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question on all vogue-android builds

which is the most stable for everyday use right now? also what happened to this tattoo build for us on qvga, i don't see it anywhere?

If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.

TheKartus said:
If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.
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yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.
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I'm using the motor build at 240 x 320 & 110 lcd density... very nice. A few hiccups but this looks like my fav build so far. Once you get to homescreen let it settle down for a bit and it works well. Gps, native camera.... need to figure out how to fine-tune this puppy

none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I've been using xROM 1.5 for about 2 months with no issues what so ever. Why is it not functional enough for you to use? Everything works except bluetooth.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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Any of the Ion builds are great for use everyday. All you lack is bluetooth and MMS but Android makes up for that with its other benefits. Ion is perfectly stable and fast.

right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.

fixxxer2008 said:
right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.
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yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/

jamezelle said:
yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/
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wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.

fixxxer2008 said:
wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.
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We don't have root access though.

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We don't have root access though.
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yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.
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yeah but thats all we have to work with for now

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I would recommend using SPB Mobile shell 3.1 or 3.5 and then adding the Revolution theme. It's a rip off of the Hero UI and SPB Mobile shell is the MOST stable Today plugin that I have used to date.
They made it over in France so use this link to translate for you.
Sence le Revolution

You have root access through su. And to take a pic you can use the debugger in the sdk.
And hero runs sense ui just fine so no need to fake it.

woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.

fixxxer2008 said:
woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.
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edit: i just read users of the real hero are having the same issues with data connection on top of a ton of other major issues. i think ill hold off buying the hero until a fix comes out. sprint cannot afford another failure at this point.

i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it

zenulator said:
i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it
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i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.
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What about the ion build? That's every day usable in my eyes. And I've had problems with Windows mobile locking up and missing calls even on a stock Rom/radio...but to me I see more complaints from you than anyone else. I know things aren't prefect but users of other HTC windows phones would love to be able to run android as well as vogue/kaiser.

Froyo overall impressions

I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!

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muncheroo said:
I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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test test test

Yeah I wouldnt mind hearing from someone that came from say CM5 to the latest stock Froyo. Is it better? Is it worth flashing now seeing as how CM6 is about a week or so away?
I would try it now myself, but I can't give up the dumb little things. (such as trackball wake)

I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo. I was surprised that the final Froyo release seemed faster and smoother than FRF83. The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT. I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.

Super. Wonderful. Amazing. Thank you Google and anyone else on the OHA that contributed to this.
It's great. I love it. I love it even more when someone hands me a HTC Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile on it... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.

clickwir said:
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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Look at my sig pic, WM is all I ever used for years. I dabbled with android with emulators on my Fuze, then finally made the jump when the N1 was released. After using it for 1 day, I was emotional.
I really can't think of one single thing I miss with WM...

irishrally said:
The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.

pfmiller said:
I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).

irishrally said:
Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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The JIT actually wouldn't have any impact on loading times. The standard interpreted code is always run initially. It's only once the app starts running that the JIT is able to locate frequently accessed blocks of code that would benefit from compiling to native code.

irishrally said:
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo ...
... I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
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I too have used CyanogenMod since I had my G1. I DID play with, and greatly enjoy the Froyo ROM when it was released by PaulObrien.
But I did miss some of Cyanogens special additions, so I went back to it a few weeks ago.
Now with the latest Froyo out, I may change over - AGAIN!
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... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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hahaha, funny you mentioned that.
A co-worker of mine approached me, and said he bought this Android™ phone from a friend. He heard that I know about Android, rooting, apps, etc. so he had some questions for me. He hands me the phone, and I was thrilled to hold this LARGE HTC DEVICE in my hand. I haven't held an EVO, yet, so imagine my joy!!! My first time ya know so I was honored.
It was branded T-MOBILE though ... hhmm, this can't be right!!! It should say Sprint!!!
After seeing the homescreen and tapping/flicking/swiping for all of 1.0 seconds, I handed it back to him and told him he has a Windows Mobile device - NOT ANDROID, and boy oh boy, was he pissed!!!! LMAO
Poor guy!
"If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it."
I let him play with my Nexus for a few minutes. He offered to buy it from me for $450 .... nuh uh homeboy! This is my baby!

Mytouch 3g slide falling behind?

Every phone is practically getting froyo or has a date around when, but t-mobile, and htc are keeping quiet about it. What do you guys think?
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using Tapatalk

I kept hearing at least by the end of the year. Some people say since we got that one OTA update, it means we probably won't be getting Froyo for a while...
I dunno though, it'd be nice. :x

The Slide is getting FroYo although no dates have been given

I think you guys won't get it.for a while...my friend has a slide, and he is a bit pissed that he won't be getting froyo soon
sent from jdfroyo v2.0 EVO-lution

Just be patient, all i know is that it better come before 2011, or else.

