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This phone lacks vs. G1... for now

I came from using G1 but now bricked due to deathspl... and actually waited for this phone to come. Ran into several problems I picked up on over the months since launch..
Bluetooth seems to be configured depending on headset. For example, using my motorola s9 hd works perfect.. but my jawbone only picks up calls no media support. Where as on G1 it will have full support.. I have another stereo bluetooth but only plays media and no phone support.
Majority of the time I download from youtube.. tubedroid favorite. But I found the hardware plays downloaded videos off sync.. the visual plays then sound comes on half sec or so later. I tested this on other youtube apps and found similar results. Yxplayer seems to play the videos correctly however.
One thing I notice is multi touch seems to support no more than 2 spots.. zoom on browser works but I noticed problems when playing megaman zero on gameboid. Cannot charge shot/jump/dash at same time. I already informed the dev but they say its the hardware..
My 2 questions are. Will future custom roms. Be able to fix these problems. And if so, will I be flamed for posting this in the android development section?

I have had my g1 from before it offically came out and man this phone is 20x better then the g1. Do u know how buggy the g1 was when it first came out especially with the bluetooth. I have no problems using icon bluetooth headset or my moto h690

alluzzion2o9 said:
I came from using G1 but now bricked due to deathspl... and actually waited for this phone to come. Ran into several problems I picked up on over the months since launch..
Bluetooth seems to be configured depending on headset. For example, using my motorola s9 hd works perfect.. but my jawbone only picks up calls no media support. Where as on G1 it will have full support.. I have another stereo bluetooth but only plays media and no phone support.
Majority of the time I download from youtube.. tubedroid favorite. But I found the hardware plays downloaded videos off sync.. the visual plays then sound comes on half sec or so later. I tested this on other youtube apps and found similar results. Yxplayer seems to play the videos correctly however.
One thing I notice is multi touch seems to support no more than 2 spots.. zoom on browser works but I noticed problems when playing megaman zero on gameboid. Cannot charge shot/jump/dash at same time. I already informed the dev but they say its the hardware..
My 2 questions are. Will future custom roms. Be able to fix these problems. And if so, will I be flamed for posting this in the android development section?
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Most of the problems you list, multi touch and bluetooth, could have probably been improved by developers and included into the rom you used. As for tubedroid, if it is an app that doesn't have anymore updates, it's likely that the application was made for use on a G1 and the development was stopped, so of course it would be perfectly compatible for the G1. You have to take in consideration that the G1 has a big group of developers improving it where the slide was released just a bit over a month ago.

Ok lemmie give you a low down :l have you noticed android has been shipping out new phones like its a christmas sale well they dont have time to fix all the kinks so they fix what they seem like is what most people would use and update the frameware later to fix the other problems. And many slide roms improve on the MTS

TakoLuffer said:
Ok lemmie give you a low down :l have you noticed android has been shipping out new phones like its a christmas sale well they dont have time to fix all the kinks so they fix what they seem like is what most people would use and update the frameware later to fix the other problems. And many slide roms improve on the MTS
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You're an idiot, Android is the product of the Android Open Source Project. They do not make the phones. Legally any manufacturer can ship an Android non-Google branded device without Google's consent (albeit, lack of gapps).
Froyo, as every Android release, is coming with updated Bluetooth drivers and will fix many bugs found in Eclair and Donut. Gingerbread most likely will as well.

richierich118 said:
I have had my g1 from before it offically came out and man this phone is 20x better then the g1. Do u know how buggy the g1 was when it first came out especially with the bluetooth. I have no problems using icon bluetooth headset or my moto h690
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I came in late with the G1 so i was able to pick up on roms that fixed much of the problems. I remember I flashed a rom and was upset the bluetooth wasn't working properly. Stupid me didn't realize the rom was still in beta. I just find it so weird all 3 of my bluetooths have different support for this phone.
Anartic said:
Most of the problems you list, multi touch and bluetooth, could have probably been improved by developers and included into the rom you used. As for tubedroid, if it is an app that doesn't have anymore updates, it's likely that the application was made for use on a G1 and the development was stopped, so of course it would be perfectly compatible for the G1. You have to take in consideration that the G1 has a big group of developers improving it where the slide was released just a bit over a month ago.
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I understand this, i just thought it was a good time to point out these flaws for devs to be aware of.... i contacted sirius via email and they told me they'd get on to fixing it... i have no idea if it was automated or something.

