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5gb cap true or not?

Okay so ive read topics where tmobile will slow down your speed if you go above 5gb in data usage. Well i went above that (im at 5.3gb) 2 nights ago and its only my 2nd week into my billing cycle. This is because i tether my xbox to play live, i give people wifi for their laptops etc. So my question is, do they really slow you down? My speeds are H connections and havent slowed down at all. And why give people phones and they pay for unlimited data only to have it slowed down if they exceed an x amount and have them pay an EXTRA $15 for an added tether feature?
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Id say consider yourself lucky your speed hasn't been "choked" down a little. Its all part of TS you agreed to when you signed up.
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hawaiian.monzta said:
Okay so ive read topics where tmobile will slow down your speed if you go above 5gb in data usage. Well i went above that (im at 5.3gb) 2 nights ago and its only my 2nd week into my billing cycle. This is because i tether my xbox to play live, i give people wifi for their laptops etc. So my question is, do they really slow you down? My speeds are H connections and havent slowed down at all. And why give people phones and they pay for unlimited data only to have it slowed down if they exceed an x amount and have them pay an EXTRA $15 for an added tether feature?
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First of all, XBL through your cell? Seems odd...
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the 5GB cap will roll out in the next month or so it isn't effective immediately.

hawaiian.monzta said:
Okay so ive read topics where tmobile will slow down your speed if you go above 5gb in data usage. Well i went above that (im at 5.3gb) 2 nights ago and its only my 2nd week into my billing cycle. This is because i tether my xbox to play live, i give people wifi for their laptops etc. So my question is, do they really slow you down? My speeds are H connections and havent slowed down at all. And why give people phones and they pay for unlimited data only to have it slowed down if they exceed an x amount and have them pay an EXTRA $15 for an added tether feature?
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5GB cap applies to new contracts and customers start with T-Mobile, pre-existing customer have the 10 GB cap with throttling.

hawaiian.monzta said:
i give people wifi for their laptops etc.
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F that. The only time I've done that is when I've been traveling and needed access and someone else needed access as well. Otherwise, pay up.

The people I give wifi to is like my family. I don't give random people wifi.
And believe it or not hspa+ speeds on the g2 is way quicker than my actual internet
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But thanks everyone for your input
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when you get throttled down, you'll know it. every time i hit 5 gigs, i get slowed down. it's been happening to me ever since the nexus one. i haven't heard of the 10 gig thing, but the 5 did happen to me. when it did happen on the nexus one for me, it would still show 3g. but i'll get edge speed only, and it's a pain. but you can surf regular web stuff just fine. it's the videos that'll kill ya. i haven't hit 5 gigs on the g2 yet and not planning to. but hey, at least they throttle you down instead of charging you extra per mb.

I think it has begun. A couple days ago I received a text from tmo saying my speeds would be slowed through the remainder of the billing cycle. I have always been a heavy user and used to tether my Nexus every night at work. I am only at about 6Gbs this billing cycle so I hardly think it is excessive. I hit 14Gbs a couple months ago and never got this message.
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cdreamworld said:
when you get throttled down, you'll know it. every time i hit 5 gigs, i get slowed down. it's been happening to me ever since the nexus one. i haven't heard of the 10 gig thing, but the 5 did happen to me. when it did happen on the nexus one for me, it would still show 3g. but i'll get edge speed only, and it's a pain. but you can surf regular web stuff just fine. it's the videos that'll kill ya. i haven't hit 5 gigs on the g2 yet and not planning to. but hey, at least they throttle you down instead of charging you extra per mb.
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Your right at last they don't charge you extra but if they did, that would be against the law because if we pay for unlimited, we pay to use unlimited. So they can't charge extra for going over a certain amount
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T-Mobile just started recently to throttle the downspeed. However, at least that's what is announced, you should receive a text message informing you about the throttling.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/warning-heavy-users-t-mobile-just-now-turning-on-data-throttli/

Just received my txt because of tethering on my mytouch slide!
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Just received my txt because of tethering on my mytouch slide!
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What text?
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Oh you don't know? Tmobile send you a nice txt message when you hit your 5 gig limit. My only issue is that I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the limit. I'm going to have to check my usage.
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What text?
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dynamikd said:
Oh you don't know? Tmobile send you a nice txt message when you hit your 5 gig limit. My only issue is that I'm pretty sure I didn't hit the limit. I'm going to have to check my usage.
After you got that text did you notice a slow down in speed?
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In all honesty I did not. I even ran a speed test after I received the txt to verify and I was still pulling the usually speeds for my area.
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dynamikd said:
In all honesty I did not. I even ran a speed test after I received the txt to verify and I was still pulling the usually speeds for my area.
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Nice!
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http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-data-plans-revamping-november-3rd/
Good read if you want the low down.
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@ddgarcia05 That was a good read indeed.
@mftek That txt through me off because I have tethered on my device before and never once received any sort of notification from Tmobile about it.
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Tmobile to charge for Tethering?

