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Another one bites the dust

http://androidspin.com/2011/03/01/verizon-tiered-data-plans-this-summer/
Poor people
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people can't really be surprised about this

sigh, I was actually considering switching to verizon, sprint seems to hate detroit.i guess that solidifies sticking with sprint.i don't think I could get by with a 2gb allotment per month considering I average 3gb now. Hopefully sprint realizes their unlimited data is a major aspect they have going for them and don't follow suit.

lmao just another reason to stay with sprint

i use a ton of data on my phone, but only about 50mb on 4g, as im always on wifi. 2gb would be plenty for 99% of users.
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It wont be long before Sprint announces the same thing. Book it. Every advantage they had over the larger carriers is being taken away. From S|P changes, to 10 dollar premium data to all smartphones. They will most certainly follow suit.

Yeah, no big surprise there. Just a matter of time til Sprint does the same, honestly. You guys don't really think Sprint's gonna keep their plans unlimited forever, do you? Too bad we don't have a reasonably priced carrier with good phones that doesn't pull the rug out on ya here in the U.S. As soon as you're happy with a carrier, they change something on you, in order to make more money. Sorry, but they're all businesses, and I have the same level of loyalty to Sprint that they have to me (aka none whatsoever). I've just been kinda pissed since the Sprint bait and switch over their Premier status thing. *End rant. Back to happy old me.

The reason Sprint added the $10 charge is to keep plans unlimited. They are not switching anytime soon.
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I hope tiered plans come to Sprint SOON! I rather pay for what I plan on using instead of paying for bandwidth I don't use.
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It boggles my mind that people (none in this thread) can complain about the $10 premium data charge. Sprint never charged for data before and now they charge only $10. Would people rather pay $30 a month for 5gb or $10 a month for unlimited? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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I can't say one way or the other what Sprint will do or won't do b/c I don't work on the top level of Sprint... but what I can say is that I will be really pissed if they follow suit here with these capitalistic companies... I hate AT&T...never been with any one else except Sprint.... not since... PRIMECo ::head bangs:: but yeah - I have no problem with Sprint so far as they don't change to this crap... I am trying to get my wife to switch to sprint...(she is with AT&T) and they would really be stupid if they make my fight harder...
I mean look at SONY. If I wasnt sort of a non official spokes person for the PS3 - they wouldnt have made 13 sales... I sold 13 friends on the PS3 b/c they couldnt sell me on a XOBX...(I wrote it like that on purpose)... Imagine what sprint will be able to do if they continue to keep unlimited - truely UNLIMITED...

With Sprints data woes as of lately do you honestly think unlimited data is going to last forever? lol...

if we go with LTE... we will lose too...
wimax is what we need to keep on sprint.

brownhornet said:
With Sprints data woes as of lately do you honestly think unlimited data is going to last forever? lol...
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LOL True dat! At 100-300 kb/s on average for 3G speeds around my area, it sure will take me more than 1 month to max out a theoretical cap of 2GB per month if it comes to that. The most ****ed up part of it is that even on my current speeds and no 4G in my area, I still had to pay that $10 fee since last summer.
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Sportsplayer612 said:
It boggles my mind that people (none in this thread) can complain about the $10 premium data charge. Sprint never charged for data before and now they charge only $10. Would people rather pay $30 a month for 5gb or $10 a month for unlimited? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Actually, a lot of people are pissed because of the fact that Sprint refuses to be straight forward about the fee. At first (unofficially), it was a 4G fee. Then when that started getting bad publicity, they tried convincing people that it wasn't for 4g. It was a premium data fee. Nobody even knew what the hell that meant (including Sprint, I think). But the cat was out of the bag. Kind of hard to change your story then. I have no problem with paying the extra $10, personally, especially since I actually get 4g (even though I've used it about 3 times in almost a year). But I do think it sucks how Sprint went about the whole situation. I'd put money on Sprint following suit and getting rid of unlimited data within a year.

right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.

detusueno said:
right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
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True dat. Sprint's current 3G speeds blow. And 4G sucks down battery. Choose the lesser of the two evils.

live2ride96 said:
Actually, a lot of people are pissed because of the fact that Sprint refuses to be straight forward about the fee. At first (unofficially), it was a 4G fee. Then when that started getting bad publicity, they tried convincing people that it wasn't for 4g. It was a premium data fee. Nobody even knew what the hell that meant (including Sprint, I think). But the cat was out of the bag. Kind of hard to change your story then. I have no problem with paying the extra $10, personally, especially since I actually get 4g (even though I've used it about 3 times in almost a year). But I do think it sucks how Sprint went about the whole situation. I'd put money on Sprint following suit and getting rid of unlimited data within a year.
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They never once said it was a 4G fee, it has and always will be a "premium data fee", however people continue to say that it's a 4G fee because only "4G" phones had it at first.

