[Q] MyTouch 4G unlimited 4G? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been looking over a few threads here about the soft data caps that T-Mobile uses. I'm aware about how it works and everything but I've found something kind of odd. I've seen a couple of posts about other people having some success with it.
Over the past 3 or 4 months my phone has been my primary internet connection by using the hotspot feature. This phone is completely stock (non rooted, no custom roms, etc) and within a few days of my new billing cycle I would hit the 5GB data limit for my plan. Out of frustration I turned off WCDMA/GSM auto to GSM to see if it would work faster. I turned it back to auto after a day or two and found that I had been un-throttled. I would check the My Account app on my phone and it would state that I had been throttled but everything is working on 4G speeds.
So this month just out of curiosity I've been using as much data as possible just to see if anything will be done. I'm not trying to be a data hog or anything, this is just out of curiosity. I'm 7 days into my billing cycle and have used over 22 gigs and still going strong. I'm currently streaming Netflix in HD and have two laptops and another smart phone using the data.
Does anyone know if I'll see a cease and desist letter from T-Mobile or if anything at all will happen?
Side note: This phone/T-Mobile has really surprised me with the speeds and capabilities it has. I used an iPhone4 with AT&T to stream Netflix and the quality and buffering was horrendous in comparison.

This sounds extremely beautiful to me as I bought the 10$ 200mb and I blow through that in less then a day. If this works you would not believe how happy this would make me. As for T-Mobile doing a cease and desist order I would highly doubt it. When I had a T-Mobile dash 2 years ago, without a data plan I was able to connect to the internet free of charge, and I would watch youtube Justin.tv and so on. I did this for almost 1 and a half years and have seen nothing from T-Mobile.

so basically, all you did was turn it to only GSM for a day or two, and then back on and the throttle went away?

Im gonna try the same thing and see what kinda speeds im getting after I turn it back on. 5gigs goes really quick and throttled speeds suck, Drives me crazy.. Ill get back with my results..

Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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Haha I remember this hack from the G1 days, when people used over 2gb data at that time. It actually works, it tricks the system I guess. I thought tmo patched it.

I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.

Staplerz83 said:
I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Sure. Type *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer. From in there you can choose GSM only.
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Since it is decided on their side i don't think they will try any legal action or whatever against you, happy throttling

Staplerz83 said:
I've searched everywhere and can't find the setting, could someone shed some light.
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/Settings/Wireless & Networks/Mobile Networks/Network Mode. Then select GSM only

thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?

Staplerz83 said:
thats the first place I looked but to no avail, I can't seem to find the network modes but the *#4636#*#* works just fine, has anyone found this method to work?
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i dont remember stock rom having the 2g option so...yea

What phone are you currently using?
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Just an update on my usage. I've attached a screenshot of the amount of data that I've used so far from the monitor usage section of mytmobile.com
Also a speedtest that I ran just now just to see what it's running at. Right now usually seems around peak time, the ping and download speed is usually a bit faster at night.

TJBunch1228 said:
Subscribing to this... I just got a throttle boner. If this turns out to work for other folks I will seriously **** my pants. I had to upgrade to the $60 10gb plan bc I have been using this as my primary internet.
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That's what I was going to have to do to try to avoid being throttled. If you get a chance to try it out let me know what happens.

If anyone else does want to try this if you could let me know what happens. Also if you could let me know the phone model, current data plan, and anything else that you think may be important. I'm curious to know if it is my phone, the MyTouch 4G's in general, or what. I don't know anyone else with a smart phone with T-Mobile that cares about this so if anyone could provide any feedback on this it would be great.

My refill minutes and data just started today and I'm already at 1 gig will probably report back next Sunday

I have gotten the "5gb throttle" text from T-Mobile a couple times but I have never been throttled and that's without doing this "trick". I've never done anything and still seem to not get throttled even tho I've gotten the texts saying they were going to throttle me for the remainder of my cycle. It did it on my MT4G and its also doing it on my Sensation now. Maybe I'm just lucky.
*knocks on wood*

Im trying this asap...I run a shoutcast radio station (limbik frequencies if anyone cares to know) and I drive a truck all night so have been listening via the 4g while i drive...needless to say I run out of data in no time. Even if I upgraded to the 5gb plan (which is the highest they offer me) I'd still run out...1mb per minute, 5-9 hours a night....doesn't add up right! Worst part is that its a nonprofit station that AOL pays for our bandwidth to stream...seriously I shouldn't have to pay out the ass to make sure its running and simultaneously enjoy it!

