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480 for the phone + 83 border charges = 1 week of a cool phone that slipped out of my hand Dell does have an out of warranty service for 250 bucks, not sure if i should use it.
Wow, sad story:-\
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480 for the phone + 83 border charges = 1 week of a cool phone that slipped out of my hand Dell does have an out of warranty service for 250 bucks, not sure if i should use it.
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Wow, what happened? Just a straight soft drop, or did you sort of wave your arm and it slipped out for an extended flight? Onto what surface?
I've dropped mine in the house a couple of times (mostly onto carpet, but at least once onto tile) with no damage, thankfully.
I have not heard of anyone doing screen replacements on the DVP yet.
I'd probably pay the $250. You certainly can't use it as is, and you're going to be hard pressed to buy another smartphone for that. Or, you could always check eBay I suppose.
raremage said:
Wow, what happened? Just a straight soft drop, or did you sort of wave your arm and it slipped out for an extended flight? Onto what surface?
I've dropped mine in the house a couple of times (mostly onto carpet, but at least once onto tile) with no damage, thankfully.
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I walked up to my car, went to take my coat off so i grabbed the dvp out of my pocket and as i did it slipped out of my hand hit the plastic body kit just below the door frame and then hit the ground. from the kit to the ground is 6 inches. I didn't throw it, or intentionally drop it, it literally just slipped out of my hand.
And looking in to this I've been doing a little research on gorilla glass. Check these out. Ohh and btw we should all note that Gorilla glass is made by Corning, not some two bit company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLXaC...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcGie...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTX79...feature=relmfu
I think Dell and I are going to have a bit of a chat on monday!
..ain't nothing gorrila about that lol... I'm for sure keeping my phone in my otter case.
slight22 said:
I walked up to my car, went to take my coat off so i grabbed the dvp out of my pocket and as i did it slipped out of my hand hit the plastic body kit just below the door frame and then hit the ground. from the kit to the ground is 6 inches. I didn't throw it, or intentionally drop it, it literally just slipped out of my hand.
And looking in to this I've been doing a little research on gorilla glass. Check these out. Ohh and btw we should all note that Gorilla glass is made by Corning, not some two bit company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLXaC...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcGie...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTX79...feature=relmfu
I think Dell and I are going to have a bit of a chat on monday!
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Shame about the phone...
MO3iusONE said:
..ain't nothing gorrila about that lol... I'm for sure keeping my phone in my otter case.
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Same. I have had quite a few drops with no damage in my case.
slight22 said:
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480 for the phone + 83 border charges = 1 week of a cool phone that slipped out of my hand Dell does have an out of warranty service for 250 bucks, not sure if i should use it.
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Square Trade's warranty is better and cheaper. If your new device is within 90 days of purchase, they'll cover it. They usually have 20-30% off coupon flowing around.
so much for the gorilla glass
I'd say that was a defective unit, gorilla glass wouldn't do that from such a short distance.
I've seen a video on youtube where a guy tests the gorilla glass on the Galaxy S and it took a drop from his shoulder ~6 feet to do that.
I'm fully aware the construction is different but the damage shouldn't have been that severe.
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I'd say that was a defective unit, gorilla glass wouldn't do that from such a short distance.
I've seen a video on youtube where a guy tests the gorilla glass on the Galaxy S and it took a drop from his shoulder ~6 feet to do that.
I'm fully aware the construction is different but the damage shouldn't have been that severe.
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Gorilla glass is good at not being scratched too easily, but it isn't designed to withstand lots of sudden impact like dropping. This is why you see iPhones (which I'm sure has it) shattered to hell regularly.
This is the video I was trying to share and at 1:08 into the video they show gorilla glass bouncing (literally) though it does land flat and not on a corner, so not sure how much that makes a difference.
Corning - Gorilla Glass Werbespot
Plus today i was at work and had a few minutes to kill so with the plastic butt of a exacto blade i tapped a chunk of glass that wasn't broken and it shattered with a lot less force than some of the things they do in the video.
SO i'm not exactly 100% convinced it is gorilla glass on the DVP.
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Gorilla glass is good at not being scratched too easily, but it isn't designed to withstand lots of sudden impact like dropping. This is why you see iPhones (which I'm sure has it) shattered to hell regularly.
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The video I saw says otherwise...
frazell said:
Gorilla glass is good at not being scratched too easily, but it isn't designed to withstand lots of sudden impact like dropping. This is why you see iPhones (which I'm sure has it) shattered to hell regularly.
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Actually the iPhone does not have Gorilla Glass. It's a reinforced and (supposedely) stronger material, but it is not the Corning product.
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The video I saw says otherwise...
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Doesn't really matter now does it. Slights phone is shattered. Mine too shattered from a fall from about mid thigh.
Dell would not replace it. TMO insurance would not cover it...well it would but only if I got a HD7 in return. So...broken is broken...regardless of what the video shows....
Lets say I am now incredibly careful when moving my phone...more than ever before.....
@alodar1
Do you still have pictures of the phone when it shattered? I've contacted Corning (ask for the gorilla glass group) and i've sent them the information and pictures of my phone and the story of what happened. If you want to contact them and do the same i'm asked them to investigate dell for falsely admitting to using a product that is possibly not what they say it is. If you can contact them today your complaint will go in with mine.
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@alodar1
Do you still have pictures of the phone when it shattered? I've contacted Corning (ask for the gorilla glass group) and i've sent them the information and pictures of my phone and the story of what happened. If you want to contact them and do the same i'm asked them to investigate dell for falsely admitting to using a product that is possibly not what they say it is. If you can contact them today your complaint will go in with mine.