DirtyShroomz said:
They never once said it was a 4G fee, it has and always will be a "premium data fee", however people continue to say that it's a 4G fee because only "4G" phones had it at first.
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If only 4G phones had it at first, then it's a 4G fee no matter how much you and Sprint try to sugarcoat it.
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detusueno said:
right now i'd rather have 4gb of constant 1-2 Mbps instead of the unlimited 500 kbps i get from sprint.
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AMEN!
I'll take a 4GB of consistantly fast data speed over a crappy unlimited 200 kbps (what i'm currently getting from sprint) any day of the week.

Verizon PRL Hack - Just Don't

I don't know how many of you have been kicked off for this (doubt anybody has as not one of you that do use the hack have ever potsed about it finally working) but please stop doing it, all youre doing is upping the costs for everyone. To get kicked off the network we all know you have to constantly roam (excessive roaming) however Sprint will still check and require proof of address to have your ETF waived, once they see you're constantly roaming in a coverage area you will still get stuck with the ETF. Just a heads up, we all complain about prices going up but there's also tons of people that participate in making costs go up.

DirtyShroomz said:
I don't know how many of you have been kicked off for this (doubt anybody has as not one of you that do use the hack have ever potsed about it finally working) but please stop doing it, all youre doing is upping the costs for everyone. To get kicked off the network we all know you have to constantly roam (excessive roaming) however Sprint will still check and require proof of address to have your ETF waived, once they see you're constantly roaming in a coverage area you will still get stuck with the ETF. Just a heads up, we all complain about prices going up but there's also tons of people that participate in making costs go up.
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Thanks for the info. Did not realize you were a sprint employee.
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I don't know about anyone else but I've been using this hack for months and don't have any roaming data. I know it's working or doing something because I notice a great deal of improvement in coverage.
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Sprint's data service is so bad that many find it as essential. If I pay $10 for a PREMIUM data add on, I expect premium data not 200-500 kbps. I've yet to do the PRL hack but everything is so damn slow. Downloading apps used to take a couple of seconds now it takes a couple of minutes.

Award Tour said:
Sprint's data service is so bad that many find it as essential. If I pay $10 for a PREMIUM data add on, I expect premium data not 200-500 kbps. I've yet to do the PRL hack but everything is so damn slow. Downloading apps used to take a couple of seconds now it takes a couple of minutes.
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I'm not talking about the speed, I have horrible speeds too for the past 2 months, i'm talking about people using it to get kicked off.

Rem3Dy said:
Do you really have evidence of this? Or are you just some disgruntled cheapskate passing off opinion as fact?
This really required its own thread? You are just screaming for attention aren't you.
BTW many people have posted about this actually getting sprint to cancel their account ETF free.
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What the hell are you talking about? Reading > You.

He's talking about people that use it to get out of paying the etf...for instance they download torrents 247 just to get excessive roam instead of just using it for Verizon coverage...I read it pretty clear, don't know what's wrong with everyone
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i totally 100% agree with the op

i kinda agree but then again i understand why they are doing it been fighting with data speeds to the point i thought about doing the prl hack to get released from my 5 phone contract

I just hate to see good things come to an end because of a select few. Prices are going to go up, no doubt, but there's no sense in having them go up faster. It's a lose-lose situation. Customers get less for their money and employee's get less (benefits).

so, what you're bringing to my attention is that there is a way to get out of my contract without an etf?
this is news to me and probably several others. I had no idea there was a vzw prl hack. can you explain in great detail how this is done and what I should search Google for?
oh wait I guess you just did in the OP.
thanks.
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thedudejdog said:
so, what you're bringing to my attention is that there is a way to get out of my contract without an etf?
this is news to me and probably several others. I had no idea there was a vzw prl hack. can you explain in great detail how this is done and what I should search Google for?
oh wait I guess you just did in the OP.
thanks.
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Reading > You.

