[Q] CM7 versus CM9: which one to run? - Epic 4G General

I've tried both, but I still feel like I don't quite have the big picture of what their respective strengths and weaknesses are on the Epic. They both have a little development ways to go of course, but assuming that's not an issue -- what are your opinions?

Depends on what you use your epic for and if you want the bleeding edge...
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!

You might as well ask Froyo or Gingerbread? Same thing. One is Gingerbread based and the other is Ice Cream Sandwich based.
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I'm not so much looking for a personal recommendation as for a summary of features and differences, which I haven't really found elsewhere.

2.3 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
4.0 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
First thing that popped up after a Google search.

Thanks. Much of the stuff in that 4.0 link is available in CM7 though, either out of the box or with apps, like swipe to dismiss notifications, lock screen actions, resizable homescreen widgets, visual voicemail, taking screenshots ...
Just thought it might be interesting to have a discussion from the POV of in-the-trenches Epic Cyanogen users.

The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.

Gavisann said:
The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.
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agreed,
There are a handful of apps you can only use with ICS, as of right now, we cannot use google wallet on CM7, but hopefully with the Beta upgrade of CM9 we will be able to utilize google wallet. Among others like Chrome Beta... There are also cool upgrades like the panoramic camera.
Also if you invest enough time configuring it, the face unlock is a neat little feature.

eater99999 said:
Just thought it might be interesting to have a discussion from the POV of in-the-trenches Epic Cyanogen users.
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Hard to get a handle on that because most of the CM9 feature set (as in additions to stock AOSP) haven't yet been finalized upstream and released. As such, right this moment, CM7 does much much more as far as tweaks go....thus the links to the stock info.

wscott9903 said:
agreed,
There are a handful of apps you can only use with ICS, as of right now, we cannot use google wallet on CM7, but hopefully with the Beta upgrade of CM9 we will be able to utilize google wallet. Among others like Chrome Beta... There are also cool upgrades like the panoramic camera.
Also if you invest enough time configuring it, the face unlock is a neat little feature.
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I think it's going to be mighty difficult to use Google Wallet without an NFC chip.

Gavisann said:
The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.
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This is what's convincing me. However I'm unsure whether my battery life will be good enough to last a full day without having to charge it. Another thing is just the fact that there are a few glitches. I think I may try it again, but I'm not the guy that likes to spend 30 min getting everything set up after I flash cm9. I tried alpha0 in the past so I have an idea of what its like.
P.S. can you configure the buttons in the pulldown menu in cm9? For example, like add airplane mode and then move it in front of the wifi toggle?
Thanks
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can you configure the buttons in the pulldown menu in cm9? For example, like add airplane mode and then move it in front of the wifi toggle?
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You can. CM9 has fewer Settings options than CM7, but that one's still there.

cm9 = native 4g tether.....the end.

Quicksand Jesus said:
cm9 = native 4g tether.....the end.
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I dont get 4G anyway. Besides theres an app that allows you to do it.
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CyanogenMod vs MIUI