to put it in perspective. The G1 was Marilyn Monroe, The Slide is Khloe Kardashian (Kim with her Big Ole Kadunkadunk would have to be the mighty Galaxy S Variant dropping tomorrow).
They both have they're place and are hot in their own ways, but just like the comparison women the slide is is great underneath its outer shell with revamped cpu, room to grow and nice and trim in all the right places.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

TomorrowSpace said:
to put it in perspective. The G1 was Marilyn Monroe, The Slide is Khloe Kardashian (Kim with her Big Ole Kadunkadunk would have to be the mighty Galaxy S Variant dropping tomorrow).
They both have they're place and are hot in their own ways, but just like the comparison women the slide is is great underneath its outer shell with revamped cpu, room to grow and nice and trim in all the right places.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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Lol crazy/funnt comparison. Serious note, speaking of cpu... I can't wait to see how for mt3g slide can be overclocked.. I was so ready for the phone I bought it in red and fitted red and orange rubberized hard shells in a sort of iron man theme... too bad doesn't come in gold yellow.

TomorrowSpace said:
to put it in perspective. The G1 was Marilyn Monroe, The Slide is Khloe Kardashian (Kim with her Big Ole Kadunkadunk would have to be the mighty Galaxy S Variant dropping tomorrow).
They both have they're place and are hot in their own ways, but just like the comparison women the slide is is great underneath its outer shell with revamped cpu, room to grow and nice and trim in all the right places.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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HOW DARE YOU COMPARE OUR BEAUTIFUL MTS TO THAT UGLY SLUT! Lol!
seriously though, our taste in women must differ greatly. Marilyn had a nice shapely butt, imo.
I guess I have a thing for the old school women. Anyways... when we get an update for the MTS... the kernel can be hacked and the CPU can be amped up more like it should be. My old G1 is dead even in linpack scores at 3.5 MF with my MTS running slide Mr1 v4. I'm sure the froyo beta would put it ahead at around 4.5-6 MF. I heard of some folks getting like 7-8mf but I'm not sure if I believe that...

I'm getting 8's on linpack every time you should try it its fast as hell
sent from my badass slide running eugene's port of cm6

jriv said:
I'm getting 8's on linpack every time you should try it its fast as hell
sent from my badass slide running eugene's port of cm6
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Eeeek! That's fast! JIT is doing it's job. Man, I wish we could figure out a way to enable JIT on 2.1! I've been working on it tonight with no luck so far.
I tried the old libdvm.so file but just bootloops, lol! That's what's making froyo so damn fast. Plus, built in a2sd isn't working on froyo yet nor camera/camcorder right? I really need stability and the froyo tease won't do anything but make me angry, lol! I know folks are saying it's stable for everyday use but I don't know...

Its pretty stable been about a week for me no random fc's only thing that bugs me is that I can't get flash to work when I take a picture.just do a nandroid and give it a shot I promises you the speed will make you stock with it.
sent from my badass slide running eugene's port of cm6

jriv said:
Its pretty stable been about a week for me no random fc's only thing that bugs me is that I can't get flash to work when I take a picture.just do a nandroid and give it a shot I promises you the speed will make you stock with it.
sent from my badass slide running eugene's port of cm6
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Yeah, the camera drivers definatly are perfected yet. I tried it last night and wow its fast! Even with lwp running with all my widgets. Yep, its twice as fast as slidemr1 v4.... the only bummer is that I couldn't get a2sd to work. I formatted the whole SD to fat32 and still nothing. No partitions either. I guess I could play with it more... flashed back last night because I ran out of time. I might just wait a bit longer for a more stable Rom. But it was fun for sure...

Roman I was talkin about android phones and you don't have to critisize every person in here dude.
r0man said:
You're an idiot, Android is the product of the Android Open Source Project. They do not make the phones. Legally any manufacturer can ship an Android non-Google branded device without Google's consent (albeit, lack of gapps).
Froyo, as every Android release, is coming with updated Bluetooth drivers and will fix many bugs found in Eclair and Donut. Gingerbread most likely will as well.
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WP7 on HD2 from XDA.CN and its not hoax!