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Here's my pic.....not sure I want to follow up...its been months. But feel free to use my pic if you wish, and if contacted I will tell the story.
Ohh i thought it was recently cause you only have 30 days i think. eitherway. If you could i'd still suggest sending them the photo, maybe the glass isn't. But if you can afford a replacement out of dell and get it under warrant I also got a ottercase out of them for making me wait during paperwork and shipping process.
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Ohh i thought it was recently cause you only have 30 days i think. eitherway. If you could i'd still suggest sending them the photo, maybe the glass isn't. But if you can afford a replacement out of dell and get it under warrant I also got a ottercase out of them for making me wait during paperwork and shipping process.
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I ordered my Dell in November, recieved it on Dec 21. It broke on Jan 4th. I ordered a new one on the 4th and recieved it at 8am on the 5th.
I then contacted Dell with pictures and stories by both phone and email. I recieved from them a screenshot of the post on the community site about replcing the Streak display...which basically said.....sorry... After 2 more phone calls...I gave up...it was a lost cause. Since I could afford the new phone, I didn't worry about it.
But...like it said...that was 4+ months ago. Any communication I do with either will be shut down because of time and the story will be lost. The value now is in hte historical evidence of the glass. Feel free to use the pic if it helps.
I'm so mad at DELL. This happened on the 7th and now almost a month later and they still can't figure out how to get a phone to me. It's so patherit it's almost laughable.
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Hi all!
I just called Dell yesterday regarding the broken screen on my Streak 5. I got called back today from India - and the guy there told me it would cost me 309 pounds (i guess British pounds? I'm located in Norway, but i bought my Streak in the US).
I called back to Dell Mobility today and asked again (i read here somewhere that talking to someone else could be helpful, and you might just get a replacement). The lady there told me that because Dell didn't have an out-of-warranty repair option before, they sometimes just replaced the broken units. That all changed, and they can now offer repair options.
I don't want to pay 309 GBP to replace the screen, does anyone know of any other alternatives? (Other than the obvious; buy a new phone)
I found this: http://www.dellstreakrepairs.co.uk/repairs.html Has anyone tried this?
I know you can buy screens on eBay for just over £100 if you are feeling competent to do the job yourself.
Awesome! Thank you! I just bought a screen from here
I've replaced a couple of screens on mobile phones before, so i'll manage.. Now i only have to get an otterbox to prevent this from happening again!
for that much, might as well get a new streak.
That auction makes no mention of the gorilla glass, is yours ok?
I have heard a lot of people broke their screens... thing is I drop mine from about 4 feet right into the bare ground. I thought for sure it would be broken. But to my surprise it was find on scratch on the back on of the phone and that's it.
Not I guess it must be the way it drops more the force and the height it drops at.
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p00kienrayray said:
for that much, might as well get a new streak.
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New screen................$115
Otterbox + shipping......$35.9
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Total...................$150,9
New streak.............$399.99
Otterbox + shipping......$35.9
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Total..................$435,89
I don't see how that's much cheaper.. And, they don't ship the streak to Norway from dell.com - i actually paid $1000 more for my streak, if you include the price for the plane tickets.. ;-)
Troute said:
That auction makes no mention of the gorilla glass, is yours ok?
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Gorilla glass is not in included in the auction, no. Mine is perfectly fine.. Actually, I'm using a plastic screen protector on top of the gorilla glass, and in the end it's the LCD that breaks.. :-/
yasir_jan87 said:
I have heard a lot of people broke their screens... thing is I drop mine from about 4 feet right into the bare ground. I thought for sure it would be broken. But to my surprise it was find on scratch on the back on of the phone and that's it.
Not I guess it must be the way it drops more the force and the height it drops at.
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Mine dropped from 2 feet - from my nightstand and onto the floor. I have to say that I've dropped it several times before, and sometimes from higher up too - but i guess i just hit the sweet spot the last time around.. :-(
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Gorilla glass is not in included in the auction, no. Mine is perfectly fine..
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I'm sure that I read somewhere that the LCD is bonded to the Gorilla glass. Are you sure that you will be able to replace the LCD but retain your original Gorilla glass?
p00kienrayray said:
for that much, might as well get a new streak.
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Oh! Sorry for being a complete douche! I thought you meant the price for that new screen.. Yes, for 309 pounds ($494), i could just as well buy a new streak! That's what i told that guy who called from Dell - but i don't think he cared much.
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I'm sure that I read somewhere that the LCD is bonded to the Gorilla glass. Are you sure that you will be able to replace the LCD but retain your original Gorilla glass?
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Oh? I didn't know that.. I'll sure try! Guess i can just post back when i get it and find out.. ;-) Should be about a month till i get it, shipping from Asia is stupid slow..
Has anyone tried www.dellstreakrepairs.co.uk for screen replacements?
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Has anyone tried www.dellstreakrepairs.co.uk for screen replacements?
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I'm guessing: very few, as of yet. The counter on the bottom of the site said ~79 when i saw the site two days ago. According to this post on the dell forums, the site launched close to the 13th of January.
My Streak fell off from about 1m, completely killed the whole glass (display/touchscreen 100% working, glass totally broken).
Dell GER said they can't repair it, I would have to buy a new one.
If you sell a device you should be able to repair it (non-warrenty). Selling an expensive device like the Streak and saying you can't repair a broken screen is really, really sad for such a big company like Dell.
I sold it on ebay these days.
