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Sprint Speaks via Twitter on 2.1 Update

Might be the bearer of unhappy news here, but Sprint sent a couple of tweets out today concerning the update.
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/13553847246
"Android users:Sprint continues to work closely w Samsung/HTC on 2.1, on track to be avail Q2. Sprint had hoped to have this resolved by now."
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/13553862034
"Many thanks to our customers for your continued patience as we work to bring you a positive experience with the 2.1 upgrade."
I guess the fevor pitch got too high and they felt a need to defuse it. Was that a hint of frustration on Sprint's part there as well? ("...had hoped to have this resolved by now.")
Anyway, back to being satisfied with our ROMs for me. Sorry everyone.

least it's still a bit of hope for us not running 2.1 yet. It's a small step in the right direction. Sprint is finally communicating at least something.

How does this pertain to us ? I mean I am not currently waiting on a possible update for my Sprint Samsung Hero.

smstutler said:
How does this pertain to us ? I mean I am not currently waiting on a possible update for my Sprint Samsung Hero.
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It was to all Sprint Android Users. Samsung owners and HTC owners. Apparently they are having as many issues with Samsung as they are HTC. I wonder if there is an commonality between the issues they are having.

Kcarpenter said:
It was to all Sprint Android Users. Samsung owners and HTC owners. Apparently they are having as many issues with Samsung as they are HTC. I wonder if there is an commonality between the issues they are having.
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Of course there is a commonality, one thing both phones have in common is Sprint.

Thank goodness we already have a 100% fucntional 2.1 ROM. HTC just needs to release the kernel source!

TheBiles said:
Thank goodness we already have a 100% fucntional 2.1 ROM. HTC just needs to release the kernel source!
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That pretty much said it perfectly ...

smstutler said:
How does this pertain to us ? I mean I am not currently waiting on a possible update for my Sprint Samsung Hero.
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If you take a closer look at the first tweet, it says "Sprint continues to work closely w Samsung/HTC...", so they are speaking to both parties.

lorsoblu said:
If you take a closer look at the first tweet, it says "Sprint continues to work closely w Samsung/HTC...", so they are speaking to both parties.
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You are correct. I missed that part. But to be blunt if you looked at forums, you would also see that this has been posted quite a few times already. Both screwed up I guess.

smstutler said:
Of course there is a commonality, one thing both phones have in common is Sprint.
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Couldn't agree more.

Things like this really make me wonder why people are so into the Evo. This is like Deja Vu. The hero came out with old software that had been running on the g1 for a year. Then we sit and wait for 7 months for an update that will most likely be old by the time we get it. They are working on 2.2 and that is coming soon. Now people are going to jump on the same bandwagon for the evo which is the exact situation with the hero. They release the phone in june with software that is going to be considered old a few months later. Everyone that gets the evo will then complain that they are not on 2.2 and how sprint and htc dropped the ball again.
Me personally, I don't think I will get the evo just because of this fiasco. I have been using 2.1 for a while and it's great but is it worth all this headache.....NO. If android doesn't fix this fragmentation they will lose lots of customers. This will really be felt when the new iphone comes out. It's easy for them to play back and forth now but when the biggest competitor comes out, these problems will not be overlooked by most consumers.
I personally think that this update is being held back till the evo comes out so they can sway consumers to that product. Business isn't always about pleasing the consumer. Sprint has got your money and htc has got your money. They want you to buy a new phone and that's that. I wouldn't be suprised if the update drops the same exact week as the evo. They will say sorry for the delay and not meeting the Q2 but it's coming out soon. Nothing is etched in stone and we are just hanging on every word hoping something new will be released.
We have been dealing with broken youtube player and nothing has been done or mentioned to fix it. Do you really want to take the risk in doing this again. Everything is going to be put aside till the evo drops. That is the phone that is supposedly going to save sprint it's decline in customers. The eris is going to be discontinued by verizon this month. This should show everyone that htc is not interested in these products anymore. If they were we would have gotten 1.6 when it became available. The hero was made to open the eyes of cdma customers to android. It did just that and now it's time to get you to upgrade so they can continue to make money. Why does sprint care if you get 2.1. There not going to make any money in dropping the update, so why rush.

my point exactly

I am really curious to know what problems with 2.1 are causing the delay?? After all we have a decent working version now. If there really is some big issue wouldn't we have found it by now?