Great news for me at least as it seems that WP7 on the HD2 is alive and well. Here is a video showing it booting up fairly similar to how we boot up android. It has not been released yet but from the new on this website it is not far off. I assure you it is all very legit and will be here soon. I used google chrome to visit these sites as it auto translates so let the actual countdown begin. this is exciting for me at least as I think HD2 was and still is the best mobile HTC ever made. this thing runs Android, WM6.5 and WP7!
links
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjE5OTU0MDY0.html(video)
http://xda.cn/newshow.php?snid=192(video and some screenshots)

Yead and they it will be available by end of the next week... in our dreams of course...

SO when ?!
So when finally we can use one of these WP7 ?!?
it is taking much more than I expected !

yeah it seems to be working, but seems also quite slow/sluggish compared to, say, the hd7. maybe it's due to the boot from sd

howcome in the video the IE tile has nice graphics while on all other phones i've seen its flat like all other tiles...?

well i am just happy it still alive and well. it does seem a bit sluggish but it is out there and will be available soon. it boots off microsd like android so there will be flaws. like android however it will work well. seeing that the htc hd7 had a microsd as its internal memory( pictures on the web to confirm) we should be very optimistic to have this running near perfect on HD2
link(HD7 microsd)
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news6389.html

namiran said:
howcome in the video the IE tile has nice graphics while on all other phones i've seen its flat like all other tiles...?
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i noticed that too! can't answer that just live in hope that we actually get a working build. that to me is progress

Another video link
Another video link
//v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODA2NDQ4.html

E que tal este novo vídeo ?
vejam pelos vossos próprios olhos
http://bbs.xda.cn/thread-95247-1-1.html

video nr.2 on link
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwODA2NDQ4.html
if somebody still think its fake... please call the number

your copy

uploaded the second video to youtube so you dont have to use a proxy to watch it on the chinese website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXuJlpu3NXU

old build
this looks like an old build that's running on the HD2. that's why the IE icon looks different and also that's why it's slower. the newer builds have performance improvements. let's hope they get the final build running on it too.
also, did you notice the other phone in the video (Mozart) had AT&T branding on the hardware, but Telus branding on the software

antonsb said:
this looks like an old build that's running on the HD2. that's why the IE icon looks different and also that's why it's slower. the newer builds have performance improvements. let's hope they get the final build running on it too.
also, did you notice the other phone in the video (Mozart) had AT&T branding on the hardware, but Telus branding on the software
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Also the HD2 there using in the video is a prototype
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xmoo said:
Also the HD2 there using in the video is a prototype
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what would that mean? how different are these prototypes hardwarewise? if it can run on one of these, does that mean it can run on retail units?

antonsb said:
this looks like an old build that's running on the HD2. that's why the IE icon looks different and also that's why it's slower. the newer builds have performance improvements. let's hope they get the final build running on it too.
also, did you notice the other phone in the video (Mozart) had AT&T branding on the hardware, but Telus branding on the software
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Old build new build who cares man! Fact remains that you dont know. For me a least there is a build and it not surrounded by mystery. Stop trying to pick holes in the thing and accept for what it is........ hope

xmoo said:
Also the HD2 there using in the video is a prototype
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So what if its a prototype its undoubtedly a hd2 and its running wp7 period. Geez

nilsk123 said:
what would that mean? how different are these prototypes hardwarewise? if it can run on one of these, does that mean it can run on retail units?
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Depends on if it's a old prototype (320mb ram) or a newer prototyoe (1024mb ram) or something very newer....
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i just jizzed my pants.
i saw the first and i believed in it but i was still a bit skeptical but now...
AHHHHHHH ITS NOT LONG BEFORE WE HAVE IT! lool
but i sure do hope they release the newer build because the build on the hd2 is one of the older ones and is missing a lot of features!

shingers5 said:
So what if its a prototype its undoubtedly a hd2 and its running wp7 period. Geez
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Sure they'll get it sorted to go to the masses (us) now if they could only find a way of getting it to run from phone and not MicroSD we really would be laughing .
An Arsenal fan living in Liverpool bet you didn't know if to laugh or cry today hey .
The Pool did us a massive favour today good on 'em .