But I miss the Dell. Perfect screen size, perfect form factor. Nice UI.
So I bought a new one.
Now of course I wanna make it as safe as possible.
With the iPhone 4 I read that if you use the bumper it's almost impossible to break the screen if it fells to the floor cause the bumper stands out on the sides which is a protection for the display/screen.
So first I will buy a screen protector but I don't think that alone would help much. Now is there something like a bumper or a silicon case which can help protecting the screen from getting broken?
Thx.
zwuncki said:
Dell GER said they can't repair it, I would have to buy a new one.
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Hmm, i guess i would check the laws in germany.. In norway, i'm pretty sure they have to - and i guess that's the case for USA to, since they told me they used to just replace the units (i guess if the customers complained too much).
zwuncki said:
I sold it on ebay these days.
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Okay, forget it!
zwuncki said:
With the iPhone 4 I read that if you use the bumper it's almost impossible to break the screen if it fells to the floor cause the bumper stands out on the sides which is a protection for the display/screen.
So first I will buy a screen protector but I don't think that alone would help much. Now is there something like a bumper or a silicon case which can help protecting the screen from getting broken?
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Like an Otterbox? It adds a lot more bulk than the iPhone 4 "bumper", but i don't see how it's possible to make a bumper for the streak.. I mean, not like the iPhone bumper at least.
No I don't want a bumper for the Streak.
I just wanted to say that some cases with no display protection still protect the display somehow because of the way they are constructed.
I wonder if a simple silicon case would protect the display somehow because it does stand out on the display's side a bit as well (as the bumper on the iPhone does).
I want a case which is as slim/thin as possible but does protect the display somehow if the device fells on the floor.
I also wonder if there's any screen protector which is solid/robust enough to protect the screen not only from scratches but from getting broken.
I know Exim and Brandos are good but are they good enough to prevent the screen from getting broken?
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I'm guessing: very few, as of yet. The counter on the bottom of the site said ~79 when i saw the site two days ago. According to this post on the dell forums, the site launched close to the 13th of January.
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Dell refused to fix my Streak with a broken screen, so I sent it to the above (www.dellstreakrepairs.co.uk). I would recommend the service if you are in my position, I was only without my phone for about 48 hours, door to door. Phil is a really friendly and helpful guy.
Just to update the thread: I just received my replacement screen yesterday, and i replaced it as soon as i could! Now could finally put my old G1 back in the drawer and use my Streak again!
The auction said nothing about gorilla glass, but the screen sure had some kind of glass covering it, and after i accidentally pressed the sharpest end of my screwdriver into the screen (don't ask), i'm pretty sure it's gorilla glass. It didn't even leave a mark.. but it punctured the screen protector i'm using..
I'm happy, and my streak is happy!
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And, as you can see on the picture, i ripped the touchscreen controller off my old screen.. honest accident.. :-/ the LCD was broken anyways!
I was actually able to tear the old gorilla glass off the LCD and have a look underneath.. they didn't use "extremely strong adhesive", but there was some kind of semi-liquid between the glass and the LCD, so i guess it's not worth taking apart just to have a look underneath..
wow thats cool, how hard was the process?
my glass is broken, the LCD is OK though. just has small crack on the bottom left by the home button...
fventura03 said:
wow thats cool, how hard was the process?
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Well, don't do it if you don't really have to - and don't do it if you think you may break it even more!
Opening the streak is documented in detail on ifixit, but for some reason they stop before actually removing the LCD and glass from the rest of the chassis. I found this thread over at modaco, look at the timelapse-videos and note what he says:
- There are some things missing from the teardown such as that the circuit board is glued in one end and the lcd is attached with 5 small clips.
- It was also a bit tricky to release the circuit board from the plastic clips that kept it tight to the frame
- The cover where the capacitive buttons are should be opened from bottom-up as this is less likely to destroy the ribbon beneath.
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When i got to the end of the ifixit teardown, i removed the 5 small clips, and i had to use a lot of time to get the LCD and glass out of the chassis. There is some tape on one side that's best to try to remove, and it's hard to get the LCD out. I guess that's why i removed the glass too..
Oh, and if someone wants to see images of the screen and glass: here, here and here.
matheprat said:
Dell refused to fix my Streak with a broken screen, so I sent it to the above www.dellstreakrepairs.co.uk. I would recommend the service if you are in my position, I was only without my phone for about 48 hours, door to door. Phil is a really friendly and helpful guy.
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I didnt realise who they were but their address was very familar to me lol they also are listed as iPhone Repairs & Spares LTD link). And yes I can vouch for them also, my dealings were for iphone screens.
best to have their addy listed in a sticky about repairs as they are trustworthy and reliable.
How much did they charge to repair your lcd screen?
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So here I am, it just happened to me, the back cover of my Z2 self cracked ! I left it on a shelf, inside it's pouch (Adore June case), and when I took it a few minutes later, the back was all cracked.
The phone didn't fell, nio shock at all, nothing. Temperature was ambiant, about 20°c, without any big variations.
So I'd say, for a piece a of technology I bought exactly 555 € 2 month ago, it is just unbelievable, unacceptable !
It was my first Sony phone, and it will be the very last.
Other than that, I was really satisfied with it.....until it decides to harm itself !
Now the good part of the story is, when I contacted the seller, Purnima Digital, they oriented me to their warranty service, who reacted very well and fast. I was about to send them the phone, for free, for an expertise, but when I called them, they advised me to wait, because they already had hundreds of Z2 with the same issue, and for now Sony hadn't accepted to repair under warranty !!!!
