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Android 2.1 In June?!

Just found this online:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...confirms-another-delay-to-hero-upgrade-684928
Looks like we won't be getting Eclair until June now. So damn annoying. Ah well, let's just hope it's worth the wait. For now I'm just happy I'm using custom ROMs.

SHIZZLE!!!!!!!!

what a bad joke. well, as we expected a LONG time ago: HTC just wants to see some more HTC Desire/ HTC Legend sales. And judging by the topics in this board, they succeed.
The Update is done, they can't tell me that they have the Legend Rom up and running, but don't have the Hero Update yet. But they won't release it until they are satisfied with the new devices initial sales.
This is really a bad practice, and another reason why getting an Nexus One makes more sense...

Yeah, that's pretty much gonna do it for me. If the Desire is fully rooted by the time I can afford one/it's available in Canada, Imma get one of those. If not, an N1.

Okay.. is this one of those speculations/rumors..?

More delays... just great!
I was holding out for the official update but after reading this I reckon I might as well just test some custom 2.1 ROMs out.
SenseHero 2.1 here I come

I'm really tired of those delays.
And in June they will say that they won't release 2.1 because Froyo is almost finished

Sod it! Bored of waiting so flashed Villain 5.2. So far so good. Seems like the best 2.1 I've tried yet. Having said that I was quite happy with MCR 3.2, but new Google Maps with nav tempted me.

N1 for me baby! well when I get a free upgrade in a few months!

How can you use your free upgrade to upgrade to a phone only available through google?
Unless you plan on selling your update and buying an N1?

Lennyuk said:
How can you use your free upgrade to upgrade to a phone only available through google?
Unless you plan on selling your update and buying an N1?
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nailed it on the head sir, shall get a desire and sell it to fund a N1 !

Honestly, FU HTC - it is sureley the last device I buy from you!
Even Nokia phones do get updates more regulary than this buggy piece. I paid 500€ for this device and have to stick with a one year old SW? WTF?
I'll go for a custom ROM. Seems that some homebrew part time hackers are able to build better and newer ROMs over the weekend, than the whole HTC R&D departement. That's how you show skills! Well, better luck next time (Motorola or Apple will do it for me).
And yes, I'm pissed!

I'm fed up with this... everytime they 'say' they'll release the update, they always delay it. TBH, we'll be lucky if we get it by the end of the year. Damn it, I'll just root my phone

I wont be purchasing another HTC phone again. Nexus two please Google!

You guys seem to be forgetting who makes the N1. Granted it's only the hardware but still...

Haha HTC makes the Nexus too! So buying that wont hurt HTC that much

axellink said:
I wont be purchasing another HTC phone again. Nexus two please Google!
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And don't you dare to choose HTC as the manufacturer for your next Superphone...

It is frustrating, and with the rate that they churn out new 'phones it's hardly surprising that we've been left out in the cold.
For me, the new iPhone is certainly tempting. They're reportedly only now about to drop software updates for the original iPhone, and that's a few years old now. With multi-tasking it finally becomes a smart phone rather than a toy so I may well be heading in that direction.

twonk said:
It is frustrating, and with the rate that they churn out new 'phones it's hardly surprising that we've been left out in the cold.
For me, the new iPhone is certainly tempting. They're reportedly only now about to drop software updates for the original iPhone, and that's a few years old now. With multi-tasking it finally becomes a smart phone rather than a toy so I may well be heading in that direction.
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only the newest of the iphones can multi-task though.
It took them a long time to even get copy and paste features.
HTC has given us more updates than apple has, they just have not jumped up to the next version yet.
Htc did the worlds first 3g phone? worlds first 4g phone? they are always at the forefront of what's going on. Just because there is a slight delay in releasing 2.1 for Hero (because they quite rightly want money! its a business afteral) people think they are crap.

Lennyuk said:
only the newest of the iphones can multi-task though.
It took them a long time to even get copy and paste features.
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Yes, I'm considering the next iteration of the iPhone, whatever it may be called, not a 3GS. What I'm saying is that iphone OS 4.0 is *finally* looking to be a feature rich smartphone OS and so the iPhone is worth considering.
Anyway, this is heading off topic. Let's get back to complaining how long it's taken HTC to update the Hero.

