AT&T Can't See us Tethering *PIC* - Atrix 4G General

So I was reading around and found that AT&T only claims that your tethering when you have been using A LOT of data.
The picture below is of a guys iPhone 4 that has been using a lot of data but is charged for "tethering", even though his tethering usage is at 0.
*This fact has been stated before, just wanted to show proof*

It's nice to know that they can't see us tethering, but if you look closly, that usage hasent been reset since july of last year... so that is about 9 months.
UNLESS I'm wrong about the way the usage chart works on the iPhone (used to own a 3GS) that is a commulative amount over the period of time. If you think about it, it isn't that much data a month. Now I MAY be wrong. But I'm pretty sure I'm right...
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Tylerjd said:
It's nice to know that they can't see us tethering, but if you look closly, that usage hasent been reset since july of last year... so that is about 9 months.
UNLESS I'm wrong about the way the usage chart works on the iPhone (used to own a 3GS) that is a commulative amount over the period of time. If you think about it, it isn't that much data a month. Now I MAY be wrong. But I'm pretty sure I'm right...
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I see what you mean, but the fact is, is that he has 0b for Tethering, which is a good sign.

Well from what I remember from AT&T sending out all those notices, they just threw them at everyone that had large amounts of data, no matter if they actually tethered or not, and many people had confirmed that at the time.

KefkaticFanatic said:
Well from what I remember from AT&T sending out all those notices, they just threw them at everyone that had large amounts of data, no matter if they actually tethered or not, and many people had confirmed that at the time.
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Yeah true. AT&T is just trying to scare people...

... his reception says 3 Mobile.
EDIT: Oh and he is jailbroken, he is probably using MyWi Tethering from cydia/rock store.

Chubby_Skunk said:
So I was reading around and found that AT&T only claims that your tethering when you have been using A LOT of data.
The picture below is of a guys iPhone 4 that has been using a lot of data but is charged for "tethering", even though his tethering usage is at 0.
*This fact has been stated before, just wanted to show proof*
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Where is the cell bill showing the charges for tethering?
All I see there is a screenshot showing data usage.

DarkRyoushii said:
... his reception says 3 Mobile.
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Chubby _Skunk please stop starting USELESS threads!!!! The guy doesn't even use AT&T.

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Tethering?

Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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scr3wy said:
Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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as long as t-mobile doesn't catch you. yes it's free.
scr3wy said:
Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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IMO, it would count towards your data usage so it should cost if not on unlimited plan.
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IMO, it would count towards your data usage so it should cost if not on unlimited plan.
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Even with the unlimited plans, T-mobile requires the tethering feature to be added. As was stated before, it's free until they catch it.
Tethering is extra on top of unlimited data.
Change your user agent on your computer to android, ie mobile, or iphone,etc etc and you are good to go.
I have not been caught yet. I did receive a txt before I changed user agent though.
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I been using tethering on my phone since day one and I have never gotten charged for it. I use it intensively. It will use data though. You gotta watch out for the 5gb cap.
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Alrighty tanks for the info
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so rooting and using an app is not required? For USB tethering that is
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Does cm7 USB or wireless tethering cost extra on ur bill?
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Wireless tethering is included with the [MyTouch 4G] phone, per 2 T-Mobile reps, one who checked in to it after I told her what I had heard from the first. I asked her to annotate my record (case, ticket) Just In Case. 2 different reps said that tethering was not included, and was an extra cost. I didn't press them as I was calling about something unrelated.
I have tethered without charge and without problems before and after rooting/installing CM7. I don't tether much, but never hesitate when it is handy. My total usage is well under 5GB/month, FWIW.
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Wireless tethering is included with the phone, per 2 T-Mobile reps, one who checked in to it after I told her what I had heard from the first. I asked her to annotate my record (case, ticket) Just In Case. FWIW.
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They are right, but it's just like GM cars come included with ONstar but it'll cost you. There is no switch or button they can push to allow the tethering to continue after the message comes up unless you have the feature added. You can ask for supervisor, supervisor's supervisor, etc. but it's an automatic system programming. Before last December there was no tethering feature but it was also against the terms & conditions of T-mobile to tether and still is in there but now they have the feature.
Some people have found changing the user agent ID as a solution, don't know but using it regularly can definitely lead to the message and there's no options after that but to quit tethering or purchase the feature.
I've been tethering for the past 2 weeks now because I just moved into a new place and haven't been able to switch my internet over just yet. I haven't seen any changes in my bill, nor recieved any text messages from T-Mobile regarding tethering charges. I'm using CM7 and no other tethering apps. I haven't changed any user agents except on my phone's browser, and I changed it from Android to desktop. So far I've used 33,152.81 Mb (a lot of netflix streaming) according to the T-Mobile website. Although I've been throttled, it's not too bad because I'm in a 4G area and still getting around 2 Mbps.
themarshal80 said:
Although I've been throttled, it's not too bad because I'm in a 4G area and still getting around 2 Mbps.
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if you are seeing 2Mb download speed you are not throttled. Throttled speeds are around 56k, or about the same as EDGE.
neidlinger said:
if you are seeing 2Mb download speed you are not throttled. Throttled speeds are around 56k, or about the same as EDGE.
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Well I recieved a text message from T-Mobile that I have been, and I usually get around 4-6 Mb at my new place.
themarshal80 said:
Well I recieved a text message from T-Mobile that I have been, and I usually get around 4-6 Mb at my new place.
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they haven't tethered you yet then. according to their TOS, tethered speeds are around EDGE.
Consider yourself lucky..
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they haven't tethered you yet then. according to their TOS, tethered speeds are around EDGE.
Consider yourself lucky..
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Yup. I pretty sure it's because I'm using CM7 and not the official stock app. Either way, this is just my temporary setup. Once I get my internet up and running I won't be tethering too much. It's nice to know that I can though.
when i get throttled my speeds drop so slow, noticably slower in web browsing
lucky you, it'd be nice to have 2mb download still
Tethering has been enabled on my phone since I got it, without it even being rooted it has the wifi hotspot option, and I don't remember there being an extra charge on my bill for it...and yes it works fine.
I don't know where some folks are getting there info. T-mobile does not charge for tethering. I tether every day on my Mytouch 4g and never been charged for tethering. Ive been doing this since Jan.
smooth3d said:
I don't know where some folks are getting there info. T-mobile does not charge for tethering. I tether every day on my Mytouch 4g and never been charged for tethering. Ive been doing this since Jan.
