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ROM Manager - Where's the beef?

So I decided to buy ROM Manager to support the project but have to admit I was a little disappointed. Sadly I prefer the candy coating of Sense to that of CM. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to like in CM too. I just tend to like the polish of Sense. Regardless, I had thought I might have direct access to many of the ROMs I've seen throughout the forums. Apparently that's not the case. Does ROM Manager only support CM ROMs?
No worries. I know I could get a refund for the App and return it but I'm cool with it. Maybe in the future more ROMs will become available for it for the Incredible.

Rom Manager supports virtually any rom, it's just a matter of the author setting up his server to work with Rom Manager AFAIK. More will be added eventually.

The chefs have to opt in to be included in ROM manager. Moto Droid had tons of stuff to choose from and I loved it. I have yet to see anything interesting in ROM Manager for the Incredible. Urge your favorite chefs to participate!

Ok, thanks guys. Hopefully things will get more active in the future then.

ROM Manager will gain more roms in due time, there isn't really alot of roms out for the inc as it is now. Also like mentioned its up to the rom devs to put them on there. They will come.
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I used to be a fan of Sense, but the fact of the matter is that it's bloated.
There are plenty of alternatives in a ROM like CM for all of the Sense features you'd miss.

Also u can download any ROM and use ROM Manager to install it. Just download rom go into rom manager and choose install from SD. Imho its easier than booting into recovery and installing. So, i. A sense it does support everything else. Its also ez to manage and restore ur backups through ROM manager. Once u use it for a while and figure it out it can b a very handy tool if u are addicted to flashing ROMS. Goodluck i hope this can b of assistance to u
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Yeah the developer of ROM Manager strongly encourages all devs to submit their ROMs... Other phones such as the Moto Droid have a much larger selection... As ROM development gets further along, there will be more on ROM Manager for Incredible as well.

I think the incredible has been hurt by the lack of phones available. I don't recall the original moto droid having inventory issues like the incredible. I think this has hindered rom development and availability of different roms. Imagine if we did not have months of no incredible phones available. The popularity of the incredible might be different, thus in my mind making the demand and supply of roms more available.
I am a big fan of Cyanogen's roms so not that big of a deal for me. I know that once the drivers are released the camera will be fixed. I am wondering if we will be able to have video out with cyan's roms?
Either way - rom manager is a great program and has a lot of different functionalities and uses. Some listed below:
flashing other roms (duh)
nandroid
partition sd card
fix permissions
Let's hope that HTC releases the drivers soon

m1k3- said:
I used to be a fan of Sense, but the fact of the matter is that it's bloated.
There are plenty of alternatives in a ROM like CM for all of the Sense features you'd miss.
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No there isnt ... there are a few similar apps that just dont quite do it and there are others that are such crapware you would be embarrassed to show your phone to anyone. Seriously when i went with a vanilla UI and tried to find alternatives to Sense widgets and apps, I found out just how crappy the apps were on this OS.

fader01 said:
No there isnt ... there are a few similar apps that just dont quite do it and there are others that are such crapware you would be embarrassed to show your phone to anyone. Seriously when i went with a vanilla UI and tried to find alternatives to Sense widgets and apps, I found out just how crappy the apps were on this OS.
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Well I'll have to half agree with you there, there are some Sense widgets that I could never find replacements for. It's really a trade off, although it would be nice if we could somehow extract some of those to be used with a 3rd party or even stock launcher

Looks like SkyRaider was added to ROM Manager

larsrya8 said:
Looks like SkyRaider was added to ROM Manager
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LOL! I'd like to think I may have had something to do with that. I PM'd him earlier and in short time he replied letting me know he was going to add it. Maybe he was going to do it anyway, I don't know.
Regardless, it GREAT that other cookers are starting to get in on the action. I think more people will end up trying their ROMs too. It's a win - win for everyone.

BossMafia2 said:
Well I'll have to half agree with you there, there are some Sense widgets that I could never find replacements for. It's really a trade off, although it would be nice if we could somehow extract some of those to be used with a 3rd party or even stock launcher
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Launcher Pro is going to support that.
Sounds interesting, but it'd be nice if your battery lasts longer than 20 minutes on a full charge, unlike when you're running Sense.

