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I just read about this on the Washington Post. What are yall thoughts regarding a merger between T-mobile and Sprint?
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Personally, I think it sucks. Not sure how it could benefit the consumer, or the manufacturers... I don't like the idea of there only being 3 big players.... I dont like the idea of GSM/CDMA joining... not even sure how that would work.
Nothing seems beneficial....
This Will Not Be Good,
for 1, which system are they really going to end up using ? Sprint is CDMA my Bet this will be bad for the consumer
Mergers like these inevitably only benefit the Company not the consumer. Ever notice that when one company raises prices the other do so as well? The only "hold mechanism" that prevents this is rigorous competition. When there is only a duo or tri-opoloy then corporate price fixing becomes a sure thing. Remember when (maybe most are not old enough) cable TV was 10 major players, Now ? 3, and what happened as a result of all the mergers and acquisitions ? higher prices and less selection.
On another note : Do you remember SamsungJohn ? and his Great announcement, I wonder if this is it. If it is .........we're getting HOSED..............
I think its very good. as long as they provide the same plan after merger
anyways, Sprint is starting 4g rollout, which is nice for future.
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I heard about that a while ago too. Then there would be "the big three ". The question that comes to mind is, how does that benefit us? lower bills? Better phones? Better network?
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Be assured this isn't about what's best for the customers. It's about what's best for the companies staying profitable.
I don't see any personal benefit from it.
Most likely they'll keep the GSM and CDMA networks and gradually migrate everyone over to LTE.
Yeah, there is NO WAY this benefits the consumer. Likely less high-end phones (dont need as many rollouts/marketing involved)... less need for prices to stay low (since if all 3 started raising prices, the consumer has no choice).
I cant articulate just how much I hate the idea of it.
This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up
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This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up
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Yeah I've been hearing these rumors for over a year now.
Don't take away the great plans or SIMs and maybe we'll be good.
Oh no, Sprint just likes to ruin my mobile life I remember a few years back when I got my first Nextel and discovered Howard Forums. I loved my Nextels and learned to make some good money selling customized Nextels & parting out the LE phones. Then the rumors came about the Sprint Nextel merger. They destroyed Nextel. I went back to TMobile and now this again! Capitalism at it's best.
Lets see, best customer satisfaction? T mobile
Best prices? T mobile
Acceptable service? T mobile
Family friendly plans? T mobile
Unlimited cheap data? T mobile
Open architecture? Gsm phones, unlocked phones compatibility?
T mobile
yet the company is suffering from losses.
What's wrong with people?
Why would anyone support verizon or at&t
If people supported tmobile, this would never happen
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metro pcs here i come lol
Most people are stuck on tmobile and the voicestream days. Tmobile has always gotten knocked for its service... But honestly ive been a customer since 2000 and have noticed the serice is now on par with verizon. Priblem is people arent smart, and most people stay with verizon because they have that "can u hear me now?" **** and also because they advertise like madmen.
isnt tmo owned by deutschtelecom also?
And also I dont see how a merger between 2 companies using 2 different cell technologies will be beneficial. Ifanything tmobile should juststick with offering the cheapest plans and best customer service and slowly but surely you will see people migrate over slower...
Tmobile really doesnt offer anything special anymore, nd customer service definantly went downhill from what it used to be.
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these rumors have been going around for years. it wouldn't really make sense, either. their networks are incompatible, and tmob has been spending a **** ton of money on their network.
Now i know why tmobile isn't bashing sprint in their commercials.
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Most people are stuck on tmobile and the voicestream days. Tmobile has always gotten knocked for its service... But honestly ive been a customer since 2000 and have noticed the serice is now on par with verizon. Priblem is people arent smart, and most people stay with verizon because they have that "can u hear me now?" **** and also because they advertise like madmen.
isnt tmo owned by deutschtelecom also?
And also I dont see how a merger between 2 companies using 2 different cell technologies will be beneficial. Ifanything tmobile should juststick with offering the cheapest plans and best customer service and slowly but surely you will see people migrate over slower...
Tmobile really doesnt offer anything special anymore, nd customer service definantly went downhill from what it used to be.
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Good service is geographical. I live in LA and my service is very spotty. I worked for T-mobile for almost 4.5 years and my reception changed everytime I moved. Right now it is absolutely horrible but I stay on because I have a good price.