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According to their TOS they do charge for it. Read it sometime.
neidlinger said:
According to their TOS they do charge for it. Read it sometime.
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Where do I find this TOS? Because like I mentioned before, I also use my tether everyday, and for hours! I dont get charged any tether fees. My data usage does go down hill though.
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[Q] MyTouch 4G unlimited 4G?

I've been looking over a few threads here about the soft data caps that T-Mobile uses. I'm aware about how it works and everything but I've found something kind of odd. I've seen a couple of posts about other people having some success with it.
Over the past 3 or 4 months my phone has been my primary internet connection by using the hotspot feature. This phone is completely stock (non rooted, no custom roms, etc) and within a few days of my new billing cycle I would hit the 5GB data limit for my plan. Out of frustration I turned off WCDMA/GSM auto to GSM to see if it would work faster. I turned it back to auto after a day or two and found that I had been un-throttled. I would check the My Account app on my phone and it would state that I had been throttled but everything is working on 4G speeds.
So this month just out of curiosity I've been using as much data as possible just to see if anything will be done. I'm not trying to be a data hog or anything, this is just out of curiosity. I'm 7 days into my billing cycle and have used over 22 gigs and still going strong. I'm currently streaming Netflix in HD and have two laptops and another smart phone using the data.
Does anyone know if I'll see a cease and desist letter from T-Mobile or if anything at all will happen?
Side note: This phone/T-Mobile has really surprised me with the speeds and capabilities it has. I used an iPhone4 with AT&T to stream Netflix and the quality and buffering was horrendous in comparison.
This sounds extremely beautiful to me as I bought the 10$ 200mb and I blow through that in less then a day. If this works you would not believe how happy this would make me. As for T-Mobile doing a cease and desist order I would highly doubt it. When I had a T-Mobile dash 2 years ago, without a data plan I was able to connect to the internet free of charge, and I would watch youtube Justin.tv and so on. I did this for almost 1 and a half years and have seen nothing from T-Mobile.
so basically, all you did was turn it to only GSM for a day or two, and then back on and the throttle went away?
Im gonna try the same thing and see what kinda speeds im getting after I turn it back on. 5gigs goes really quick and throttled speeds suck, Drives me crazy.. Ill get back with my results..
Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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Haha I remember this hack from the G1 days, when people used over 2gb data at that time. It actually works, it tricks the system I guess. I thought tmo patched it.
I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Since it is decided on their side i don't think they will try any legal action or whatever against you, happy throttling
Staplerz83 said:
I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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/Settings/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Network Mode. Then select GSM only
thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
Staplerz83 said:
thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
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i dont remember stock rom having the 2g option so...yea
What phone are you currently using?
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Just an update on my usage. I've attached a screenshot of the amount of data that I've used so far from the monitor usage section of mytmobile.com
Also a speedtest that I ran just now just to see what it's running at. Right now usually seems around peak time, the ping and download speed is usually a bit faster at night.
TJBunch1228 said:
Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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That's what I was going to have to do to try to avoid being throttled. If you get a chance to try it out let me know what happens.
If anyone else does want to try this if you could let me know what happens. Also if you could let me know the phone model, current data plan, and anything else that you think may be important. I'm curious to know if it is my phone, the MyTouch 4G's in general, or what. I don't know anyone else with a smart phone with T-Mobile that cares about this so if anyone could provide any feedback on this it would be great.
My refill minutes and data just started today and I'm already at 1 gig will probably report back next Sunday
I have gotten the "5gb throttle" text from T-Mobile a couple times but I have never been throttled and that's without doing this "trick". I've never done anything and still seem to not get throttled even tho I've gotten the texts saying they were going to throttle me for the remainder of my cycle. It did it on my MT4G and its also doing it on my Sensation now. Maybe I'm just lucky.
*knocks on wood*
Im trying this asap...I run a shoutcast radio station (limbik frequencies if anyone cares to know) and I drive a truck all night so have been listening via the 4g while i drive...needless to say I run out of data in no time. Even if I upgraded to the 5gb plan (which is the highest they offer me) I'd still run out...1mb per minute, 5-9 hours a night....doesn't add up right! Worst part is that its a nonprofit station that AOL pays for our bandwidth to stream...seriously I shouldn't have to pay out the ass to make sure its running and simultaneously enjoy it!