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[Q] Roaming only mode?

Hello everyone,
Hope you're all enjoying the Epic as much as I am (and to think... this time yesterday I had a Touch Diamond)! One feature that I used every day at work in WinMo was the "Roaming only" option under Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Phone -> Services -> Roaming. On the Epic, the choices are "Sprint only" and "Automatic." Are there any ideas of how to add a Roaming only mode?
(At work my sprint signal is very low, and my Verizon signal is fine. If I am in Automatic mode, my Diamond battery would die in 1.5hrs without me touching the phone, but under Roaming Only mode the battery would be down to 50% by the end of the day.)
Thank you!
App: http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.vuvuzela.roamcontrol
Thanks for the tip. I downloaded the app but roam only isn't working. I'll shoot the dev an email and report back.
seems like you need to be rooted
I just installed this on my epic and its working great. Phone temps have dropped tremendously since i have no sprint coverage at home. This should save alot of bettery life as well.
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are you rooted?
sultan.of.swing said:
I just installed this on my epic and its working great. Phone temps have dropped tremendously since i have no sprint coverage at home. This should save alot of bettery life as well.
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Working great here too. Download (and upload) speeds no different than with Sprint. And it is so odd to see more than 1 bar on my signal meter at home.
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are you rooted?
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Yes
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Thanks for pointed this app out. Works great!
I have had some issues with signal from time to time in one particular room in my house. I noticed that my phone went to roam one time and the signal jumped up tremendously so I got to thinking about some type of forced roam.
A secondary benefit for me is that my 3g speed increased dramatically. A little over doubled download and slight increase on upload. Not only did it increase, but it is now stable!!
I had unrooted my phone and went completely back to stock due to no real ROM out yet that seemed worth putting up with the headaches. I did root again to obtain and use this app and absolutely have no problem with paying the amount asked with the results I have gotten factored in.
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Thanks for pointed this app out. Works great!
I have had some issues with signal from time to time in one particular room in my house. I noticed that my phone went to roam one time and the signal jumped up tremendously so I got to thinking about some type of forced roam.
A secondary benefit for me is that my 3g speed increased dramatically. A little over doubled download and slight increase on upload. Not only did it increase, but it is now stable!!
I had unrooted my phone and went completely back to stock due to no real ROM out yet that seemed worth putting up with the headaches. I did root again to obtain and use this app and absolutely have no problem with paying the amount asked with the results I have gotten factored in.
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Now all he needs to add is a widget.
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I roam all the time in my office and in the metro system in DC. Just to confirm, we don't have a roaming data cap, right? When I log into my account it says that it's unlimited but if you click on the "speeds" tab of this page
http://shop.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/4g_plan_details.html
It mentions a 300mb roaming limit. I think/hope it means if you *don't* have the $10 add on so I'm fine, but I also used to roam all the time on my old phone on Sprint and the plan page never mentioned a limit. Hopefully they'd give a warning or something before being charged extra...
jacjyd said:
I roam all the time in my office and in the metro system in DC. Just to confirm, we don't have a roaming data cap, right? When I log into my account it says that it's unlimited but if you click on the "speeds" tab of this page
http://shop.sprint.com/en/shop/why_sprint/4g/4g_plan_details.html
It mentions a 300mb roaming limit. I think/hope it means if you *don't* have the $10 add on so I'm fine, but I also used to roam all the time on my old phone on Sprint and the plan page never mentioned a limit. Hopefully they'd give a warning or something before being charged extra...
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The limit on data roaming only applies to data cards...not to phones.
i found it depends on rep you talk to
some say no limit on phones others say the limit applies to phones too

3g cap exist?

