How do i know if my HD2 is the leo 1024 or 512 or Tmous?
If it's a tmous version. it will have a T-mobile logo on top of the screen and a green button for picking up call and red button for hanging up. also, 1024 is the same as tmous
All TMous are 1024
Can you get 1024s on O2 UK, cos I'm running android off SD card, and need to store apps on the phone storage, and it says I have 1gb internal memory? I'm slightly confused, cos it says this in Winmo as well
O2 use the EU 512's
The apps that only run from phone memory need to be installed there, but use app 2 sd to move the apps that will work on the sd card
Nigeldg said:
Can you get 1024s on O2 UK, cos I'm running android off SD card, and need to store apps on the phone storage, and it says I have 1gb internal memory? I'm slightly confused, cos it says this in Winmo as well
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Like post #2 said if you have a red end/power button and a green send/call button and have T-Mobile in silver at the top of the device right under th ear speacker. Then you have a TMOUS HD2. Also if you had 1024MB in the ROM flash,memory in Settings>About Phone>Hardware Information in Windows Mobile you have a TMOUS.
Where exactly are you lookin at in the settings while in Android to see 1GB of memory? I have a TMOUS and I am running Android from NAND and I only see 411MB of Memory on mime.
I think the OP means he has 1gb memory but i assume means that the data image file within thr android sd build is 1gb .img. This i assume is what is used to store all the apps and.data when running android from SD card (1gb = loads of android storage) If i am correct then the oeiginal 448mb that is reserved for stock winmo and can only be used while booted un winmo...ie...is untouched when running android from the sd card...I Think!
Con500 said:
I think the OP means he has 1gb memory but i assume means that the data image file within thr android sd build is 1gb .img. This i assume is what is used to store all the apps and.data when running android from SD card (1gb = loads of android storage) If i am correct then the oeiginal 448mb that is reserved for stock winmo and can only be used while booted un winmo...ie...is untouched when running android from the sd card...I Think!
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Dang how did I miss the fact he was talking about a SD card build, crap must have been off in la la land when I read that post.
How come when you run Magdlr cwm zips you have a limited amount of memory compared to a sd android build. i thought the tmous had 1gb memory?
Sorry, My bad...my post wasnt in reference to the OPs original question but was instead referencing Nigeldk post
Slightly confused tho as to how or why you can see 1gb internal memory in winmo. are you maybe seeing 1gb avialable storage on your memory sd card while in winmo? Since im sure my EU hd2 only shows 448mb "intenal storage" but in reality only has around 199mb avialable for actual personal programme/media storage. I assume the remainder of the 448mb is given to the actual winmo system apps/files. Dont take my word for it tho as im pretty new to the hd2 and still working things out
MAGLDR had to be compatible with all HD2's that ment that the size was limited to 512MB since only the US tmobile HD2 has the 1G nand.. so what ever you put magldr only wrights to about 512MB
(so ive heard, and makes sense) feel free to correct me
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hakuchi18v said:
MAGLDR had to be compatible with all HD2's that ment that the size was limited to 512MB since only the US tmobile HD2 has the 1G nand.. so what ever you put magldr only wrights to about 512MB
(so ive heard, and makes sense) feel free to correct me
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You are correct the DFT had to make MAGLDR compatible with all HD2's. Being that the TMOUS has 1024MB of ROM and the EU HD2's has 512MB of ROM. but I do not think it is limited to 512MB of ROM cause if that was the case you would not have separate ROM downloads for EU HD2's and TMOUS HD2's.
I do know though that MAGLDR was made to work with the TMOUS's 576MB of RAM just like the TMOUS Win Mo ROMs. This is why you have to have a 2.07.50.xx or higher radio with MAGLDR and also why MAGLDR unlocks the extra 128MB of RAM in the EU HD2's
I was probably looking at the wrong thing. It says 576mb in actual fact, which makes more sense. Thank you so much for your help
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Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
geekyhawkes said:
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
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Same problem with me I only have 35 mb free internal memory ,own using cotulla nand desire Rom
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try the desire hd version, it has a bit more space ..
the owner of a hd2 (us) with 1024mb have no problems with that ..
Hi
Did you try titanium backup to move apps from nand to SD, it should be better to give it a try...
Using nexushd2 I have 216 MB free space.
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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TMOUS HD2 Rocks
I just get free space only 99 mb on my hd2, i want to know why each device don't be got free space as same as ones.
My hd2 runs in Colluta's desire nand rom.
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This is not a problem with you guys, it's just with the 512 limit of our devices.
Be patient and someone /Cotulla/ will fix it so that we can install to SD card.
BTW
I just downloaded move2sd and it works just fine. Now my apps go to the sd and i've moved all possible apps to sd.
I am left with 82 mb which should be enough for txt and logs...
Im glad im not by myself with this. I guess the solution will come when the devs get chance to get ext4 up and running on our sd cards as data.img, that way the problem goes away. apps2sd/titanium etc are all fine, but if you have a lot of apps then you will always be in the situation i am of bouncing off the warning of low space.
The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
Google Earth and Flash Player are killing me.
They still hold much space after moving to sd.