After reading a few articles about the potential merger I get the idea that they are not looking to integrate their systems but cut the operations cost that they are incurring, at least for the near short term. In reality it is not written anywhere that if two companies merge they must use one system or another. It would be a major game changer for both of these companies to merge and still use each carriers network (talk about flexibility). Regardless if they companies merge though prices will continue to go up. Data has become such a big commodity that people are willing to pay more for it regardless of who they have.
Cliffnotes: In my opinion they will only be merging operations for the first few years to cut costs, see which provider can retain the most amount of customers and go from there.
Is sprint even as big as tmobile is? Its sad that all these companies are trying to charge as much as possible for data...
And my biggest problem with tmobile is I pay an additional 20 bucks for my data service... And its supposedly unlimited.. But the minute I hit that 5gb cap I get slowed to literally dial up speed... Thanks tmobile!!! So the data really isnt unlimited, and I cant even purchase more bandwith
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Is sprint even as big as tmobile is? Its sad that all these companies are trying to charge as much as possible for data...
And my biggest problem with tmobile is I pay an additional 20 bucks for my data service... And its supposedly unlimited.. But the minute I hit that 5gb cap I get slowed to literally dial up speed... Thanks tmobile!!! So the data really isnt unlimited, and I cant even purchase more bandwith
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Agreed, its tricky advertising regarding unlimited data. But that's the best you can get in USA . At least they don't charge for excess data past 5GB. No one offers unlimited data for that price. For example AT&T offers 2GB for $20 you are paying plus an additional $5, not to mention overage fees...
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Agreed, its tricky advertising regarding unlimited data. But that's the best you can get in USA . At least they don't charge for excess data past 5GB. No one offers unlimited data for that price. For example AT&T offers 2GB for $20 you are paying plus an additional $5, not to mention overage fees...
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And this is exactly why people dont join tmobile... Make the bandwidth unlimited for like 25 buxs... And then advertise that you really give unlimited compared to what att and verizon do...
If you want to suceed you have to stand out... And tmobile barely stands out, and I beieve sprints plans are the cheapest
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And this is exactly why people dont join tmobile... Make the bandwidth unlimited for like 25 buxs... And then advertise that you really give unlimited compared to what att and verizon do...
If you want to suceed you have to stand out... And tmobile barely stands out, and I beieve sprints plans are the cheapest
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Actually it is unlimited. Speed is limited to 3/4-g until 5GB, then throttled, can't really complain for that. I'd take this over $500 or so extra per GB of ATT overage
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Please go here and sign, it has to do with sim swapping and the grandfathered unlimited data plan being resended.
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This shouldn't be a surprise, ATT didn't buy Tmobile for the customers, they just want the network. Screw them both, as soon as they change anything on my plan (just signed til 2013), I'm gone.
mr8820 said:
This shouldn't be a surprise, ATT didn't buy Tmobile for the customers, they just want the network. Screw them both, as soon as they change anything on my plan (just signed til 2013), I'm gone.
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I'm with you doc, they raise the rates on my plan and I'm back with Sprint in a heartbeat.
What up orange! Yeah, the state of cell phones will get very bleak soon .
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mr8820 said:
What up orange! Yeah, the state of cell phones will get very bleak soon .
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Yeah it sure seems that way for us T-Mobile USA customers. I am sure AT&T is going to figure out some kind of way to screw us T-Mobile adopties eventualy. I mean if they have no respect for their current customers what makes anyone think us T-Mobile users will be any different.
I linked an article in another thread from tmonews, the guy broke down some interesting facts about ATT...but in the end, we're all going to lose. Sprint will get swallowed up, thus officially ending unlimited web on phones...my sister was on Alltel with a sweet plan, Verizon canned that quick.
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T-Macgnolia said:
Yeah it sure seems that way for us T-Mobile USA customers. I am sure AT&T is going to figure out some kind of way to screw us T-Mobile adopties eventualy. I mean if they have no respect for their current customers what makes anyone think us T-Mobile users will be any different.
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So you have experience with ATT then? Or are you just doomsday guessing? Cause it sure seems like a lot of T-mobile customers magically know more about ATT than the actual, you know, customers.