Im thinking of getting 3g. Is there a 10gb cap? How fast is tmo edge? Ty. I want to tether
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By 10 Gb cap are you talking about T-Mobile bottlenecking your phone's bandwidth after hitting 10 Gb of usage in a month? Yes, from what I've read that exists, but I've never ran into it and I think it's lower than that (around 2 Gb). T-Mobile Edge sucks, but if your in an area with HSPA+ (they're version of 4G) you should be alright. I think I get around 2 Mbps down/800 Kbps up.
Its actually a 5gb cap for t-mobile as of mid-October. It was 10gb but most people don't know about either of these numbers because the plans were sold explicitly as "unlimited", and technically they are because they don't actually cut you off and charge per mb after the 5gb cap like Att. They just "throttle" your speeds for the rest of the billing period from 3g (2mb) to edge (56k), which can be found in small print at the end of the terms of service booklet that comes with the phone (after you pay for it- cs reps DO NOT disclose this while selling you an "unlimited" plan).
You will know if you're throttled if you get a text from T-mo saying you've exceeded the cap, which has happened to me for the last 2 months. Luckily, the techs at T-Mobile are retarded and you can get around this by either replacing the throttle files in your rom.zip or by using an alternate apn. Search for "how to defeat data throttling" on xda and there's a complete guide on how to do both of these in the thread. I have heard that 4g phones wont get capped though, so you might want to look into that before buying a 3g. Speeds on 3g are decent though and I use both pdanet and wireless tethering to connect to my laptop on a daily basis. USB is faster, but I average around 1.7mb download and 1.2 up. Your location and distance from cell towers will be the biggest determining factor on speed.
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Thank you for your time mike. And for the long descriptive info. May I ask what keyboard you use. I must say, i admire your flawless spelling.
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I live approx 8miles from the nearest hspa tower. In los angeles all the city near the real downtown have fast 3g rate.. whqt do you think the most u can use before tmo slows u? I am a heavy user, about 18gig a month. Btw if u are 5gig capped, and say u used 4.5gig and switch apn, it reset to 0?
btw 4g as in the g2 and mytouch.4g?
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T-Mobile's 4G. Dunno about the G2, but yes to the myTouch 4G.
Haha thanks its just the keyboard that came with the latest cyanogen nightly, but it is slightly different than the keyboard from 6.1 rc1 and seems to be more responsive. I don't think it matters if you switch the apn before or after 5gb because they don't throttle the internet2 apn for some reason. I go over 15gb/month too because of tethering so i just use the alternate internet2 apn while throttled and switch back to epc.tmobile when the new billing cycle starts. Deleting the 7 throttle files is a more permanent fix but I hate dealing with adb and fastboot. And ya I meant the new mytouch and I'm pretty sure the g2 which are t-mobile's only "4g" phones atm. I really want to switch from my mytouch 3g to a 4g phone too but when i got this phone it was one of two t-mo androids at the time (ironically the g1 and mytouch 3g) and a month later they came out with like 10 more so I'm gonna wait for my upgrade cuz I know they're gonna pull the same BS with 4g after they get all the ppl with money burning a hole in their pockets to spring for the new mytouch and g2. If you're getting a new plan tho I would take a close look at their specs compared to the nexus s, I'll bet they don't come close. I live in central Cali btw, how do you check where the nearest tower is? Speedtest.net runs off a Modesto tower which is 45 mins away, I'm hoping my 3g tower is closer than that.
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On tmo website. There is a coverage map u can check on.
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moneymike55 said:
...Luckily, the techs at T-Mobile are retarded and you can get around this by either replacing the throttle files in your rom.zip or by using an alternate apn. Search for "how to defeat data throttling" on xda and there's a complete guide on how to do both of these in the thread.
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I didn't even know about this. Anyone able to verify this 100% yet?
BTW, I added the hypertext for the guide that I'm assuming that you are referring to.
I was thinking of changing. My stupid verizon, in my area is charging me DOUBLE. I pay 40$ for verizon (internet+phone home) but they are charging me an EXTRA 20$. Which is BULL. So, im at a Pay or QUIT, and I QUIT.Screw that if your going to charge me 40 bucks, i might as well get 3G/4G. I will try to verify, let me reactivate my data plan..I will post back. Feel free to discuss
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I didn't even know about this. Anyone able to verify this 100% yet?
BTW, I added the hypertext for the guide that I'm assuming that you are referring to.