IPhone + AT&T = EPIC FAIL

Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
{ParanoiA} said:
Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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Wait... so you're saying that you tether for free via root without paying? You're happy about that?
You do realize that Sprint's 3G network is PATHETICALLY slow? The slowest of the big four by a pretty healthy margin. So you're advocating overloading an already overloaded network without contributing to a damn near profitless company?
No, I actually don't use tethering. I'm just pointing out that I am happy to have Sprint. I'm sure many people do though. Why would I use my phone to tether when I can have speeds like this? That would be dumb.
http://results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/81220912.png
{ParanoiA} said:
No, I actually don't use tethering. I'm just pointing out that I am happy to have Sprint. I'm sure many people do though. Why would I use my phone to tether when I can have speeds like this? That would be dumb.
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did you notice that I said advocating?
@{ParanoiA} I'm warning you, it's pointless.
Trolling aside...
{ParanoiA} said:
Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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It's only the beginning.
I'm also happy that I pay the one company that stands alone on what I believe is "right"
Edit: Don't recall where anyone said stealing was okay.
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@{ParanoiA} I'm warning you, it's pointless.
Trolling aside...
It's only the beginning.
I'm also happy that I pay the one company that stands alone on what I believe is "right"
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
I saw an article somewhere that said Verizon was doing this also. Something about someone using a Droid x got re-directed to some Verizon site to add tether.
Edit: here is the article
http://m.bgr.com/2011/08/08/verizon-hops-on-ban-wagon-blocks-unauthorized-tetherers/
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
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I'm paying for unlimited data and I should be able to use the data that I am paying for however I want to use it, which includes tethering. Asking for an $30 extra charge for an arbitrary usage of data is what I would call stealing.
iwin2000 said:
I'm paying for unlimited data and I should be able to use the data that I am paying for however I want to use it, which includes tethering. Asking for an $30 extra charge for an arbitrary usage of data is what I would call stealing.
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You're paying for data, on your PHONE not to be shared with whatever other device you have, this is not a home ISP. That's like saying you're paying $50 a week for unlimited gas but you are filling up every car in your neighborhood. Not only will this cause gas prices to go up because you're abusing it but will also put an end to others getting this deal. Shame that people don't see this.
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Wait... so you're saying that you tether for free via root without paying? You're happy about that?
You do realize that Sprint's 3G network is PATHETICALLY slow? The slowest of the big four by a pretty healthy margin. So you're advocating overloading an already overloaded network without contributing to a damn near profitless company?
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Since when is 23 million in profit for 2010 considered near profitless? Soon they will make more when people finally leave at&t.
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I am a former att customer that received that letter and warning. The only thing is I never teather! Ever! I have had an iphone, but years ago. I was at the time using a htc inspire on the unlimited. I use roughly 4-6gb a month on just my phone. I think why people are getting these is cause the amount of data people are using. I'm pretty sure that's why I got one. Just not really sure if they can really tell if your teathering or just basing it off usage.
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Really it should be one or the other. Data cap or no tethering. If you are capped st 2gb who the hell cares if you tether. You go over it's your ass. If you have unlimited data and tether your laptop to run netflix and torrent the latest movies using 15gb+ every month then you deserve a kick in the balls.
I don't mind sprint's 30$ tether charge. it makes sense on an unlimited plan. if I need internet on other devices it's not a bad option for someone who wouldn't want to sign another contact for internet. And the 1mbps or so 3g I get here ain't bad for that.
I don't need it though and have used root to tether for free and though I have downloaded a couple movies with it (at the horrible 50-100kbps 3g in new mexico) I have yet to exceed 5gb.
I don't condemn using over 10gb a month on occasion but to consistently abuse sprint's unlimited data is just out right stealing.
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Since when is 23 million in profit for 2010 considered near profitless? Soon they will make more when people finally leave at&t.
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Are you serious? LOL!
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
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Did someone hurt your feelings or something. Do you work for Att? Then why does someone posting negative articles about them bother you so much? Oh and what ****ty Sprint speeds are you talking about? My speeds are damn fast.
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You're paying for data, on your PHONE not to be shared with whatever other device you have, this is not a home ISP. That's like saying you're paying $50 a week for unlimited gas but you are filling up every car in your neighborhood. Not only will this cause gas prices to go up because you're abusing it but will also put an end to others getting this deal. Shame that people don't see this.
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BS comparison. I usually agree with you but not on tethering I guess.
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Did someone hurt your feelings or something. Do you work for Att? Then why does someone posting negative articles about them bother you so much? Oh and what ****ty Sprint speeds are you talking about? My speeds are damn fast.
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Your small little observation means very little. A recent nationwide speed test found Sprint to be nearly dead last with all carriers, not just the big four.
Why am I mad? There was a day when Sprint used to do 1.5-2+ Mbps with ease in NYC. Ease. Sprints network is having a crunch right now and I'm lucky to get 750 kbps now. All you freeloading bastards aren't helping.
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BS comparison. I usually agree with you but not on tethering I guess.
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His comparison is right. Mobile data isn't finite. Its significantly more limited than land data. Control is needed to maintain a fast, stable mobile network. A network with unlimited data is no different and needs more control if anything. Your paying for service on your phone and nothing more.
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Your small little observation means very little. A recent nationwide speed test found Sprint to be nearly dead last with all carriers, not just the big four.
Why am I mad? There was a day when Sprint used to do 1.5-2+ Mbps with ease in NYC. Ease. Sprints network is having a crunch right now and I'm lucky to get 750 kbps now. All you freeloading bastards aren't helping.
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Nationwide speed tests mean nothing to me, as I only plan on using my phone in limited areas anyway. This is why you should always test drive the network for the 30 days they give you, not just pick a phone on any carrier.
My speeds are consistently above 1mbps here in the Seattle area, not EVERYWHERE is having issues although it seems there are a lot who do.
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Nationwide speed tests mean nothing to me, as I only plan on using my phone in limited areas anyway. This is why you should always test drive the network for the 30 days they give you, not just pick a phone on any carrier.
My speeds are consistently above 1mbps here in the Seattle area, not EVERYWHERE is having issues although it seems there are a lot who do.
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They tested pretty much all major cities. None averaged more than 1 mbps but its worth noting that they hit peaks of over 2 mbps. The thing is that I can say that I hit 1.x mbps in NYC, and I have, but my average experience is significantly slower than that.
This test showed that not only were Sprints peaks slower but their averages were too. And this is in pretty much all major cities.
Their nationwide average taken from the testing of most major cities put Sprint in nearly last. This wasn't the first time they did these tests either. What this showed is that Sprint slowed significantly year to year.
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Nuff said. But just in case.
short: It's not "theft of service". Sorry. Nothing is being stolen (go look up what steal/theft means). You might however, be in breach of contract. That's about it.

[Q] Wifi tether uses what kind of sprint data?