They told me they were negotiating with Sony, with the help of a consumers association, to make Sony accept their production deffective issues.
So voilà my story with Sony. I will keep you informed about the outcome, hopefully Sony will take their responsibility.
As soon as I will have my Z2 repaired, first thing I will sell it. And never again I will hear about Xperia phones !
I have a Z2 Tablet, which for now is very well and doesn't seem to want to Crack it self,.....
I have a IPhone 5s for the work, and i will stick to it now. no matter what we think about Apple vs Android, at least I will not have these problems with the 5s.
Good luck with yours !
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I think you had bad luck my friend,my Z2 is without any gaps and any other problems so only bad luck.
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I'm perfectly happy with my Z2 that I bought right after it was released in my country in May. I have had no issues with it whatsoever and it's still without a scratch even without a case. That being said, if you have accidentally left your phone in direct sunlight it could cause the backplate to crack due to heat. If that is not the case then you've been really unlucky and for that I empathize with you. Good luck with your phone and whatever you choose to do with it if/when you get it back.
In that case here is the next question..what kind of glass is the back + the front one? It would be nice if they start making dragontrail glass for the back at least... :/ Ive heard that many Z Z1 Z2 users suffer that problem.Im quite affraid for mine too :/
Now people will start to understand why anti shatter film was important.
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Now people will start to understand why anti shatter film was important.
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Yep ; FYI, i had put on the back the NILKIN plastic film provided when you purchase the Tempered glass pack for the front panel....i was sure the back didn't need a tempered glass as well, and i was confident the plastic one would be OK, knowing the phone will be in a case...
Well now i know that it was not sufficent at all.
It was surely bad luck for me with this unit, even if there are many other users in the same position, but anyway i advise you all to put a tempered glass protection on the back as well.
The anti shatter film was better than any tempered glass protection.
Due to it's malleability impacts get softened.
Replacing the back is pretty cheap <$20 and easy though. Good thing it's not the front...Cost me 100 to buy a replacement LCD.
My screen self cracked yesterday.
After about 30 minutes I had an rma filed with a label on the way, hopefully the techs can see this wasn't an issue of "accidental damage " instead a fault in the design.
Hoping it's fixed and sent back!
kylecummins said:
My screen self cracked yesterday.
After about 30 minutes I had an rma filed with a label on the way, hopefully the techs can see this wasn't an issue of "accidental damage " instead a fault in the design.
Hoping it's fixed and sent back!
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My screen cracked itself, too - Sony Germany refused the warranty!
I hope they will get this sorted, soon! It's unacceptable!!
My Z2 has faulty back cover also. It's not cracked, but is not glued properly so the edge near the USB port kinda pops out. I can press and it sticks back but then it pops out again after a while. I doubt it's waterproof. The phone is less than one month old.
Miroslav.Cvejic said:
My Z2 has faulty back cover also. It's not cracked, but is not glued properly so the edge near the USB port kinda pops out. I can press and it sticks back but then it pops out again after a while. I doubt it's waterproof. The phone is less than one month old.
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Warranty.
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Mine prev. Z2 was aslo same fault as op , after 2 weeks of use and no drops no keys in pocket,no pushing nothing,the back cover cracked from the upside to the bottom,but here in bulgaria my retailer changed the phone after 2weeks of pushing from my side under the phone and sony support here is alfuw , it is deffect from the phone bro , go and insist for changing not repairing, its from their f**** deffect batches
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This is that kind of phone that needs a case 100% if you want it to be protected and safe for a longer period of time. ( I am from that kind of persons that are using the phone naked (its a damn Z series..u took the phone for its classy look too,but here i can't risk anymore :/ )) Screen protectors from both sides wont save it too.Ive read alot and..too much ppl complaining from cracked Z2s.Too sad that Sony didn't put a Dragontrail/Corning Gorilla..front and back glass.
The back glass on mine self-cracked. It has been in a case since an hour after I received the phone. It sits most of the day on my desk at work, or on the kitchen bench at home. Last week I discovered a single crack across the back panel.
I took it to the Telstra shop and they said Sony will not accept warranty claims for physical damage. I am going to follow up with Sony as this sounds ridiculous. The phone is not fit for purpose. None of the smartphones nor PDAs I have had (going back 14 years now) have ever suffered any damage or cracks.
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Replacing the back is pretty cheap <$20 and easy though. Good thing it's not the front...Cost me 100 to buy a replacement LCD.
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'Cept that the $20 replacement back cover does not include the NFC that is originally attached to the back.
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'Cept that the $20 replacement back cover does not include the NFC that is originally attached to the back.
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it doesn't??? OMG that sucks!!! even an original Sony one?
Had my Z2 self crack also the other day... used it and it was fine, checked back half an hour later and the screen was shattered. The shatter pattern is very similar to the pics posted at the beginning of this thread except mine is on the digitizer. It's obviously not from an impact/drop (I know this because I didn't drop it and the chassis is unmarked) but more so because of the pattern of the crack, no bullseye or spiderweb. Even more so because the phone wasn't moved during the time when it cracked....
Needless to say I was extremely annoyed, luckily I had the in box screen protector on so it didn't leave shards of glass all over the place. Just need to decide what to get next, does seem like this is an issue with only a few Z2's, my gf and sister have z2's which theyve dropped god knows how many times and their glass is unmarked, mine on the other hand has never been dropped. Anyway not sure whether to just wait for the Z3 instead of getting another Z2 (don't think I could live without a waterproof phone so that eliminates pretty much everything apart from Sony)
I am from Croatia. My first Z2 was foulty too. It was heating quickly, back glass cracked, wather demaged microfon and wather was all around camera. At first after 5 days I sent it service repair refused to change the phone claiming that this was physical damage. Then I asked for explanation and yelled on them and then they called me after 3 weeks to tell me that they are going to give me new one after long consultation with Sony in Europe.