Why is Cyanogen the most widely discussed/used rom rather than MIUI? I just tried MIUI for the first time yesterday and im pretty impressed in about every way. It comes with an integrated way to customize every part of the rom, with lots of options. It comes with a firewall and a task killer, even if you probably dont need them. You can change the effect when moving between home screens. Customize the toggles in the status bar. It comes with a built in blacklist. Even the settings are more extensive. I mean the music app even find the lyrics to the song your listening to!
Is it just because it looks like the iphone, so you disregard it even though it has more features integrated more seamlessly?
Why?
CyanogenMod is supported on more devices thanks to a large dev team, faster (Android version) update pace & its a generally clean ROM with great codec support & other little tweaks that make a big difference. It has been around longer.
MIUI is a unique rom made by a great team of devs in China. It offers a great set of feature & a new experience. It requires a little more outside help (as far as U.S. users go) to get it going on other devices, not to mention the translation changes & hardware support. Hasn't been around as long.
Its not really a matter of it reminds me of ___, better than, as good or it does __ ___ __. That Cyanogen gets more viral commentary .vs any ROM.
MIUI is closed source. CyanogenMod is open source. Thats reason enough for a lot more discussion in here.
Besides... MIUI incorporated some good stuff from iPhone, but also some really crap things , like removing the app drawer. IMO
Also, where the hell is 4G? They've had it "in the works" for months and nothing. When they actually make it a fully-functioning EVO rom that makes use of the hardware I paid for, then I'll switch back to MIUI.
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Also, where the hell is 4G?
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lombas said:
MIUI is closed source...
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lombas said:
MIUI incorporated some good stuff from iPhone, but also some really crap things , like removing the app drawer. IMO
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I echo these same sentiments as the same reason why I haven't fully adopted MIUI. Beautiful launcher and Core apps is really how I think about it (and IMHO a little too iOS).
Cyanogen is Awesome, but MIUI is a dream. To me aleast, don't have no 4g in San Diego so who cares. I put all my app's in a folder and named it "app drawer" as for closed source, oh well. I'm not a developer by a long shot, so I don't care. It's all about preference and mine is MIUI. I'm hooked like a bad drug.
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popper668 said:
Cyanogen is Awesome, but MIUI is a dream. To me aleast, don't have no 4g in San Diego so who cares. I put all my app's in a folder and named it "app drawer" as for closed source, oh well. I'm not a developer by a long shot, so I don't care. It's all about preference and mine is MIUI. I'm hooked like a bad drug.
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Use Alt Drawer for your app drawer. I use it with ADW EX, even though there's already an app drawer. I'm running MIUI, but missed ADW so I switched back. It's really good and fits well with MIUI. Find an app drawer icon that you like and put it into your theme mtz with the package name for Alt Drawer & put it on your dock. Or do what I do and use an app like Button Shortcut to open it when you long-press the search button.
If you don't know how to change the icon, pm me and I'll do it for you. It's actually a bit faster & easier to do it than it is to explain it.
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I've tried MIUI twice, but I just can't stand it. Too much like iOS and I dislike the home screens.
I prefer my android to look like android, especially aosp.
Fadakar said:
Also, where the hell is 4G? They've had it "in the works" for months and nothing. When they actually make it a fully-functioning EVO rom that makes use of the hardware I paid for, then I'll switch back to MIUI.
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That has been answered 10,000 times. There will NEVER be 4G for MIUI unless the Chinese get 4G in Shanghai or they release the source code. If a tlittle bit of a faster data connection is enough to keep you away from the most innovative ROM out there, then buh bye.... Trust me, no one using MIUI will miss you
Also, other than no App drawer, MIUI is nothing like Iphone. I'm sick of that comparison, too.