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So you have experience with ATT then? Or are you just doomsday guessing? Cause it sure seems like a lot of T-mobile customers magically know more about ATT than the actual, you know, customers.
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No I am not just "doomsday guessing" as you said. I am speaking from experience. I was a AT&T customer about 3 years ago and I had a very bad experience with them. So I paid my cancellation fee and moved on. I was only with them for not quite a year and just got feed up with them. My mom just last week had her phone and my step fathers phone turned off and went to a prepaid service. My mom was a AT&T customer for 21 years, she had her home phone and cellphones through AT&T. She had her numbers disconnected cause she had been calling AT&T's costumer service and going to her local AT&t for 6 months straight to try to get a better deal on her cell phone plans cause she was paying $280 dollars a month for her service and she or my step dad did not have smartphones. They both had dumb phones and nether one of them used there phone for any kind of internet, instant messaging, or multimedia messaging. Heck my mom and step father barely new how to even use the dumb phones they had. Plus the reception they got at their house was terrible, could not even stand inside the house to talk on the phone. Both of their phones where pieces of **** and AT&T would not offer her any other dumb phones for a decent price. Like I said my mom was a customer with AT&T for 21 years. and they treated her like ****. So don't come at me with "Cause it sure seems like a lot of T-mobile customers magically know more about ATT than the actual, you know, customers" crap. I know plenty about AT&T. And I know they just want T-Mobiles network they could give a crap less about keeping their customers.
Plus one, not to mention that most tmobile customers used to be on att and ran from them.
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Bye bye unlimited plans.
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No I am not just "doomsday guessing" as you said. I am speaking from experience. I was a AT&T customer about 3 years ago and I had a very bad experience with them.
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And I've been with them since the Cingular Merger for 7 years. Guess my 7 is greater than your 'less than 1'.
My mom was a AT&T customer for 21 years, she had her home phone and cellphones through AT&T.
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AT&T Wireless has only been around for 10 years. You do realize that they are different areas right?
She had her numbers disconnected cause she had been calling AT&T's costumer service and going to her local AT&t for 6 months straight to try to get a better deal on her cell phone plans cause she was paying $280 dollars a month for her service and she or my step dad did not have smartphones.
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Now here's the interesting part. That number doesn't make sense unless they had an unlimited minutes plan with more than 2 phones or a 4000 minute plan with Canada calling. So it sounds like either a salesperson talked them into an expensive plan or they chose a Canada package or were given one.
In either case, they could have changed plans. And no, I don't believe that they weren't allowed. That just sounds like bull****.
Your facts are wrong about ATT, they've been around way longer than 10 years...the U.S. government made them break up over 20 years ago because they were a monopoly..Cingular was born, and after the dust settled, ATT quietly bought them back.
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mr8820 said:
Your facts are wrong about ATT, they've been around way longer than 10 years...the U.S. government made them break up over 20 years ago because they were a monopoly..Cingular was born, and after the dust settled, ATT quietly bought them back.
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Reading is fundamental.
"AT&T Wireless has only been around for 10 years."
See, now you want to argue instead of discussing....and you kind of sound trollish buddy .
http://www.corp.att.com/history/history1.html
reading is fundamental
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See, now you want to argue instead of discussing....and you kind of sound trollish buddy .
http://www.corp.att.com/history/history1.html
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I think he was meaning that AT&T Wireless had only been around 10 years. I note from your link that they were established in 1993, which would in fact be 18 years.
So, I was calling AT&T today because my phone all the sudden had data connection but would not make our receive calls/texts. I then told them I would like a two month credit on my primary line since HSUPA was locked on my 4G device. I told them I used my phone a lot for data purposes and was highly upset that my 4G phone wasn't even getting 3G speeds. I told them that I wanted a two month credit for my primary line wich is $69.99 a month and a two month credit for my unlimited data which is $30 a month. Long story short, my $270 cell phone bill this month is now $26.25! Just thought I would let everyone know so you can get your money back since you weren't receiving the service you were paying for.
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The reason I told them two months was because that was how long I had the phone before HSUPA was unlocked, just so everyone knows.
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Wow... I agree that At&t could have marketed the whole 4g thing a little better, but that seems a little entitled. I don't think everyone that brings it up will get the same results either.