So Froyo this weekend or the 23rd of June ?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/motorola-verizon-announcing-next-generation-of-droid-on-june/
I guess the Droid X will have Froyo installed at release .....

I'll be a salty dog if that phone gets the "offical" froyo before us N1 users....
I have the leaked 2.2 now and I love it. Half the reason I chose purchasing the N1 is because I love to be on the cutting edge of tech. I was under the assumption nexus one users would be getting those updates before others.
Personally, I am a bit disappointed we don't get periodic updates of early builds or experimental builds. Especially the unsubsidized users such as myself.
Before people bite my head off, telling me I should root my phone. I know, I should. I hacked the crap out of my old G1 and I waved the Cyanogen flag proudly. But, something about voiding the warranty on a $530 phone while currently having a cruddy power button doesn't appeal to me.

It'll be on the device, but when does it actually ship?
Well have it long before then.

dharani1234 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/motorola-verizon-announcing-next-generation-of-droid-on-june/
I guess the Droid X will have Froyo installed at release .....
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Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.

prettyboy85712 said:
Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.
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Why would Adobe be at the presser if it will be running 2.1u1?
Isn't the req. for flash 2.2?

prettyboy85712 said:
Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.
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Yes as of now ... but what after the announcement on June 23rd ... I see Adobe's CEO in the speakers list and that concerns me

prettyboy85712 said:
Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.
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Negative. Look at the home screen....see the little Android with the tips and pointers? That's new to FroYo.

yeah that looks like moto's version of 2.2 and it really pisses me off to see 2.2 on a device other than the Nexus.
I guess now we know what the wait has been for. Google could have had 2.2 out on the Nexus if they had wanted to, but it looks to me like the Nexus has ceased being a priority. We'll get 2.2, but it's obvious to me us Nexus owners are nothing but an afterthought to Google now.

Something tells me they'll debut the new moto phone, 2.2, flash all together. Start pre orders and deliver within a month (just like the past three major android devices).
With a footnote of :OTA being pushed to nexus on the same day, and all other phones depending on carrier.

That is some BS I might say... but I do not think google has overlooked us. We already have beta 2.2 on nexus one's already. I'm waiting for the official release.
They have a reason for the delay. They have to. And we aren't an "after thought", or "no longer a priority". The nexus one is Google's baby, even if they don't show it sometimes.
Wait
Be patient. Seriously guys.

We will still get it before any other released device...hang in there!

MaximReapage said:
Negative. Look at the home screen....see the little Android with the tips and pointers? That's new to FroYo.
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Engadget confirmed it's 2.1 so...?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

mariolopezjr said:
Engadget confirmed it's 2.1 so...?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/
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Where in that article is that confirmed? It's in the tags but android2.1 in the tags and saying "it's on android 2.1" are two different thing. Even if they DID say that, how do you explain the froyo tipdroid? Maybe part of ninjablur but still

MaximReapage said:
Where in that article is that confirmed? It's in the tags but android2.1 in the tags and saying "it's on android 2.1" are two different thing. Even if they DID say that, how do you explain the froyo tipdroid? Maybe part of ninjablur but still
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Engadget said:
Motorola Blur / Android: We confirmed that the Droid X was running Android 2.1 with some new sort of Motoblur (perhaps Ninjablur) skin. We didn't get to configure Blur with our social networks and contacts, but it didn't seem as "in your face" as the original. There's also a new navigation bar along the bottom that lets you easily jump to different Android panes. We can't really make a call on how we feel about this new Moto skin, but it does feel like a major improvement and it absolutely didn't slow down performance. We should also mention that preloaded on the phone was a Blockbuster application and a DLNA type app. Those two pieces combined with the fact that there will be a separate HDMI dock available has us thinking multimedia is the focus here.
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Third bullet point in the article.

All you guys getting pissed at this...did you forget we all saw Froyo running on a N1 during the I/O?