With this new Z2 I don't have any problems and no quick heating.
On sunday, I pre ordered a 128gb s6 edge on tmobile's website, it arrived on tuesday, and as soon as I turned it on I noticed dead pixels and also i noticed under direct sunlight that the screen had scratches everywhere, i paid almost one thousand dollars for this and I found that unacceptable, so I called TMobile and they said I had to return the phone, wait until they refunded my money and then I could order another one OR I could buy another one and pay for it and return this one. So I just went ahead and placed another order and they overnighted a new phone to me. The phone arrived today, and it also has dead pixels or something black under the display (very noticebale) and also has a really scratched screen. The phone is nice, it works fine most of the time, but my problem is not with the software, it is with the lack of quality control Samsung is showing with this release.
I decided to return both phones, and i will be sticking with my iphone 6 until Samsung gets their act together, I dont want to throw Samsung under the but for a flagship phone, this issues should be non-existent. My advice to anyone that has ordered a s6 edge, is to check your screen for any dead pixels, and to check your phone;s screen under direct sunlight and see if you find any scratches.
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Don't be so sure that it's Samsung. Having this kind of issue twice in a row is a more likely sign of mishandling during delivery than an actual quality control issue.
I'd consider trying to see if I could get the device shipped to my carrier's local store for pickup, as delivery companies tend to be a bit more careful when shipping things to businesses than to consumers.
Same exact thing with my s6 edge 32gb. Small scratches allike over the screen.
My new one came today but I didn't open it yet to check.
Wow !! After that I will prefer to buy at the store after the April 10 !
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Poetique said:
Don't be so sure that it's Samsung. Having this kind of issue twice in a row is a more likely sign of mishandling during delivery than an actual quality control issue.
I'd consider trying to see if I could get the device shipped to my carrier's local store for pickup, as delivery companies tend to be a bit more careful when shipping things to businesses than to consumers.
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I would find it virtually impossible for the delivery company to scratch the screen. Each phone should have a screen cover installed at the factory. The dirt under the glass or dead pixels with 2 units delivered to the same person is also disturbing.
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Oh wow! Mine is all scratched up as well =( Right when I took it out of the box I noticed a pretty substantial scratch on the display. Then when I looked more closely, in more revealing lighting, I saw that I had light scratches all over the entire display. I am NOT happy with this. I will be getting a regular S6 for review when I can. If some of you are seeing the same things that I am, then statistically speaking, this is a pretty wide-spread issue. If you and I are seeing these scratches, it means that others are as well. I will keep a close eye on this.
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I would find it virtually impossible for the delivery company to scratch the screen. Each phone should have a screen cover installed at the factory. The dirt under the glass or dead pixels with 2 units delivered to the same person is also disturbing.
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You'd only find it virtually impossible if you've never been inside of a UPS or FedEx shipping facility (probably the USPS too, but I havn't actually been to the inner portions of one of those). I actually have never received a FedEx package to my area that wasn't beat up to some degree.
When I say that packages are literally occasionally tossed several YARDS across a room, I'm not kidding. And if whoever is supposed to catch them misses, well... what goes up eventually comes down lol.
The use of screen/devices covers only has one real effect, and that's preventing EXCESSIVE dust. Obviously, dust is dust, and you can't just eliminate it. It'll do a bit to stop scratches, but if a bit of fine debris that just so happens to get trapped under the dust cover it can still lead to scratches if the device gets shaken about in the box. And of course it does nothing to protect against impact damage, which is one potential cause of dead pixels.
I want to see what happens when other carriers start shipping. On that note, what courier is responsible for T-Mobile orders?
Edit: I'm also going to assume that everyone around here is aware of the fact that Gorilla Glass is visible to the naked eye if you have sharp eyesight, and that the "scratches" probably aren't scratches if they're uniform and follow some sort of pattern (you'd be surprised how many people thought they had scratched devices in the early days of Gorilla Glass lol).
Any pictures from any of you?
I just checked my screen. Zero scratches. Scared me for a second.
i expect these devices are assembled in vacuumed containers, in a similar fashion to hard drives, as such dust/particles are a non issue and it isnt possible to get dust under one of the plastic covers unless they are tampered with down the line - again this would just be my expectation but i would be surprised if this assessment wasnt accurate.
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i expect these devices are assembled in vacuumed containers, in a similar fashion to hard drives, as such dust/particles are a non issue and it isnt possible to get dust under one of the plastic covers unless they are tampered with down the line - again this would just be my expectation but i would be surprised if this assessment wasnt accurate.
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You expect alot from mass manufacturing/assembly lol.
The kind of operation you're talking about would be more likely to be found when dealing with either small-scale manufacturing or manufacturing of devices that never touch human hands before reaching the consumer. Neither case applies to Samsung devices.
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Oh wow! Mine is all scratched up as well =( Right when I took it out of the box I noticed a pretty substantial scratch on the display. Then when I looked more closely, in more revealing lighting, I saw that I had light scratches all over the entire display. I am NOT happy with this. I will be getting a regular S6 for review when I can. If some of you are seeing the same things that I am, then statistically speaking, this is a pretty wide-spread issue. If you and I are seeing these scratches, it means that others are as well. I will keep a close eye on this.