Btw camera is working on cm6 for the inc supposedly. So maybe the dev of skyraider can implement the fix some how.
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luniz7 said:
Btw camera is working on cm6 for the inc supposedly. So maybe the dev of skyraider can implement the fix some how.
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Where did you hear that the camera is working for cm 6?
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CM6 Inc test 8 is on ROM Manager now (under the Koush section). Camera works, camcorder still broken.
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luniz7 said:
Btw camera is working on cm6 for the inc supposedly. So maybe the dev of skyraider can implement the fix some how.
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I think I saw something posted in ROM Manager in the Sky Raider area to fix this. Don't know the specifics or if the video is working. I plan on installing the ROM when I get some free time later.

Ice Cream Sandwhich Video!!#Real

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/28/ice-cream-sandwich-gets-a-two-minute-tour-courtesy-of-a-lucky-e/
Update:The person who posted the video had his phone wiped by google remotely an the phone was checked out by a dev an he said everything was in system was wiped an the phone wont boot

Fake.. look at android version
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It is not final version it has not been picked an did u see it that is not fake that would be really hard to fake an also did u see leaks from before it matches it exacly an other info from 4chan

Doh.
Custom rom..
Same info? Eh..yha duuh?
Its all from the same guy.
You really think this is hard?
If this was real.why would it use froyo and samsung icons?
And why would the version name be like that?
It never was on all other versions.even in alpha.
And the whole ebay storry.really? You think thats real?
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ghost010 said:
Doh.
Custom rom..
Same info? Eh..yha duuh?
Its all from the same guy.
You really think this is hard?
If this was real.why would it use froyo and samsung icons?
And why would the version name be like that?
It never was on all other versions.even in alpha.
And the whole ebay storry.really? You think thats real?
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How do you know if it is from same guy
what samsung icons an they maybe used froyo icon because it match the rest of the theme
the version is like that maybe because it is going to be for tablets an phones so they have yet to choose
u never know stranger stuff have happend
also look at the menu look how it is organized an the lookscreen an the multitasking the launcher just watch the video an see all the diffrences do you know how hard that would be to fake!!!

Its real and dissapointing.
Looks like cm7 with a few nice things
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I think its just to Polish android not complete over haul we will see Oct 11 when its supposed to be official an they should show off prime
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#NotReal
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I'm not too sure myself if this real or not, however what irks me is how people seem to be disappointed at googles lack of "cosmetic" changes.
Really?
It took ios five iterations before making major design changes to their software the- ability to change your wallpaper and implementation of folders. What they added the most was features. What google accomplished with gingerbread most was making the OS look as if it was made by one person and ICS looks no different.
WinPho7 Mango? Still looking square. What was added? FEATURES.
What I look forward to most is the the solution to fragmentation that plaguing the OS and talks of being optimized for dual core devices. At this age of Android design takes a backstage to performance.
Too ugly for you? Slap ADW or Launcher Pro and call it a day.

Top Reasons why its real
1.The lockscreen
2.The Transtion when he opened settings
3.Multitasking menu
4.The Widgets in app draw
5.The Settings menu
6.Screen rotation animation
7.Google apps folder
8.The launcher

why doesnt he just install rom manager and post it on here?

Google wiped it but they were able to get a system dump an there a few devs that have it including the legend Chainfire

the video looks real.. Cool

Jasonhunterx said:
Google wiped it but they were able to get a system dump an there a few devs that have it including the legend Chainfire
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How can google entirely wipe a ROM just like that remotely?