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Thanks for posting the link, I know that the alternate apn works and there are a few dozen ppl that have tested and confirmed that the other process works, with the only common issue being force closes on the networks setting menu. I have gone through the first steps of finding the 7 throttle files in the rom zip and changing them through adb using smali and the concept makes sense, but you have to delete these files for each rom install and Im currently testing the stability of the latest cm nightly build compared to 6.1 rc1 so I didn't want to finish until I decided on a rom. I believe there are a few ppl on that thread that have been compiling update.zip files that can be applied to any rom using recovery, but I tried one and got a bootloop so had to use nandroid. No throttle definitely makes 3g more bearable but to answer the question in the op, edge and 3g speeds suck compared to 4g and if you like the g2 or mytouch 4g I would buy one cuz there's no point getting stuck paying the same price for slower speeds for the next two years. The only thing holding me back is my contract, and $200 is looking more worth it every time I see 3g vs 4g speedtest posts.
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moneymike55 said:
Thanks for posting the link, I know that the alternate apn works and there are a few dozen ppl that have tested and confirmed that the other process works, with the only common issue being force closes on the networks setting menu. I have gone through the first steps of finding the 7 throttle files in the rom zip and changing them through adb using smali and the concept makes sense, but you have to delete these files for each rom install and Im currently testing the stability of the latest cm nightly build compared to 6.1 rc1 so I didn't want to finish until I decided on a rom. I believe there are a few ppl on that thread that have been compiling update.zip files that can be applied to any rom using recovery, but I tried one and got a bootloop so had to use nandroid. No throttle definitely makes 3g more bearable but to answer the question in the op, edge and 3g speeds suck compared to 4g and if you like the g2 or mytouch 4g I would buy one cuz there's no point getting stuck paying the same price for slower speeds for the next two years. The only thing holding me back is my contract, and $200 is looking more worth it every time I see 3g vs 4g speedtest posts.
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So if the throttle files make sense then so should this? Very simple actually:
Make a nandroid backup at the beginning of the billing period.
Use up your 5gb limit.
Restore your nandroid backup and see if you are still being throttled.
If so... doesn't work. If not... then there might be something to it.
Uh binary. Was Xda taken out of tapatalk for a few days? Couldnt access on phone. But curous what is a nandroid? I see it in my clockwork. But. Never did one. Explain to a Noob xD
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JohnnyP.akaJP said:
Uh binary. Was Xda taken out of tapatalk for a few days? Couldnt access on phone. But curous what is a nandroid? I see it in my clockwork. But. Never did one. Explain to a Noob xD
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I dunno about tapatalk. I haven't heard anything about it. However there is a member that has been posting his QUESTIONS in the Development section almost on a daily basis that I have to keep moving and at the bottom of all of his posts have the typical "Sent from..." on it. So maybe it was just yours?
Nandroid = Clockwork backup:
A complete backup of essential data and rom components.
It consists of the following:
[*]BOOT.IMG
[*]CACHE.IMG
[*]DATA.IMG
[*]SYSTEM.IMG
[*]RECOVERY.IMG
[*]SD-EXT.IMG
[*].ANDROID_SECURE.IMG
[*]MISC.IMG
These files can be restored by using the same tool to produce the backup. (ie Clockwork backups are restored by Clockwork Recovery, Nandroid.sh script can be restored by the nandroid.sh script recovery commands.)
There all pretty much the same. Nandroid and BART scripts aren't commonly used since Clockwork came around but all pretty much do the same thing. Since Clockwork is constantly updated it is the most recommended method of producing a backup of your phones current state.
Also worth noting that with some these backups they can also be restored by fastboot. Fastboot flash userdata data.img, Fastboot flash system system.img, Fastboot flash boot boot.img, Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img, Fastboot flash cache cache.img. Not certain about the SD-ext.img and .andoid_secure.img though.
So in my previously mentioned suggestion if the throttle files are the only cause of being throttled after exceeding the 5gb limit then the fix is simple. Restore the system.img which contains the framework's services.jar file. But I'm very skeptical that this would even work because I'm pretty skeptical that the method in the guide is effective. Hell... to make it even easier what's to stop you from exceeding your 5gb limit and simply putting your sim in another phone and using the data from that device? I think T-Mobile is smarter than that... aren't they? Using a different APN perhaps... but not editing the serivce.jar file. That's just my theory anyway.