It amazes me how so many people who are waiting for froyo conjure up these conclusion on why froyo hasnt been released yet without any hard facts backing it. It's a given the N1 owners will be the first to receive the official release. That photo with the little robot has nothing to do with the reason Froyo is not officially released yet. Cot dammit, its hasnt been released because its not ready yet lol! Why is it so hard for some people to digest that? froyo is a "Major" update to the OS, not a minor bug fix. Let google fix whats needed to be fixed so that we may have the best experience with Froyo lol.

In all fairness.. a lot of people with the n1 probably paid full price for the device.. 529$..
And I know for me.. part of why I don't mind paying that price is because, I will get the update first..... Its the price of an unlocked unsubsidized phone.. so we do have certain expectations..

Snow_fox said:
And I know for me.. part of why I don't mind paying that price is because, I will get the update first..... Its the price of an unlocked unsubsidized phone.. so we do have certain expectations..
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Why would buying the phone unsubsidized give anyone a priority? It's not like we're paying more money for the things. I bought mine unsubsidized, and when I do the math I end up paying about $100 less then if I bought it on contract.

Snow_fox said:
In all fairness.. a lot of people with the n1 probably paid full price for the device.. 529$..
And I know for me.. part of why I don't mind paying that price is because, I will get the update first..... Its the price of an unlocked unsubsidized phone.. so we do have certain expectations..
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To be exact, I paid $580.00. I didn't pay that price to receive updates first. I paid that price for the features, and for a phone that is at least 95% glitch free! I'm thirsting for the update as well, but i want Google to take their time and make it right, because right now, the phone is not right with all the touchscreen issues going on!

Why would buying the phone unsubsidized give anyone a priority? It's not like we're paying more money for the things. I bought mine unsubsidized, and when I do the math I end up paying about $100 less then if I bought it on contract.
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I would say one good reason unsubsidized buyers should get priority is because, subsidized phones have to have "carrier approval" or some crap like that.
So If I'm paying for an unsubsidized phone.. I am paying so that my carrier does cripple, weaken and more or less castrate my phone..
As horrible as that is.. that is pretty much what it boils down to.. my carrier has a habit of butchering phones.. and well quite frankly..
If we pay money for a phone that is suppose to be "Google's Flagship Phone" especially coming from a carrier that butchers all of its own phone.. Then we expect to get what we paid for.. the updates first..
With that said.. I don't care whether froyo comes out now.. or in two months from now.. If I pay for a nexus one, I want the nexus one to get froyo before other people who happen to pay less for their phone..

July 15th

My friend just got out of a sales meeting where they got to play with it.
it is coming July 15th behind a large marketing campaign. No pre-orders, at least not in store.
They will be offering early upgrades like ATT did for the iPhone to get more people to get it.

They're screwing current Droid owners, though. Check out the live blog from engadget... I can't link it because of some silly restriction so you'll have to google it.
You can only upgrade if your upgrade eligibility is up sometime in 2010, which means anybody that bought a Motorola Droid is screwed. I got mine on launch day and I gotta admit I'm pretty PO'ed I can't upgrade.

it will have 2.2 and cost $199

swaj said:
They're screwing current Droid owners, though. Check out the live blog from engadget... I can't link it because of some silly restriction so you'll have to google it.
You can only upgrade if your upgrade eligibility is up sometime in 2010, which means anybody that bought a Motorola Droid is screwed. I got mine on launch day and I gotta admit I'm pretty PO'ed I can't upgrade.
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Screwed? Of course you got screwed. That's how technology works. It screws you over the month after you buy it. Btw, you screwed yourself over for signing a two year contract. By next year, they will have a Droid 3 and the year after that and etc.

swaj said:
They're screwing current Droid owners, though. Check out the live blog from engadget... I can't link it because of some silly restriction so you'll have to google it.
You can only upgrade if your upgrade eligibility is up sometime in 2010, which means anybody that bought a Motorola Droid is screwed. I got mine on launch day and I gotta admit I'm pretty PO'ed I can't upgrade.
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Really? Did Verizon suddenly change the upgrade language of the contract you signed? If you can't think ahead before you sign a long term contract, you have no one to be upset with except yourself. Verizon didn't screw you, your short term "gotta have the best right now" attitude is what screwed you.
No one cares that you have buyers remorse. You ultimately have two choices - wait until you can upgrade at the reduced prices, or go ahead and buy a new phone at full price. You could always sell your existing phone if you choose option #2 to help take the edge off the full retail price.
You can complain about it all you want, but you won't gain any sympathy, and it won't change the choices available to you.