Its a know feature in android its to protect information they can wipe everything an the phone was stolen so they had the right to
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[Q] Let's talk about ICS

There currently couple of ICS Roms now in our forum (MIUI, Virtuous, CM9, and CG). But my question is, I am a real beginner when it comes to phone system devs, so, when I tried all the newest version of each ICS Roms, I do not feel any major differences. The camera does not work, same issues with crashing, slowness, and etc. I am not complaining about the issues and bugs, but I am wondering what's the difference between each rom? Are there any major difference? And what are we expecting next for the rom? Camera?

theonlyhan said:
There currently couple of ICS Roms now in our forum (MIUI, Virtuous, CM9, and CG). But my question is, I am a real beginner when it comes to phone system devs, so, when I tried all the newest version of each ICS Roms, I do not feel any major differences. The camera does not work, same issues with crashing, slowness, and etc. I am not complaining about the issues and bugs, but I am wondering what's the difference between each rom? Are there any major difference? And what are we expecting next for the rom? Camera?
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OK first of all MIUI ICS is much different then the other ics roms there is more customization in a much easier way and a whole different experience even thought they come from the same source I believe. Now when is comes down to the difference between virtuous and CM9 is the mods and other stuff that you won't notice I personally like virtuous it looks more professional with the mods such as the setting toggle in the notification bar its just me. CG is more of a stock experience so you won't see any mods just pure stock experience. That's the major changes I see and with the bugs I don't really know but there all being worked on with pretty much Feb so if camera doesn't work with one it won't work with the other just give him time I'm sure its coming very soon
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This is where I get partially confused, i was running MIUIce Cream Sandwich (ICS v4.0.1) and have had NO issues whatsoever, the camera works, video recording works, and it is fast as all get out (3200-3300 quad consistent o/c to 1.5GHz). I was trying (and failing thus far) to find the camera framework, and hardware ID information from this ROM and inject it into one of the new ICS ROMs we have available.
what all would i need to pull from MIUIce cream sandwich in order to get a working camera in any of the other ICS roms? i know at least i would need to pull the camera .so files from system/lib, but is there any other completely necessary files that should be pulled to get this to work?
im really hoping that a dev stumbles across this and could point me in the right direction, because the camera CAN work, and i have a feeling i am really close to getting it to work, but i don't have the know how (quite yet) of the more experienced devs here.
i really wish it was as easy as my GS4G was when GB ROM leaks started surfacing, that was a 5 minute fix once the right tools came along lol

foxxx5oh said:
This is where I get partially confused, i was running MIUIce Cream Sandwich (ICS v4.0.1) and have had NO issues whatsoever, the camera works, video recording works, and it is fast as all get out (3200-3300 quad consistent o/c to 1.5GHz). I was trying (and failing thus far) to find the camera framework, and hardware ID information from this ROM and inject it into one of the new ICS ROMs we have available.
what all would i need to pull from MIUIce cream sandwich in order to get a working camera in any of the other ICS roms? i know at least i would need to pull the camera .so files from system/lib, but is there any other completely necessary files that should be pulled to get this to work?
im really hoping that a dev stumbles across this and could point me in the right direction, because the camera CAN work, and i have a feeling i am really close to getting it to work, but i don't have the know how (quite yet) of the more experienced devs here.
i really wish it was as easy as my GS4G was when GB ROM leaks started surfacing, that was a 5 minute fix once the right tools came along lol
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I believe that you are running a hybrid version that isn't really ics if your camera is working. This would explain why you aren't having the same problems as others running ics roms.
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eqjunkie829 said:
I believe that you are running a hybrid version that isn't really ics if your camera is working. This would explain why you aren't having the same problems as others running ics roms.
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i didnt think a hybrid would come up as actual ICS though...?

foxxx5oh said:
i didnt think a hybrid would come up as actual ICS though...?
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All you have to change is the build.prop to say a different version.
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eqjunkie829 said:
All you have to change is the build.prop to say a different version.
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Good to know! Thanks for the info!

foxxx50h, were you running the now discontinued Galnet Miui release? If so, I know what you mean. Since I was using that and it was great. The only serious glitch was that the market place crashed whenever you tried to preview the pics.
If you want something like that, Dark_Sys released a newer version, but it reads a GB code and not ICS. And it's quite good and stable. Everything works too. Super great on battery.

madmanmostafa said:
foxxx50h, were you running the now discontinued Galnet Miui release? If so, I know what you mean. Since I was using that and it was great. The only serious glitch was that the market place crashed whenever you tried to preview the pics.
If you want something like that, Dark_Sys released a newer version, but it reads a GB code and not ICS. And it's quite good and stable. Everything works too. Super great on battery.
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That's the one! You wouldn't happen to have a link for that download, would ya?
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Thanks for the info guys, and I really want to try out the ICS (or hybrid) where the cam works. Other than that, I think all current ROMs have their own forte.