Looking forward to app2ext.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
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Sorry man, not tring to be ignorant, I do love my TMo HD2. Ido agree with you on the ext3. I have my N1 w/a2sd and its awesome, no need to worry about space.I had about 95+ apps at one time and still had 150mb free of internal. Im guessing once we get a recovery img. we can then get the ext3 and a2sd working as it should. I have clockworks recovery on my N1 and works awsome. You can Backup any part of your rom even your ext3. Also Amon_RA's recovery is good too cause it has PSfreedom implemented, for those looking at PSFreedom Modds
Hi everybody
I am using a android SD build with exceller boot loader. today i was about to flash MAGDLR on it so then i can flash Android NAND build, but when i did active sync and i opened the option to view my files on my sd card, here comes the problem when i opened it i saw two 1GB disks.
I only have 1GB sd card in there and i thought HTC hd2's only have 576mb of ram then why is it showing me two 1GB disks.
I can upload a Picture if u would like to see it.
Thanks.
1gb of RAM? You mean ROM right? Rom is internal storage while ram is active memory or whatever, i won't dive into it.
Well maybe your phone is a TMOUS HD2, which has 1 gb of ROM, EU hd2's have only 512mb.
If you see a t-mobile logo at the top of your phone, your phone is a TMOUS hd2.
do u mean, when i install an app it install its on the ROM?
"I am not a NOOB"
It matters not whether or not the HD2 has 576 ram or what not, why would the ram show up as a place as to where you could store files? It's not supposed to happen or possible. >.>
You're running winmo on NAND and boot android through SD card, correct?
1gb refers to the NAND storage
1gb refers to your SD card
These are ROMs, not RAM.
Yes I got it. It was the nand storage and now I have installed android on it so it is done now.
Thank you all
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I seem to have killed off my HTC HD2.
I followed a posted instructions link on here
Phone has
2.15.50.14 Radio installed
HARDSPL 2.08 installed
I then went and tried to use MAGLDR. This went through but on reboot phone stalls at the Blue 02 weclome screen.
Tried many reloads of all the above but it still hangs. Any advice.
The only issue I think I have is that its a 320MB version as it was one of the first to the UK.
Hi
Just to let you know if you get this issue I solved it. Used Task29 and rebuilt phone up from there. Runnimg WM7 but not going to keep it as I'm finding it very boring.
dpf2002 said:
Hi
Just to let you know if you get this issue I solved it. Used Task29 and rebuilt phone up from there. Runnimg WM7 but not going to keep it as I'm finding it very boring.
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Do you have a 320mb pre-release version?
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you are only guessing you have a 320meg version, you have the proper eu version not a test unit, i got mine from o2 on the day it arrived
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Not sure now. In WM7 in phone about it now states
Total Storage 158.29MB
Avaailable Storage 61.96 MB
This is causing me a real issue as it doesn't see my SD Card nor can I find any settings to use it.
becayse wp7 takes up the internal memory, and not all sd cards are compatable with wp7
Format your card with Panasonic SD Formatter with....
Format: FULL
Erase: ON
Size Adjustment: ON
Then put SD card into phone and re-flash WP7 and it should work properly and you see all your free space. If you view the card via PC it will say you have 200MB free space as WP7 partitions your card, The 200MB is used by system and the other partition is your storage space. Remember not to power on phone without SD card though.
If you still dont get full space its likley that your card is not compatible so you will need to use another.
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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This needs to go in the Q&A forum, not the development forum.
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Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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u can try one ap2sd rom capabile or ap2ext.
Spacetower said:
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
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Yea but i am already run appmonster and i run all apps from sdcard and still i only get 14mb Free and still want to use all phonememory that is avalible.
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ap2sd, data2ext is different
Try the ROM in my sig. 320mb of free storage after you freed up 24mb from magldr.
with data2ext you make an ext2/3/4 partion on your sd card and the phone shows it as phone memory,but it depend on the ROM if it uses data2ext or sometimes you can choose it in a configfile. so just try another rom, my favorite is coredroid, a Desire HD ROM but very fast and with widgets in the notification bar like Galaxy S
Just to make this clear. By internal storage, they mean the ROM of your device. So that means you have 512 ROM. And ROM is the space for where the OS/bootloader, radio, apps, get installed.
Therefore when you say there is only 125 mb space free, that means that the android rom you just installed & bootloader took up the 387mb ROM you so claim to be missing. So is anything wrong with your device? Conclusion: No. Solutions? The people above have given them.
In my phone, when i run appmonster it says:
Phone 114,00MB / 24,05 MB Apps: 49
SD 14,83 / 6,93 GB
Maybe i missunderstand but the phone complain against my phone-storage.
ap2sd, data2ext is different
Installed coredroid and now i dont have any problems with space
Didnt know what the problem was so i reeinstalled another version of Android and it seems to work nice, it is very very fast.
Thanx for all your help.
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Will there be any chance of someone unlocking the full 1 gig on T-Mobile us version?
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It is already unlocked, it also depends on what you mean by "unlock" .