Over at AndroidCentral they said you can no longer tether for free if u do it will cause u 14.99 a month? Is this legit? PDA Net is now rendered useless? Anyone shed some light on this?
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Although we already knew that a new plan for customers that want to Tether was coming soon and then yesteday, confirmed for November 3rd, the folks over at BGR have recieved details on the new tethering plan. T-Mobile will officially offer the $14.99 /MonthTethering and WiFi-Sharing Add-On beginning November 3rd. The plan will allow subscribers to use their smartphones as a tethered modem or Wi-Fi hotspot. To qualify for the $14.99 Tethering add-on, you will need to have a 3G/HSPA+ capable handset in addition to an unlimited web plan of $19.95 or higher. The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled. The plan will be available for Postpaid and Flex Pay Customers.
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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
What I'm wondering is what's going to happen to everyone that was grandfathered in with the 10gig data softcap. Do they stay with 10gig data plans or are they knocked down to 5gig softcaps. Yes, I understand it still unlimited but I'm not interested on tethering with an Edge connection.

Excuse my language but Wtf type of sh*t is that? First they don't want you to tether, then they are gonna let u tether for another 5gb and that's it???? They can suck a fat one. Btw I've already been throttled and it aint that bad so I'm pretty sure this new idea of theirs is gonna blow back in their face. If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Does this mean we will be getting some kind of OTA to enable tethering?
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If only verizon has the g2 or a htc phone with physical keyboard
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Well, they will have their version of the G2, but then what? You'll leave T-Mobile for the Red Devil? They charge for tethering too you know?
Geez, what's the big fuss about them charging for tethering. You'll still be able to tether your connection without paying for the plan, granted it will STILL be against the terms and conditions but there's nothing stopping you from doing so.
My brother tethers his Verizon BlackBerry and he doesn't have any sort of tethering plan. I'm on T-Mobile and I tethered my BBs (when I had them) and my G1 without any issues, now I didn't go out there and stream and download this and that and make it obvious that I was using a lot of data.
If you recall T-Mobile did say that CURRENTLY tethering was not available but they were LOOKING into it because customers are interested. "Looking into it" is just their way of saying "Yeah, we're gonna support tethering but we're figuring out what to charge for it".
Bottom line, you don't like it, leave T-Mobile if you think they're screwing you. Why stress yourself out by *****ing about it?

I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.

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Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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That may be how it operates (I do not know) but that is not what the quoted article says. It says that tethering counts towards your 5GB cap.
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The tethering plan also counts towards your 5GB data cap. So that means once you’ve used 5GB of data, your speeds will be throttled.
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i.e. if you have a 5GB cap now, you will have a 5GB cap when you add tethering. I assume if you have a 10GB cap now you would have a 10GB cap when tethering.

Chuckmoney said:
I'm just wondering about those who are semi-rooted running the wifi tether app? How is t-mobile going to be able to distinguish this from any other data use? I use the wifi tether for root users apk on a daily basis since I got visionary, I guess I'll see on my november billing cycle whether they can tell or not.
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I don't think they care if you use tether or not. They probably hope you do. It's people who already tether that are mostly likely going to feel the hit. Every smartphone user pays for a data plan which is for 5gigs. What you do with those 5gigs is up to you ex. tether, torrents, xbox live, mp3 downloads, stream porn, its doesn't mater. After your 5gigs are up. Then what? Can hardcore tether users live off an Edge connection? No. Now people who have never tethered before and know nothing about root will think it's awesome. When in fact they could have been tethering long before. When you stop and see it from that angle, how many of these tmo customers who are going to get the tether package will ever hit the 5gig limit? I doubt may of them will. They probably wont even tap into their tethering plan and fall below the 5gig data plan softcap. Which means they've paid $14.99, for data they never even used.
This is assuming that tmo will see any form of data movement weather it be through tethering or receiving a MMS as data. This would tie into the whole tmo can suspect you of tethering because of a 6/8/20/100mb usage her and there. When normally I've never gone pass 500mb a month even with very lite tethering.
Or I could just be flat out wrong.

