Google has now set the update support to at least 18 month.
and ice cream (4.0) will be released in autuum.
So we should get ice cream directly when it will be released from google am i right?
No waiting for HTC version anymore, one version for all (phones, tablets, ...)
Gingerbread just came out for the DHD and we're already getting threads about this.
Even if our phones get it, it will still take some time for HTC to put the Sense UI on it.
That's what I'm talking about..GB rom..what next??? Ice cream rom???? lol
I dont think we(DHD Users) will get Ice Cream this year if we will get.
I'll have two scoops please
It will likely start after the "agreement" between the manufacturers and Google. That is, phones made before the date will not be under such "agreement".
if i understood it google correctly the new ice cream rom (prop. Android 4) will be availible for every phone as soon as google has released it.
that would be a no sense version of course but who cares..
I'm happy with Gingerbread, but just wondering- anyone know if Ice Cream will have minimum hardware specs, such as dual core processors only? Getting very confused with all these different version now!
Also I heard they were going to combine the different releases, so we don't have one for phones and one for touch pads, can anyone confirm this?
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We may not get it officially, but I am sure we will get it from the developer community ie cyanogenmod .
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I'm happy with Gingerbread, but just wondering- anyone know if Ice Cream will have minimum hardware specs, such as dual core processors only? Getting very confused with all these different version now!
Also I heard they were going to combine the different releases, so we don't have one for phones and one for touch pads, can anyone confirm this?
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That's the way I read it in a previous press release. The reason being that there is now multiple versions all under the "Gingerbread" and "Honeycomb" monikers.The plan is to unify under the "Ice Cream Sandwich" (I think it will become ICS at least on here)
As for min specs, at present I haven't seen any though through official channels (Handset manufacturers) they have put limits on min specs for what they will release for each device. The Dev's on here on the other hand have had other ideas, and Devices which should be locked to Eclair have Froyo and even experimental (Slower than treacle) Gingerbread roms.
As others have said, the dev's on here will find a ways and a means to it. I guarantee there will be an ICS rom for the DHD, will it be useable? That is the unknown.
And hoqpus, Google will release it to the Handset manufacturers at the same time, and they release it to the users. each one has its own Apps it "forces" on its users (Except the Nexus line of phones) HTC will want to redo Sense (3.5 / 4.0?) for these phones, if the current line up can take it. Hey sense 3.0 supposedly requires a dual core chip. This could be the reason that we won't see an offical DHD ICS rom arrive.
The DHD will get the ics update when the xda finished the porting ... The xda is the best way
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The DHD will get the ics update when the xda finished the porting ... The xda is the best way
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why are you posting in a 7 month old thread?
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I wish google would hint towards the future for us early adopters..
Forgetabout a new update lets see source!
Google promised updates for 18 months on new devices. http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/10/google-promises-android-devices-updates-18-months/
First tablet to market with Android 3.0
First tablet with Android 3.1
Google has announced 4.0 Ice cream.
Hopefully we'll be the first with 4.0 too
As far as the OP I don't think the question should be about Google updating the xoom really. Google makes honeycomb so i think the real question has to be whether they will update honeycomb again before ice cream comes out. As far as I can tell once the next version of android OS comes out the previous version seems to stop being upgraded (once froyo came eclair stopped moving, froyo stopped updating with gingerbread, etc). Will honeycomb stop with ice cream? judging by the past, probably.
As far as the future of early adopters, I think the best thing to hope for is that the xoom (tegra 2) will be sufficient to run ice cream and be compatible enough that it will appear OTA directly from Google. As far the xoom being the first device to get it, I highly doubt it. Odds are a new "vanilla" device be it phone or tablet will debut the OS (also with whatever developments have been made in mobile processors since tegra2 under the hood). Yes the naked truth is that it is a fast fast moving market.
The percs offered to early xoom owners from google have been: first to get honeycomb 3.1 and guaranteed invitation/acceptance to Google music. Beyond this I don't think Google has anymore special treatment up the sleeves. And I don't immagine they are that stoked about being subtly expected to do damage control for Motorola's 4g problems.
If there does happen to be a HC 3.2 upgrade before ice cream then perhaps xoom owners may be first to get it but at any rate i immagine ice cream ends up on the xoom regardles, either through xda or Google or of course both.
And I think that is the future for xoom owners.