If you want my opinion, I think that the provider (T-Mobile) throttles it on their end... not by ours. Broadband providers (Comcast, AT&T Broadband, Roadrunner, etc) don't throttle your bandwidth by replacing the drivers on your computers network card. It's all on their end.
I have a hypothesis, built on what binaey said.. I think that every sim card has a unique tracking code. So on 3g. When you request data, it will use your unique id. They save the info on their logs, and disable you when u hit 5gigs. Nevertheless, i will still try.
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Oh and the switching apn ideas seems pretty concrete.
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JohnnyP.akaJP said:
I have a hypothesis, built on what binaey said.. I think that every sim card has a unique tracking code. So on 3g. When you request data, it will use your unique id. They save the info on their logs, and disable you when u hit 5gigs. Nevertheless, i will still try.
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That's what SIM's do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module
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Binary100100 said:
So in my previously mentioned suggestion if the throttle files are the only cause of being throttled after exceeding the 5gb limit then the fix is simple. Restore the system.img which contains the framework's services.jar file. But I'm very skeptical that this would even work because I'm pretty skeptical that the method in the guide is effective. Hell... to make it even easier what's to stop you from exceeding your 5gb limit and simply putting your sim in another phone and using the data from that device? I think T-Mobile is smarter than that... aren't they? Using a different APN perhaps... but not editing the serivce.jar file. That's just my theory anyway.
If you want my opinion, I think that the provider (T-Mobile) throttles it on their end... not by ours. Broadband providers (Comcast, AT&T Broadband, Roadrunner, etc) don't throttle your bandwidth by replacing the drivers on your computers network card. It's all on their end.
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You're right, the throttle files are activated OTA by t-mobile once you reach the cap. These files are built into the rom and, once activated, constantly bottleneck data speeds from your registered account, meaning that switching phones or loading a backup from the beginning of the month wont work because the data usage is stored on t-mo servers and your rom will still contain the files they need to automatically throttle you. The key to all of this is cost effectiveness through automation. You would think the techs at T-Mobile would be aware of the fact that simply deleting the files and replacing them to essentially trick the phone is possible, and I'm sure they are. The problem is that it would be a lot more expensive to pay employees to manually update individual users accounts and maintain them for the entire throttle cycle. T-mobile's system is undoubtedly flawed, but (beside the fact that only MAYBE a few hundred thousand ppl of their millions of customers know about it, and theyre making up for it from the ppl who manually updated and are actually paying $15 to tether) it has already been worked into all their phones and would require either new infrastructure and manpower to fix, or the cancellation of developer's data plans altogether for violating TOS. The mod has been thoroughly tested with all positive results though, and the entire time we've been discussing this I have been "throttled" at 2.0mb lol. I didn't bother with the mod because the internet2 apn has been working great. Incidentally, after the throttle was deactivated mid-morning yesterday my speeds jumped from ~2.0 to 3.2 consistently for 6 tests under internet2 apn, and ~2.5 top on epc.tmobile apn. Along with the fact that a t-mo rep on their forums said that all employees use internet2 and that is also what cs reccommends to customers with bad service before they cancel their contracts, I am starting to come to the conclusion that the alternate apn is a solution to several issues including throttle and overall connection speed.
And by the way JP, nandroid is one of the most important things you can do when modding your device. It essentially creates a backup of the current state of your device so that if you ever get stuck in a boot-loop or black screen, you can boot to recovery and reinstall the backup. It only takes 5mins to make through recovery or rom manager,and is very valuable to have just in case (saved me from a bricked device 2 weeks ago...after staying up all night trying to figure out what buttons to push to boot to recovery without the internet
EDIT: tested both apns again using speedtest.net app and went from 2100kbps consistently on epc.tmobile to 1650kbps avg on internet2 so I could be wrong about the speed improvement. Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App
Update: Alternate apn fix no longer works as of this month. Have fun answering the phone tmobile cuz ppl r really going to complain now.
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3G a bit slow lately?