But WOW... Demanding $200 because it took a little longer to upload your photos to facebook for a couple months?
I'm sure everyone on your twitter or facebook really needs to know what you're doing right now, but does a few seconds really matter?
I can't help but think that if less people called in with unreasonable credit expectations, all our bills might be just a little lower.
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Well, none of our bills are getting any cheaper so I figure I'll take the money where I can get it.
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But WOW... Demanding $200 because it took a little longer to upload your photos to facebook for a couple months?
I'm sure everyone on your twitter or facebook really needs to know what you're doing right now, but does a few seconds really matter?
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I think you are missing the OP's point. AT&T lied to him/her about 4G availability on the Atrix because HSUPA was not enabled. Most of us can't be bothered to go through the bs it takes with AT&T to get phone bills reduced, so we just live with it. Kudos to the OP for getting a decent credit from them!
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I think you are missing the OP's point. AT&T lied to him/her about 4G availability on the Atrix because HSUPA was not enabled. Most of us can't be bothered to go through the bs it takes with AT&T to get phone bills reduced, so we just live with it. Kudos to the OP for getting a decent credit from them!
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Agree. I'll demand a refund also.
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I definitely see nothing wrong from the OP about what he did. Honestly I wish AT&T would have done this for us from the beginning automatically. I was still paying the same amount as my iPhone and not even getting the 3G speeds I had on that because they wouldn't give me what I was paying for.
I just wish that at&t would have been up front about the capped upload speeds. I do know for a fact that I used the crap out of my atrix and I don't think they owe me anything off my bill. Capped upload or not, I still hit 6GB on my unlimited plan.
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Are you kidding? The phone is called the "Atrix 4G". The "4G" network was up before the release of the phone, but the atrix 4G was not allowed to access it (which was not advertised). Of course everyone who bought the phone before the latest update is entitled to a refund of there data charges prior to the 4g update! I just got $90 refunded because AT&T also agrees with us, $139 to $42. Stop being so brainwashed and realize that you are entitled to what was advertised, you just have to grow a pair and stand up for yourself
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LOL the HSUPA is not 4G anyway its 3G or 3.5 G
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LOL the HSUPA is not 4G anyway its 3G or 3.5 G
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Exactly! Anyone who didn't know they were not getting new tech or the fastest speeds around did absolutely NO research beyond the 4g marketing tagline. It just strikes me as insincere anger and a grab at a few bucks to say At&t owes us anything for it. They were right in saying that 99% of things done from the handset don't need HSUPA anyway. And they were pretty quick (by their usual glacial work speed anyway) to get the update out when they found out that doesn't wash with 99% of people (me included).
See here for a hilarious and much better stated explanation of my feelings on this.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&gl=US
Or maybe I'm just the silly goose.
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After waiting for the one x for months, I am disgusted with what they delivered. Tons of issues out of the box, no unlocked bootloader, no sd card, and miserable multitasking. Sprint is getting the s4 lte one x with bootloader unlock, and ad card. Verizon is getting it also with possibly a s5 cpu.
Any recommendations on sprint vs Verizon as far as service quality and price for the ny metro/long island area?
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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After waiting for the one x for months, I am disgusted with what they delivered. Tons of issues out of the box, no unlocked bootloader, no sd card, and miserable multitasking. Sprint is getting the s4 lte one x with bootloader unlock, and ad card. Verizon is getting it also with possibly a s5 cpu.
Any recommendations on sprint vs Verizon as far as service quality and price for the ny metro/long island area?
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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You can go to sprints website and view a map of their coverage. Same for verizon. However it should go without saying that the coverage should be next to perfect since not only are you in a very busy but city but also a well known area. I live in Atlanta, GA and Sprint 4G is golden over here. There are small pocket areas where coverage drops. And some where it drops for sprint too. As for local deals and plans you will have to check that in your area. It varies. I did break my contract with ATT though and switched to sprint. I had a hefty ETF to pay but it was worth it. Unlimited data, text, and tethering is worth it. I also like Sprint's tight google voice integration. I was using it on ATT and it was really limited but it's much more integrated on sprint.