Edit: and just to clarify, I dont think Google exactly promised that they would update devices for 18 months, but rather that their partners have promised to update their devices to run whatever compatible android versions are released for those devices for 18 months. I.e no being stuck on froyo forever even though your phone can run gingerbread. What we would want to hear iis tthat Google promises to release compatible updates for your device for 18 months, but this isnt what they said. Plus that would pivot around device release times which isn't possible. If a new device comes at the end of an OS cycle I doubt Google will carry version for another year because one phone hopped on at the last minute. Btw sorry to be so cynical guys, just calling it as i see it
No update no sd
It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
HC 3.1 is the final version, next version is smoerrebroed 4.0.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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It will most likely not be updated again and will not receive sd card support anymore.
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This is absolute FUD. You don't know that this is true, nor have there been any indications from Google/Moto that this is the case. Stop scaremongering.
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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My guess is that the xoom will definitely get ice cream sandwich given that its a pure google device. The nexus s just came out and its specs are worse than the xoom and nexus will definitely get ice cream sandwich. Now whether the other tablets get the upgrade is up to the manufacturer.
Hardware specs are not the limiting factor to getting android upgrades, its manfacturers modding android to fit their custom software like compiz or motoblur.
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US Xooms will probably get updates to ICS I guess... didn't they have a prototype of ICS at Google I/O on a Xoom?
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ice cream is for cellphones and tablets ( I think this is gonna be for 7" tablets and lower) and honeycomb is a OS optimized for tablets, so I think that we will see more honeycomb updates
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No, they said it would be merging of the Tablet and Phone - so it should be any sized screen (although that probably just ranges from phone (can't think of lowest size, but lets say for the sake of argument 3" -> tablet 10.1"
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Ice Cream Sandwich will be the latest version of Android upon release and will apply to everything (phone, tablet, tv). They are not going to continue Honeycomb as some kind of separate "large screen tablet" branch after ics as you seem to be implying.
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I concur - that's how I read it all too
Also I imagine there may be a couple of bugfixes along the way but nothing major till ICS (4.0?)
so maybe 3.1.1, 3.1.2, probably not a 3.2 - only if there's a new feature they want to push out that is fairly big...
However - if google are responsible for the SD Card slot - then 3.2 may address that issue - else it'd probably just be a 3.1.1 update judging on how they have done updating numbering on the past...
I think Google had Moto add SD to be ready for Ice cream. Its my idea that that was the plan maybe im crazy but who knows
Hi All,
I'm eyeing the Nexus S as a potential purchase in the coming days and simply wish to know if it is at all known at this time if the device will be receiving future Android Operating System updates post 2.3.4, e.g (next mobile major Android release). Will Google continue to support the device?
That is the entire point of owning a nexus device... so yes. The N1 is STILL receiving updates so you can expect the S to be receiving them for a few more years
If there's any new firmware that google will release, the Nexus S is for sure to receive it first.
Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
amedika said:
Anyone have an idea when we might see another update?
I've done my fair share of googling but seem to get mixed messages so what do you guys think?
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can you please site the sites you google that states a nexus phone wont get updates.
as for your answer read the posts above your last post
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It'll get ice cream sandwich for sure
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
I doubt ice cream is designed solely for dual core phones. The Nexus line will get it for sure. The Nexus phones will probably start up to date for at least 2 years from their release.
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And ice cream will come out this fall out winter
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I heard from a rather unreliable source that ice cream sandwich will most likely only run on dual core devices
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That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
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That's like saying Quad core CPUs came out. Let's discontinue support for Dual Cores! No. ICS will be backwards compatible. Dual Core (or quad cores at that point) will be able to take full advantage of the OS.
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guys, calm down. I did say from a rather unreliable source. I dont buy it either.
ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
ICS will run on most phones.. it has been said that it will run on both high end phones and low end ones.
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ICS might habe limitations to small screen size devices due to it's hw/sw-buttonless nature, but I don't think it'll be excluding those 800mhz+ phones released within the last 6 months. If it's exclusively for dual core, how many ICS capable devices we'd have right now, 2?
I mean "forcing" ppl to replace their not even 1y old phones for the biggest Android update ever would be a bad idea. I can only talk for myself but this might be drawing me away from Android OS (Bad comparison inc, even the iphone 3g is rumored to get iOS 5). Hope the smartphone OS market will be picking up speed again, Google seems to be slacking to me.
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Slacking? They came out and said after Froyo they would slow down on their releases...
The first 5 release were all bug fixes... now it's actual OS enhancements.
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Wth are you talking about? all ice cream sandwich does/is going to do is close the gap between gingerbread and honeycomb and maybe add software only buttons.
The Nexus S WILL GET IT and for that matter...so may the N1....
I'm pretty positive N1 will get ICS, and even most of the future updates unless it comes to hardware limitation.