This is complete bs. Does this apply to older phones too? I'm a hardcore USB tether user on my G1. How will they even be able to tell if I'm tethering or not?

ddgarcia05 said:
Source: http://www.buzzbox.com/preview/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/?id=11345568
To the OP, it's still unlimited data. You'll get dropped to Edge when you pass your 5gig softcap on a data plan. If you pay extra for tethering you'll be added an additional 5gigs. Thus bringing the softcap to 10gigs.
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Many other sources are reporting that there's no increase in your limit. So 5gb may still apply.
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/10/t-mobile-launching-14-99-tethering-plan-november-3rd/
via... http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/10/26/t-mobile-to-debut-tethering-plan-on-november-3rd-14-99/
Either way, screw that - I'll never pay for tethering.

I think this was their plan the whole time? Which is most likely why the G2 is locked down the the it is. They want to charge for something that can be done for free if the phone was rooted. I wouldn't be shocked if all phones from this point on is locked up as well.

So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.

Good god, why are you people so upset? Tethering isn't technically allowed right now, although tons of people do it. What, are you guys going to stop tethering because T-Mobile is going to charge for an official service? Of course not. You'll use PdaNet or mobile AP and T-Mobile won't give a crap, just like always.

xKERNALx said:
So technically, they are not allowing unlimited data, correct? I did not read through a lot of this thread, but from what I understood in the first two posts, it seems like T-Mobile is changing their contact, looks like it might be time for me to get out for free.
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No, it's still unlimited data, it's just that there's a soft cap where they'll throttle you down to Edge if you go over 5GB. But the soft cap applies to all data, whether tethered or not, and always has (it used to be 10GB).

Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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hawaiian.monzta said:
Thats pretty messed up. Yea I tether alot i wont lie but i also watch movies on the g2. As in streaming wise. And streaming video pulls almost half a meg a second. So because i stream movies and watch tv on my g2 ive gotten to over 800 mb in a night. So what, they going to charge me and think im tethering? Thatz jes straight up stupid
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No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds

Well since there is no 3G service where I live being bumped down to edge speeds is kind of an idle threat for me lol.
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In my own situations, whenever I want to stream or do anything data intensive, I always have wifi around anyways ie. work, school, home etc

Shambala001 said:
No... if you read around, or simply right above your post, the tether charge will be for the native app. If you go over the 5gig limit they throttle you down to edge speeds
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But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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hawaiian.monzta said:
But how can tmobile charge tether fees and justify that someone is indeed tethering? Who is really going to pay an extra 14.99 just to have tmobile okay with tethering??
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Damn. Have you read past the 2 first post? I answered both these questions on the first page. I'm not pissed I'm just wondering my post made sense.

Sprint and tethering?

Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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I have never heard of anyone being penalized by Sprint for tethering with a rooted phone before but that does not mean it has not happened. I do use tethering once in a while when I am away from home and need data to my laptop. If you are not going crazy (don't run bittorrent on a tethered phone) then you are probably ok. You do have "unlimited" data (what ever that means) but if you start using more than 10GB a month you may attract attention.

Durkbeef said:
Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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Search through the threads, this question has been asked many times before and see if its worth it to you... Its worth it to alot of other members in here... So root and tether away if you like but dont over do it and enjoy or give Sprint $30 a month and dont worry about a thing... The Choice Is Yours!

i tether all the time. no issues.....so far

Yep pretty much just don't go crazy and you should be fine.

Durkbeef said:
Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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You have unlimited web surfing, email, and pictures. Running up excessive amounts of data by downloading or uploading movies, hosting video games, non-stop usage of a video camera, as well as tethering are all violations of your contract.
Sprint cares more about excessive data usage (whether you are paying for tethering or not) than who is tethering without paying for it, because too much data running through the system affects service. Tethering is just running data to your computer from your phone. They charge the $30 because if they did not, more people would use their phones as their primary internet and run up enormous amounts of data (I DON'T THINK SPRINT AGREES WITH THE 235GB CAP PER MONTH THAT COMCAST ALLOWS). The people who have been flagged by Sprint were all using large amounts of data, and quite a few were actually paying for tethering.