So for me it was worth it. Love my Epic Touch 4G. To give ATT a little bit of credit they do seem to be snatching up some in demand android phones. I had no idea that ATT's version of the HTCOneX was that different either. This whole "lets change the internals of the phone for every carrier" is really annoying. The Epic Touch 4G looks different from the galaxy s2 skyrocket. And I think the global version is different too. The only downside about sprint's epic touch 4G is no NFC
But GS3 is coming soon. Hope this helped.
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I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties.
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This type of thing happens at all telecom companies. Enjoy having no LTE over at Sprint.
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And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment!
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It happens all the time. In a year at&t will get the sweet device and Sprint users will be sad. I haven't noticed any major trends in who gets what equipment amongst the major carriers... and Sprint. Well besides the iphone. Would I change if I really wanted a device at another company? Maybe. I have an unlimited data contract and a corporate discount though so I can't really see anyone giving me a better deal.
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This type of thing happens at all telecom companies. Enjoy having no LTE over at Sprint.
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AT&T LTE is kinda laughable though. I wish they left HSPA+ alone in the One X and gave me a quad-core instead.
Verizon in coverage and LTE. Sprint with prices and unlimited data.
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Verizon in coverage and LTE. Sprint with prices and unlimited data.
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This.
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T-Mobile is where it's at! I have their value plan and pay $70 a month after taxes for unlimited everything and 2 GB of 4G. Can't beat that.
Not sure where you're getting your info, OP, but Verizon's CEO just put out a press release stating that VZ will not be getting any new HTC phones in the short term, namely the HTC One series.
It depends on what your needs are. Do you use your data alot? Do you need the fast LTE speeds? Do you need a lot of minutes? Obviously phone choice is a huge deciding factor. All those questions could help us help you.
I have unlimited(limited) data and need 5gb+, need 900 minutes, would love lte(not a dealbreaker), 500+ text messages, free mobile to mobile calling, and be less than what I'm paying now, about $97.
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And Verizon is going to get a "one x" phone, it just won't be marketed as that. Look for a HTC phone similar in specs to LTE one x, but with a newer version CPU called S4 PRO(with new 320 gpu). Removable battery, sd card slot, 4.7" or bigger display.
Not confirmed of course, just adds up from various info and comments that have been made by qcomm, Verizon, and HTC. The biggest being they are due to release the replacement for the rezound in Q3. Everyone is bringing the 4.7"+slcd2 screen with qcomm s4 lte to market because it is a great combo, I don't think Big Red will miss out on the fun.
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I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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First of all, you can thank your new BFF "Sprint" for having a hand in that.
Asides from having really huge balls, I can't see how a failed merger undermines his abilities as a CEO? How do you think mergers work?
And unless you sir, own a significant amount of shares in AT&T, I don't understand how any of that $4 billion is even remotely 'yours'. Everything the company charges you are in exchange for their services, not stocks.
Lastly, could you provide me with an example where it shows the penalty fee being relayed onto the customer?
Thanks!
if you just want a lower monthly bill, I would try calling customer service, follow the prompts until you hear the one for cancel you account press 5, etc., it will direct you to the correct person, then say you're thinking about canceling because its too expensive, they will probably offer you some disscounts. last time I did it, they gave me $20 off credit for 6 months, free messaging 6 months, and a one time $40 credit I think.
worth a shot.
Ive been with them 6 years, I like GSM for the fact I can buy and use international devices, I dont like how they put non LTE unlmited plans on 3GB.
Every 1 of the big 4 has its pros and cons.
Agree about the gsm benefits.
And where dou think the 4 billion is coming from? Us. And we will pay twice, the 4bil+ in fines, and another 4bil+ to build the network he failed to acquire. I have a big problem with the "liar" receiving 22mil for failing. A better reward would have been a pink slip like everyone else would have received. Look up Randall Stephensons comments, he flat out lies, and had no clue how anything actually works. Just another entitled wall street moron ruining a great company in order to line their pockets via wall street. This is exactly why America is failing. Provide the lowest quality as long as it means higher stock prices. And even well performing stocks don't keep up with inflation, resulting in stealing from customers, as well as the shareholders. Do the research and WAKE UP ALREADY. STOP ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE CONNED BY WALL STREET AND THE ENTITLED ULTRA RICH!