DirtyShroomz said:
Reading > You.
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all i'm saying is if something is bad and you don't want people doing it, probably not the best idea to draw attention to it. just let it die.

thedudejdog said:
all i'm saying is if something is bad and you don't want people doing it, probably not the best idea to draw attention to it. just let it die.
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Or you can educate them that by doing this hack you won't be let go ETF free as proof of address is still required to have ETF waived.

can anyone give me a link on how to do this? I would love to test out the speeds on it

raul602 said:
can anyone give me a link on how to do this? I would love to test out the speeds on it
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http://tinyurl.com/47z9cbn

Although I see where you're going with this, we are a very small percentage of the Evo owners. And a smaller amount of rooted Evo owners that actually user this hack. I know quite a few Evo owners that don't even want to root their phone, one of them being my wife. If Sprint set their plans up like TMO, where I could bring a paid off phone to their network and pay less monthly since I wasn't on a subsidized phone then it would different. Rates are determined partially about how providers will recover phone costs, and that is the ETF (obviously), but what about all the people that have paid there phone off by contract and continue to pay the same rates. This came to my attention, or rather opened my eyes when I wanted to add my daughter on our family plan with a blackberry that I had laying around. And even though it was paid off, it still required a 2 year activation..WTF...i didn't understand when I wasn't buying a subsidized phone, since I wanted the ability to shut the phone off for grades, behavior, etc. I mean why would I be responsible for etf for a phone that wasn't subsidized. I wish a plan similar to TMO would come to other providers.
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mustangboy88 said:
Although I see where you're going with this, we are a very small percentage of the Evo owners. And a smaller amount of rooted Evo owners that actually user this hack. I know quite a few Evo owners that don't even want to root their phone, one of them being my wife. If Sprint set their plans up like TMO, where I could bring a paid off phone to their network and pay less monthly since I wasn't on a subsidized phone then it would different. Rates are determined about how providers will recover phone costs, and that is the ETF (obviously), but what about all the people that have paid there phone off by contract and continue to pay the same rates. This came to my attention, or rather opened my eyes when I wanted to add my daughter on our family plan with a blackberry that I had laying around. And even though it was paid off, it still required a 2 year activation..WTF...i didn't understand when I wasn't buying a subsidized phone, since I wanted the ability to shut the phone off for grades, behavior, etc. I mean why would I be responsible for etf for a phone that wasn't subsidized. I wish a plan similar to TMO would come to other providers.
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You can start a line without a contract if you bring your own phone, don't let anyone tell you any different.

I encourage you to call Sprint yourself and clarify that. That is not the case when adding a new line. I can activate a phone under my line and not affect my contract, but adding a line is different.
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mustangboy88 said:
I encourage you to call Sprint yourself and clarify that. That is not the case when adding a new line. I can activate a phone under my line and not affect my contract, but adding a line is different.
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I don't need to, I work there.

Potential Sprint and T-Mobile Merger?

I just read about this on the Washington Post. What are yall thoughts regarding a merger between T-mobile and Sprint?
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Personally, I think it sucks. Not sure how it could benefit the consumer, or the manufacturers... I don't like the idea of there only being 3 big players.... I dont like the idea of GSM/CDMA joining... not even sure how that would work.
Nothing seems beneficial....

This Will Not Be Good,
for 1, which system are they really going to end up using ? Sprint is CDMA my Bet this will be bad for the consumer
Mergers like these inevitably only benefit the Company not the consumer. Ever notice that when one company raises prices the other do so as well? The only "hold mechanism" that prevents this is rigorous competition. When there is only a duo or tri-opoloy then corporate price fixing becomes a sure thing. Remember when (maybe most are not old enough) cable TV was 10 major players, Now ? 3, and what happened as a result of all the mergers and acquisitions ? higher prices and less selection.
On another note : Do you remember SamsungJohn ? and his Great announcement, I wonder if this is it. If it is .........we're getting HOSED..............

I think its very good. as long as they provide the same plan after merger
anyways, Sprint is starting 4g rollout, which is nice for future.
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I heard about that a while ago too. Then there would be "the big three ". The question that comes to mind is, how does that benefit us? lower bills? Better phones? Better network?
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Be assured this isn't about what's best for the customers. It's about what's best for the companies staying profitable.
I don't see any personal benefit from it.
Most likely they'll keep the GSM and CDMA networks and gradually migrate everyone over to LTE.