Anybody notice 3G to be a bit slow lately? I used speed test awhile back and got 1.5mbps, now I get half that! Not cool.
quickbird144 said:
Anybody notice 3G to be a bit slow lately? I used speed test awhile back and got 1.5mbps, now I get half that! Not cool.
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Fluctuation in speed will happen. Try it again in a hour and see what you get. Did you run the speed tests in the same location.
I've been seeing more and more of these threads popup. Something is up.
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Maybe this..
http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/23/att-and-sprint-petition-fcc-for-spectrum-exchange/
My 3G speeds were bad all of Dec. now they're good.
Didn't mean to add another thread. Was going I wasn't alone on this. I've gone through 3 different roms and a slew of kernels thinking it was them. Bummer.
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during the day my speeds are decent, in the evenings once everyone gets off work my speeds slow to a crawl.
Just now....
david279 said:
Just now....
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What prl and radio do you have?
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What prl and radio do you have?
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All the latest...
I actually got 1.12mbps couple minutes ago. So I guess its nothing I should be concerned about.
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Think you have it bad, look at this ****. And can someone explain to me why when I open speedtest all of the servers are in europe?
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Think you have it bad, look at this ****. And can someone explain to me why when I open speedtest all of the servers are in europe?
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Wow! That's actually what I was seeing earlier. Don't know what's going on cause soon as I made my post that I was getting 1.2mbps, it dropped to nearly nothing. Smh..
brownhornet said:
Think you have it bad, look at this ****. And can someone explain to me why when I open speedtest all of the servers are in europe?
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Same thing is happening to me.
Like I said something is up. Sprint data used to be the best in NYC. Man, I also wish that they upgraded to Rev. B for the next flagship phone. I know, wishful thinking but Id prefer that over WiMax for everyday use
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markushi said:
Same thing is happening to me.
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+1....Whats up with that???
markushi said:
Same thing is happening to me.
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Check your mobile internet settings. I just flashed cm7 and it has a couple of new selections...like international roaming, which was preselected. Also, it was preselected to roam on national affiliate networks. Since a lot of these roms are from people "across the pond" as they say, it will default to their servers. So, de-select those options and it will find a server closer to where you live. It is pretty kewl as it does switch to another network, but it is only 1rt speed, not 3G, so it didn't make my connection any faster. There are several threads out there on this about slow 3G speeds. I can only hope that with the 4G coming online, maybe the spectrum will open up to allow faster 3G speeds.
Lol glad im not the only 1 seeing this.. I was testing my connection in Germany yesterday LOL...
Tho even swapped back to the closest server (Germantown WI) , my speed still sucked..So I called sprint when I got home and told him my results compared to an ATT and Verizon phones while they were right next to me, and they were 6-7x faster then mine.
The CSR told me that its possible with northern Ill. getting 4G its working its way north into Wisconsin,and that could be affecting towers here while they transition..
Frankly I dont buy it. 2-3 weeks ago it was great, since then, 360kb is common. Also in the phone call I told him that I have no issues paying the $10 premium data charge, but if my phone keeps chugging along as it is now, I will be calling back since there is no way in hell I can take advantage of this "premium data" when I cant even watch a video on YouTube without constant pauses and other downloads basically crawling along.
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Lol glad im not the only 1 seeing this.. I was testing my connection in Germany yesterday LOL...
Tho even swapped back to the closest server (Germantown WI) , my speed still sucked..So I called sprint when I got home and told him my results compared to an ATT and Verizon phones while they were right next to me, and they were 6-7x faster then mine.
The CSR told me that its possible with northern Ill. getting 4G its working its way north into Wisconsin,and that could be affecting towers here while they transition..
Frankly I dont buy it. 2-3 weeks ago it was great, since then, 360kb is common. Also in the phone call I told him that I have no issues paying the $10 premium data charge, but if my phone keeps chugging along as it is now, I will be calling back since there is no way in hell I can take advantage of this "premium data" when I cant even watch a video on YouTube without constant pauses and other downloads basically crawling along.
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I chatted with a rep last night and they gave me the whole "there are no issues" song and dance. Clearly with so many people noticing this in so many different areas there is SOMETHING wrong with Sprints network. Either that or theyre throttling their speeds thinking people wont notice.
The csr i spoke to said he was going to push something thru to my phone and I should reboot it..which I did..
I see somewhat of an improvement at home (I THINK theres a relay on the watertower near my house but im not sure) and its now about 1.4mb down...Tho most of my issues are when im away from home and not near WiFi lol
I really hope Sprint isnt pulling a ninja throttle job on us to ease up the network for all the new subs