I don't think its "Android," its Sprint w/ HTC and Samsung implementing 2.1 to their devices. But that's just me.

smstutler said:
Of course there is a commonality, one thing both phones have in common is Sprint.
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SMH........

My guess is that the problem lies with one of the POS sprint applications that are stripped out of almost all the custom ROMs since the problem is effecting both the Samsung and HTC updates. They have never worked right and in an application rich environment like Android, I don't think they are necessary. Nav was nice for 1.5, but no longer necessary. NFL is a decent application, but poorly implemented. You can't even let the screen turn off while streaming audio. Sprint TV is a cool idea, but again poorly implemented. It would always start up in the background for no reason. Many people have said it in defense of Sprint, sprint is not a software company... I know they outsource these applications, but it is to a company that has no apparent android experience.

Jjday7 said:
Things like this really make me wonder why people are so into the Evo.
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The draw is that the Evo has sweet hardware, that and we Hero users have had a fully functional 2.1 for quite some time due to devs. What is the problem? Is there some other Android handset which shipped with 1.5 Android that has had break neck updates?

Does it really matter? If someone is THAT hard up for the updated OS, they can get it without waiting for the official release. And if they're not that impatient, they're probably ok on what they're using.
The people that really want to upgrade their phone can and will do it. I see no reason to freak out about if/when Sprint will release their version of the upgrade.
And for what it's worth, Sprint has ALWAYS been behind in releasing OS updates. They were like that with WinMO as well. Hence one of the reasons people started hacking and developing ROMs to begin with.

danknee said:
The draw is that the Evo has sweet hardware, that and we Hero users have had a fully functional 2.1 for quite some time due to devs. What is the problem? Is there some other Android handset which shipped with 1.5 Android that has had break neck updates?
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Isn't Sprint still on track to have the only phones in the US upgraded to 2.1? I mean they are at least going to be the first ones to do it. Not that there aren't companies with a 2.1 phone.
And about fragmentation...it affects EVERY software company, unless the supply exact hardware. FroYo will likely take care of most of it - they approached it with a very modular design. And Rumor has it Gingerbread+ will have more specific hardware requirements, thought still less restrictive than Iphone and WinMo.
We are in an interesting time in the Mobile World. A lot of innovation is happening VERY quickly. It's simply Moore's Law. The next generation of hardware coming down the pipe is just TOO different than what we are running now.

smstutler said:
You are correct. I missed that part. But to be blunt if you looked at forums, you would also see that this has been posted quite a few times already. Both screwed up I guess.
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When I posted this I looked through the first two pages to check if the info was already up, and to the best of my knowledge it wasn't. (After I posted I saw that the SprintGuy thread had just got updated with it as well, but it was practically at the same time)
Doesn't matter though, we will probably still have someone post this tomorrow morning.

Froyo's fast! Will we have it?

So does anyone know if the Evo will ship with Eclair (2.1) or Froyo (2.2)? I ask because I read an article today that said the built in JIT in Froyo is getting 37 MFLOPS on the Nexus One as opposed to the 6 MFLOPS in Eclair. If we are only going to have 2.1 on release I really can't wait until it's rooted so we can get 2.2.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05...n-fire-from-the-friction-because-its-so-fast/

chuckhriczko said:
So does anyone know if the Evo will ship with Eclair (2.1) or Froyo (2.2)? I ask because I read an article today that said the built in JIT in Froyo is getting 37 MFLOPS on the Nexus One as opposed to the 6 MFLOPS in Eclair. If we are only going to have 2.1 on release I really can't wait until it's rooted so we can get 2.2.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05...n-fire-from-the-friction-because-its-so-fast/
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The Evo will ship with 2.1 - mod 1.
However, there are rumors that once the phone is turned on, it will be prompted for an OTA 2.2 update -- The other rumor is that FroYo has already been put on some of the test Evo units, and will be out within six weeks of launch of the phone...
Then there's always the pessimists who say: The Moment and Hero has taken a millennium, so Sprint is gonna screw us over on the Evo too.
Believe what you will.