theonlyhan said:
Thanks for the info guys, and I really want to try out the ICS (or hybrid) where the cam works. Other than that, I think all current ROMs have their own forte.
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Then you can buy a Gnex or wait I know I'm starting to envy the Gnex. I'm just waiting for the HTC Ville which (Should) be unveiled at MWC towards the end of this month..It should be an absolute BEAST

i've been using creamed glacier since december as a daily. two main issues on it are the camera and low mic volume - though that comes and goes.
quattro was a mess for me. once booted the setup routine would crash out and widgets would constantly crash the launcher no matter what i tried.
testing out cm9 right now. big problem is that launcher (NOVA even) crashes a lot. otherwise call volume is great. runs decent. one great thing there is that it actually contacts google and restores apps. plus i received an email from google congratulating me on my purchase of a galaxy nexus

Nicgraner said:
Then you can buy a Gnex or wait I know I'm starting to envy the Gnex. I'm just waiting for the HTC Ville which (Should) be unveiled at MWC towards the end of this month..It should be an absolute BEAST
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Isn't Ville got revealed? I think it's pretty much the same as Amaze!? And Google Nexus is expensive still, so I'm thinking about Amaze.

incantevole said:
i've been using creamed glacier since december as a daily. two main issues on it are the camera and low mic volume - though that comes and goes.
quattro was a mess for me. once booted the setup routine would crash out and widgets would constantly crash the launcher no matter what i tried.
testing out cm9 right now. big problem is that launcher (NOVA even) crashes a lot. otherwise call volume is great. runs decent. one great thing there is that it actually contacts google and restores apps. plus i received an email from google congratulating me on my purchase of a galaxy nexus
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LOL @google, that's pretty legit heih! Yeah, I really want the cam feature, and doesn't Amaze has pretty much the same spec (1.5 dual, and stuff?), so that's my next target, when I collected enough money after I paid my tuition

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[Q] CM7 versus CM9: which one to run?

I've tried both, but I still feel like I don't quite have the big picture of what their respective strengths and weaknesses are on the Epic. They both have a little development ways to go of course, but assuming that's not an issue -- what are your opinions?

Depends on what you use your epic for and if you want the bleeding edge...
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!

You might as well ask Froyo or Gingerbread? Same thing. One is Gingerbread based and the other is Ice Cream Sandwich based.
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I'm not so much looking for a personal recommendation as for a summary of features and differences, which I haven't really found elsewhere.

2.3 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
4.0 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
First thing that popped up after a Google search.

Thanks. Much of the stuff in that 4.0 link is available in CM7 though, either out of the box or with apps, like swipe to dismiss notifications, lock screen actions, resizable homescreen widgets, visual voicemail, taking screenshots ...
Just thought it might be interesting to have a discussion from the POV of in-the-trenches Epic Cyanogen users.

The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.

Gavisann said:
The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.
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agreed,
There are a handful of apps you can only use with ICS, as of right now, we cannot use google wallet on CM7, but hopefully with the Beta upgrade of CM9 we will be able to utilize google wallet. Among others like Chrome Beta... There are also cool upgrades like the panoramic camera.
Also if you invest enough time configuring it, the face unlock is a neat little feature.

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Just thought it might be interesting to have a discussion from the POV of in-the-trenches Epic Cyanogen users.
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Hard to get a handle on that because most of the CM9 feature set (as in additions to stock AOSP) haven't yet been finalized upstream and released. As such, right this moment, CM7 does much much more as far as tweaks go....thus the links to the stock info.

wscott9903 said:
agreed,
There are a handful of apps you can only use with ICS, as of right now, we cannot use google wallet on CM7, but hopefully with the Beta upgrade of CM9 we will be able to utilize google wallet. Among others like Chrome Beta... There are also cool upgrades like the panoramic camera.
Also if you invest enough time configuring it, the face unlock is a neat little feature.
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I think it's going to be mighty difficult to use Google Wallet without an NFC chip.