Considering a large number of users use LPP, ADW EX and GO, not many are missing an app drawer, anyhow.
^Agree with Hipkat, MIUI is not to be compared to IOS. Only thing tht is happening to it is the 4G and that is subject to the chinese opening their source. As far as everything else, I had MIUI and is eye candy. One of the best made for androids phones.
HipKat said:
Considering a large number of users use LPP, ADW EX and GO, not many are missing an app drawer, anyhow.
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Folders FTW!
The question shouldn't be "which is better" but rather which fits you best. Both roms are excellent but one might keep you away from other due to the way it operates. Cm has tons of extras including adw launcher, 4G, etc which makes it the way it is.
While miui has the "iphone" look (yes it looks like iPhone so get it over it) and has that awesome customization market that let's you change almost anything on the phone.
I personally don't use either due to the fact that both have some kinks to work out but that doesn't stop me from trying both out every now and then
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Nick N said:
Folders FTW!
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Yah! Folders, FTW!!
Hey Nick where did u get that background
HTC EVO 4G
App drawer is a matter of preference. I'd rather organize my apps in different home screens or folders rather than be lumped into one massive list and hunt thru them. I have no idea why the app drawer is considered a great feature.
And if you really want it, there's an app on XDA which will do it.
In everything else, MIUI is leagues beyond other rom's. Contacts, dialer, sms, backup, theming, notifications, monitoring - all of these are best in class, and to even get close you have to get a bunch of extra apps in other rom's.
It may be inspired by iOS but it has more features than iOS or Android, is updated weekly, and runs faster.
Cyanogenmod never really did it for me. Granted I haven't tried it on the Evo 4G yet (used to have a Hero CDMA). All the extra stuff they added just never really grabbed me and the performance just never seemed as good as pure AOSP.
I really love MIUI. It's super fast and being able to customize everything really is nice. Plus since I'm an update junkie I love that there's new stuff every week.
I'm in Reno, NV, so there's no 4G so I don't really care about that. As for the app drawer, I don't see what the big deal is. Once I have the apps I use on my home screens I hardly every go into the app drawer.
I don't think one is better than another it just really comes down to preference.
I love them both and bounce between both. They both are great rom's based off a great os, so really do you have to pick? Just enjoy the freedom of being able to have a choice and not stuck with what your given... just my two cents...
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larry2513 said:
I love them both and bounce between both. They both are great rom's based off a great os, so really do you have to pick? Just enjoy the freedom of being able to have a choice and not stuck with what your given... just my two cents...
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I use both, usually get board about every other week and flash.
slimno19 said:
Hey Nick where did u get that background
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It was deep in the online wallpaper section. I found it while sitting in a meeting.
HipKat said:
That has been answered 10,000 times. There will NEVER be 4G for MIUI unless the Chinese get 4G in Shanghai or they release the source code. If a tlittle bit of a faster data connection is enough to keep you away from the most innovative ROM out there, then buh bye.... Trust me, no one using MIUI will miss you
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4G is my main reason that I haven't tried MIUI.
And in my area, I do get 4G and its significantly faster. There are lots of sprint users where I live, but most of them are on 3G it seems, so bandwidth on 4G is much more available. Now, its not that much faster than 3G if you are in a good unsaturated 3G area, but I am not. The 3G around here is very saturated.
So for me, 4G isn't a little bit faster, its way faster, so don't be quick to judge. If it weren't for lack 4G, I would definitely try it. I don't mind the iPhone inspiration that some others have issues with and I have heard very good things about MIUI, but lack of 4G really is a dealbreaker for me.