chuckhriczko said:
So does anyone know if the Evo will ship with Eclair (2.1) or Froyo (2.2)? I ask because I read an article today that said the built in JIT in Froyo is getting 37 MFLOPS on the Nexus One as opposed to the 6 MFLOPS in Eclair. If we are only going to have 2.1 on release I really can't wait until it's rooted so we can get 2.2.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05...n-fire-from-the-friction-because-its-so-fast/
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That gargantuan increase in speed is a bit misleading. The program they're using an application called LINPACK.
LINPACK is a number-crunching application that has performance properties that are almost the opposite of most types of software. Floating point operations are very easy to speed up with a JIT compiler (which is what Froyo is doing).
General purpose code is much harder to speed up. I wouldn't expect more than a factor of 2-2.5x speedup for the first generations of the compiler. But it'll still be a big improvement, I'm sure.

What's the big change with froyo, why is it so much better?

mrono said:
What's the big change with froyo, why is it so much better?
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Think of it like the performance increases with every later release of Windows and Mac OSX. Versions of Android up to this date have been pretty rough around the edges; 2.1 is the only version that manages to show off what the operating system can really do. As time goes on, Google will refine it more and more, to the point where crashes and lag are virtually nonexistent.

keatre said:
The Evo will ship with 2.1 - mod 1.
However, there are rumors that once the phone is turned on, it will be prompted for an OTA 2.2 update -- The other rumor is that FroYo has already been put on some of the test Evo units, and will be out within six weeks of launch of the phone...
Then there's always the pessimists who say: The Moment and Hero has taken a millennium, so Sprint is gonna screw us over on the Evo too.
Believe what you will.
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Where are those rumors from? Got a link?

keatre said:
The Evo will ship with 2.1 - mod 1.
However, there are rumors that once the phone is turned on, it will be prompted for an OTA 2.2 update -- The other rumor is that FroYo has already been put on some of the test Evo units, and will be out within six weeks of launch of the phone...
Then there's always the pessimists who say: The Moment and Hero has taken a millennium, so Sprint is gonna screw us over on the Evo too.
Believe what you will.
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I hope since this will be Sprint's flagship phone, they will actually treat it like it is after it is released.

evo = Froyo?
www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us&client=ms-android-google&source=android-unknown&q=will+evo+get+froyo?

I spoke with a sprint store clerk the other day, he said that the evo will get the FroYo update soon after the nexus one, or so he thought.

I'm sure someone on XDA will have a JIT hack working for the EVO well before an official 2.2 update anyway... there's a JIT patch available for the moment and while it's a bit buggy (I had random reboots for a day before it stabilized) it already works. and the community for the EVO will be much larger than that of the moment

ActionVonAction said:
I spoke with a sprint store clerk the other day, he said that the evo will get the FroYo update soon after the nexus one, or so he thought.
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Sprint reps know LESS than most people in who visit this kind of forum. Sprint wont pass down confidential info to retail/call center reps since theres always someone who will go and spill the beans. You are better off reading engadget.com or some other site that deals with technology.

hankyjackz said:
Sprint reps know LESS than most people in who visit this kind of forum. Sprint wont pass down confidential info to retail/call center reps since theres always someone who will go and spill the beans. You are better off reading engadget.com or some other site that deals with technology.
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I second that. And I'd be that the froyo would be on EVO WITH sprint support since flash would work very well on the 4g network. This could boost Sprint back up from their bad names.
And those sprint reps usually don't know too much... unless they are on these forums and are phone fanatics like the rest of us.

deekoi said:
I second that. And I'd be that the froyo would be on EVO WITH sprint support since flash would work very well on the 4g network. This could boost Sprint back up from their bad names.
And those sprint reps usually don't know too much... unless they are on these forums and are phone fanatics like the rest of us.
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im kinda hurt lol i am a sprint employee but u guys are right they do hold out on us juss not as much as you guys think....