You can upgrade...ETF + sell phone + buy the new one. Yeah, it costs money...so do phones. In 3 months when new snap dragon processors hit the streets people with a droid-x will be complaining. Buy the phone for what it is, and don't get pissed that there is better things out there. Or, if it is a big deal, pay up. Verizon doesn't get these things for free you know.

Wow, couple of Verizon employees here maybe?....poor guy.

microdot said:
Wow, couple of Verizon employees here maybe?....poor guy.
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Naw, its just a forum.. **** happens. However I will be getting this phone on the 16th It will be a nice upgrade from my Samsung Omnia i910.
I need to learn Android quick tho, I've been cooking WinMo roms for over a year and don't even know a thing about android yet -.-

aah...the omnia...i had the omnia, awesome phone but i couldnt stand the txting on the relatively small screen and upgraded to the touch pro 2. i know i loose the keyboard again by getting the droid x but the screen is so much bigger and andriod has really mastered the speech to txt technology, i figure i might not do that much typing then

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aah...the omnia...i had the omnia, awesome phone but i couldnt stand the txting on the relatively small screen and upgraded to the touch pro 2. i know i loose the keyboard again by getting the droid x but the screen is so much bigger and andriod has really mastered the speech to txt technology, i figure i might not do that much typing then
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Speech to Text??? thats awesome

microdot said:
Wow, couple of Verizon employees here maybe?....poor guy.
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LOL ther must not be any verizon employees here because if you came in crying to me at my store i would just get you to add a line to your account then you get it for 199.99 after rebates plus $240 over the next year isnt it great to buy a phone at full retail and pay installments look at the bright side tho when that snapdragon 3 comes out you will have an upgrade on your other line GO VZW lol

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aah...the omnia...i had the omnia, awesome phone but i couldnt stand the txting on the relatively small screen and upgraded to the touch pro 2. i know i loose the keyboard again by getting the droid x but the screen is so much bigger and andriod has really mastered the speech to txt technology, i figure i might not do that much typing then
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anyone that thinks the omnia was a good phone must wear a helmet. that phone had a sorry excuse for a touch screen and o yeah ITS WINMO AHHHHHHHHHH LAG i dont think you should have to reformat your phone as many times as a windows M.E. machine
ill give you the benifit of the the doubt tho it was either go with winmo rim or tmobile

grndnpnd said:
anyone that thinks the omnia was a good phone must wear a helmet. that phone had a sorry excuse for a touch screen and o yeah ITS WINMO AHHHHHHHHHH LAG i dont think you should have to reformat your phone as many times as a windows M.E. machine
ill give you the benifit of the the doubt tho it was either go with winmo rim or tmobile
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Good phone at the time!!!!! and mostly cause of hardware for example one of the 1st phones to come out with 5 megapixel camera, 8G harddrive and stuff. Of course its sucks compaired to phones now but think of what was out at the time it released. Ooooh the BB storm one. And of course wm sucks...hence i am getting droid x and going to android.

peperonikiller said:
Naw, its just a forum.. **** happens. However I will be getting this phone on the 16th It will be a nice upgrade from my Samsung Omnia i910.
I need to learn Android quick tho, I've been cooking WinMo roms for over a year and don't even know a thing about android yet -.-
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I am upgrading from the omnia too. This will be a much needed upgrade.

I'll be upgrading from the Omnia i910 as well... which ever store is open first on July 15th, either Verizon or cash in my Best Buy Pre-order. I've been cooking on the Omnia for about a year now and can't wait till the 15th. I'm a huge Linux nut and fairly fluent in Java... The future is bright for Android my friends. Let's just keep our figure's crossed that the bootloader isn't locked!