Yeah, there is NO WAY this benefits the consumer. Likely less high-end phones (dont need as many rollouts/marketing involved)... less need for prices to stay low (since if all 3 started raising prices, the consumer has no choice).
I cant articulate just how much I hate the idea of it.

This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up

z0phi3l said:
This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up
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Yeah I've been hearing these rumors for over a year now.
Don't take away the great plans or SIMs and maybe we'll be good.

Oh no, Sprint just likes to ruin my mobile life I remember a few years back when I got my first Nextel and discovered Howard Forums. I loved my Nextels and learned to make some good money selling customized Nextels & parting out the LE phones. Then the rumors came about the Sprint Nextel merger. They destroyed Nextel. I went back to TMobile and now this again! Capitalism at it's best.

Lets see, best customer satisfaction? T mobile
Best prices? T mobile
Acceptable service? T mobile
Family friendly plans? T mobile
Unlimited cheap data? T mobile
Open architecture? Gsm phones, unlocked phones compatibility?
T mobile
yet the company is suffering from losses.
What's wrong with people?
Why would anyone support verizon or at&t
If people supported tmobile, this would never happen
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metro pcs here i come lol

Most people are stuck on tmobile and the voicestream days. Tmobile has always gotten knocked for its service... But honestly ive been a customer since 2000 and have noticed the serice is now on par with verizon. Priblem is people arent smart, and most people stay with verizon because they have that "can u hear me now?" **** and also because they advertise like madmen.
isnt tmo owned by deutschtelecom also?
And also I dont see how a merger between 2 companies using 2 different cell technologies will be beneficial. Ifanything tmobile should juststick with offering the cheapest plans and best customer service and slowly but surely you will see people migrate over slower...
Tmobile really doesnt offer anything special anymore, nd customer service definantly went downhill from what it used to be.
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z0phi3l said:
This is the third or fourth time the rumors of this merger have popped up
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these rumors have been going around for years. it wouldn't really make sense, either. their networks are incompatible, and tmob has been spending a **** ton of money on their network.

Now i know why tmobile isn't bashing sprint in their commercials.
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jwleonhart said:
Most people are stuck on tmobile and the voicestream days. Tmobile has always gotten knocked for its service... But honestly ive been a customer since 2000 and have noticed the serice is now on par with verizon. Priblem is people arent smart, and most people stay with verizon because they have that "can u hear me now?" **** and also because they advertise like madmen.
isnt tmo owned by deutschtelecom also?
And also I dont see how a merger between 2 companies using 2 different cell technologies will be beneficial. Ifanything tmobile should juststick with offering the cheapest plans and best customer service and slowly but surely you will see people migrate over slower...
Tmobile really doesnt offer anything special anymore, nd customer service definantly went downhill from what it used to be.
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Good service is geographical. I live in LA and my service is very spotty. I worked for T-mobile for almost 4.5 years and my reception changed everytime I moved. Right now it is absolutely horrible but I stay on because I have a good price.
After reading a few articles about the potential merger I get the idea that they are not looking to integrate their systems but cut the operations cost that they are incurring, at least for the near short term. In reality it is not written anywhere that if two companies merge they must use one system or another. It would be a major game changer for both of these companies to merge and still use each carriers network (talk about flexibility). Regardless if they companies merge though prices will continue to go up. Data has become such a big commodity that people are willing to pay more for it regardless of who they have.
Cliffnotes: In my opinion they will only be merging operations for the first few years to cut costs, see which provider can retain the most amount of customers and go from there.

Is sprint even as big as tmobile is? Its sad that all these companies are trying to charge as much as possible for data...
And my biggest problem with tmobile is I pay an additional 20 bucks for my data service... And its supposedly unlimited.. But the minute I hit that 5gb cap I get slowed to literally dial up speed... Thanks tmobile!!! So the data really isnt unlimited, and I cant even purchase more bandwith
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jwleonhart said:
Is sprint even as big as tmobile is? Its sad that all these companies are trying to charge as much as possible for data...
And my biggest problem with tmobile is I pay an additional 20 bucks for my data service... And its supposedly unlimited.. But the minute I hit that 5gb cap I get slowed to literally dial up speed... Thanks tmobile!!! So the data really isnt unlimited, and I cant even purchase more bandwith
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Agreed, its tricky advertising regarding unlimited data. But that's the best you can get in USA . At least they don't charge for excess data past 5GB. No one offers unlimited data for that price. For example AT&T offers 2GB for $20 you are paying plus an additional $5, not to mention overage fees...