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Oh no Both S6 Edges I have received both have the scratched screens. This is bad.
while thats true, it is a proceedure in place for hard drives, they literally will not work if there is a single speck of dust on the platter - if anything at all interferes with the read-head it will scratch the platter and bam dead hard drive.
it is entirely possible they dont use vacuum chambers for assembling phones however, I will grant you that lol
just try to clean the screen !
i thought i scratched my NoteEdge too but after i clean the screen, the scratches are gone !
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just try to clean the screen !
i thought i scratched my NoteEdge too but after i clean the screen, the scratches are gone !
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Doesn't work.
There is no distinct pattern . They go in every which direction. I haven't seen this before and trust me when I say, I have reviewed A LOT of phones. It's strange to see gorilla glass 4 scratching this way. I have had my Note 4 for many months and it looks fantastic. I can see a few hairline scratches but nothing like what I already see on this less than a day old S6 Edge. At this point, I really can't pin down the cause. However, this is not made up. When I was at MWC I saw many, many models and didn't see any scratches on the displays. You bet once this device is more widely released that I will be exchanging mine!
So for those with scratched screens... how have you tried to go about cleaning them? And do the T-Mobile units come with a dust cover or a screen protector? If it's the latter, you might definitely want to try cleaning them as you could just be seeing small bits of adhesive.
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There is no distinct pattern . They go in every which direction. I haven't seen this before and trust me when I say, I have reviewed A LOT of phones. It's strange to see gorilla glass 4 scratching this way. I have had my Note 4 for many months and it looks fantastic. I can see a few hairline scratches but nothing like what I already see on this less than a day old S6 Edge. At this point, I really can't pin down the cause. However, this is not made up. When I was at MWC I saw many, many models and didn't see any scratches on the displays. You bet once this device is more widely released that I will be exchanging mine!
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Do you have black or white?
Scratches are scratches...
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So for those with scratched screens... how have you tried to go about cleaning them? And do the T-Mobile units come with a dust cover or a screen protector? If it's the latter, you might definitely want to try cleaning them as you could just be seeing small bits of adhesive.
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There was the standard plastic dust protector. All looked perfect as I pulled it out of that sleeve. Immediately I looked at the display and saw a pretty deep scratch. I thought it was adhesive and I rubbed at it. It didn't go away. Then I could feel it with my fingernail. Next I looked at the entire display in the light and I saw hairline scratches all over the place. Something is definitely going on here.
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Do you have black or white?
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Mine is black but I can't see that mattering much, unless one particular factory dealt with our models and they were only black...
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There was the standard plastic dust protector. All looked perfect as I pulled it out of that sleeve. Immediately I looked at the display and saw a pretty deep scratch. I thought it was adhesive and I rubbed at it. It didn't go away. Then I could feel it with my fingernail. Next I looked at the entire display in the light and I saw hairline scratches all over the place. Something is definitely going on here.
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That's very odd, and does sound like the sort of thing that would happen when there's a combination of an issue with fine debris getting trapped under the dust cover and the device being shaken about during shipping as it's unlikely that such a thing would pass any QA inspections.
The only unusual thing is that you said there was a DEEP scratch, and fine debris wouldn't cause that. Larger debris could, but that would indicate someone just being careless while packaging the device.
Phone fell about 2 feet getting out of car, which left a long curved vertical crack even with the stock bumper on. Had it for one week, just have the regular warranty. Is my only option to return it for repair, or can I somehow get it replaced?
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Phone fell about 2 feet getting out of car, which left a long curved vertical crack even with the stock bumper on. Had it for one week, just have the regular warranty. Is my only option to return it for repair, or can I somehow get it replaced?
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You could always purchase Moto Care or Square Trade.
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You could always purchase Moto Care or Square Trade.
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Moto Care. Then file a claim next week.
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Phone fell about 2 feet getting out of car, which left a long curved vertical crack even with the stock bumper on. Had it for one week, just have the regular warranty. Is my only option to return it for repair, or can I somehow get it replaced?
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Assuming you purchased it with a credit card, check with your card company, first. Many have 90-day accidental damage coverage automatically applied to your purchases.
Thanks all for your replies. I bought the Moto Care and already put in a claim. They told me it should go through for full replacement, just needed to wait for the extended warranty to show in the warranty department's system. It didn't show as purchased in My Stuff for a few hours, but it does now so hope to get the approval soon.
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Now i get it !!!!!
Ok, now i understand.
There is no video of drop test or any other durability tests done on the Moto X Style on YouTube or anywhere.
I requested a few top YouTube review channels and they also have not replied.
F*** Motorola, making paper knives, lol.
This post has made me purchase Moto care for mine too. Glad you seem to be getting everything sorted out.
I've practically thrown mine three times. I've got two small dings on the bottom corners. It all comes down to luck. Sometimes you have it and sometimes you don't.
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This post has made me purchase Moto care for mine too. Glad you seem to be getting everything sorted out.
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Smart move and hope you don't need it.
Finally got the replacement last week (Monday 10/12) but Motorola really messed up/lost the original claim (won't go into the gory details) which killed ~10 days with no action whatever, but then after escalating to the stateside support tier was quickly given a code to order a brand new phone through Motomaker which I did on 9/30 with expected del'y on 10/16, so luckily it arrived a few days early but the whole thing was frustrating and took over 3 weeks. Returned the damaged unlocked rooted phone to TX with a prepaid label they emailed me, which I'd returned to stock with the tool provided here (many thanks, worked great!) plus replacing the unlocked logo, which was received back with no issues.