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Let's just keep our figure's crossed that the bootloader isn't locked!
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Uhm....yeah about that. I see a couple of posters here that want to start makin roms once they get this.
Not sure it will be happening soon...
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...x-bootloader-locked-custom-roms-unlikely.html
Another post I found off that forum said something about an efuse chip...and if that chip don't like what it is reading...it goes blewie. Yep...chip will supposedly trip and phone is bricked.
Ah wait...here it is:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html

haha. bump for the omnia i910! i am upgrading from this phone as well.
it served me well for two years though...

Froyo 2.2 By July

I talked today with sprint supervisor and confirm the Froyo 2.2 will be available for July for sure but dont have a specific day. Also they working for a another patch to fix the last update 1.47.651.1
Good News
PS : I wil continue eating donut and coffe for the waiting

Cool!
But doubtful, those Sprint customer service reps really just tell you what you want to hear, it is almost never factual.

I got confirmation from supervisor not from a representative. I think supervisor got more accurate info than representative that just talk rumors

Most of the time most people that work at Sprint (Including supervisors) have no idea what they are talking about. Anyways, its more up to HTC then Sprint as to when it will be available since they are the ones that have to do most of the work.

Man, LBJ / Bosh coming to the Bulls sometime in July ... 2.2 as well?
hah I love speculating.

Yea they really have no idea. Some said August, July, September, October. They just say whatever they feel like. I used to work for Spring and generally we know more then they do.

is it best to actually talk to the HTC representative over Sprint???

I think the concensus is that 2.2 should drop sometime this summer, which offically ends 9/21/2010. However, from a business prospective, I think it would be prudent to release 2.2 to as many handsets as possible as close to the same date as possible. Reason?....sales of any handset running 2.1 for any length of time after the majority get 2.2 will die quickly, resulting in a lot of unsold inventory.

I won't believe it until it is released and running on my phone. Funny thing is, we know as much, if not more then they do

Or we might get Gingerbread on our Evo's come October.
http://gizmodo.com/5576478/rumor-android-30-gingerbread-out-october-for-higher+specced-phones

oh man can we please not play this game? over in the hero forums we played this game with 2.1 and god it doesnt get anywhere and all the waiting is usually for nothing as we end up with a leaked ruu that gets hacked and people are sad that its not everything they want it to be.

Vandam500 said:
Most of the time most people that work at Sprint (Including supervisors) have no idea what they are talking about. Anyways, its more up to HTC then Sprint as to when it will be available since they are the ones that have to do most of the work.
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I agree. The salesman at the Best Buy in New Orleans (metairie if your from here) tried to tell me that wimax was ready here that they just had to flip the switch. Although every ounce of me wants to believe that, I know he's full of **** so I just nodded my head. I'm thinking to myself this idiot doesn't need to lie to me to sell this phone.

An excerpt from http://gizmodo.com/5576478/rumor-and...specced-phones
"Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2"
Gee, does this mean that, if the EVO does not get 3.0, it will be considered a cheap, low-end handset by October? :-(

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An excerpt from http://gizmodo.com/5576478/rumor-and...specced-phones
"Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2"
Gee, does this mean that, if the EVO does not get 3.0, it will be considered a cheap, low-end handset by October? :-(
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The EVO meets the hardware requirements for 3.0. Do not worry, young one.
"Like Windows Phone 7, Murtazin claims that Google will be laying down the law with some hardcore hardware specs to run 3.0, demanding a minimum of a 3.5-inch display, a 1GHz processor, and 512MB of RAM"
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/android-3-0-gingerbread-getting-revamped-ui-froyo-living-on-for/

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I agree. The salesman at the Best Buy in New Orleans (metairie if your from here) tried to tell me that wimax was ready here that they just had to flip the switch. Although every ounce of me wants to believe that, I know he's full of **** so I just nodded my head. I'm thinking to myself this idiot doesn't need to lie to me to sell this phone.
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What is funny is when you talk about a phone or plan to them and they give you the "just poured water on a robot" reaction
While they are still freaking out, throw out the -"Yea...I read that on XDA and/or Hofo. Guess you don't know about the internet forums do you?"