If you mean on Windows Phone 7. There is no current way to do that, and I doubt that there will be any . Because WP7 uses the SD-card as internal Storage so it is doubtful that it'll use both NAND and SD. In Android, it is unlocked and Tmo users get more space after they flash an android ROM.
Well when u install any rom on you're nand using mgldr or clk it only uses 512 of you're nand.my question is anyone developing or going to use the full 1 gig on our T-Mobile us version....
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Most roms have the tmous option what uses the full 1024mb....
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Mgldr doesn't allow use of the full 1024 as they stated it set at 512 since it works for both T-Mobile us and euro HD....but I wonder if clk uses full 1024 and if so then y have to sd-ext, or ap2sd...
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I have the same question as OP do. When you repartition NAND for MGLDR or CLK the biggest option are 400MB and 450 MB respectively. That will left about 500MB unused for TMOUS1024, is there some way to use all available space for TMOUS1024 ?
When you partition 400/450, that space is used by the rom, the remaining space on the tmous will be used for internal storage
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bigfdaddy said:
Mgldr doesn't allow use of the full 1024 as they stated it set at 512 since it works for both T-Mobile us and euro HD....but I wonder if clk uses full 1024 and if so then y have to sd-ext, or ap2sd...
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That's not true,
tmous ROMs have full use of 1gb ROM, that's why you don't have to have sdext like you do in some eu roms.
Ok well it was just my understanding that magldr only uses 512 and same with clk....I've been hearing about bad Nan blocks caused by constant flashing on basically half our nand....also if this was the case why do we need to have android files installed on the SD card y not all internally like a true android phone?
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Because this is not a true android phone....
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Because this is not a true android phone....
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Well I know that it isn't a true android phone duhhhh lol...just wondering y can't load everything into nand instead of being split nand and SD...
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When you partition 400/450, that space is used by the rom, the remaining space on the tmous will be used for internal storage
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Ok but u say the rest is used for apps Wich isn't true for example the desire hd and sense 3.0 rom size is 420mb give or take it.that means for us tmobile us users it would leave almost 500mb left in nand.....so if u have almost 500 MB left their would be no need for ap2sd or sd-ext as a must....instead it shows nand being almost full after installing...
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Well I know that it isn't a true android phone duhhhh lol...just wondering y can't load everything into nand instead of being split nand and SD...
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I am not sure you understand how it works. Of course you can install Android on NAND - there is a whole separate section dedicated to NAND only. You also have an option of installing to SD, in case you might want to run 2 OS and alternate between them. I have Android NAND installed and must say, it runs as if it always belonged. And you do get to install everything in NAND, most of my apps are installed that way, I will only move something if I will start running out of space, but the way it is, I still have a while to go...
TMOUS uses 1024 to store BOTH, your NAND install, should you choose to go that way, AND your programs, just select the ROM compatible with TMOUS. It's not like you get NAND partitioned to waste the remaining 512Mb.
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I am not sure you understand how it works. Of course you can install Android on NAND - there is a whole separate section dedicated to NAND only. You also have an option of installing to SD, in case you might want to run 2 OS and alternate between them. I have Android NAND installed and must say, it runs as if it always belonged. And you do get to install everything in NAND, most of my apps are installed that way, I will only move something if I will start running out of space, but the way it is, I still have a while to go...
TMOUS uses 1024 to store BOTH, your NAND install, should you choose to go that way, AND your programs, just select the ROM compatible with TMOUS. It's not like you get NAND partitioned to waste the remaining 512Mb.
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Yes I understand theirs a whole nand section I've been using nand since mgldr 1.12....if u look at you're SD card there are files on it required for android to run...
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bigfdaddy said:
Yes I understand theirs a whole nand section I've been using nand since mgldr 1.12....if u look at you're SD card there are files on it required for android to run...
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that's not true, go ahead and take out your SD card and boot up android NAND, it will run just fine. On ANY android phone, it saves some files/folders on SD on boot to utilize, not just the HD2,
But to run Android it does not need any files on SD. With CWM flashes over cLK, it basically is a "true" android device.
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that's not true, go ahead and take out your SD card and boot up android NAND, it will run just fine. On ANY android phone, it saves some files/folders on SD on boot to utilize, not just the HD2,
But to run Android it does not need any files on SD. With CWM flashes over cLK, it basically is a "true" android device.
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Ok ty that was one of my questions is y we have certain files on the SD card....
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Ya android uses it to store some things. Its like that in all phones
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I took my regular card out last week and replaced it with one where I have movies only, a whole collection of just movies. And... nothing happened. The phone will create folders for additional storage, depending on setup, most likely, but it's not imperative to have the card to run Android off NAND. You install off SD originally, so will have Android installation files on it to begin with, once installed - swap cards, do whatever.
It will be another story if you had some apps moved to SD for whatever reasons of your own, then sure, you will need to have your card in to run those apps. If you have wallpapers stored on SD - same thing. But if you install Android to NAND, your entire NAND will be used without any not being available to you or partitioned in a way that will 'lock' half of available internal memory, which is what your original question was about. I have 479Mb of internal memory listed as available and none on SD. When I install anything to my phone it is installed to internal memory. The only things that needed my SD memory to be available were books.