Had an Incipio Octane case on hand when the replacement came, which I think gives much better protection than the stock bumper does, and would also use a screen protector if they didn't all apparently suck so far, so am waiting for one that sounds decent. Incidentally, you can change the Motomaker configuration of the replacement when ordering with the code, even add wood/leather if you didn't have it originally (I didn't) and just pay the $25, but I just went with a different back color which you can't see anyway with the case. Was always careful with my phones and never had one break from minor falls, but maybe the larger size/weight makes this one more vulnerable, so now I'm paranoid of dropping it which will probably make me more likely to!
Having had Gorilla glass 3 and 4 on phones....I think Gorilla glass 3 (which we have on the Pure) breaks easier than 4 in drops, but doesn't scratch as easily as 4 does. I have dropped and cracked a 3 screen but never scratched one.
Whereas I have never broken a 4 screen but it sure did get a scratch within the first week of ownership on S6 Edge.
I wonder how "shatter proof" the new Droid Turbo 2 screen will really be??
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Having had Gorilla glass 3 and 4 on phones....I think Gorilla glass 3 (which we have on the Pure) breaks easier than 4 in drops, but doesn't scratch as easily as 4 does. I have dropped and cracked a 3 screen but never scratched one.
Whereas I have never broken a 4 screen but it sure did get a scratch within the first week of ownership on S6 Edge.
I wonder how "shatter proof" the new Droid Turbo 2 screen will really be??
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That's good to know, thanks. I was a bit envy of the Nexus 6p having GG4 but since I'm more worried about scratches than me shattering it maybe it's a good thing the MXPE has GG3. It reminds me of the long-heated sapphire vs. mineral crystal debate regarding wristwatches: Scratch-proof vs. shatter-proof.
I bought the extended warranty for $19.99 but I don't think I'm gonna break my screen so I skipped Moto Care. I have an Octane case on it so it has pretty good grip. Perhaps I should keep my phone on a holster or in my pocket all the time and use an earpiece with all calls just to be on the safe side?
Same 2 ft drop - refrain if you can
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I think they need to change the name to *****-Ass Glass.
I tell you, if the new Turbo 2 actually has glass that cannot be shattered (yah right) then I believe all phones will move in that direction. Unless they scratch easily! Of course the insurance companies that make a fortune on broken screens may object! Tough noogies Square Trade, and Assurion!
Today I bobbled my 12-day-old replacement for the first cracked-screen phone that began this thread, and it fell farther than the first time (maybe 3.5 vs 2.5 feet), hitting first on the top right corner then bouncing up while twisting mostly onto its front before landing fairly squarely face down on the concrete garage floor. Still has no screen protector yet, so I picked it up expecting the worst but can't find a mark or scratch anywhere on it after removing the Incipio Octane case. Whether just a lucky fall or it would've broken without the full protective case (was using stock bumper the 1st time), I can't say but think it likely made enough difference. It noticeably bounced a couple inches which didn't happen with the bumper although it was a lesser distance, but I believe the denser more-rubberized case material is designed to do that.
I do feel that this phone's size makes it more prone to dropping, not that I didn't occasionally drop my Nexus 4 (w/Diztronic case) but it was so much easier to grip or quickly tuck into any ole pocket such that there were fewer opportunities. Thus far I'm habitually handling the new phone like the smaller N4, but now must train myself to be more careful at least in certain situations.
This just reminded me of a major flaw in motos design. There is no frame around the screen to protect it. The glass is edge to edge, so the only protection would be a big bulky case; which is a no go for me.
This happened to my moto x 2014, broke the screen froma very small drop. Never had an issue with the original moto x, it's survived many drops without damage
Best of luck this go around
People complain if the bezels are too big or small it seems. The casemate bumper is not bulky and provides some protection.
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Dahenjo said:
Smart move and hope you don't need it.
Finally got the replacement last week (Monday 10/12) but Motorola really messed up/lost the original claim (won't go into the gory details) which killed ~10 days with no action whatever, but then after escalating to the stateside support tier was quickly given a code to order a brand new phone through Motomaker which I did on 9/30 with expected del'y on 10/16, so luckily it arrived a few days early but the whole thing was frustrating and took over 3 weeks. Returned the damaged unlocked rooted phone to TX with a prepaid label they emailed me, which I'd returned to stock with the tool provided here (many thanks, worked great!) plus replacing the unlocked logo, which was received back with no issues.
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Hey I'm thinking of getting this over the Nexus 5X mostly because of the JetCash deal till the 31st, but you mentioned that you had yours replaced even with the boot loader unlocked? They didn't care at all? That is my last contention. Coming from a Nexus, it was easy as heck to just restore the phone relock and send it back for RMA. As for insurance I think I might get SquareTrade though I'm considering Moto Care, but scared of the support headache in general that I've read all over reddit. I've also never ever cracked a phone screen or really any screen ever, and the this X made it seem like its more likely but still safe than sorry. As for Android updates I'm sure they won't be too quick to ditch this one as it has zero connections to carriers here.
btw I bought the phone right when BestBuy had it, I basically tested it for a week and returned it. I really liked it but it was only 16gb with 9gb left. I can away really happy. Also I like to use my phones without case, so I might put a skin on the sides for grip but that's it, the phone is quite large as is.