I would almost count on the EVO not getting FroYo for a long time because Android 2.2 comes with built in wi-fi hotspot capability. A feature Sprint will be hoping to sell you at +$30/month. Unless they decide to cripple that aspect of 2.2 so they can continue to charge for their own version of it.

Gambit727 said:
I would almost count on the EVO not getting FroYo for a long time because Android 2.2 comes with built in wi-fi hotspot capability. A feature Sprint will be hoping to sell you at +$30/month. Unless they decide to cripple that aspect of 2.2 so they can continue to charge for their own version of it.
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I bet we get it. Sprint and HTC will want to push a f****on of these things out to customers. The best way to do that is to keep them updated. It'll be Sprint's flagship phone for the next year.
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who knows whether or not Froyo will come to the Evo, but this is one positive sign. where google used to be promoting the nexus one, they still are (on tmobile) but if you click on "Get Your Phone" at google.com/phone you'll see Google mentions the Evo if you have Sprint:
"For Sprint, you can pre-register for the HTC EVO 4G, a powerful Android phone with support for Sprint's 3G & 4G network. Go to sprint.com to pre-register now!"
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
so basically at least google is paying attention to and acknowledging this handset... not a bad sign

Agreed. I'd really doubt that Google would totally neglect a device they themselves are pushing on their own website. Furthermore, Sprint kind of needs this update to make at least some of the features of the Evo work in the first place. If they were to block the update altogether, the phone wouldn't sell nearly as well as they'd like it to.

No one knows for sure. This is because these companies have serious commitment issues and refuse to announce anything until they have to. There is no logical reason to suspect that this phone won't have a FroYo release very soon. I must say I'm rather annoyed that it won't have it at release since I see no reason they couldn't have been working on it this past month or two. Google needs to find some contractual way to light a fire under the handset manufacturers/service providers collective arse to ensure they stop dragging their feet on updates. It only hurts them in the end.

Mecha2142 said:
Agreed. I'd really doubt that Google would totally neglect a device they themselves are pushing on their own website. Furthermore, Sprint kind of needs this update to make at least some of the features of the Evo work in the first place. If they were to block the update altogether, the phone wouldn't sell nearly as well as they'd like it to.
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It won't be Google that neglects the handset, it'll Sprint if it happens. I personally feel that it will ship with 2.1 and won't be immediately updated with Froyo. Most people who will buying the EVO won't know of benefits (if any) of Froyo. Sprint usually likes to sit on updates to make sure all their apps (Nascar - good grief) continue to work as expected.

Confirmed: HTC EVO 4G Will Run Froyo
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...g-will-run-froyo-the-next-version-of-android/
take it with a grain of salt

Speculation on getting 2.2ruu for our Hero

I have just found evidence that the HTC myTouch3g, not just the last revision of the headset but the entire line is getting the 2.2 update (see ref. Android 2.2 coming to the full myTouch 3G range )
Since all of the mytouch line phones are from HTC, and all of them are of lower spec or same spec as the Hero, does this not mean that maybe ours will get it sooner or later down the line?
Now to be honest, yes it almost sounds dumb for the fact that HTC sent out the press release that states only MOST of the HTC handsets that came or is coming out this year will be getting the update, AND the fact that it is HTC, so we could be speculating this till 2022; however I do also realize that though they detailed exactly which headsets coming out this year are getting the update vs. those that will not, the ones that are NOT getting the update are of lower specs all the way around than the Hero making them physically unsuitable for the update.
Debating and speculation is this. Remember not too long ago, if it were not for the few twitches of "please be patient, we are working with HTC to come out with a stable release of 2.1 blahblahblah" from providers (and only providers), we didn't think we would see a 2.1 update for the Hero (and most of us do not have it still..) But the fact remains that no one from HTC has given the Hero the final NO on 2.2, so it's still on the table specifically.
FEI, I don't know anything. Don't go around getting anyone's hopes up without proof.

Probably on December 21, 2012.

So this is what the Mayans were talking about?
Probably on December 21, 2012.
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Sent from my Android phone.