Ice Cream Sandwich

Sooooooo conference is over... I can just image what can be done through development on phones now. Now that the SDK is available, hopfully we will see some ICS this month? Im excited!
What are your favorite features? (If you watched the conference)
Without source code we're basically SOL for a daily driver, but SDK ROMs are cool to check out
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The face unlock seems cool but what is your in a dark place like a bar. I hope they have an alternate way to unlocking it in that situation.
The new camera app looks sweet and I love how fast it can snap pictures on the Galaxy Nexus.
Taking out physical buttons was brilliant. Not only does it make the screen bigger but this way you can have what ever buttons you like (fully customizable). Unlike now as I never use the search button on my Dinc.
i Love the idea of the facial recognition, im sure rooted devices could eventually impliment thaf into unlocking apps too.
and when they had the mess up, it looked like it went to the pattern unlock, so i guess thats a back up.
the buttons was also great, much more room for larger screens, but the lack of physical buttons also worries me a bit.
hopefully some nice development will come out of this, so far i think this is the best android version with the most features and ui changes
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Someone will get the SDK on the DInc, Gingerbread was on our device by this time of night last year....they're just lagging behind xD
Smokeey said:
Someone will get the SDK on the DInc, Gingerbread was on our device by this time of night last year....they're just lagging behind xD
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BAM!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309601
Well, I think it's the ICS apps at least...
Can't wait to so CM8/9 to start showing up. Please make it work on the Incredible.(and the RZR too)
Yeah hope we get some ICS roms soon. Since I'm holding out on a Droid 4 or anything with a QWERTY keyboard, that's not that Samsung toy
more info: http://lifehacker.com/5851162/first-look-at-the-highly-polished-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich
If some roms get good enough, i might ditch miui and give it a try. its exciting to see what all has been put into it.
hats off for google!
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Here's my question...
The ICS Google Music app was already leaked a couple weeks ago. Will the other updated apps (like Gmail, for example) be made available to Gingerbread users as well (either via apks or official market update)?
Phillip Fry said:
The face unlock seems cool but what is your in a dark place like a bar.
Without a front facing camera, facial unlocking doesn't seem practical on our device
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I like the new font.
it may not seem practical with our phones, but you could always use the other camera, turn your phone facing you, and hope it recognized you.
the bricked layout is nice, its not as simple as windows phones, but its a great balance between simplicity and advanced customizability.
also i believe some apks in ics will be ported for other android versions too.
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demarcmj said:
Here's my question...
The ICS Google Music app was already leaked a couple weeks ago. Will the other updated apps (like Gmail, for example) be made available to Gingerbread users as well (either via apks or official market update)?
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Yes, most likely through market updates. Although if your willing to try you could attempt to install the apk from the system dump. I might mess something else up though, and even if it didn't I don't think the gmail widget would work.
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Edit: don't try, it won't work unless its Deodexed
I think there were a lot of decent updates but truthfully, my life is run by my calendar and I think that was a great update.. looking forward!