I bought it 2 days ago, through this 2days' experience, I am really satisfied with its camera as well as the battery. Today when I hold it and it slid out from my hand and then fall down on the floor. I should say the distance between my hand and floor is only 0.3m or 0.4m. But! the screen has been totally crashed!! I never use a phone has that horrible quality. For my last phone, XR, even not crashed from 1m dropped without any protection and the screen didn't crash at all. What should I do? Ask google for help or find some fix shop? That's really a FUXKing day for me!
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I bought it 2 days ago, through this 2days' experience, I am really satisfied with its camera as well as the battery. Today when I hold it and it slid out from my hand and then fall down on the floor. I should say the distance between my hand and floor is only 0.3m or 0.4m. But! the screen has been totally crashed!! I never use a phone has that horrible quality. For my last phone, XR, even not crashed from 1m dropped without any protection and the screen didn't crash at all. What should I do? Ask google for help or find some fix shop? That's really a FUXKing day for me!
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Call Google. Maybe they will help you out. If not I saw teardown videos and this phone seems relatively easy to repair on your own, if you can find the parts.
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The things with screens is it isn't really the height that kills them. It's how it lands that really decides if it will shatter or not. I've had phones survive being launched off my lap and across the parking lot but then not survive a less than a foot drop on to the floor in my house.
Maybe tell google you pulled it out of your pocket and it was smashed. If you say you dropped it regardless of height they will say no
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The things with screens is it isn't really the height that kills them. It's how it lands that really decides if it will shatter or not. I've had phones survive being launched off my lap and across the parking lot but then not survive a less than a foot drop on to the floor in my house.
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I can second this. I had a phone dropped from my shirt pocket to the floor survive. (A roughly 1.5m drop) The same phone dropping less than 50 cm from my pants pocket to the floor while I was sitting on a curb shattered the screen.
Tbh its foolish not to have the phone wearing tempered glass and a case these days. Even if this is mid range £400 is still £400.
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The things with screens is it isn't really the height that kills them. It's how it lands that really decides if it will shatter or not. I've had phones survive being launched off my lap and across the parking lot but then not survive a less than a foot drop on to the floor in my house.
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you are right, this phone land with its screen totally lip the floor.
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Tbh its foolish not to have the phone wearing tempered glass and a case these days. Even if this is mid range £400 is still £400.
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Yeah, my fault, I regard it as a 200 phone...maybe
lol...it all depends on the point of impact..
i have seen phones with gorilla glass 5 also crack when dropped from similar height ..
cant blame the quality, as no screen manufacturer can say or claim "wont crack if dropped from less than 1m".
Where did you buy it from? You said two days ago, so maybe they will let you exchange it.
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Where did you buy it from? You said two days ago, so maybe they will let you exchange it.
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My friend give me as a gift, so I don't know where he bought..
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My friend give me as a gift, so I don't know where he bought..
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Maybe see if he can exchange it
I'll add my name to the list. Wife dropped her phone from waist height yesterday. Bought on Sunday. Smashed screen. Our Cases are being delivered today. . We have insurance but still. Is Dragon tail glass that much weaker than Gorilla glass?
If you drop weighted glass on the floor 9 times out of 10 it will break no matter the height. If you don't have a case on and it doesn't break consider yourself lucky.
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If you drop weighted glass on the floor 9 times out of 10 it will break no matter the height. If you don't have a case on and it doesn't break consider yourself lucky.
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Totally. Not suggesting otherwise but still sucks. We bought at a store that didn't have cases, and had to wait for Amazon.
That said: anyone know the difference between the two glass types? I watched the bend test and thought it was pretty amazing how much pressure the phone withstood and didn't break.
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Totally. Not suggesting otherwise but still sucks. We bought at a store that didn't have cases, and had to wait for Amazon.
That said: anyone know the difference between the two glass types? I watched the bend test and thought it was pretty amazing how much pressure the phone withstood and didn't break.
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Afaik there are no definitive tests to compare the 2. Anyone who says the dragontrail is weaker is speaking solely on the fact that it was cheaper to manufacture with this instead of gorilla glass. The jerryrigeverything video seems to suggest it scratches at the exact same level of the mohs hardness scale. I think a bad drop without protection is a bad drop, regardless which flavor of glass your device is rocking.
You looked into replacement options? Phone seems relatively simple to take apart based on teardown videos. Maybe save a few bucks and give a replacement a go, assuming parts are available.
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Afaik there are no definitive tests to compare the 2. Anyone who says the dragontrail is weaker is speaking solely on the fact that it was cheaper to manufacture with this instead of gorilla glass. The jerryrigeverything video seems to suggest it scratches at the exact same level of the mohs hardness scale. I think a bad drop without protection is a bad drop, regardless which flavor of glass your device is rocking.
You looked into replacement options? Phone seems relatively simple to take apart based on teardown videos. Maybe save a few bucks and give a replacement a go, assuming parts are available.
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Luckily I have insurance (figured going caseless, I would take it for the first month)
Screen replacement seems cheap. I think 129.00 in Canada through the shop
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Luckily I have insurance (figured going caseless, I would take it for the first month)
Screen replacement seems cheap. I think 129.00 in Canada through the shop
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You'd be surprised what you can do yourself. There are very good teardown videos and you set yourself up just in case down the road. If parts are available on eBay you can save and learn.
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Totally. Not suggesting otherwise but still sucks. We bought at a store that didn't have cases, and had to wait for Amazon.
That said: anyone know the difference between the two glass types? I watched the bend test and thought it was pretty amazing how much pressure the phone withstood and didn't break.
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It was years ago at this point but there was a video with a dude testing dragontrail and he did the usual crap, hitting it with a hammer, chucking it across a parking lot, running it over, etc.... It was fine.