I could try to get a port going.....
sent from jdfroyo v2.0 EVO-lution

I just really want froyo....
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using Tapatalk

I heard maybe around October but nothing etched in stone. Its just a waiting game but I am sure we will get it eventually.

Are you guys KIDDING? You are whining on an android modding site, that you dont have froyo!? when they are a plethora of guides and FROYO ROMS to choose from!? Seriously..

@jdv28 not everybody roots so if you are here to talk crap then don't even bother, no life
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JDV28 said:
Are you guys KIDDING? You are whining on an android modding site, that you dont have froyo!? when they are a plethora of guides and FROYO ROMS to choose from!? Seriously..
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Plus I think they want Espresso Froyo, not vanilla Froyo.

The thing is that the Froyo is "comming soon" and we the users who haven't rooted yet are undecided to whether wait and get the clean update, or choose to figure the root thong out and get Froyo and its features nooow.
Right now I'm gathering information, reading tutorials, and understanding everything to be ready to root and flash Cyanogen Rom, now I just hope that by the time I do all this I don't want to hear "hey yo heard the news!? Froyo for Slide is hea!" I'd be maaad!!
But this thought comes to my mind... Ain't I getting the same thing?? The difference is that I'd be rooted...
Fuerza, Intelligencia, Paciensia, es Tranquilidad.
¤MyTouch 3G Slide HTC Espresso¤

Yes if you were to go and root your phone, you can have froyo all day, but everyone is waiting for an official release so they can keep the Sense UI, which has all the nice widgets and such. I myself am skeptical as to when that will happen. I like froyo and all, but I've always been a fan of the Sense UI, so ill stick it out, occasionally flashing all the other great roms we have.
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Tzatlacael said:
The thing is that the Froyo is "comming soon" and we the users who haven't rooted yet are undecided to whether wait and get the clean update, or choose to figure the root thong out and get Froyo and its features nooow.
Right now I'm gathering information, reading tutorials, and understanding everything to be ready to root and flash Cyanogen Rom, now I just hope that by the time I do all this I don't want to hear "hey yo heard the news!? Froyo for Slide is hea!" I'd be maaad!!
But this thought comes to my mind... Ain't I getting the same thing?? The difference is that I'd be rooted...
Fuerza, Intelligencia, Paciensia, es Tranquilidad.
¤MyTouch 3G Slide HTC Espresso¤
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Why would you be mad?...I think you dont completely understand the whole concept of XDA...Devs can make a rooted version of a OTA rom, including an Froyo Esp when its released...So no worries, have root makes the phone...well yours! Before you didnt have full control and know you do, ive been using android since last october and had the chance to use eclair,froyo,sense,espresso all on my g1, now that i have a slide i only want sense non of that boring vanilla crap, that can kick rocks or something. Im all about Eye-candy, i get bored of looking at vanilla android.

Ace42 said:
Why would you be mad?...I think you dont completely understand the whole concept of XDA...Devs can make a rooted version of a OTA rom, including an Froyo Esp when its released...So no worries, have root makes the phone...well yours! Before you didnt have full control and know you do, ive been using android since last october and had the chance to use eclair,froyo,sense,espresso all on my g1, now that i have a slide i only want sense non of that boring vanilla crap, that can kick rocks or something. Im all about Eye-candy, i get bored of looking at vanilla android.
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plus, an official ota will also improve all current froyo builds for the MTS. alot of stuff can be ported and fixed like bluetooth, wifi, etc...

It took me ages to decide to root, and once I did, i went back to the stock rom (rooted). Two years ago my phone was a P.O.S. till Cyanogen came up and beat it into shape. Now i have a decent device with OK software. We've come a long way and more and more people are happy with stock. Once they work the bugs out of Cyanogenmod I will probably move ove. Till then, i am good.

2.2 for the Slide should be out before the end of the summer according to our HTC rep,most likely sometime in September. The other bit of good news is that it will include WiFi calling ability.