It pays to complain about poor 3g data speeds.

Been having horrable data speeds on 3g the past 3-4 months. And ive been calling and complaining everytime i have problems and making note of when i called sprint and what was done to the account. I have tried everything they asked including going to the store and getting a refurbed evo. But at the store when i got the refub i dled speedtest and got the same results...so i told them to keep it and give me my original phone back.
Point of this post is to DEFINATLY call and complain...dont let it go and look it over. Take notes on what they said and did to your account and spit it back at them the next time you call. They wanna charge me an etf for something that is not my fault since i want to cancel. I wont accept that...this is there problem...i shouldnt pay for full service if i aint getting it or be punished for cancelling when it is a problem on there end. Here is notes from todays convo with them as an example for others that should do the same. It may be the only way for them to fix there service or the only way they look at you and be like...hes to much of a pain in the ass to keep him so let him go. I will continue to call and complain until it is hopefully fixed or worst case they cancell my contract...todays notes.
Feb 15 spoke to 3 sprint reps and 1 supervisor in the cancellation dept..had my bill adusted to 101.09 dollars for poor service the past 3-4 months. So far total credits issued for poor data the past 4 months is $16 for invisable screen protecter..$20 for data booster at home...$30 for a credit issued for january for poor data speeds and $36 today for february's bill of poor data speeds. Total of $102.00
I've also noticed slower speeds for some time now, along with my home comcast internet. too many people online these days? (my internet used to be blaazzzing fast for 9 years!)
This has happened to me since November. I got my evo on launch day, and was getting great speeds, about 1500kbps down consistently. One day in November, my 3g crapped out. Since then, sprint has given me 6 phones, 3 refurbs and 3 brand new ones. All have the same problem. This leads me to believe its a network problem, I mean how could 7 phones have the same exact problem. But, my friend has an evo, and side by side his is normal, while I get less than 70kbps. And the evo's in the sprint store are fine as well, along with all the other phone models.
I have spent HOURS and HOURS on the phone trying to get this taken care of. I'm not trying to get anything from sprint, I just want my 3g to work. I love the evo, and I love sprint's coverage in my area.
They have given me 6 phones, and I haven't paid my bill in 3 months, since they keep giving me credits since they cant figure out the problem. I really could care less, I just want my 3g to work correctly.
So no, it really DOESN'T pay to complain. I have spent hours of my life complaining about this, and have gotten nowhere.
Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
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What happened was more people got on the data network and Sprint hasn't invested in capacity like Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T has to support more 3G data traffic.
What's the best internetz speed tester?
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Search tbe market for speed test
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Have you tried this?
Avalaunchmods said:
PLEASE READ L-E-T-T-E-R FOR L-E-T-T-E-R, W-O-R-D FOR W-O-R-D.
As we all know, HTC and Sprint borked downloads for apps like Rhapsody, Mog, Thumbplay.
I recently ran across the subject and i found a fix. It is very simple.
1. Get your MSL, There are many ways, call Sprint, Download the app MSL Reader from the market, CDMA workshop
2. After you have your MSL go to your phone and type ##3282#
3. Click Edit Mode
4. Click Advanced
5. Scroll down to HTTP PD Proxy Port & HTTP PD Proxy Address
6. Change HTTP PD Proxy Port to 0 (zero)
7. Change HTTP PD Proxy Address to 0.0.0.0
8. Go enjoy Downloads and a .20-.60 mbps increase in 3G speeds!
-All credit to original finder of this fix, i am just passing it along and found the speed increase. Also when you flash a new rom it will back to old settings so remember to re-apply and it wont make you more vulnerable to anything.
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The Proxy changes do indeed help. Be sure to give them a try. That being said. my 3G and 4G data speeds are roughly half of what they were four months ago (Baltimore market). The only thing that has not changed is my RSSI or signal strength which comes in at -62.00 dBm every day, all day. The Rx signal to noise ratio has been reading "Not ready" for the past couple of months. What happened to it? How do I calculate CINR without this part of the equation?
I've complained numerous times about my poor signal coverage and pour 3g and ay first they gave me a airvana airave unit which really doesn't work to well with the evo..... but at least they did something....
I have an Airwave on the way. Sprint has also credited a month's bill yet again. Let's hope Sprint/Clear can get their collective acts together soon.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
That's what I told them. They said it was an "Airwave 2.0" and acts like a repeater of the 3G signal. Either way, it is of no cost to me. It does show a willingness of Sprint to work with me, even if the proposed solution is no solution.
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It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service, but its the same with Comcast internet as much as I hate it. The companies all get u with the little filler words "up to". The speeds are not and never will be garunteed, at least not in the near future. Let's just hope these clowns actually give us TRUE 4g speeds in the next few years(70-100Mbps) as the technology grows.
Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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I mean there is wiggle room. But when a company says 20Mbps and u only get 13, u r within that range u are talking about. I know Comcast, if u pay for 20mbps service, u can be getting 12 and they can do nothing about it on their end. It's because some units share a single.signal, same with cell towers, the more people using , the slower it'll be. And grandma and grandpa are starting to get smartphones, so it'll keep getting slower unless sprint stays on top of their game.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
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Yeah pretty much if you have a WiFi capable device.
I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
They also sent me an airave, which did indeed help in my home. But that does nothing outside of my home. Also, if the 3g works with the airave, that should mean that there is no problem with the 3g radio, so its not a hardware problem, but a network problem.
It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service
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I dont think this is the problem. As I stated earlier, two of my friends have evo's, and side by side, their two get normal speeds, while mine gets crap. Also, in the sprint store, I tested their display evo, just fine, and a few other random phones, all were fine.
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I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
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I live in the north subs and my parents are downtown Lake n Deerborn, and my parents phones have been crap lately too. Maybe sprint is over emphasizing the 4G downtown(much faster there then where I'm at) and could be messing w 3G speeds. Probably not the exact case but I can see sprint concentrating highly on 4G where it is abundant and short changing 3G a little bit.
I'm no pro so don't take my theory to heart, just thoughts.
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[Q] Tmobile Bandwidth Limit