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An excerpt from http://gizmodo.com/5576478/rumor-and...specced-phones
"Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2"
Gee, does this mean that, if the EVO does not get 3.0, it will be considered a cheap, low-end handset by October? :-(
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The requirements say 3.5", 512MB RAM and 1GHZ...The Evo has all of these. There is no reason for it not to get Gingerbread (3.0).

ive got a few facts:
1) there are no dates
2) it is coming "soon" (per sprints press release)
3) it will not be released until everything is worked out. thats what pushed back the 2.1 updates, htc/samsung kept sending buggy builds (some of which leaked) and the general population wont deal with the flaws like we will b/c we want the latest and greatest. therefore, it wont be released until its completely ready

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The requirements say 3.5", 512MB RAM and 1GHZ...The Evo has all of these. There is no reason for it not to get Gingerbread (3.0).
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Yes, there is a reason, and that reason is HTC

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Yes, there is a reason, and that reason is HTC
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We better get Gingerbread!

Does it seem like they might just jump straight to 3.0 for high-end devices, and keep 2.2 for low-end devices as the article mentions?
This would be sweet, as it would save time for them trying to push out 2.2 and then have to wait again for 3.0.

When do you think official Froyo will be released?

As the thread says - when do you think official Froyo will be released?

September 23, 2011

April 1 2012.

I reckon the last week of October, or November if they don't fix everything in time. ;/

Different regions, probably different dates.

A new important research showed that the Maya were not predicting an end of an era, but the official release for Froyo on Galaxy S.

I wont vote coz theres no "NEVER" option..

Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Sticking with HTC from now on

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Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Sticking with HTC from now on
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Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.
With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".

Schmich said:
Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.
With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".
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I have heard the same complaining before htc phones got their updates. Look how long since the first froyo rolled out ( excluding N1) till now and still not all updated. Evo and the Droid Inc. have been out waaaayyy longer than the GS's and the DInc just got hers.
I wouldn't sweat it. If having to wait a few weeks for an update is a deal breaker for you than Android is not for you, unless you you get a Nexus 1.

Seriously.... What is the point of this ?? Can't we just be patient and wait... Anyway, it will release on different dates for different regions....

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A new important research showed that the Maya were not predicting an end of an era, but the official release for Froyo on Galaxy S.
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Prasad007 said:
Seriously.... What is the point of this ?? Can't we just be patient and wait...
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I would wait patiently if my $500 phone was working OK or If they were waiting patiently for me to pay it when it gets fixed. But they got my money and I didn't get a working phone. So I'm not being patient.
Hope this makes sense.
Cheers!

totality said:
Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Cool story bro , use something else then android.
Sticking with HTC from now on
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2.2 cancelled, go straight to Gingerbread.

totality said:
Glad I sold the phone now and won't be buying a Samsung one again. I read before I bought it that Samsung support was shocking for new firmwares, but people said it was their flagship phone so they would sort it out quickly. Alas, no they didn't so their old reputation still rings true!
Sticking with HTC from now on
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hahaha good luck to you then I dont see any difference between htc and samsung.. had few htc phones.. but no thank you im sticking with sammy for now! but hey there is some difference.. more geeks posting on htc threads.. so it might let u feel that htc have bigger support
just my opinion..

Schmich said:
Agreed. I seriously don't understand why Samsung cannot get their act together when it comes to the software on the phone which has sold many millions across the World.
With the lag, the GPS problems and the slow releases on updates there is no way I would recommend or buy another Samsung phone. They had one chance to change their reputation for the better and they blew it...or should I say "didn't care".
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Umm.. Millions of people around the world are using this phone, and are using it without a lag fix (such as myself).
And yes, there are many people happy with this phone too. My only issue with this phone is GPS, and that isn't enough for me to throw out this phone

What is the POINT of those topics???

psp888 said:
2.2 cancelled, go straight to Gingerbread.
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BEST post so far IMO!

They will not release froyo until galaxy tab comes to market, so I think 15th october or later