[Q] Let's talk about ICS

There currently couple of ICS Roms now in our forum (MIUI, Virtuous, CM9, and CG). But my question is, I am a real beginner when it comes to phone system devs, so, when I tried all the newest version of each ICS Roms, I do not feel any major differences. The camera does not work, same issues with crashing, slowness, and etc. I am not complaining about the issues and bugs, but I am wondering what's the difference between each rom? Are there any major difference? And what are we expecting next for the rom? Camera?
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There currently couple of ICS Roms now in our forum (MIUI, Virtuous, CM9, and CG). But my question is, I am a real beginner when it comes to phone system devs, so, when I tried all the newest version of each ICS Roms, I do not feel any major differences. The camera does not work, same issues with crashing, slowness, and etc. I am not complaining about the issues and bugs, but I am wondering what's the difference between each rom? Are there any major difference? And what are we expecting next for the rom? Camera?
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OK first of all MIUI ICS is much different then the other ics roms there is more customization in a much easier way and a whole different experience even thought they come from the same source I believe. Now when is comes down to the difference between virtuous and CM9 is the mods and other stuff that you won't notice I personally like virtuous it looks more professional with the mods such as the setting toggle in the notification bar its just me. CG is more of a stock experience so you won't see any mods just pure stock experience. That's the major changes I see and with the bugs I don't really know but there all being worked on with pretty much Feb so if camera doesn't work with one it won't work with the other just give him time I'm sure its coming very soon
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This is where I get partially confused, i was running MIUIce Cream Sandwich (ICS v4.0.1) and have had NO issues whatsoever, the camera works, video recording works, and it is fast as all get out (3200-3300 quad consistent o/c to 1.5GHz). I was trying (and failing thus far) to find the camera framework, and hardware ID information from this ROM and inject it into one of the new ICS ROMs we have available.
what all would i need to pull from MIUIce cream sandwich in order to get a working camera in any of the other ICS roms? i know at least i would need to pull the camera .so files from system/lib, but is there any other completely necessary files that should be pulled to get this to work?
im really hoping that a dev stumbles across this and could point me in the right direction, because the camera CAN work, and i have a feeling i am really close to getting it to work, but i don't have the know how (quite yet) of the more experienced devs here.
i really wish it was as easy as my GS4G was when GB ROM leaks started surfacing, that was a 5 minute fix once the right tools came along lol
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This is where I get partially confused, i was running MIUIce Cream Sandwich (ICS v4.0.1) and have had NO issues whatsoever, the camera works, video recording works, and it is fast as all get out (3200-3300 quad consistent o/c to 1.5GHz). I was trying (and failing thus far) to find the camera framework, and hardware ID information from this ROM and inject it into one of the new ICS ROMs we have available.
what all would i need to pull from MIUIce cream sandwich in order to get a working camera in any of the other ICS roms? i know at least i would need to pull the camera .so files from system/lib, but is there any other completely necessary files that should be pulled to get this to work?
im really hoping that a dev stumbles across this and could point me in the right direction, because the camera CAN work, and i have a feeling i am really close to getting it to work, but i don't have the know how (quite yet) of the more experienced devs here.
i really wish it was as easy as my GS4G was when GB ROM leaks started surfacing, that was a 5 minute fix once the right tools came along lol
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I believe that you are running a hybrid version that isn't really ics if your camera is working. This would explain why you aren't having the same problems as others running ics roms.