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So this is what the Mayans were talking about?
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hahahahaha dude i laughed so hard! hahahaha

I really doubt that Sprint will ask HTC for a 2.2 update for the Hero because of Sprints new love child (Evo) with HTC. Long story short....Sprint wants us to upgrade to Evo to get that extra 10$ per month per phone. I dont think so Sprint (not me). Sprint will soon start throttling data even though Evo owners are paying 10$ more per month just for the priviledge to use what is turning out to be HTC's ****tiest Android phone to date. New issues are found and develop daily....with software and hardware. Anyway....I digress.....Hero will almost certainly not get an official 2.2 (but i hope I eat my words).

on the bright side, if it does come to mytouch3g (non-slide, with headphone jack), we could really easily make a working rom for our phones. Would have the drivers we need to make everything work that doesn't in the current 2.2 from zen

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on the bright side, if it does come to mytouch3g (non-slide, with headphone jack), we could really easily make a working rom for our phones. Would have the drivers we need to make everything work that doesn't in the current 2.2 from zen
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This is what i was going to say. If we can get a phone with the same hardware as our phone to get 2.2 then we are set on having a 2.2 for cdma hero. Its easy to port over. Darchstar would be all over it.

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I really doubt that Sprint will ask HTC for a 2.2 update for the Hero because of Sprints new love child (Evo) with HTC. Long story short....Sprint wants us to upgrade to Evo to get that extra 10$ per month per phone. I dont think so Sprint (not me). Sprint will soon start throttling data even though Evo owners are paying 10$ more per month just for the priviledge to use what is turning out to be HTC's ****tiest Android phone to date. New issues are found and develop daily....with software and hardware. Anyway....I digress.....Hero will almost certainly not get an official 2.2 (but i hope I eat my words).
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Sprint isn't going to start throttling data, that rumor's been debunked on Engadget.

troyboytn said:
I really doubt that Sprint will ask HTC for a 2.2 update for the Hero because of Sprints new love child (Evo) with HTC. Long story short....Sprint wants us to upgrade to Evo to get that extra 10$ per month per phone. I dont think so Sprint (not me). Sprint will soon start throttling data even though Evo owners are paying 10$ more per month just for the priviledge to use what is turning out to be HTC's ****tiest Android phone to date. New issues are found and develop daily....with software and hardware. Anyway....I digress.....Hero will almost certainly not get an official 2.2 (but i hope I eat my words).
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Also have you actually read the forums? Yes i agree some things that are discovered are just bad. But most of the things are just simply people *****ing. Its just sick reading what people are complaining about. And even for things that have simple solutions to them, people ***** because they have to spend a minute of there day fixing it and expect htc to have already done it. But what phone doesnt have a few problems when first released? They didnt have millions of people testing the device and now that they do, they discover things. Its apart of electronic device history and always will be.
Ok that had nothing to do with htc hero, but he brought up the Evo.

December 21, 2012....
HTC will release Android 3.0 for all of its phones which will then start a countdown everyone of our phones will explode..
I think if they get 2.2 it can easily be ported over to our phones. I don't think we will get it for ours as they just spent the last 6 months working on 2.1

Yes, I have read the forums and you are correct that most complaints are silly but there are more "real " issues than the Hero has had in 10 months time. I have also checked out a working demo and my Hero was much faster and smoother on stock 1.5 and now 2.1 than the Evo Demo. Just my 2 cents worth.

So Froyo this weekend or the 23rd of June ?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/motorola-verizon-announcing-next-generation-of-droid-on-june/
I guess the Droid X will have Froyo installed at release .....

I'll be a salty dog if that phone gets the "offical" froyo before us N1 users....
I have the leaked 2.2 now and I love it. Half the reason I chose purchasing the N1 is because I love to be on the cutting edge of tech. I was under the assumption nexus one users would be getting those updates before others.
Personally, I am a bit disappointed we don't get periodic updates of early builds or experimental builds. Especially the unsubsidized users such as myself.
Before people bite my head off, telling me I should root my phone. I know, I should. I hacked the crap out of my old G1 and I waved the Cyanogen flag proudly. But, something about voiding the warranty on a $530 phone while currently having a cruddy power button doesn't appeal to me.