I tether exclusively...i download torrents, music, and everything...been doing it since June 4th 2010...no problems! Tether on friend!

I never paid the $30/month and I tether 15-20GB every month. Never had any problems with Sprint.
I also have an employee discount and only have to pay $60/month. Not bad.

I'm a light tetherer but a heavy data user. I use 6-10gb monthly and I have since I started my sprint contract 4 months ago. Just keep down your roaming as sprint allows only 300mb of off network roaming.
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It's just important to be responsible about it.
There's nothing wrong with tethering once in a while when it's necessary, there is something wrong with using it as your home internet connection and not paying the extra fee.
It's important to understand that when you abuse the system you're not just hurting us, you're hurting yourself. Why? Because you encourage Sprint to go the route of others. And if they do that, you won't have the option.

Ive EASILY tethered on 4G 100+GB since May. Ofcourse, 4G is ABSOLUTELY unlimited no matter what. I dont think they monitor 4G as much as 3G, since the 4G comes from Clear, really. I dont tether 3G much at all. But yea, tether away....just dont do anything illegal.

Durkbeef said:
Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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Sprint store employees try to sell sprint's $30 a month hotspot and will tell you that is the only way to tether. I do not have this service, and I tether like a madman and have never been charged. I've used PDAnet, wifi tether, and the cm7 built in hot spot option. You have no need to worry, tether away.

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Sprint store employees try to sell sprint's $30 a month hotspot and will tell you that is the only way to tether. I do not have this service, and I tether like a madman and have never been charged. I've used PDAnet, wifi tether, and the cm7 built in hot spot option. You have no need to worry, tether away.
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I have tethered as well and had no issues. Mainly use it only when I need to if there isn't any wifi options when I am not at home or work.

I use a program called PDANet.
Search Android Market, Free App

If you are by 4g when you tether then knock yourself out. They don't monitor 4g at all so u can do whatever. But if you use 3g they track the amount of data but its still unlimited. Just like everyone else said. Don't go crazy with the 3g and you will be in the clear.
P.s. I tethered while out of town for a month in a very good 4g area. Easily used 40+ gigabytes of data during that month (torrents and whatnot) and nothing. No message, no extra charge. Zilch. So if your in 4g ur in the clear as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: btw I use the wireless tether app that's available in the market
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I use PDAnet and Wifi tethering..PDAnet has to versions a free version and a paid version. the free version you cant view security enabled sites..but I found a way your the paid version...but Wifi tethering is the easiest way to go!!

Use pdanet from the android market as well great app ease of use for noobs from what I hear works alot better tethering 4g than my actual time Warner providers internet access do a speed test you'll see the results if your in a decent 4g area
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PhxkinMassacre said:
If you are by 4g when you tether then knock yourself out. They don't monitor 4g at all so u can do whatever. But if you use 3g they track the amount of data but its still unlimited. Just like everyone else said. Don't go crazy with the 3g and you will be in the clear.
P.s. I tethered while out of town for a month in a very good 4g area. Easily used 40+ gigabytes of data during that month (torrents and whatnot) and nothing. No message, no extra charge. Zilch. So if your in 4g ur in the clear as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: btw I use the wireless tether app that's available in the market
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Thanks for the info, there's a wimax tower literally around the corner from my apartment, so I'm planning to use my new epic 4g touch to tether extensively, but I was worried about them scolding me I don't plan to use 3g much at all since 4g coverage is pretty good.

Tethering with Barnical

So will att catch on? I only will use it for Playing world of warcraft for a few hours eevery 3 or 4 days and basic web browsing. A few hours of game play is ONLY about 50mb if even that. But will they catch on? I have the 30 dollar unlimated plan

I got a letter from att a month ago about tethering on my infuse. I'm not sure how they found out since I was running a cooked rom I wouldn't chance it cause they will switch your account to the 4 gig tethering plan
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I got a letter from att a month ago about tethering on my infuse. I'm not sure how they found out since I was running a cooked rom I wouldn't chance it cause they will switch your account to the 4 gig tethering plan
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Will they warn me first?? or will they just switch it?