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Agreed, its tricky advertising regarding unlimited data. But that's the best you can get in USA . At least they don't charge for excess data past 5GB. No one offers unlimited data for that price. For example AT&T offers 2GB for $20 you are paying plus an additional $5, not to mention overage fees...
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And this is exactly why people dont join tmobile... Make the bandwidth unlimited for like 25 buxs... And then advertise that you really give unlimited compared to what att and verizon do...
If you want to suceed you have to stand out... And tmobile barely stands out, and I beieve sprints plans are the cheapest
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jwleonhart said:
And this is exactly why people dont join tmobile... Make the bandwidth unlimited for like 25 buxs... And then advertise that you really give unlimited compared to what att and verizon do...
If you want to suceed you have to stand out... And tmobile barely stands out, and I beieve sprints plans are the cheapest
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Actually it is unlimited. Speed is limited to 3/4-g until 5GB, then throttled, can't really complain for that. I'd take this over $500 or so extra per GB of ATT overage

Message from Sprint about Tethering

From 4483:
SprintFreeMsg: Turn your Epic 4G into a Wi-Fi router and connect up to 5 devices with Sprint Mobile Hotspot. http://sprint.us/hs2 Reply END to stop
3:12PM, Apr 5
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What's the point to this thread
We already know that
I believe it was advertised that our phones could do that
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I thought it was similar to ATT catching on to people illegally tethering

Threads dead baby, threads dead!!!!
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I thought it was similar to ATT catching on to people illegally tethering
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Based on what? The fact that they were making you aware of a feature on your phone?

Hotspot is expensive but it blows away Wifi Tether in its current state. My ROM choices get limited because its disabled on most
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I'd be more willing to pay for this if 4g was available in my area. I live 30 minutes outside NYC in long island and there's 0 4g coverage. Nothing and no ETA on a rollout from sprint. I happily use wifi tether for when I'm out and about and need it for my laptop, but I'm not going to pay the equivalent of my home internet connection so I can have my devices running on 3g

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I'd be more willing to pay for this if 4g was available in my area. I live 30 minutes outside NYC in long island and there's 0 4g coverage. Nothing and no ETA on a rollout from sprint. I happily use wifi tether for when I'm out and about and need it for my laptop, but I'm not going to pay the equivalent of my home internet connection so I can have my devices running on 3g
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Yeah, if I didn't have 4G I would stay away too. The 4G makes a big difference
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I think sprint should offer tethering for an addtional 10 bucks a month on top of our smartphone tax then i think more people would buy it, i would personally rather dealing with the adhoc one or the annoyingness of the wifi tether one.

30 bucks extra a month is insane. Its all about greed though
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30 bucks extra a month is insane. Its all about greed though
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Why do you say it is about greed? A company sets a price based upon what they think will bring in the best profit. Clearly the more they charge the fewer people will sign up. I don't see how deciding that $30/month is the right balance makes them any more greedy than any other amount they decide upon. If too few people sign up at $30, they might lower it to $20. Would lowering the price to increase profit be considered greedy?

Well that's great..
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Uh oh... see what u did? Now you got the share holders involved!

I don't now or have I ever tethered with my epic, and I got that text too. Don't worry op, they aren't on to ya!
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I have no Faux G coverage in my area, and I don't use Wifi Tether more than once every other month, so I see zero reason why I should pay $30 extra for it. When I do use it, it's usually about 500k down and 150k up so it's definitely not worth paying for.
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Think I'm going to have to agree, if I had 4g in my area, I really think I might fork up some money to actually let my home DSL go and just use my phone to tether what I need within the house. Otherwise, I'm not paying for crappy 3g tethering speeds on their hotspot app, when I can do it for free. I rarely use it anyway, just when I need the internet when working on a computer that doesn't have an ISP.

Useless crying wolf thread. Close it down.