It'll be on the device, but when does it actually ship?
Well have it long before then.

dharani1234 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/motorola-verizon-announcing-next-generation-of-droid-on-june/
I guess the Droid X will have Froyo installed at release .....
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Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.

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Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.
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Why would Adobe be at the presser if it will be running 2.1u1?
Isn't the req. for flash 2.2?

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Yes as of now ... but what after the announcement on June 23rd ... I see Adobe's CEO in the speakers list and that concerns me

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Nope. It's running 2.1 with a customer version of MotoBlur.
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Negative. Look at the home screen....see the little Android with the tips and pointers? That's new to FroYo.

yeah that looks like moto's version of 2.2 and it really pisses me off to see 2.2 on a device other than the Nexus.
I guess now we know what the wait has been for. Google could have had 2.2 out on the Nexus if they had wanted to, but it looks to me like the Nexus has ceased being a priority. We'll get 2.2, but it's obvious to me us Nexus owners are nothing but an afterthought to Google now.

Something tells me they'll debut the new moto phone, 2.2, flash all together. Start pre orders and deliver within a month (just like the past three major android devices).
With a footnote of :OTA being pushed to nexus on the same day, and all other phones depending on carrier.

That is some BS I might say... but I do not think google has overlooked us. We already have beta 2.2 on nexus one's already. I'm waiting for the official release.
They have a reason for the delay. They have to. And we aren't an "after thought", or "no longer a priority". The nexus one is Google's baby, even if they don't show it sometimes.
Wait
Be patient. Seriously guys.

We will still get it before any other released device...hang in there!

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Negative. Look at the home screen....see the little Android with the tips and pointers? That's new to FroYo.
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Engadget confirmed it's 2.1 so...?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

mariolopezjr said:
Engadget confirmed it's 2.1 so...?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/
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Where in that article is that confirmed? It's in the tags but android2.1 in the tags and saying "it's on android 2.1" are two different thing. Even if they DID say that, how do you explain the froyo tipdroid? Maybe part of ninjablur but still

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Where in that article is that confirmed? It's in the tags but android2.1 in the tags and saying "it's on android 2.1" are two different thing. Even if they DID say that, how do you explain the froyo tipdroid? Maybe part of ninjablur but still
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Engadget said:
Motorola Blur / Android: We confirmed that the Droid X was running Android 2.1 with some new sort of Motoblur (perhaps Ninjablur) skin. We didn't get to configure Blur with our social networks and contacts, but it didn't seem as "in your face" as the original. There's also a new navigation bar along the bottom that lets you easily jump to different Android panes. We can't really make a call on how we feel about this new Moto skin, but it does feel like a major improvement and it absolutely didn't slow down performance. We should also mention that preloaded on the phone was a Blockbuster application and a DLNA type app. Those two pieces combined with the fact that there will be a separate HDMI dock available has us thinking multimedia is the focus here.
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Third bullet point in the article.

All you guys getting pissed at this...did you forget we all saw Froyo running on a N1 during the I/O?

It amazes me how so many people who are waiting for froyo conjure up these conclusion on why froyo hasnt been released yet without any hard facts backing it. It's a given the N1 owners will be the first to receive the official release. That photo with the little robot has nothing to do with the reason Froyo is not officially released yet. Cot dammit, its hasnt been released because its not ready yet lol! Why is it so hard for some people to digest that? froyo is a "Major" update to the OS, not a minor bug fix. Let google fix whats needed to be fixed so that we may have the best experience with Froyo lol.

In all fairness.. a lot of people with the n1 probably paid full price for the device.. 529$..
And I know for me.. part of why I don't mind paying that price is because, I will get the update first..... Its the price of an unlocked unsubsidized phone.. so we do have certain expectations..

Snow_fox said:
And I know for me.. part of why I don't mind paying that price is because, I will get the update first..... Its the price of an unlocked unsubsidized phone.. so we do have certain expectations..
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Why would buying the phone unsubsidized give anyone a priority? It's not like we're paying more money for the things. I bought mine unsubsidized, and when I do the math I end up paying about $100 less then if I bought it on contract.