Any one here get a 22million bonus after costing your company 4+bil? No, you would have been fired!
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Agree about the gsm benefits.
And where dou think the 4 billion is coming from? Us. And we will pay twice, the 4bil+ in fines, and another 4bil+ to build the network he failed to acquire. I have a big problem with the "liar" receiving 22mil for failing. A better reward would have been a pink slip like everyone else would have received. Look up Randall Stephensons comments, he flat out lies, and had no clue how anything actually works. Just another entitled wall street moron ruining a great company in order to line their pockets via wall street. This is exactly why America is failing. Provide the lowest quality as long as it means higher stock prices. And even well performing stocks don't keep up with inflation, resulting in stealing from customers, as well as the shareholders. Do the research and WAKE UP ALREADY. STOP ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE CONNED BY WALL STREET AND THE ENTITLED ULTRA RICH!
Any one here get a 22million bonus after costing your company 4+bil? No, you would have been fired!
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Oh god, are you one of those antiwallstreet idiots 99 percenters camping?
I won't even bother arguing the logistics with you and pointing out your failed logic on the nature of economics. Have a good day.
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Guesss you are a Wall Street(rigged casino) idiot. I can't stand occupy, it is a scam funded by certain political groups to pass more regulations.
The market doesn't keep up with inflation. Good luck giving your money to the rich. Effing economists.
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Contrary to popular beliefs,
Economists are more likely to be liberals.
But your statements are hollow and illogical. Even a bleeding heart would disagree with what you're stating.
By your logic, you're stating company revenue=customer investment.
You paid for a service, NOT for investment shares. Your service charges do not accrue to company shares. Once that money is paid and becomes company profit/revenue they can do whatever the hell they wanna do with it and no legal obligation binds them to spend it in your best interest. The loss is the company's loss, not your loss.
I don't understand how market parity and inflation has anything to do with this.
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God I hate liberals and their phony agenda. They claim to be liberal, want a million rules and regs, and tell you what to do. The only thing they are libral with is other peoples money. Anyone need more social assistance programs?
Don't like either Republicans or Democrats, they are all liars.
How about following the constitution and logic? Political parties only divide us as Americans and prevent anything from getting done.
Rep and Dem both laugh at us together all the way to the bank. Any more ultra rich need a billion dollar "bailout"?
We pay for all this crap. Period. We the people, not we the minority ultra rich!
Defend these morons all you want. Try looking past the curtain, there is more to it than what they let you see. You are being fleeced every day. Stand up for yourself, stop accepting what they "give" you. Earn what is yours, and don't let them steal it. I work 3 jobs. I work hard. I don't ask for handouts. Corporate America takes what they want, from who they want, and when they want. They run companies into the ground only to receive bonuses and bailouts. Enough is enough. I stand up for myself. You will not stand in my way.
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This has to be the funniest thread I've read in a while, and I've been a lurker on this site since 2009, but ultimately you're going to be footing the bill for your foot out the door. Either way, by your logic, you're going to be losing money. Unless you can convince a friendly CS Rep to cancel your contract without the ETF. Here's a hint: I wouldn't rattle on about the reasons you're leaving and instead make up a blatent lie. Also, put on your super nice voice.... if you have one.
Sprint, NO
its horrible. So-Called 4g
So today Verizon has finally succeeded in screwing me out of my unlimited data package. Check this out. So my girlfriend goes into the Verizon store to get an upgrade to her phone to a smart phone. The chick behind the counter told her that I had a 4gig package and i only use around 3 gigs a month, so if she turned it into a shared data plan it wouldn't cost any extra. So I get off work and she tells me she got a new phone, blah blah blah, sharing 4 gigs of data. So I called up Verizon and told them the situation and they gave me an email I could write a complaint too and that they don't offer the unlimited package anymore so it would be impossible to switch me back. So not only did they lie to my girlfriend they also pretty much told me to get fu#%ed.
Yeah this is a complaint post, but I also wanted to thank all the devs who made this a great a phone, and because I am leaving Verizon I will have to switch my phone. Verizon and their cdma standard strikes again!