@OP nexus phones are the most future proof when it comes to software updating, even with a nexus one you can't go wrong. Don't hesitate to get the nexus S btw, one hellava phone.
They better not make us wait 3+ months to get the update like they did for N1 users and GB. For me, ICS better be a pretty significant upgrade, otherwise I'll be going away from the Android platform. Really not a fan of the design and presentation.
if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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if doesn't, i swear, i will buy a Nokia 1660.
it will be incredibly pointless if the android is supposed to "end with the fragmentation" doesn't come to previous nexus devices.
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Which fragmentation are they talking about? I guess it's just the differences between tablet (3.1) and smartphones (2.x.x) but smart move getting everyone hyped about ICS.
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That's been said about every version since Froyo
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I was just reading a news article on pulse about the testing of a quad core xoom, with ice cream sandwich
Which led me to wonder, will the original xoom get 4.0 sometime after the release of such a device?
Not trying to ask for a definitive answer
I just wonder what the general consensus of peoples opinions on the xoom getting android 4.0
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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I remember I saw it somewhere that Motorola is to support software upgrade for 18 months from the org Xoom release date. If that's truth, we shall see ICS on the 1st generation Xoom.
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Yes, but they said IF hardware is compatible, so they can always say it isn't.
In positive it will be, offical or otherwise. ICS is supposed to have the buttons from android 1.x and 2.x moved into a 3.x screen solution, and we do by all indicatioms have the horsepower to run it. If you think that ICS is to unify phones and tablets, I don't foresee android becoming a quad core only affair partially on phones, ut also on tablets. And we have great devs along with unlockable bootloaders, so my money says we are golden one way or another.
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"One OS that runs everywhere." So ICS will probBly come to the Xoom.
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ı believe xoom will be one of the firsts to get the ICS update.. all versions have different release dates but averagely we can say it has been released in the beginning of the march 2011.. so it has to be updateable with every new android OS which will be announced until the september of 2012..
about the hardware; there still are single cored notebooks which run windows 7 around.. i cant think of an android system that xoom can not hande with its dual core, 1gb of ram and nvidia graphic card..
Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
I imagine it will be second to see ICS
like nexus s got gingerbread first, nexus one got it second
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Don't get me wrong, i agree that Ice Cream Sandwich should work on current Xoom. I just don't want to get my hopes too high.
If the rumor about Xoom 2 being the next GED are true then i don't see Google pushing the Ice Scream to current Xooms on release day (compatible or not). Then i will probably just buy the next Xoom from US (hoping it will have a global 3G radio this time).
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The whole idea behind ICS is to get EVERY android device on the same OS for consistancy... This being a GED device means that there is no way it won't get it. I'm sure its not going to work on the G1, but you know what I'm sayin.
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Update on Ice Cream Sandwich
by HTC on Friday, October 21, 2011 at 10:14pm
Since Google unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich earlier this week, HTC has been looking closely at the new OS's features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. We're a recognized industry leader in providing fast and consistent upgrades to our Android devices (see what Engadget had to say about our upgrades: http://engt.co/qMb9nQ), and Ice Cream Sandwich will be no different.
Upgrades require a careful balance of hardware and software to ensure the best possible performance and usability, so please stay tuned as we assess our product portfolio. Our goal is to upgrade as many HTC devices as possible and we'll be sharing details on specific devices and timing in the coming weeks!
Thanks!
i am very much lookin fwd to ICS for my wildfire
Wildfire didn't get official Gingerbread, so I can't see how on earth you people are linking HTC's posts on ICS, and, "waiting/hoping" for official ICS, no less.
I agree with 3xeno.
When they said they'll upgrade as many of their devices, the meant recent
devices. So what, HTC will upgrade the G1 to ICS? No go. And plus, they declared the Wildfire as end-of-life. Nullifying the chance.
I am not trying to say I don't want official ICS; I do want it very much, but there is a slim chance of it happening.
any unofficial rom's available???
At this point, I am more worried about UN-official ICS, official be damned. (Again, I am repeating, Wildfire didn't get official Gingerbread, so I honestly don't know what makes us think even an iota that it will get official ICS)
Remember, the Gingerbread SDK Port DID run on the Wildfire (Jacob's GingerFire Alpha ROM), which is not the case with ICS, and arco has pretty much confirmed any attempts to have an ICS SDK port up and running are going to be futile, because the ICS SDK doesn't support the old ARMv6 CPU, period.
I completely agree with you 3xeno. The HTC Wildfire lacks GPU and the processor is too slow. So there won't be an Official ICS and probably not even an Unofficial port of ICS AOSP.