Ace42 said:
Why would you be mad?...I think you dont completely understand the whole concept of XDA...Devs can make a rooted version of a OTA rom, including an Froyo Esp when its released...So no worries, have root makes the phone...well yours! Before you didnt have full control and know you do, ive been using android since last october and had the chance to use eclair,froyo,sense,espresso all on my g1, now that i have a slide i only want sense non of that boring vanilla crap, that can kick rocks or something. Im all about Eye-candy, i get bored of looking at vanilla android.
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Yes I understand, man this developers are awesome!
How ever, as for what I've seen the root method is still complicated for the MyTouch Slide, 2 procedures to root and one to flash a room, (I'd like CyanogenMod)
I've dealed with Sony Ericsson Walkman phones modding, but Android's are more complex xO
The things that make me feel like trying it out are:
-Froyo of course..
-Full Flash Player 10.1
-Install apps on SD (I've read it requires more things like a partition and don't know what else)
-Live Wallpapers
-make it mine.....
The things that pull me back and make me feel like not. trying:
What if battery life was better in stock rom??
The tutorials sound a lil' experimental
Besides rooting and rom flashing, there also this Radio thing.... is it nesesary or optional??
I'd like to save my self fun time and head breaking from not trying. THEN WHY I AM HERE?!---- Because I'm undecideeeeeeed xO
Fuerza, Inteligencia, Paciensia, es Tranquilidad.
¤MyTouch 3G Slide HTC Espresso¤

Tzatlacael said:
Yes I understand, man this developers are awesome!
How ever, as for what I've seen the root method is still complicated for the MyTouch Slide, 2 procedures to root and one to flash a room, (I'd like CyanogenMod)
I've dealed with Sony Ericsson Walkman phones modding, but Android's are more complex xO
The things that make me feel like trying it out are:
-Froyo of course..
-Full Flash Player 10.1
-Install apps on SD (I've read it requires more things like a partition and don't know what else)
-Live Wallpapers
-make it mine.....
The things that pull me back and make me feel like not. trying:
What if battery life was better in stock rom??
The tutorials sound a lil' experimental
Besides rooting and rom flashing, there also this Radio thing.... is it nesesary or optional??
I'd like to save my self fun time and head breaking from not trying. THEN WHY I AM HERE?!---- Because I'm undecideeeeeeed xO
Fuerza, Inteligencia, Paciensia, es Tranquilidad.
¤MyTouch 3G Slide HTC Espresso¤
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Trust me battery wont change just cause you rooted, some say Froyo has "better" battery life, now i cant promise cause i dont use froyo on my slide.I oc and get 1 day+....Well depending on usage of course.
You need to upgrade your radio too, it is very simple to root, i rooted my slide twice with the new new method that just came out(1-2 weeks ago)

Also some people are 15, and have their parents paid the bill, as well as paying for warranty every month, so rooting is not an option for me.
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Sticking with stock

I rooted my EVO 4G which came with GB preloaded, have tried a few different ROM's but have found that none are as good as stock. I had the HTC Hero for a while running CM and it was pretty good, however for the EVO to many things don't work just right with alot of these ROMS. The GB stock for the EVO is pretty good on battery. What really bothers me with CM is the camera doesn't work with Skype, and with Qik either. Can't wait for a final stable to come from CM.
Rafael Garces
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I suggest you get a stock sprint rom from on here that removes all the clutter sprints forces on its stock rom that comes with the phone. Will make your experience a bit faster and may improve battery life a bit.
You could also try setcpu to underclock your phone when the screen is off in order to save battery.

There is no way and I repeat NO WAY that stock GB runs better than any rom on this forum. It's overloaded with bloatware and all sorts of other memory hogs. With you being certified in both apple and pc, you should be able to notice this. You should try out other roms other than CM7. There's other good stuff out there. I would give synergy or synergy kingdom a try.

+1 for synergy aswell, using it and loving it so far

Does everything work on synergy? Including skype and qik video calls?
Rafael Garces
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quique18 said:
Does everything work on synergy? Including skype and qik video calls?
Rafael Garces
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Why wouldn't it? Its android and those apps should work with all android phones.... But too answer your question Yes....
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Because the video calls don't work in CM7 that's why I'm asking. Also had problems switching front and back cameras.
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As much respect as I have for the devs on here I kind have to agree with the op. I have been running from stock roms for over a year and have tried them all. I like alot of the features the devs put in them but I can't seem to find one that is the end all rom. I recently got a tablet and flashed haus stock gb and love it. I can still feather, battery is good and everything works. Still swap prls at will. Got hdmi out on the tab so that's not a concern. Just my two pennies but please devs don't stop doing what you do. The more you guys do the more you and we learn. I will still continue my flashing addiction now that I have boot manager. Lol
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Because the video calls don't work in CM7 that's why I'm asking. Also had problems switching front and back cameras.
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Are you sure its not just a bad flash or something?
Front camera works fine on 180 nightly for me I just checked.