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I believe that you are running a hybrid version that isn't really ics if your camera is working. This would explain why you aren't having the same problems as others running ics roms.
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i didnt think a hybrid would come up as actual ICS though...?
foxxx5oh said:
i didnt think a hybrid would come up as actual ICS though...?
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All you have to change is the build.prop to say a different version.
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eqjunkie829 said:
All you have to change is the build.prop to say a different version.
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Good to know! Thanks for the info!
foxxx50h, were you running the now discontinued Galnet Miui release? If so, I know what you mean. Since I was using that and it was great. The only serious glitch was that the market place crashed whenever you tried to preview the pics.
If you want something like that, Dark_Sys released a newer version, but it reads a GB code and not ICS. And it's quite good and stable. Everything works too. Super great on battery.
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foxxx50h, were you running the now discontinued Galnet Miui release? If so, I know what you mean. Since I was using that and it was great. The only serious glitch was that the market place crashed whenever you tried to preview the pics.
If you want something like that, Dark_Sys released a newer version, but it reads a GB code and not ICS. And it's quite good and stable. Everything works too. Super great on battery.
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That's the one! You wouldn't happen to have a link for that download, would ya?
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Thanks for the info guys, and I really want to try out the ICS (or hybrid) where the cam works. Other than that, I think all current ROMs have their own forte.
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Thanks for the info guys, and I really want to try out the ICS (or hybrid) where the cam works. Other than that, I think all current ROMs have their own forte.
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Then you can buy a Gnex or wait I know I'm starting to envy the Gnex. I'm just waiting for the HTC Ville which (Should) be unveiled at MWC towards the end of this month..It should be an absolute BEAST
i've been using creamed glacier since december as a daily. two main issues on it are the camera and low mic volume - though that comes and goes.
quattro was a mess for me. once booted the setup routine would crash out and widgets would constantly crash the launcher no matter what i tried.
testing out cm9 right now. big problem is that launcher (NOVA even) crashes a lot. otherwise call volume is great. runs decent. one great thing there is that it actually contacts google and restores apps. plus i received an email from google congratulating me on my purchase of a galaxy nexus
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Then you can buy a Gnex or wait I know I'm starting to envy the Gnex. I'm just waiting for the HTC Ville which (Should) be unveiled at MWC towards the end of this month..It should be an absolute BEAST
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Isn't Ville got revealed? I think it's pretty much the same as Amaze!? And Google Nexus is expensive still, so I'm thinking about Amaze.
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i've been using creamed glacier since december as a daily. two main issues on it are the camera and low mic volume - though that comes and goes.
quattro was a mess for me. once booted the setup routine would crash out and widgets would constantly crash the launcher no matter what i tried.
testing out cm9 right now. big problem is that launcher (NOVA even) crashes a lot. otherwise call volume is great. runs decent. one great thing there is that it actually contacts google and restores apps. plus i received an email from google congratulating me on my purchase of a galaxy nexus
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LOL @google, that's pretty legit heih! Yeah, I really want the cam feature, and doesn't Amaze has pretty much the same spec (1.5 dual, and stuff?), so that's my next target, when I collected enough money after I paid my tuition
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ICS -v- Task 14 /\ My Review