Yeah I got the spam text on stock unrooted ec05. I also got a spam text on "congrats on your new epic 4g phone!" Imo, stupid.
I normally overlook the trolls and snide remarks in forums, but I have to say something. The Epic 4g forum subsection has the most, of the subsections I frequent, amount of butt-heads, smart-asses, trolls, impatient, and just plain old people that lack manners in a public forum that I've ever seen. Sometimes people get quite vicious and spiteful with their comments. I am not a saint by any means. I've said things that I later thought that might not have been cool and said when I was in a bad mood. Forum moderators, man, the stuff you put up with.....

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musclehead84 said:
30 bucks extra a month is insane. Its all about greed though
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What's wrong with greed? Sprint is doing everything it can to stay in business, so every dime counts. They are in business to make money, just like pretty much every other company out there. Quite frankly, I don't know of any NFP mobile service providers, do you?
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Why do you say it is about greed? A company sets a price based upon what they think will bring in the best profit. Clearly the more they charge the fewer people will sign up. I don't see how deciding that $30/month is the right balance makes them any more greedy than any other amount they decide upon. If too few people sign up at $30, they might lower it to $20. Would lowering the price to increase profit be considered greedy?
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QFE
mi7chy said:
Useless crying wolf thread. Close it down.
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The OP maybe. There is an interesting discussion here about the validity of companies charging extra for this service. That is the real question here, especially in light of the industry seeming to want to crack down rooting - that whole effort seems to be largely based on stuff like this.

FCC wants your feedback on Tmobile buyout by AT&T

Guys,
FCC is looking for the opinions from general people like us on the T-mobile-ATT deal. Checkout the links for more info :
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/04/make-your-voice-heard-tell-the-fcc-how-you-feel/
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/30/fcc-wants-your-input-on-the-t-mobile-buyout/
This is a great opportunity to fight the greedy At&t and stop the GSM monopoly in USA

Thanks for the heads up! Done.

I think its a bunch of bs. Its just them making us think we have a voice in this whole ordeal; in the end
this is big business and it all boils down to dollars. Just a masquerade.
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Awh I posted about this before you did lol I guess my title was bad
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duboi97 said:
Awh I posted about this before you did lol I guess my title was bad
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I think I posted 56 mins before you did
Let's hope this deal fails

I honestly dont care. I moved to tmobile to get away from the lies, trickery, and robbery. Turns out they are a company just like att with worse service.
I was made many promises before my contract, not one of them were true. Now I'm locked in my contract and they won't even try to make anything right even though all the proof given. They just say, "sorry there is nothing we can do for you, and we are not obligated to fulfill the promises the representatives gave you. We are truly sorry you were lied to."
I've heard that line 8 times from managers! I've given up, I'm finishing up my contract or canceling when the money becomes available and moving to verizon. At least ill have the services I pay for.
So far I've noticed that most companies dont care about right or wrong, only who gets the benefits. Sooner this is learned, the less hard life will be.
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Darksurf said:
I honestly dont care. I moved to tmobile to get away from the lies, trickery, and robbery. Turns out they are a company just like att with worse service.
I was made many promises before my contract, not one of them were true. Now I'm locked in my contract and they won't even try to make anything right even though all the proof given. They just say, "sorry there is nothing we can do for you, and we are not obligated to fulfill the promises the representatives gave you. We are truly sorry you were lied to."
I've heard that line 8 times from managers! I've given up, I'm finishing up my contract or canceling when the money becomes available and moving to verizon. At least ill have the services I pay for.
So far I've noticed that most companies dont care about right or wrong, only who gets the benefits. Sooner this is learned, the less hard life will be.
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Made me stop reading right there.

sahil04 said:
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AT&T may have bad customer service, but their coverage sure wrecks T-Mobile's.
I borrowed my friend's SIM a few weeks ago when I was going on a trip to Washington DC (from Dallas), and I wanted to have 3G where we went.
My mom's Vibrant, was constantly losing 3G signal.
My Vibrant, running on the 1900 band on AT&T, lost 3G signal ONCE for about 15 seconds, then came back.
Only thing with AT&T is, that their plans are expensive
(funny story, I went to a AT&T store to see how much a plan would be with them, and apparently, their texting plan offers unlimited Mobile to Mobile (who uses land lines except doctors, and offices?), and for 700 minutes, unlimited texting (with basically unlimited minutes), and 2GB data (never go over 1GB anyways, and I save $5!), I would pay $150 for 2 lines. That is $110 off what I pay now with T-Mo, and that's a DAMN good save)
and their customer service is bad.
They aren't that bad, and I am switching to AT&T because of that story.