Snow_fox said:
In all fairness.. a lot of people with the n1 probably paid full price for the device.. 529$..
And I know for me.. part of why I don't mind paying that price is because, I will get the update first..... Its the price of an unlocked unsubsidized phone.. so we do have certain expectations..
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To be exact, I paid $580.00. I didn't pay that price to receive updates first. I paid that price for the features, and for a phone that is at least 95% glitch free! I'm thirsting for the update as well, but i want Google to take their time and make it right, because right now, the phone is not right with all the touchscreen issues going on!

Why would buying the phone unsubsidized give anyone a priority? It's not like we're paying more money for the things. I bought mine unsubsidized, and when I do the math I end up paying about $100 less then if I bought it on contract.
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I would say one good reason unsubsidized buyers should get priority is because, subsidized phones have to have "carrier approval" or some crap like that.
So If I'm paying for an unsubsidized phone.. I am paying so that my carrier does cripple, weaken and more or less castrate my phone..
As horrible as that is.. that is pretty much what it boils down to.. my carrier has a habit of butchering phones.. and well quite frankly..
If we pay money for a phone that is suppose to be "Google's Flagship Phone" especially coming from a carrier that butchers all of its own phone.. Then we expect to get what we paid for.. the updates first..
With that said.. I don't care whether froyo comes out now.. or in two months from now.. If I pay for a nexus one, I want the nexus one to get froyo before other people who happen to pay less for their phone..

RE:2.2/Froyo pulled?

RE:2.2/Froyo pulled?
Hello,
All the speculations and rumors about the Verizon 2.2/Froyo update being pulled are false, I assure the update is still coming. We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all Verizon users as soon as possible.
Thanks,
TwitterSamsungJohn
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In the words of Peter Griffin:
"Bull (pause) Crap."
That is all.
IMO

i just don't understand why that thread had the be locked.. (and stickied!)
there is no new info in that, and it just says the same exact thing that samsung has been telling us since october: froyo will be here "soon"
is samsungjohn really that scared of our responses?

phooky said:
i just don't understand why that thread had the be locked.. (and stickied!)
there is no new info in that, and it just says the same exact thing that samsung has been telling us since october: froyo will be here "soon"
is samsungjohn really that scared of our responses?
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That is why I opened this one. I'm in a ranting mood today so feel free to add your frustrated comments.

We have froyo & don't want their bloated version. They need to work on & bring us the latest OS

vudiff said:
We have froyo & don't want their bloated version. They need to work on & bring us the latest OS
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i for one would love for them to release their bloated version (even though i wont use it!), because that means we get KERNEL SOURCE!
how i miss my BLN, voodoo sound/colors, undervolted/overclocked kernels!

Well.... I had high hopes when he came a long. But, It has been too long, I will NEVER buy samsung again. It has been confirmed that I will buy HTC from now on. They are fast with updates, and well over all a better company. Buy Sammy, I am going to get rid of this POS phone ASAP.

wideopn11 said:
In the words of Peter Griffin:
"Bull (pause) Crap."
That is all.
IMO
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Yes, Samsung is creating Froyo builds for our phone and sending them to Verizon just for fun, and neither have any intention of ever releasing it. Get real, they may be stupid, but they would never put resources into something that's never getting released.

micdawg12 said:
Well.... I had high hopes when he came a long. But, It has been too long, I will NEVER buy samsung again. It has been confirmed that I will buy HTC from now on. They are fast with updates, and well over all a better company. Buy Sammy, I am going to get rid of this POS phone ASAP.
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Wonderful phone but no more Samsung for me, too... I had the i920 and was always waiting for new releases. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me....
jv HTC here i come!