I have seen a lot of talk lately with people comparing the ICS development ROM's to Task 14.. I have been swapping back and forth almost daily between AOKP #23 and Task 14 Slim so here are my thoughts..
1st of all both are awesome ROM's that offer plusses and minuses depending on what each individual wants and needs.. These observations are based on MY wants and needs so opinions will vary.. The fact that Task 14, a HC 3.2 ROM even gets mentioned / compared to an ICS ROM speaks volumes about how good it is..
Things I like about AOKP #23:
--Browser hardware acceleration
--No screenshot soft key (I loathe that thing)
--ROM Control
--Ability to set # of homescreens
--Swipe to dismiss
Things I like about Task 14:
--Rock solid and stable
--Camera works for video chat
--Just as fast as ICS in many areas and faster in some
--Mini widgets
--Several awesome themes available
The AOKP is actually pretty stable for the most part and Roman and team have done an awesome job on it but remember it's a beta so there is issues and bugs at the time of this posting.. Task 14 is super rock solid and its really only limited by HC 3.2..
I honestly can't decide which I like better.. They both ROCK! I guess that's why I change between them daily..
A few AOKP issues I have is with apps and the screen.. Words with friends is a good example of this.. Also, the screen gets a little glitchy at times when viewing online images.. Nothing major and by no means a put down on AOKP...
I have had zero issues on Task 14 that are not widespread HC 3.2 related..
If you can live without the camera and are willing to experience a few minor bugs here and there then the AOKP may be for you.. If however you want rock solid with zero bugs, a working camera and a system that is just as fast then Task 14 may be for you..
These are MY thoughts and comparison of 2 kick a$$ ROM's... Thoughts and replies are welcome but please don't turn this thread into a pi$$ing match...
You're just asking for a pissing match. I'll just watch... for now...:sly:
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I hope not since they are both awesome ROM's...
I've tried ics, very fast and smooth without touchwiz is a godsend. There is only one 3g ics rom so I have not tried romanb's yet. 3g is a big deal to me. Other thing with isc is no proper USB/mass storage support. It does not show all files that I've downloaded from net except whatever files I transferred to tab. Camera is another big issue for me, or lack of. Video does not work also from the rom I tried. Some apps on market not supported also so cant update. That's my summary of isc. HC3.2 on the other hand is improving. I have not tried Task as again no 3g. I'm a big fan of Alterbridge and his Overcome roms. Been using his rom since the original Tab. His latest 2.3.0 soup up with pershoot kernel is more than great for me. ISC is great but for my daily usage, its not ready yet.
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I hope not since they are both awesome ROM's...
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Just wait its coming bro...
If you can read this it was sent using my GT-P7510.
I do realize this is XDA but I guess I hope we all will act like adults and that this mini review will help anyone who can't choose between these 2 awesome ROM's.. Heck I'm having a hard time choosing.. The OP was made on Task 14 and this post is getting made on AOKP..
Good comparsion between the two. Personally, I use Task14 with b00sted's ICS theme. No ICS can compare to it right now, but once the camera issue is solved, ICS will be boss.
All us Task fans are hoping for a Task ICS ROM soon.
BTW, good thread OP.
A Task ICS ROM will be awesome once it comes.. I'm back on the AOKP for this morning as least..
I think we scared off the ones that would have made this a pissing match. Good.
BTW- nice OP.
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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He is comparing what is available today. The OP is well aware that ICS is in development but he is looking for a daily driver and was looking for others opinions on what we use.
Until ICS is official there is no way to do a 1 for 1 comparison.
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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It's easy.. I use them both daily and figured my post might help others who are on the fence or not sure which to use..
Anything can be compared.. Pinto -v- Corvette or Blonde -v- Brunette ect....
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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Easy you try them both and yes ics is alpha but thats what is available now and is the point of this thread. I came to the same conclusion as the OP after using both kang versions. the arguably incremental improvement in smoothness does not outweigh the full functionality goodness of galaxytask
Adding Visidon even gives me face unlock features and with camera ics+ i get the camera panorama functionality on my galaxy task rom
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ICS ........... almost stable!
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How can you compare Android 4.0 (No official release and by the way in Alpha state) and Android 3.2?
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Even though it is supposed to be alpha (since the Camera mainly does not work and there are also some minor bugs), it is quite stable for daily use as I myself use it and the best part is there are some amazing customisation options ..... literally mind blowing!
Thanks for the review. Still haven't custom rom'd it up yet.
When does the official ics come out?
i have found that the battery in the latest ICS kangs (not the one on XDA as that doesnt get updated! but the one on rootzwiki) is by far lots better than any HC.
So indeed for an alpha release ICS is looking very good compare to an already establish HC rom.
So I can only imagine how good ICS will be when SS releases it...hopefully in April..
bit OT interesting that there are no leaks yet from samfirmware!
nandihno said:
i have found that the battery in the latest ICS kangs (not the one on XDA as that doesnt get updated! but the one on rootzwiki)
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Romanbb is constantly updating the AOKP...
wtgserpant said:
Even though it is supposed to be alpha (since the Camera mainly does not work and there are also some minor bugs), it is quite stable for daily use as I myself use it and the best part is there are some amazing customisation options ..... literally mind blowing!
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mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Benzoman said:
mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Lol im with benzoman on this one...
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Benzoman said:
mind blowing? seriously? did you just come from using my Packard bell 286 from the back of my closest? Just kidding. But mind blowing compared to what? stock?
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Agree as well... ICS is not mind blowing and is only slightly snappier than Taks 14 in some areas..