Hello Everyone, I am currently with Tmobile and I have my G2 rooted and I love it. I use the portable hotspot feature quite a bit at work so I'm signed up for tmobiles "unlimited" internet on my phone. However Once I hit 5gb bandwidth for the month I received a text message saying that I had hit the 5gb cap for the month and for the duration of the pay period I would still have internet since I'm signed up for "unlimited" but I would have a reduced speed... Let me tell you right now its very reduced. So my first question is, do you guys have this problem? and my second question is, which service providers don't have this lame cap? My friend is on Sprint currently and he's used 12GB bandwidth so far this month and can still use his 4G speed which would be nice. So I may go with Sprint however I'd like to keep my options open so do you guys know if Verizon or At&T have the cap as well? Also what kind of phones would you guys suggest with the two? Preferably I'd like to fix the problem with Tmobile however I don't see that happening because when I went in the store they said I was already at the most internet /month.
Currently the only 2 providers that dont have a cap AFAIK are sprint and verizon. ATT used to have one, but was taken away back when the first ipad came out and now they only offer 2gb and charge you 10 dollars a gig over that. Sprint phones arent all that great right now ,probably the best phone on sprint right now IMO, would be the epic 4g. Verizons best phone is the thunderbolt, which ironically isnt for sale yet, but it will this month. they also have the iphone and some other android phones (fairly outdated at this point)
You got to remember that verizon is more expensive than t-mobile. Sprint is fairly expensive too and their 4g phones require an extra 10 dollar fee for bs reasons. If you want the unlimited data youre going to have to pony up the cash.
If i was you i would wait for the dual core phones to come to those carries, the droid bionic for verizon and who knows what for sprint.
Ps. I heard that verizon is throttling the top 5% of its users. I read it in engadget but alas, i dont have that carrier/problem so i havent looked into it.
Hope i helped a little
Edit: forgot to mention that if you want 4g you have to make sure that you are in an area that has the 4g specific for that carrier. Your friend has 4g on sprint so that means youre at least in a wimax (sprint 4g) area.
Verizon has a different 4g (LTE) that might not be in your area at this point in time.
Also sprint has 3 4g phones, t mobile has 3 and verizon has only 1 and it isnt even out yet.
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Nice break down.
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personally with the price per month my wife and i are paying for tmobile i would never leave.
best way to do it is to have 5 member family plan... cheapest way at least.
A T-Mobile tech support rep told me that he was told in a recent meeting that they were going back to the 10 gig cap. He said a date wasn't mentioned...who knows if this is true or not, I'm just sharing what I was told.
That was amazingly helpful and I have a lot to consider now. I do have it pretty nice with Tmobile right now because we have a 5 family member plan and if there is a prospect of 10gig coming out then I will probably wait it out. And if the new phones come out and I still want to change then I will. Thank you so much for your help!
There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.
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There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.
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I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Nope, my bad. I'm wrong on this one. Good luck!
Well Tmo finally saw what we were doing in data throttling and it did work realllly well..but all good things come to an end.
I have however managed to "defeat" throttling by....staying under the 5GB. Through wifi surfing. I have wifi at home and at work and those are the two places you find me . Simple.
But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
Tmo has got to smarten up. Still they're still my favorite compared to the others.
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But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
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Your broadband connection being shared via wifi must really be slow for HSDPA to be faster. What is it, DSL?
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I agree,your broadband connection via wifi must really suck. I get an average of 13gb down & just under 3 gb up. Some day's I'll get a little over 15gb down. You should probably get a new router.
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