Can you switch cameras within skype or qik?
Rafael Garces
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Can you switch cameras within skype or qik?
Rafael Garces
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Honestly can't say I've ever used either app.

quique18 said:
I rooted my EVO 4G which came with GB preloaded, have tried a few different ROM's but have found that none are as good as stock. I had the HTC Hero for a while running CM and it was pretty good, however for the EVO to many things don't work just right with alot of these ROMS. The GB stock for the EVO is pretty good on battery. What really bothers me with CM is the camera doesn't work with Skype, and with Qik either. Can't wait for a final stable to come from CM.
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I've experimented with a couple of roms but I usually find myself going back to the stock configuration too. Trying Synergy now, maybe it will woo me away.

I tried synergy when I first rooted a few weeks ago, I'm pretty sure that I wasn't able to switch from front camera to back camera within video apps and that's what made me go back to stock, same problem with cm7.
Rafael Garces
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tempe38 said:
I've experimented with a couple of roms but I usually find myself going back to the stock configuration too. Trying Synergy now, maybe it will woo me away.
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Same here. I'll continue trying new roms if for no other reason than it's just fun firing up a new one... But contrary to most everything I have read on these forums, the stock configuration seems to get the best battery life.

I agree with last comment.
Rafael Garces
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sswindows said:
Same here. I'll continue trying new roms if for no other reason than it's just fun firing up a new one... But contrary to most everything I have read on these forums, the stock configuration seems to get the best battery life.
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Would you point me where can i get the 2.3 stock rom?
thanks

Ice Cream Sandwich

Sooooooo conference is over... I can just image what can be done through development on phones now. Now that the SDK is available, hopfully we will see some ICS this month? Im excited!
What are your favorite features? (If you watched the conference)

Without source code we're basically SOL for a daily driver, but SDK ROMs are cool to check out
Sent from my Droid Incredible Running CM7

The face unlock seems cool but what is your in a dark place like a bar. I hope they have an alternate way to unlocking it in that situation.
The new camera app looks sweet and I love how fast it can snap pictures on the Galaxy Nexus.
Taking out physical buttons was brilliant. Not only does it make the screen bigger but this way you can have what ever buttons you like (fully customizable). Unlike now as I never use the search button on my Dinc.

i Love the idea of the facial recognition, im sure rooted devices could eventually impliment thaf into unlocking apps too.
and when they had the mess up, it looked like it went to the pattern unlock, so i guess thats a back up.
the buttons was also great, much more room for larger screens, but the lack of physical buttons also worries me a bit.
hopefully some nice development will come out of this, so far i think this is the best android version with the most features and ui changes
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Someone will get the SDK on the DInc, Gingerbread was on our device by this time of night last year....they're just lagging behind xD

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Someone will get the SDK on the DInc, Gingerbread was on our device by this time of night last year....they're just lagging behind xD
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BAM!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309601
Well, I think it's the ICS apps at least...

Can't wait to so CM8/9 to start showing up. Please make it work on the Incredible.(and the RZR too)

Yeah hope we get some ICS roms soon. Since I'm holding out on a Droid 4 or anything with a QWERTY keyboard, that's not that Samsung toy

more info: http://lifehacker.com/5851162/first-look-at-the-highly-polished-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich

If some roms get good enough, i might ditch miui and give it a try. its exciting to see what all has been put into it.
hats off for google!
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Here's my question...
The ICS Google Music app was already leaked a couple weeks ago. Will the other updated apps (like Gmail, for example) be made available to Gingerbread users as well (either via apks or official market update)?

Phillip Fry said:
The face unlock seems cool but what is your in a dark place like a bar.
Without a front facing camera, facial unlocking doesn't seem practical on our device
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I like the new font.

it may not seem practical with our phones, but you could always use the other camera, turn your phone facing you, and hope it recognized you.
the bricked layout is nice, its not as simple as windows phones, but its a great balance between simplicity and advanced customizability.
also i believe some apks in ics will be ported for other android versions too.
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demarcmj said:
Here's my question...
The ICS Google Music app was already leaked a couple weeks ago. Will the other updated apps (like Gmail, for example) be made available to Gingerbread users as well (either via apks or official market update)?
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Yes, most likely through market updates. Although if your willing to try you could attempt to install the apk from the system dump. I might mess something else up though, and even if it didn't I don't think the gmail widget would work.
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Edit: don't try, it won't work unless its Deodexed

I think there were a lot of decent updates but truthfully, my life is run by my calendar and I think that was a great update.. looking forward!