Do you guys want an updated ICS build, what kind?

Exactly what the thread title says...
As most of you should already be aware I have a gingerbread build that I try to provide something close to a monthly update on (plus or minus a few days). What I would like to know tonight is if y'all would like something similar with ICS?
Just like the gingerbread builds this won't have a lot of progression and I won't be trying to really create anything so much as compile y'all something (hopefully stable) to use if you so choose.
Assuming the answer to the first question is yes, do y'all have a preference for the build (cm9, aokp, etc)?
A release candidate of CM9 would be nice or if there's an ICS rom of ParanoidAndroid, then that would be great as well, I like having proper tablet UI for apps.
Has hash already updated his CM9 kernel?
ice cold sandwich by Lord Clocken From the HTC dhd trend is an aokp ice cold sandwich ,it has great features like kill all back button.
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Every enhancement
the sg7 enhancement, linaro, supercharge, oc'ed kernal
and nothing else.
Base it on the least flashy ROM. I want to change, and add in things as I see fit, and I want the most basic version of android to do it from. I want it the fastest it can go, so all the enhancements and nothing else added in.
You can port sense rom to our Kindle???
All of the roms I have tried have these really annoying bugs. In the ROM I have now, the WIFI keeps dropping, even when i'm in the middle of a download.
If you guys can make a simple, stable ROM without all the bells and whistles (swipe left, themes, etc), that would make me (and a lot of other people) very happy.
Trafford Devil said:
Has hash already updated his CM9 kernel?
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With a little bit of tweaks I'm pretty sure we can use the newer JB kernel (they're both 3.y based but the newer one has the working charge indicator and screen driver.
P8ntBal1551 said:
Every enhancement
the sg7 enhancement, linaro, supercharge, oc'ed kernal
and nothing else.
Base it on the least flashy ROM. I want to change, and add in things as I see fit, and I want the most basic version of android to do it from. I want it the fastest it can go, so all the enhancements and nothing else added in.
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This is sort of where I was already leaning; was considering basing something off of the loosethiskin builds that TWA was providing before cm10 but I wanted some opinions first as just like my cm7 rom I won't be the one running it (I'm using cm10 and it's going to remain that way)
ifyouwant said:
You can port sense rom to our Kindle???
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No; others may be capable and or willing to do this. I personally don't touch binary ports; partly cause I don't want to and partly cause I don't know how to do binary ports (I haven't researched it do to the fact that I just didn't want to do it; source code for me)
Techngro said:
All of the roms I have tried have these really annoying bugs. In the ROM I have now, the WIFI keeps dropping, even when i'm in the middle of a download.
If you guys can make a simple, stable ROM without all the bells and whistles (swipe left, themes, etc), that would make me (and a lot of other people) very happy.
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I haven't experienced any of those issues but one thing I can point out is wifi issues are most likely kernel related; I'm most definitely not a kernel dev so anything I do will have something close to hashcodes current kernel (assuming it won't work as is)
Hi Sblood,
Funny, I was just thinking about this today, wondering if anybody that's capable is willing to take the time to do this. While I'm pretty much satisified with my JB rom, I really like ICS and I was very happy with twa_priv's CM9 builds.
I watch a lot of video from CNN and that's flash, the JB roms are finally giving me pretty good performance with this but I also like to watch video from ESPN and I haven't figured out a way to get that to work. With ICS, it prompts you to choose a player to watch the videos, like MX Player or Dice Player, with JB, it just tells me that the content is unavailable. That's probably the biggest thing I miss from ICS. I still keep a nandroid of twa's last CM9 release under a different gmail address and update any apps from Play Store every couple of weeks and then I OD on ESPN vids & Flash stuff, tonight I had 17 apps to update. LOL
For me, it's a tradeoff of JB Google Now for ICS ESPN vids and I'd rather have ESPN videos. So, if you could use twa's CM9 build as a base and hook in Hashcode's newer kernels, say on a monthly basis, that would be awesome & most appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike T
So no new ICS ROM?
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Joey11746 said:
So no new ICS ROM?
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Sorry I've been busy and interest actually seemed much lower than I would have expected so it's been a somewhat lower priority.
I would still love to get it done (if for no other reason than we don't really have a stable/buildable version of ICS) but as it stands I've been having a few issues getting the ICS device repo updated to use the current kernel but I have been trying at least some.
I have to remind you it's the holiday season as well.
A good, stable, release candidate ICS ROM? I can see the appeal. I'd definitely give it a whirl. I'm starting to get tired of instability on a lot of ROMs.
jji7skyline said:
I'm starting to get tired of instability on a lot of ROMs.
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Well I suggest you put in the work to correct them
guitarman2010 said:
Well I suggest you put in the work to correct them
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You mean report bugs and stuff? Well, they wouldn't exactly be called bugs, more instability. For example, the android browser self closing itself every now and then.
Sblood86 said:
Sorry I've been busy and interest actually seemed much lower than I would have expected so it's been a somewhat lower priority.
I would still love to get it done (if for no other reason than we don't really have a stable/buildable version of ICS) but as it stands I've been having a few issues getting the ICS device repo updated to use the current kernel but I have been trying at least some.
I have to remind you it's the holiday season as well.
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True, still try
Any luck blood?
Joey11746 said:
Any luck blood?
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That's a joke right; it's been 5 days since you asked this previously, it's still the holiday season and I haven't said anything in regards to something working so it must be I'm just not sure I get the humor in it...
Admittedly I probably shouldn't have created this thread til I had made some more progress but the goal was to find out if people were even interested in ICS in the first place. As I have stated this is still on my project list but let's be serious for a moment; how high of a priority do you really think back tracking to a previous version is? (I'll give you a clue: it's not).
I can tell you this; syncing cm9 and the old Kfire-Android local manifest for it doesn't build (and that's with the old kernel branch), it's not as simple as sync a bunch of folders and compile; I have to actually dig into the code of several repos to sort this out.
Lastly consider that my primary role is as a recovery dev; you know the term 'the plate is full', well I have a platter over here...
Not directly related but on the subject of recovery development; this is where most of my time has gone as of late.
I'd like to see an updated ICS but if it doesn't happen......oh well......I'll wait
.....when you hit the walls of sanity, you have no-where to go.....
Yea I'll wait too. And it was a joke. :c
How about a ROM with similar battery life as the stock Amazon one? Every custom ICS or JB ROM I have tried has not been awesome for battery life. Especially in sleep mode.
I'd like to see a honeycomb ROM that wold be pretty neat

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