[Q] for samsung fascinate/verizon user

hi guys i am currently with tmobile right now and i own a tmobile G2 i am very disappointed with the G2 camera and have decide to switch phone and service to verison, several question i like to ask
1. does the fascinate record at constant 30fps even in low light?
2. does the flash work with the recording
3. is there froyo for the rom?
4. is flashing roms/kernel relatively easier on the fascinate? (using clockwork recoveries)
5.is it overclockable?
6.are you happy with it?
7. GPS issue?
8. this or the continuum? (i realize bias since im in fascinate forum)

All yes except for the froyo Rom
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk

KiFWIW:
1 Not sure, sorry.
2 Not sure, sorry.
3 ... The best I can say is be patient, and try one of the great ROMs that are out now.
4 Piece of cake! And a pretty helpful dev community as long as you do your due diligence searching before you ask questions.
5 Kernels do exist. Some are crazy fast (voodoo). Some are just stupidfast(my personal favorite. No overclock necessary).
6 Very happy with it. For me it's fun/easy to tweak and there's no arguing it's one of the best pierces of hardware out there.
Also, I'm not sure if this affects your decision or not, but VZW is probably a fair amount more money than t-mo...
For your camera/corder questions you may get some good feedback from howardforums.com. I used to frequent there quite a bit(BadBen over there...), but came here to get more technical info.

thanks
thanks guys i am in the military i might get some discount, not sure if they do that anymore, i really dont care about sense much, does any of the rom has FM radio like the desire z?

G1_enthusiast said:
does any of the rom has FM radio like the desire z?
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no, no fm/am radio. you can download an internet radio option and of course there is always slacker radio, Pandora, or last FM.

G1_enthusiast said:
thanks guys i am in the military i might get some discount, not sure if they do that anymore
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U can get 20% off /w military from big V, just bring a current LES to one of their official stores and they'll have u fill out a form.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

sweet thanks!!

To the camcorder question yes it does record at 30 fps
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[REQ] Galaxy S Rom

I would like to request devs to port a Galaxy S rom to Nexus S because of the media codec support and the touchwiz interface.
The Touchwiz UI alone is not enough because it misses all the useful additions that Samsung integrated into the ROM.

Buying a galaxy would be the best solution?

Dude it cost me a fortune to buy my mum a "star" god knows how much a galaxy will be!

I know what you mean but I think a galaxy rom would be a big downgrade on nexus....no gingerbread

Porting a galaxy s rom to the nexus s would be extremely hard if not impossible.
As the galaxy s runs android 2.2.
But since its the same hardware there is a possibility.

Who needs all them codecs when u can convert videos with Handbrake that work perfectly on the Nexus S.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

The tw slide text/call would be awesome
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Byte_76 said:
I would like to request devs to port a Galaxy S rom to Nexus S because of the media codec support and the touchwiz interface.
The Touchwiz UI alone is not enough because it misses all the useful additions that Samsung integrated into the ROM.
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I second this... most of you probably never owned a galaxy s phone to even realize what you're missing
But judging by the lack of development here and the fact they moved this to general were most devs to even look
i doubt it will happen
wish Eugene373 had a NS

sarge363 said:
Who needs all them codecs when u can convert videos with Handbrake that work perfectly on the Nexus S.
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you cant convert a video to get same quality unless you want to take up 12 gigs for an MP4 ive spent way too much time doing this and eventually gave up
dario3040 said:
Porting a galaxy s rom to the nexus s would be extremely hard if not impossible.
As the galaxy s runs android 2.2.
But since its the same hardware there is a possibility.
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Nothing is impossible considering its open source
FYI they have 2.3 working on galaxy s phones yea not 100% but still

i 'm only want CM7 rom with MIUI theme )

I would also like to see a port !
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

the only thing I miss about my vibrant is the camera options and the ability to record in 720p. It was probably the best quality I ever seen for a video camera on a cell phone. Besides that, nexus s, owns

tmhung said:
i 'm only want CM7 rom with MIUI theme )
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I want this also
crking1980 said:
the only thing I miss about my vibrant is the camera options and the ability to record in 720p. It was probably the best quality I ever seen for a video camera on a cell phone. Besides that, nexus s, owns
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yup loved the touch focus
cant do 720p thanks to hardware limitation blame Google becasue they wanted to implement NFC crap the pretty much replaced the HD chip and Micro SD slot area.
But yea no doubt NS still better phone just wish we could utilize it for what its worth

I'm running CM and I do miss some things. Codecs, HW accelerated browser, touchwiz, swype... But it's not worth the crap that it comes with. RFS lag and flaky lagfixes, bloatware that's hardwired into the framework, interface lag (no JIT, makes a huge difference). Basically it's not a good tradeoff. Once I have voodoo sound and swype back I'll forget Samsung ROMS.
Sent from my Galaxy S using XDA App