Thanks again to all the devs, i'll be sorry to see my Play go.:crying:
Att xperia play ftw
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That totally blows. I for one plan on telling VZ to suck my white hairy a$$ when I my contract is up. I will mostly get the AT&T xperia play and unlock it to use on T-Mobile. But yeah that is total b.s. sucks man..
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So what're you going to do? Make them lose one customer and you go elsewhere? Do you think they care? Do you actually think other companies won't do the same?
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So what're you going to do? Make them lose one customer and you go elsewhere? Do you think they care? Do you actually think other companies won't do the same?
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Yes, no and maybe. But what would you do? Stay with them after they lie to you or yours? I don't know about you but when a company I pay 150 bucks a month takes a big steamy dump in my mouth, I really don't think I want to do business with them.
So yeah maybe the next company might squat down and take a dump too, but I'll give someone else the benefit a doubt for a while.
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Gonna end up doing the same thing. Either get a Galaxy Nexus or just leave Verizon.
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So what're you going to do? Make them lose one customer and you go elsewhere? Do you think they care? Do you actually think other companies won't do the same?
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That's learned helplessness. Look it up if you don't know what it is. Don't ever eat **** just because you feel like you can't make a difference.
Also, op, threaten to leave and they should give you unlimited as well as some credit to your account. If they don't then bounce to another carrier. Plenty cheaper than v.
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That's learned helplessness. Look it up if you don't know what it is. Don't ever eat **** just because you feel like you can't make a difference.
Also, op, threaten to leave and they should give you unlimited as well as some credit to your account. If they don't then bounce to another carrier. Plenty cheaper than v.
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Or call up the corporate ladder. Seriously, if someone you talk to on the phone doesn't help, ask to speak to their manager. Follow it up the line or send emails. There is no reason why that representative's deceptive practices should be okay, even to the company. Especially if they want your business. Tell them you're cancelling your account and aren't going to pay that cancelling fee. That's the thing that'll make the difference.
As for me, unless something like that happens first, I'll be switching when my contract is up at the end of next year. Switching to Virgin Mobile, who has actually started getting some pretty decent phones lately. Prepaid ftw!
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Or call up the corporate ladder. Seriously, if someone you talk to on the phone doesn't help, ask to speak to their manager. Follow it up the line or send emails. There is no reason why that representative's deceptive practices should be okay, even to the company. Especially if they want your business. Tell them you're cancelling your account and aren't going to pay that cancelling fee. That's the thing that'll make the difference.
As for me, unless something like that happens first, I'll be switching when my contract is up at the end of next year. Switching to Virgin Mobile, who has actually started getting some pretty decent phones lately. Prepaid ftw!
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I already went as high up the ladder as I care too. If unscrupulous practices are ok at the salesman level, and taking into account the companies shift towards the money instead of the consumer, I am pretty much done with them. Epicly disappointed and done.
I think you are being a **** when you call. When I recently lost my unlimited data due to a retard rep at Walmart switching the code to a tiered data plan. I called them and was courteous and knowledgable. Being polite and firm at the same time got the rep to put the unlimited data SOC code back on my account, without even transferring me to another department or higher level rep. Try again, and lose the attitude ,no one will respect you.
.....but let's say you were already pretty rude and showed a high level of frustration and anger, all that is recorded into the notes section of your account for all reps to see. So be careful or no matter who you get transferred to they will politely tell you to fck off.
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I think you are being a **** when you call. When I recently lost my unlimited data due to a retard rep at Walmart switching the code to a tiered data plan. I called them and was courteous and knowledgable. Being polite and firm at the same time got the rep to put the unlimited data SOC code back on my account, without even transferring me to another department or higher level rep. Try again, and lose the attitude ,no one will respect you.
.....but let's say you were already pretty rude and showed a high level of frustration and anger, all that is recorded into the notes section of your account for all reps to see. So be careful or no matter who you get transferred to they will politely tell you to fck off.
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Your probably right, but I find it hard to be polite and courteous to company that lies and misrepresents information.
Don't take this the wrong easy as I hate VZ. But its not VZs fault for this.. it was the lying rep, probably get a perk for switching people to the Shared Data. I would call back explain politely the situation telling g them you feel this was a lie to your girlfriend and your account was switched to shared data against your consent. If you are the authorized user amongst the two of you then they should be a little more helpful.
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Any news on this OP?