Gavisann said:
The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.
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This is what's convincing me. However I'm unsure whether my battery life will be good enough to last a full day without having to charge it. Another thing is just the fact that there are a few glitches. I think I may try it again, but I'm not the guy that likes to spend 30 min getting everything set up after I flash cm9. I tried alpha0 in the past so I have an idea of what its like.
P.S. can you configure the buttons in the pulldown menu in cm9? For example, like add airplane mode and then move it in front of the wifi toggle?
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can you configure the buttons in the pulldown menu in cm9? For example, like add airplane mode and then move it in front of the wifi toggle?
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You can. CM9 has fewer Settings options than CM7, but that one's still there.

cm9 = native 4g tether.....the end.

Quicksand Jesus said:
cm9 = native 4g tether.....the end.
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I dont get 4G anyway. Besides theres an app that allows you to do it.
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Project Chameleon - Giving Android a new perspective

Hi guys, I just ran into this post demonstrating Project Chameleon and wanted to share this with you. I personally think it looks great and can't wait for it to be released, or even better, to be ported to the Xoom!
http://briefmobile.com/remember-project-chameleon-its-not-just-a-concept-after-all

Looks class, would love to try it out
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Its really fantastic

That's pretty damn slick.

Looks awesome - but will need a lot of work to be really useful. Similar to Cornerstone (which is epic as well but is too buggy at the moment).

Looks to heavy and cluttered for me.
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Looks impressive but has anyone heard anything on a timeline as far as when the general public would have access to it?

Looks good to me, however very "Metro" like, they need to get this out before Win8 lands..

Kickstarter for this project
Please sponsor if u r interested
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gaborvida/chameleon-a-better-home-screen-for-your-android-ta

That looks fantastic. Is it safe to say that it's a fully custom ROM though, like cornerstone? I assume you wouldn't be able to get that kind of function with just a custom launcher.

Aaron407 said:
That looks fantastic. Is it safe to say that it's a fully custom ROM though, like cornerstone? I assume you wouldn't be able to get that kind of function with just a custom launcher.
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Well in the interview he said it will be released in the play store. So I guess it is going to be a launcher.
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EvertorN said:
Well in the interview he said it will be released in the play store. So I guess it is going to be a launcher.
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Interesting. That + CM9 would be a fantastic combination.

Aaron407 said:
That looks fantastic. Is it safe to say that it's a fully custom ROM though, like cornerstone? I assume you wouldn't be able to get that kind of function with just a custom launcher.
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Looks pretty slick as an all-in-one package, but it doesn't look like anything that couldn't be accomplished right now with tasker, locale, your favorite widgets,and some hub-like home page setups, does it? A build your own variety would offer much more customization. Reminds me of an app I use on my note... car dock home. It is setup to recognize my dock or a bt connection in my car and brings up a totally new home screen with different apps and widgets, and cuts off wifi.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...er-home-screen-for-your-android-ta?ref=search
check it out they are asking for help if you do decide to donate $5 or more you get it before its official

Got my access to Project Chameleon Beta have it installed on my Xoom as we speak Very Impressive and I have to say it is VERY unlikely I will be going back to the default android launcher ANYTIME soon. Anyone who did get on-board via kickstarter can still get it now. Go to the site below for details.
http://chameleon.teknision.com/

Project Chameleon running on my Xoom

Wanted to support them earlier already, but was only do to so now since you can pay with paypal now. It really is still in beta mode, not all widgets are included either. Only instagram, twitter (2 options) weather, news (rss) and gmail. They included some wallpapers as well, but you can load your own too. It lags a little on Team Eos JB nightly, but they said they are working on it. I do hope for some more settings and gimmicks, and perhaps some mods. I really hope for some drawer mods though, as I prefer the stock one, preferably with some options (my other launcher is nova prime).
It has a lot of potential, so I think it's a good investment in the android modding.

So is chameleon just a fancy launcher?
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So is chameleon just a fancy launcher?
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So far, yes. I like it but it is still a beta product. I expect it to get much better and more feature rich.
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Any ETA?