Please put back into development section. Developers dont even look here
other sub forums have "[THINK TANK] [REQUEST] in development section to give developers ideas ...ect

demo23019 said:
you cant convert a video to get same quality unless you want to take up 12 gigs for an MP4 ive spent way too much time doing this and eventually gave up
Nothing is impossible considering its open source
FYI they have 2.3 working on galaxy s phones yea not 100% but still
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The movies I've converted look good enough. Nothing over 2gb works but think about it......its a phone not a home entertainment system. It works great as a portable device. If I want to watch something in full HD there are better ways than a 4 inch screen.
Maybe when the new Vibrant 4g gets a 2.3 update
PS: I do miss Allshare.....
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This has been requested more times than I can count...

kenvan19 said:
This has been requested more times than I can count...
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Guess why
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seriously? someone actually WANTS Touchwiz on their Nexus S

hoseth0711 said:
Guess why
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Because people don't know how to search so they start new threads asking for the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
Instead of reading previous posts and realizing why it hasn't been ported yet.
But hey, if all of you want it so bad why don't you learn to code for android and port it yourself?

[Q] Coming from Samsung Vibrant...Media Hub question

Hello. I have recently acquired an HD2 that I am currently dual booting with WM6.5 and AmericanAndroid from my SD, and I absolutely love it. The question I have is this...I also have a Samsung Vibrant that I also like very well, with the Samsung Media Hub app installed on it. I have several movies that I have purchased for that app, and was wondering if it would be possible for me to install that apk onto my HD2 Android ROM. Just wondering if anyone has tried it or if there are any obvious complications I should avoid. Thanks in advance for any input.

spdrcr999 said:
Hello. I have recently acquired an HD2 that I am currently dual booting with WM6.5 and AmericanAndroid from my SD, and I absolutely love it. The question I have is this...I also have a Samsung Vibrant that I also like very well, with the Samsung Media Hub app installed on it. I have several movies that I have purchased for that app, and was wondering if it would be possible for me to install that apk onto my HD2 Android ROM. Just wondering if anyone has tried it or if there are any obvious complications I should avoid. Thanks in advance for any input.
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I have a vibrant 4g and an hd2. I'll try when I get home and will let you know
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Thanks. I'd appreciate it.

Speed
Can you guys tell me how is the speed on the Hd2 running android compared to the vibrant? I'm planning on buying an hd2 and use android on it until wp7 gets better (in terms of features), but I'm concerned that it will be a lot slower than native android devices. I know that the vibrant uses a different soc, but if the hd2 is just a tiny bit slower or something like that, then I feel I should go for it.
Sorry for offtopic.

I can only say from my limited experience with my hd2, but lots of experience with my vibrant. The 2.3.2 rom is butter smooth and have had very few problems. As far as speed, it is at least equal to my Vibrant, if not a bit snappier. I am only going by feel as I do not put too much stock in quadrant scores. In my opinion being able to dual boot winmo also, makes this superior, at least until they end up with a stable 2.3 port to the Vibrant.
Hope this helped.
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I think quadrant is useless anyway.Thank you very much for your answer!

Drextard said:
Can you guys tell me how is the speed on the Hd2 running android compared to the vibrant? I'm planning on buying an hd2 and use android on it until wp7 gets better (in terms of features), but I'm concerned that it will be a lot slower than native android devices. I know that the vibrant uses a different soc, but if the hd2 is just a tiny bit slower or something like that, then I feel I should go for it.
Sorry for offtopic.
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I had a vibrant and a hd2 and i sold the vibrant last month. For me, android on hd2 is near perfect. I bet the HTC guy that decided to put Win 6.5 on the hd2 was drunk at that time.

spdrcr999 said:
Thanks. I'd appreciate it.
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Doesn't work. it installs and runs with no force closes but nothing within media hub loads. Clicking movie store or tv store results in a box that says "loading" but then nothing happens
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Lint6 said:
Doesn't work. it installs and runs with no force closes but nothing within media hub loads. Clicking movie store or tv store results in a box that says "loading" but then nothing happens
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Hey, thanks for the effort. No big deal. So far that's the only drawback i've found to this setup, if you could call it that. I'm really loving this phone. I don't see my Vibrant getting too much use in the future except for flashing new builds just to see how they are.