micdawg12 said:
I will NEVER buy samsung again.
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I won't say never, but.......
I bought my device with the OS it had, I don't really feel that I am owed anything else. BUT, The GPS was a fail on mine until I loaded the leaked 2.2 roms. It would take many minutes to lock, if it ever did lock.
This phone charges at about a 300ma rate on USB, and at about a 600ma rate on a high rate charger. Using it in a car as a GPS (bright screen, constant processing) consumes closer to 1000ma. So, while on charge in the car as a GPS, your battery is going dead. That is a failed hardware design.
After using the phone for a time again as a GPS in the car, the buttons (back, home etc.) start blinking and any apps close down. The phone becomes worthless. I need to unplug it, pull the battery and let it cool off for 10 minutes or so before it is useable. VZW and Samsung say 'don't use it like that!'. What? My previous HTC phone would do this for days on end. More hardware fail.
Needless to say, I am not overly impressed with the Samsung hardware or the software. Like I said, I'm not going to say 'never', but this is wearing thin...........

I'm a little pissed because when I bought the phone from verizon I asked the rep if if had 2.2. She said, "no all our phones ship with 2.1 but are all have froyo updates that you can do from home." We should all get free thunderbolts for our troubles.

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I'm a little pissed because when I bought the phone from verizon I asked the rep if if had 2.2. She said, "no all our phones ship with 2.1 but are all have froyo updates that you can do from home." We should all get free thunderbolts for our troubles.
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She didn't lie to you. You can get 2.2, from home, when they release it.

I love how my desktop doc user manual says "The audio line out jack will be fully functional upon the release of android 2.2 for samsung galaxy s phones. To update your phone to android 2.2, visit samsung electronics web site at www.samsungmobileusa.com."

theGross1 said:
I'm a little pissed because when I bought the phone from verizon I asked the rep if if had 2.2. She said, "no all our phones ship with 2.1 but are all have froyo updates that you can do from home." We should all get free thunderbolts for our troubles.
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+1 for free Thunderbolts, although I have my eye on that new LG Optimus duel core.

It's telling that even the rumors have died down. A couple months ago searching for "fascinate froyo" would pull up speculation and rumors galore. Now, nothing pertinent. This is long past a fail.
I'll decide what phone to get next based on what there is at the time. But both Samsung and Verizon will be at substantial disadvantages in the comparison.

OK now that sammy said so here it has to be soon NOTthey have said that it would be coming for seven months. We already have froyo, and ton of roms

I know we have Froyo already, but how about a version that doesn't have battery destroying wakelocks? I am still looking forward to an official release that will hopefully be less buggy than the Froyo we have now.
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At this point Froyo is meaningless, as it's been seven months since it was promised to be out "very soon." Having source would be great, but it's too late for Samsung; epic fail. They had better redeem themselves with a surprise (and quick...as in ACTUALLY QUICK) Gingerbread release instead of Froyo, otherwise they will lose a ton of customers, including me.

With Samsung, it appears to be one jerk job after another. By the time they roll out 2.2, a lot of us will be ready for another upgrade, and guess what, we're going to think long and hard about buying another Samsung product. I like my Fascinate, but only because we have the leaked 2.2. If I was still on 2.1, I'd most likely be using a different phone by now.

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With Samsung, it appears to be one jerk job after another. By the time they roll out 2.2, a lot of us will be ready for another upgrade, and guess what, we're going to think long and hard about buying another Samsung product. I like my Fascinate, but only because we have the leaked 2.2. If I was still on 2.1, I'd most likely be using a different phone by now.
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You said it! Heck, we'll all probably be on different phones by the time Samsung releases Froyo, because our TWO YEAR contracts will be up by then.

We want a bloated Froyo so that we can get source code! That's what has been holding us back with development! I'm so sick of all these empty promises. "You'll get Froyo in September. No wait, November." "Er, we meant, before the end of 2010!" And as 2011 began, "it's coming soon!" 3 months later, it's the same empty promise of soon, so they send John to post here and attempt to keep us at bay. Samsung can shove it. It's completely unacceptable, and I am so tempted to submit this to the Better Business Bureau. We can't even use accessories that we purchased a long time ago, because we still don't have 2.2. This phone should go EOL and we should get free Tbolts, as someone said earlier. These are unacceptable practices, and I'm pissed about it. I don't know how Samsung is getting away with it.