Well, even the Nexus One won't get official ICS, as Google says its hardware is too old.
Update for all - Wildfire Ice Cream Sandwich
Sorry for cross posting ... i was reading up on the same question, can wildfire work for ICS. Well good news ... someone has already started - unofficially. Its still being worked upon but seems there is hope.
Check the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355189
Officially Ice Cream Sandwich will never be on Wildfire. Its simply not viable for business. No wonder HTC didnt upgrade to Gingerbread.
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
I'd like to see iPhone OS (iPOS) stop ripping off android's features.
That was my troll of the day.
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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intruda119 said:
Should just wait. Theres no point of speculating about ice scream update. If there is/will be any info it would be posted.
If your having lag with sms update your device or try handcent out.
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I know theres not point in speculating about Ice Cream Sandwich since were unsure of what it will bring to the table.
My question was WHAT would YOU like it to improve on or what features you'd like it to bring, you know, CHANGES....
I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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****, that's a LONG way away, I hope for the love of god it's WORTH the wait.
For the amount of time it's taken it should come out perfect or near perfect at the very least...
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I've seen several reports of ICS coming in 2nd qtr 2012 -((( )
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It was from Samsung Italy if I remember right. But I would say mid-end January maximum.
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imo note is designed for ics. samsung was aiming to release it with ics in early 2012 but too much interest from the market made them release earlier. but google (and maybe samsung) wants nexus chrome to be the first ics phone on the market so they cant release it with ics. so i think gingerbread roms for note are just for waste time until the google and samsung decides nexus did fine. and as i believe samsung aimed ics for the note i think they are not spending much time on gingerbread roms for note. so when ics is realeased i am expecting everything to be improved.
Whilst ICS will undoubtedly bring all sorts of improvements to the Note, until such time that a decent ecosystem of Honeycomb/ICS apps is built up (and remember, there aren't a great deal of Honeycomb specific tablet apps either), the vast majority of apps are still targeting 2.x iterations (Gingerbread, Froyo etc) of Android, which means that 2.x apps are likely to be de rigueur for some time yet.
I'm as keen as the next guy to get ICS onto my Android devices (Note, GTab, Transformer etc), but without application support it really doesn't matter too much.
Enjoy the Note for what it is today, not what it may be tomorrow!
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I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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I am interested in knowing how the hardware (including touch) buttons will fit into the ICS UI. AFAIK, ICS has Back-Home-Recent-etc buttons on the 'always visible' taskbar within the screen. So unless there is a modified interface for phones there will be some redundancy.
Anyone knows how this will be handled?
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As far as I know (at least that's what I saw on Desire Android Development for ICS ROMs) that 'always visible' bar can be "disabled", at least the keys on it. Some more experienced user may correct me tho
The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
ICS for Galaxy Note
I heard ICS for Note will come on 2nd quarter. Still waiting for the release.
Also Galaxy SIII is coming with ICS4. is there any major firmware difference in Note and SIII? Why we cant use the same for Note and release the official release?
And I thought that we already have a sticky for these kind of discussions!!
ICS will be released soon and it will give few new functionality to the note..
some are as following:-
1 it will upgrade the proc by 9 cores (Intel Hardcore neon x9)
2 it will search for appropriate forums for you and automatically post in the right forums
SUCH AS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490986
Please post all ICS speculation info in the above mentioned thread !!
Meanwhile
Calling the dark forces : ORIGINAL_GANJAMAN where art thou???????
Was the ICS update for the S2 a wipe upgrade?
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kanej2006 said:
I, like many others am eagerly awating the Ice Cream Sandwich release.
Do we have any solid release dates as well as improvements/changes?
Apart from performance/battery improvements what other improvements/changes will Ice Cream have for us?
All I'm looking for is an even smoother & faster experience, as quck as windows phone 7.5 and if they can fix the lag when sms messaging that would be great.
Any other thoughts on changes/improvements YOU would like to see?
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Samsung never announces release dates in advance. We didn't get a real advance release date for S2, we won't have it for this device.
We don't know what to expect... Right now all leaks have Superbrick kernels, I suspect that's one of the things slowing down ICS for every device but the S2. Samsung tried to add some performance tweaks and FAILED MISERABLY and they're trying to figure out what the **** they broke now.
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The on-screen-buttons will not be visible on devices with hardware buttons/touch buttons. I guess they can easily be enabled, but i do not see the point of doing that.
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Nope - they're an utter waste of screen space on devices with hardware keys.
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