I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)
styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
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sapperpipo said:
I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
jemajun000 said:
I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
dtugg said:
False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
murso74 said:
didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
ArchangelRenzoku said:
In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.

Wait for Journal or go with ATT

So with VZ about to double data(again!), I have been thinking of getting a GNex with 5GB(or 10 since double), so if the Journal comes, Id have a great plan. Should I do that or get the ATT and get the 5GB plan? I hate that the only messaging option is 20$, and employee discounts do not help.
Thank you in advance!
One thing i learnt over the last decade using cell phone, gsm phone always resells easier, faster and at higher price compares to cdma. That's why i never go the verizon route. And do u really need over 5gb data? Sure 10 is great but unless u carry 3 battery around all the time and not using wifi at home, there is no way u can burn through 5gb data per month .
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oh better believe some people burn through tons of gigs per month. If you stream netflix videos, tether your phone as a hotspot, etc. Then it is possible.
adelmundo said:
oh better believe some people burn through tons of gigs per month. If you stream netflix videos, tether your phone as a hotspot, etc. Then it is possible.
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Yeah ive been using 4-5gb month since 2008. Probably alot more includong wifi. Since my window mobile days.
To op, like the above poster said gsm has better resale value. If signal quality isnt a issue att would be the better choice. Besides there bias with iphone, ive been a happy customer since 08.
If you want unlimited data, you can check if the iphone 2g trick still works.
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I have the same problem right now. But seeing as I'm willing to believe that the journal will come to verizon soon hopefully, I'm willing to wait.
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OP, you may get more interest in this topic at the "AT&T Galaxy Note" forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
voxano said:
OP, you may get more interest in this topic at the "AT&T Galaxy Note" forum...
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Where is the att note forum?I dont see it on the xda app
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
voxano said:
OP, you may get more interest in this topic at the "AT&T Galaxy Note" forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
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Can you please move it if it is appro?
intruda119 said:
Yeah ive been using 4-5gb month since 2008. Probably alot more includong wifi. Since my window mobile days.
To op, like the above poster said gsm has better resale value. If signal quality isnt a issue att would be the better choice. Besides there bias with iphone, ive been a happy customer since 08.
If you want unlimited data, you can check if the iphone 2g trick still works.
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Im in NYC, so people are telling me not to get ATT.
I may blow throw the Limit, im on TMO never came close to the soft cap, but I am installing an Ipad in my car and would like to stream movies/videos w/e thru the note.
I want the 10 just because its a GOOD deal, would kick myself if I get the ATT, dont pick up a VZ phone with the double data, then the note comes out on VZ and i coulda had double the data!
I think I will pre-order and test for 30 days. If VZ had this deal before, theny may have again!
Does the Verizon loophole still work if you get the 4g hotspot, they give you unlimited data?
adelmundo said:
Does the Verizon loophole still work if you get the 4g hotspot, they give you unlimited data?
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No they closed the loop and now going back and auditing those that pulled the hotspot after it gave them unlimited.
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I have 450 min and lowest ATT data plan an have unlimited data using Sprints MiFi at $35mo. Don't dis Sprints Wimax. Here in Chicago its consistently faster than ATT's Hspa+, and downloads big sites faster than LTE devices at ATT or Verizon.
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Btw ...whats the Journal ? VU phone?
rockky said:
[/COLOR]Btw ...whats the Journal ? VU phone?
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The Verizon version of the Note, should it come out(I think it will, hence the question/anxiety).
Most important is whether at&t works ok in your area. If it's tolerable with its overall coverage and data speeds, I'd say go for the at&t Note.
Don't be surprised if the Journal for VZW doesn't come out until like this summer at the earliest.
I'm basing this off the 9 month span it took the Thunderbolt to come out after the EVO was originally released for Sprint.
Problem is both at&t and VZW fell into the bad habit of taking forever to release phones. Culprits being long iPhone exclusivity for at&t....and OG Droid being a hit for VZW.
got556 said:
No they closed the loop and now going back and auditing those that pulled the hotspot after it gave them unlimited.
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But IF they keep the 4G hotspot and not remove it after they got unlimited data, then the unlimited data still sticks?
adelmundo said:
But IF they keep the 4G hotspot and not remove it after they got unlimited data, then the unlimited data still sticks?
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I believe so.
if youre worried about data usage, just wait for the vzw version. ATT only offers you 3gb/mo + $10 per gb beyond that. I personally dont think the note is worth jumping ship over, especially since the journal will come out. It will have LTE as well.
How long will this double data promo last?

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