

Bell is very, very slow at releasing official firmware updates. As far as I know the SGSII still comes with their carrier branded 2.3.3
If they're releasing in April and that happens to be at the same time as ICS goes global, I'd be very, very, VERY surprised. Just a possibility.

I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.

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I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I think I am going to get the next nexus phone regardless of when we get ICS for the GS2.

to be honest i hope they dont rush it , it isnt just building ics for their hardware it needs intensive testing as well
the sgs2 has shipped over 10 million units now , releasing a firmware with bugs in it could do more harm then good and id rather wait and get a rock solid ics for our phones and for the devs to have a solid base to tweak from
lets face it they got the firmware the phone shipped with pretty dam good and i hope too see a nice stable ics release from them too
i use my phone to much to be using beta software and ive had enough nokias in my time and had enough of unstable buggy firmware and waiting for patches to come to fix the bugs
i think april sounds about right for a genuine samsung firmware that has been fully tested for stabillity and compatabillity with apps and extras

Does not sound like an xda developer member...just sayin'
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jonny68 said:
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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Here we go again!

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Here we go again!
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They do it because they're mean. But I guess they don't like law suits either. Mean.
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This really means nothing for international GS2's. More than likely Samsung's ICS will release in late December/early January and those on XDA will have it looong before Bell in Canada.

Bell is an North America carrier which does not have any Apple vs. Samsung court cases.
Yet, rest of the world do. That's why I can certainly say that Ice Cream Sandwich for SGS II & Galaxy Tabs will be the fastest delivery of an Android distribution (from Google release to End users) Samsung ever made.

That date is for carrier branded phones.
For international phones it would be much sooner.
I'm expecting mid Jan

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how can it take them so long to polish it?
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Dude... Have you ever tried to polish ice cream? Took me ages and it still wasnt that shiney...
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Hope you guys that live in Europe get the update Asap. Here in Latin America (Brazil), we will receive the update maybe on Q3 2012. But, i really hope that all of us can get CM9 before April.

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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Its actually samsung's fault they haven't got it working yet. Samsung hasn't released kernel sources yet. I think the main obstacle right now for cm9 is the RIL is unstable. Codeworkx said once they can stabilize that they'd probably have a beta soon after. Kernel sources would give the cm9 team what they need to get RIL stable. So when we get that or a leak with stable RIL we should get cm9. I totally believe the cm team will get to the finish line long before Samsung. The other devices already getting alphas and betas of cm9 must just be easier to get working. I've read the galaxy sII is "unique" to code for because of the hardware.

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At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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There's still a lot of work to be done by Sammy.
They can't release something they don't have - makes sense, doesn't it?
As for the second part of your statement: They did. KP1, nuff said.

Definitely for that carrier.
KP1 is already released and all the major functions work. So another month max it will take to release the stable version.
And I didn't pay 600 US$ to Devs, but Samsung, so it's their responsibility to release it at time, hence I don't give a damn what Devs are doing.
Still I think Samsung should take a little bit of extra time, if it's needed, it's far better to release a Stable version than releasing a non stable one in a hurry. Also Google said that they would like the manufacturers to use 4.0.3 as the base version, so I don't know if Samsung will give us 4.0.1 like KP1 or directly 4.0.3.
Google also wants 4.0.3 as the base version of Ice Cream Sandwich to be used by Android handset manufacturers.
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Was hoping for sooner, but still good news that it is coming. Thanks for the information.
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I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?

Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola

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Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola
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It actually does seem like a Motorola problem now that we've seen how quickly Verizon can get software updates out. I'm a little bit annoyed but after seeing how many bugs are in the current 5.0 update and how many user complaints there have been, I'm more than happy to wait for this 5.1 update if that's what it takes to get a proper working phone.

To the last two posters: the OP is only talking about 5.1 release, not the 5.0 release for us
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Came looking for an exclusive. Found news i read weeks ago and from a questionable source. Left dissatisfied.

joshm.1219 said:
I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?
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Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.

adrynalyne said:
Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.
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Thanks lol thought I was having some weird deja vu thing

I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.

krabman said:
I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.
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Those other sources merely parotted androidpit.
Bad case of blogger-itis.

No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...

krabman said:
No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...
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Show me?
Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.

OP has one post. I wouldn't bet on anything in this thread.

adrynalyne said:
Show me?
Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.

krabman said:
I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.
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Well again, that was back before 5.0 was really out, and history has shown inconsistencies, ala 4.0 >4.1.

I'm largely unconcerned and I'm not saying I think anything. A lot of times the blogs run with information that has no support externally and one simply reposts from another. In this case there is external support although as you point out it is not strong. I'm not advocating one way or the other simply saying it exists, not that its existence means that the information is correct. I myself haven't made that leap, not enough there for me to do anything other than not immediately dismiss it as utter crap which is what I would have done without it.