Im sorry i didn't mean to post in this section i ha to many tabs and didn't see it
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hyelton said:
Will they warn me first?? or will they just switch it?
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They need to let you know they are changing your plan before they do so. I have been tethering with my phone for years now and ATT has never said anything to and I think it has to do with the amount of traffic. If they see a huge spike of activity and then they look at where that traffic is coming from and they see that you are connecting to battle net then they will know something is up(i know the traffic is not coming from battle net). What I am trying to say is do it within reason, as my guess is the people that they are catching are using well over 2GB a month.

I hope a mod moves this soon... But I heard of at least one person getting nailed with usage <1GB.

i used to tether my blackberry to my ipod touch forever and att has never said anything, i used to use it on my netbook when i went to school too. this was bluetoothtethering. but im think it has more to do with what a user is doing/amount of traffic they are using etc. as for the <gb guy, that may have been a random check or something else. but tethering to play online gaming you will surely get naildd... so use at your own risk knowing the consequences if they/when they find out

I've been tethering for years. I regularly go over 5gb's and at&t has never said anything. I am grandfathered in on the unlimited tho, and I normally only use it for tethering my tablet which is Android so it probably looks as tho it's just coming from my phone. Oh and occasional tethering to my Xbox when my DSL drops out. Lol.
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I believe it has to do with the internet stack in the phone. Seen an article a while back on this. If you use a cooked rom they will know if it is based on the stock kernal and rom. If you use something like cyanogenmod they shouldn't ever find out. I think I seen this explanation with verizon tethering and how to get around it.

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I believe it has to do with the internet stack in the phone. Seen an article a while back on this. If you use a cooked rom they will know if it is based on the stock kernal and rom. If you use something like cyanogenmod they shouldn't ever find out. I think I seen this explanation with verizon tethering and how to get around it.
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but that wouldnt explain how i could tether with my blackberry to computers and ipods with no ATT wrath, and i know these are android phones but tethering is tethering..right?

How AT&T can find out?
About four months ago I received a txt from AT&T thanking me for enjoying my trial period of tethering for my iPhone and that a tethering package would automatically be on my next bill. The forum I was on (don't remember where) simply stated that all I had to do was go into an AT&T store and demand that I NOT be placed on the tethering plan. I did that and after a quick phone call from the store to a CSR they pulled it off but with a warning. They said that if tethering activity was monitored again that they would add it back and I couldn't remove it (yeah right).
I was using the MyWi app from Cydia that works perfectly. I used it for nearly two years with no issue. However, the PDANet Cydia app has a "Hide Tethering" option in the program that always made me curious. What is it hiding? MyWi doesn't have that option.
I also used a Windows Mobile phone prior to that with ICS installed and regularly tethered to that as well. I think that ROM was a NotaTreoFan ROM most of the time and then Energy.
I would love the option of adding tethering to my SGS2 but I refuse to pay for a tethering plan. I'm still grandfathered into unlimited data.
Thoughts?

hyelton said:
So will att catch on? I only will use it for Playing world of warcraft for a few hours eevery 3 or 4 days and basic web browsing. A few hours of game play is ONLY about 50mb if even that. But will they catch on? I have the 30 dollar unlimated plan
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They shouldn't notice anything. I have used barnacle tether on T-Mobile and sprint. So both sim and cdma for a while now. And so far nothing. I'm pretty sure barnacle tether just uses your mobile network and shows up as nothing more than data usage. Bc when using the built in carrier tethering they see the app in use and send that data back. I check my tether stats and network stats and it just shows up as network use. I think you will be fine
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[Q] Wifi tether uses what kind of sprint data?

I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,

sapperpipo said:
your using handset data which is unlimited and this only works if you are rooted and have wifi tether enabled,
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Okay good, that is my setup.
Short of torrenting pirated movies or other bandwidth-heavy activities, I don't have to worry about getting a nasty letter from them about using too much traffic then?
I normally just stream Netflix all day, check for updates on SRF1.3, and check G+ 3 or 4 times daily.

They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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But I thought Sprint was the only provider that doesn't have a fair-usage policy limiting users to 5GB a month. They are truly unlimited... (insert question mark here?)

styles420 said:
They all use the same data. Sprint just doesn't believe that a phone by itself will ever reach the 5 gb mark, and for the most part, they're right. Normal use of a phone should fall well below that mark, although video streaming could push it...
But try downloading 6 gigs on your phone each month, legitimately exceeding the 5 gig threshold without violating the new terms of service (in other words, without using any form of tethering), and I'd be willing to bet that your speed will still be throttled. You may even receive a letter about a violation, or about purchasing theory tethering plan. (Paying for their tethering doesn't count for this experiment, since it has already been established that that plan does get throttled, and it involves supplying a data connection to a device other than your phone)
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hmmm interesting,,
g l w t

sapperpipo said:
I use on average of 11 million Kbs of service each month for the past almost 2 years and I have yet to recieve any such letter,,,
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...that f**king shut me up...

As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over

davidrules7778 said:
As long as you arent abusing tethering like downloading huge torrents and using it as your main internet on 3g, you should be fine... i mean i know tons of people that posted in other threads that always go over the 5gb limit and sprint doesnt throttle or charge u.. just dont use it for torrents or online gaming via ps3 or xbox.
You should be fine if you do go over
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Hopefully it stays that way - they *just* changed the terms of service within the past month, so only time will tell.
If you pay for their tethering package, then the app checks in with their network when you start it (this was the part that needed to be hacked to get the native hotspot working for free, essentially) - that would be the only way Sprint would know which data is used for tethering, and it could end up being inflated by any data use on your phone while the tether app is running (unless the app actually reports when data is being pulled for a connected device instead of the phone - but that's more bandwidth wasted...)
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I really don't think Sprint cares. I had no home internet for about 2 weeks recently, so I used the tethering hack. During tha time I torrented over 30 GB of tv over 4g and never got a warning or throttling.
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I had been reading from the sprint website about their unlimited plans and sprint's customer support responses to people. The results are promising, for now.
They basically said as long as network usage remains balanced between light and heavy users, everything will remain unlimited forever. (We obviously know forever means 1 or 2 years at the rate people are jumping over to the unlimited bandwagon).
Even with the iPhone users coming over, they say it's going to remain unlimited as long as not EVERYONE is being a heavy user. If everyone becomes heavy, the CEO said they will think about tackling a different approach to tiered-usage once that boat comes along, but I guess we're all okay for now.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
I've seen the other similar threads but I couldn't find anywhere, anyone who has asked these questions specifically:
Sprint recently added a 5GB data cap to their "tethering" services that comes with the Sprint Hotspot. I understand that "handset" data however, is still to remain unlimited...
1.) So when using the Wifi tethering app from the market, which data does it use on Sprint's network? Tethering, or handset?
2.) If you're using Sprint's hotspot app - the hacked/modded versions devs have been making- which does it use?
3.) And finally, if you have a rom like SRF1.2 that bypasses proxies and does other network tweaks, which does it use with them?
My phones are below if you need to know what I'm running.
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I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/

jemajun000 said:
I dont really know but i think that it just uses android's driver and permission from SU (superuser) to form itself into a wifi hotspot. For number two, if you hack you're phone, you're still going to pay for SPRINT hotspot app. However, wifi hotspot(from market) is free. I don't know number 3.. sorry :/
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False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.

dtugg said:
False. I don't pay them $30/month and I use the hacked version of the hotspot app albeit not very much. That's the whole point of hacking it, so you don't have to pay the extra $30/month.
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Seriously, thanks for being the voice of reason here - that guy must have forgotten to toggle basic logic back on before engaging the typing mechanism
"We hacked the native hotspot app - now, it functions EXACTLY the same way as it did before we hacked it... don't forget to hit that THANKS button!"
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I'm glad you guys answered before I did. My answer would have been petty hurtful because that reply was not helpful whatsoever.
If you don't know, guessing doesn't contribute unless the post has to do with theory!
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didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?

murso74 said:
didnt' really want to start a new thread.... i'm on SRF 1.2 with the fixed tether. for a couple of months i had no internet in the house so i was tethering without any issue off of 4g. got my internet back up at home and stopped using it. today i tried to go on with 4g and i could only go to google.com. turned off 4g and can surf on 3g on my laptop without issue. anyone know what's going on?
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In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
In the future, starting a new thread instead of hijacking mine is suggested... but I'm feeling generous before I go to bed the A.M.
You simply don't start 4G until after your device is connected via wifi on 3G.
*Start wifi tether
*connect device
*Turn on 4G
In that order and it should work fine.
Try that and report your results please.
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unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack

murso74 said:
unfortunatly that didnt' work. wonder if it has anything to do with my location. going to have to try it again when i get back home and see if that makes a difference. thanks for letting me thread jack
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Hmmm, sorry that didn't work. Please let me know your findings then so I have another solution to add for future peeps with such an issue.